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Andre_Johnson80

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This team has some talent at RB with DD and JW but neither one of them is a gamebreaking running back. DD did well in his first year as a rookie but this year he hasn't done much to impress me or probably anyone else. He is still owed either 2-3 years on his contract. If any of you watch college football than you would know that there are a couple of big named backs coming up this year and next year. Cedric Benson of Texas is entering the Draft this year and he will be a good one but more important in 2 years Adrian Peterson of OU will be entering and if he gets any better than he is know he will be The Running back in the Draft in 2 years. The teams best bet is to just draft another back within the next two years if DD can't get the job done. Let me know your thoughts... :popcorn:
 
One name - Maurice Clarett j/k
He is going to Dallas anyway.

We need to park the Caddy at Reliant Stadium. :twocents:
 
V Man said:
One name - Maurice Clarett j/k
He is going to Dallas anyway.

We need to park the Caddy at Reliant Stadium. :twocents:
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Thank God your kidding I was like WHAT!!! idonno: Benson might go late in the draft this year like all the back did last draft if so we might be able to pick a good one up.
 
A RB in the draft would be an option, but I would prefer depth on our defense or even a solid O-lineman. DD, Wells, and Hollings can get the job done IMO.
 
i'd prefer we draft mainly defense again next year too, but if Ronnie Brown is available in the 2nd round, we would be foolish to pass on him. either that or draft Kay Jay Harris somewhere in the mid-rounds. JMO though.
 
I think that by the end of the season the running game will come into it's own here and the desire for a big name franchise back will be pretty low on the list unless one falls to us.

Davis is going to get it going over the second half of the season once the line settles into it's run blocking scheme. Then he'll look like Davis of last season on a more regular basis and people will again be talking "Triplets" (whether it's really merited or not).

This is just a hiccup on the offensive side guys. The run blocking scheme and offensive line was really the only major thing we tinkered with this year on offense. We should be happy that they've gelled enough to pass protect well (mostly) at this point.
 
I hate Oklahoma, but every week I wish the kid from Palestine winds up in Houston. If you don't watch OU, you owe it to youself to check Peterson out
 
When i played football in huntsville we had to play agianst him in palestine and the guy is AWESOME i can brag and say i was run over by him once ,,,,i mean totally flatened out "it hurt".
 
Adrian Peterson is the man, He is going to be a game break once hes in the big time. I Wouldn't mind drafting Defense again this year but if the running attack doesn't become stronger we need a better back. DD is good at times but he needs to be more consitant. If we had a running attack everyone feared than AJ would have 10 receps a game and DC would have 3Tds a game. We have a good passing attack we just need a more punishing run game.
 
eh.. I dont see us drafting RB.. not in the first 3 rounds anyway.

Fact of the matter is that RB is one of the most risky positions to draft. a 1st round RB has as much chance of being a star as a 4th or 5th round RB.. for proof of that, look at D. Davis, Mewelde Moore, Rubin Droughns, Clinton Portis

Cedric Benson seems great.. but honestly if we are going to draft a back.. id like to see us pick up a Jerome Bettis type of back. Someone huge, who can take a beating and make good yardage every time. With the way we like to run the ball.. someone who can take a beating.. and who can power forward for 4 yards consistently would be just fine.. especially when we have such a great WR corp and QB. We dont need a star, we need a work horse.
 
Grid said:
Fact of the matter is that RB is one of the most risky positions to draft. a 1st round RB has as much chance of being a star as a 4th or 5th round RB.. for proof of that, look at D. Davis, Mewelde Moore, Rubin Droughns, Clinton Portis
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You left out Terrell Davis(6th) and Priest Holmes (undrafted). Since we have two third round picks, I could see us using a second or third on a RB.
 
They need lineman, say what they want about a new blocking scheme, but every year something is bad, whether its carr getting sacked a hundred times one year, or bad run blocking the next. I go with a big name lineman at least in second round. 1st round i say either go with someone at DT if there are any that are that good, otherwise i go with another DB, get another shut down corner or even a killer safety thats gonna lay some heavy wood on anyone crossing the middle or going deep. A player like john lynch would be nice, scare the receivers and gives another run stopper to go with THE MAN SHARPER.
 
peterson can not enter the draft this year, or next year for that matter

you have to be 3 years removed from high school to be eligible for the draft
 
The Texans have few needs outside D-line depth and a Starting Quality back . Getting D-lineman is a little easier than finding a "Franchise"type back . If I were GM I'd take a back Early in the draft and possibly pick up a d-lineman in the mid rounds or via free-agency .
Teams just dont let those type of backs get away due to free agency and to trade for that same kind of player would have a substantial cost either in draft picks or players at other positions .The fact linemen demand so much cash in free agency forces teams hands at those positions (just look at the Titanics in this years free agent perion , they lost Kearse and Smith because they couldnt afford them) .
Running backs also tend to have shorter carreer's overall , there are exceptions to this rule but in general they may have 3-5 years at the top of their games.
The starters on the D and O lines are pretty solid players , the glaring weakness of the Texans is production in the running game . they have 174 carries and 541 yards from their three backs . Thats an avg of 3.1 yards and just good enough to keep the opposing defenses honest . Overall they are 25th in rushing offense with an avg of 99.9 yards per game (counting QB scrambles and other non RB plays) .
Im not sure if the problems in the running game stem from the new zone blocking scheme , injury or just simply personel related . One way or another this is the one facet of the Texans game that must improve dramaticly for them to take the next step .

I do believe the Texans are in a position to take BPA where ever they are in the draft and dont have to draft out of pure need . This years draft for the Texans will be interesting to say the least.


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James is not going to be a Texan. Besides we dont need to pay that much for a back with Carr and the Receivers we have. All they need is a consistent running game to keep people honest for the receivers. No need to spend 10 million a year on someone
 
The Edge wont be leaving Indy , you can forget it
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How do you figure? He already said he wants to play in Miami and there is no way Indy can afford to keep Peyton, James, and Harrison who will also be a free agent next year.
 
Andre_Johnson80 said:
This team has some talent at RB with DD and JW but neither one of them is a gamebreaking running back. DD did well in his first year as a rookie but this year he hasn't done much to impress me or probably anyone else. He is still owed either 2-3 years on his contract. If any of you watch college football than you would know that there are a couple of big named backs coming up this year and next year. Cedric Benson of Texas is entering the Draft this year and he will be a good one but more important in 2 years Adrian Peterson of OU will be entering and if he gets any better than he is know he will be The Running back in the Draft in 2 years. The teams best bet is to just draft another back within the next two years if DD can't get the job done. Let me know your thoughts... :popcorn:
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Just keep in mind that in the 2002 draft Clinton Portis was sitting there for us with that 33 selection! Not selecting him bothered me then and it bothers me now! :mad:
 
You guy's may be right about Edgerrin goin to Miami but the Dolts could still slap the franchise tag on him meaning he would stay at least one more year at an avg of the top five paid players at his positions salaries ( that would probably be less than his asking price).
I think he's on the downside of his carreer . He may have a couple productive years left but is most likely gonna ask for a 6+ year deal , then end up like Eddie George was at the begining of this season , over paid and over the hill (a couple seasons from now) .
The Dolts are gonne have cap problems for as far as the eye can see with Peytons big contract ..... they did it to themselves . Those type of contracts in a league with a cap are like wearing lead boots .
As far as playing in Miami , the dolphins are in sad shape , not so sure I'd leave a team with a chance (although the window of opportinity may be closing FAST) to win it all for a cellar dwellar (Miami will be bad for a couple seasons , they have more problems than one player can fix)
 
Bill's/TexanFan said:
Just keep in mind that in the 2002 draft Clinton Portis was sitting there for us with that 33 selection! Not selecting him bothered me then and it bothers me now! :mad:
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31 other teams passed him too. Most of them are over it by now. You really ought to let go one of these years. You post this comment about every 10 posts it seems.
 
I don't see it happening, but Shaun Alexander is a free agent after this season, and it would be nice to have a back with that body type, not to mention skill set.
 
Andre_Johnson80 said:
If any of you watch college football than you would know that there are a couple of big named backs coming up this year and next year. Cedric Benson of Texas is entering the Draft this year and he will be a good one but more important in 2 years Adrian Peterson of OU will be entering and if he gets any better than he is know he will be The Running back in the Draft in 2 years. The teams best bet is to just draft another back within the next two years if DD can't get the job done. Let me know your thoughts... :popcorn:
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Well. with Peterson, you'd have to have the TOP pick in the draft. With Benson, he'd probably be one of the top 10 picks in the draft.

Do you plan on the Texans being that bad of a football team to have that high of a pick? FORGET IT! The Texans will probably in the 20th pick or higher range this season, and even higher next season, and those players you mentioned will be long gone.
 
well here's a thought what about travis henry...with mcgahee taking control of that team you know henry will be trade bait if the upcoming draft...but i don't know if i take a chance on a guy who has yet to stay healthy through a whole season...so maybe a 3rd round pick for him...but as for the draft i do see us drafting a back on the first day...the running game is so cretical for capers offense...i've yet to hear anyone mention cadillac williams...he's a sure first rounder if you ask me...way better than benson...but 3rd round material would be in jj arrington of cal and vernon morency(not sure on the spelling) from osu...both very capiable backs both excellent speed and size
 
Vinny said:
31 other teams passed him too. Most of them are over it by now. You really ought to let go one of these years. You post this comment about every 10 posts it seems.
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The fact that other teams in the NFL passed on Portis for some strange reason does not make me feel much better! I only care who WE missed out on! As for me mentioning it before...yep, I guilty of that because to me it's a big deal when opportunity is there and we blinked! Reality is sometimes harsh and the reality is we stepped over a factor back like Portis to select a "nice" WR like Gaffney.
 
We def. need to beef up the O-line. If we can get them to be solid we can put anyone at runnning back and it wouldn't matter. Look at Denver they have like 9 RB's on the roster( exagerating(spelling)) and the all have success with that offense.
 
keyfro said:
well here's a thought what about travis henry...with mcgahee taking control of that team you know henry will be trade bait if the upcoming draft...but i don't know if i take a chance on a guy who has yet to stay healthy through a whole season...so maybe a 3rd round pick for him...but as for the draft i do see us drafting a back on the first day...the running game is so cretical for capers offense...i've yet to hear anyone mention cadillac williams...he's a sure first rounder if you ask me...way better than benson...but 3rd round material would be in jj arrington of cal and vernon morency(not sure on the spelling) from osu...both very capiable backs both excellent speed and size
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Vernon or Cadillac would both be very good picks if you can find them in the 3rd round, but back 2 years ago I didn't expect Lee Suggs and Chris Brown to still be available in the 3rd and 4th round but they where and look at them, they where steals.. Your right, I guess we should wait till the third round since we have two thirds....Unless DD starts to get on a roll then we can just forget about all of this.
 
Marcus said:
Well. with Peterson, you'd have to have the TOP pick in the draft. With Benson, he'd probably be one of the top 10 picks in the draft.
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You must remember that The #1 rated RB (Jackson) went 24th last draft. And the year before that it was #23 with Willis.

We CAN get the #1 RB with our first pick. Even #2 and #3 arent bad picks.

#1 Benson
#2 Williams
#3 Brown
#4 J.J. Arrington, RB, California (SR)
#5 Vernand Morency, RB, Oklahoma St. (JR)

#3-#5 are second round picks though.
 
Bill's/TexanFan said:
The fact that other teams in the NFL passed on Portis for some strange reason does not make me feel much better! I only care who WE missed out on! As for me mentioning it before...yep, I guilty of that because to me it's a big deal when opportunity is there and we blinked! Reality is sometimes harsh and the reality is we stepped over a factor back like Portis to select a "nice" WR like Gaffney.
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Hind Sight is 20/20 .
There are things we all wish we could go back and change ..... unfortunately we cant . :cool:

Lets Learn from our mistakes and focus on the future . :thumbup
 
There are hundreds of NFL stars picked in round 2 or 3, or 4 or 5, 6 or 7th rounds that teams passed on over the years that teams would go back and take if they had to do it over. Besides if you think Portis's production has declined at Washington what do you think it would have looked like our first season? It's not like we were a mature team and was one key back away from contention. We needed to fill and entire NFL roster and 22 starting positions. It's not like we have had bad drafts. I can criticize all 32 teams drafts by cherry picking names later and playing the shoulda, woulda, coulda game. There is no team that has an ideal draft every year. None. To take one pick and drone on endlessly about how big a mistake it was is ridiculous. Heck, it's been THREE years! Too bad it set this franchise and the other 30 teams that passed him back nearly 5 years. The entire NFL may not be able to overcome this. The Broncos have won all those Super Bowls with Portis and the Skins are well on their way to the crown because Clinton Portis is their feature back. The horror of passing on Portis continues to haunt us as well as the Browns, Lions, Patriots, Bills, Eagles, and...
 
If we get Ronnie Brown in the draft I will be a happy guy. But I don't see him making it out of the first round, and since we're looking D it seems sort of unlikely.

Don't forget people were predicting Willis for our #3 AJ pick until he blew out his knee. That's the only reason he fell that far. (Would have been farther if the Bills hadn't gambled)
 
ledzeppelin269 said:
If we get Ronnie Brown in the draft I will be a happy guy. But I don't see him making it out of the first round, and since we're looking D it seems sort of unlikely.

Don't forget people were predicting Willis for our #3 AJ pick until he blew out his knee. That's the only reason he fell that far. (Would have been farther if the Bills hadn't gambled)
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Yeah but look at Willis Now, He is a good strong runner and his stiff arm puts people on the ground every game. I have always been a bills fan but I have always had much respect for this young Texans team and always will. The RB situation in Buffalo leaves me to believe Travis Henry will be traded for a draft pick at seasons end. Buffalo has the worst Oline in the game and for willis to come in and on both of his starts to post 100 yrd games is special. I was glad to see him go to buffalo in the draft but, I wanted to move up to get either AJ or Terrell suggs which I knew would never happen. AJ was a great pick for the Texans in that draft and I bet David Carr couldn't have been any happier about the pick.
 
keyfro said:
well here's a thought what about travis henry...with mcgahee taking control of that team you know henry will be trade bait if the upcoming draft...
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Exactly what I was thinking.

I was actually looking at Carolina as another team who has two potential star backs splitting time, even though it has a lot to do with injuries. Stephan Davis is getting older, but still has plenty to offer to any team, and DeShaun Foster has flashed some evidence that he could one day be a team's anchor in the backfield.

Not ready to give up on DD though. He still looks good catching passes out of the backfield and has been nicked up a little bit. Hopefully it turn it on and this won't be as big an issue come the offseason.
 
corrosion said:
Hind Sight is 20/20 .
There are things we all wish we could go back and change ..... unfortunately we cant . :cool:

Lets Learn from our mistakes and focus on the future . :thumbup
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As for hind site being 20/20 there were some of us who thought on draft day 2002 it was 20/20 THEN as far as the Texan's selecting Clinton Portis! At the time some fan were asking what the heck do you know....adding that Charley Casserly & Company knew what they were doing. Also, some said....let's wait and see how it turns out. And now, two years later, people like yourself are saying...."let's learn from our mistakes and focus on the future." In layman terms....let's not discuss it! That's how G.M's keep their jobs...they are seldom held accountable for their mistakes.
In Buffalo some fan's are now starting to become "uneasy" with the play of ORT Mike Williams, U. Texas. Williams was the 4th player selected in the entire draft and thusfar his play has been average at best. When the heat was turned up on GM Tom Donahoe for selecting Williams one fan rushed to Donahoes defense by asking...."How was Tom to know that Mike Williams couldn't play?" All I could do was idonno:
 
I heard Richard Justice on 610am this morning talking about the Redskins. He used to cover the Redskins and knows the situation over there pretty well. He says that Gibbs is pretty fed up with Clinton Portis and Sean Taylor, that Portis sleeps during team meetings.

Sometimes a player's production on the field is cancelled out by his negative influence in the locker room.
 
i say if our defense continues to play like it has the remainder of the year we get Benson coming out of Texas ! He's not only fast but can make people miss with his feet and can over power defensive players as well ! But if we have another Key injury i say we focus on Defense !
 
BornOrange said:
I heard Richard Justice on 610am this morning talking about the Redskins. He used to cover the Redskins and knows the situation over there pretty well. He says that Gibbs is pretty fed up with Clinton Portis and Sean Taylor, that Portis sleeps during team meetings.

Sometimes a player's production on the field is cancelled out by his negative influence in the locker room.
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Whether or not Joe Gibbs is having problems keeping Portis awake I don't know. What I do know is that on game day Clinton seems to be wide awake. Another thing I know is that some people like to point negatives on players in an effort to makes themselves feel better about not drafting the player. Sure, all of us would like to believe that every player in the NFL would stay awake in meetings and give coaches their undivided attention but this is the real world and it's not the case.
You also mentioned "negative influence in the locker room". This is perhaps over-rated expression in sports! Again, fans want to believe that players all love and respect one another.....wrong! In reality, there are players in this league, on the same team, who HATE one another but they are still team-mates and they play as one on Sunday.
 
time for beerlover to pipe in on this topic, we don't need to use our 1st round pick on a RB period. Wells has been a pleasent surprise & looks like a long term fit adding depth & toughness. Dominack is holding onto the football extremely well as of late, he has good hands coming out of the backfield & still possess good footwork with nice cut back ability. Hollings has been the enigma because of health concerns we still don't really know what or how he will be able to contribute in the future.

that being said the Texans are most likely looking for a banger type NFL prototype prospect like Deuce Staley (5-11 220) that for some reason (back-up roll, injured, small school) is not as well known as any of those mentioned as 1st round picks. If the right person is still avaialable late in the 2nd round like Ronnie Brown of Auburn (6-1 225) then MAYBE the Texans would select a RB that high.

NFL Coutdown says-

Strengths: Very good size...Great speed...Excellent receiver out of the backfield...Very strong and runs hard...Has good balance...Displays good vision and hits the hole hard...Can run over defenders or run away from them.
Weaknesses: Never had the opportunity to be the main ball carrier in college...Not real shifty...Has had some minor injuries problems and durability might be a question mark...Not an explosive runner.
Notes: Overshadowed by Cadillac Williams but may in fact be the better pro when all is said and done...One of the best, if not the best, all-around running back prospects in this draft.
- Scott Wright

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Let's just get this straight, right up front. Ronnie Brown is the best running back in this draft. Now stop it. If you are thinking that Cadillac, Benson or even Kay–Jay is better, you're wrong. I’m sorry, but I looked at the film. I don’t look at the hype; I don’t repeat what other people say and speed is not the most important skill of a running back. Ronnie is a bigger version of Curtis Martin on and off the field. Ronnie has great instincts, quickness, balance, burst and receiving skills. He has tackle- breaking strength and good elusiveness. He knows how to be patient and set up his blocks. What I also see on the film is that his teammates have a great respect for him and like him. When he goes to the sidelines, there is always someone to greet him and he always has a smile on his face. He seems to be a great teammate and he and Williams seem to have a true friendship with each other. Ronnie (Burn Them) Brown...he has the speed and strength in the passing and running game to burn the other team on every down.
 
I say we dont even draft a running back in this draft we seem to be doing fine the way we are now and we could use a litle more depth on the defense, our offense if good enough to win us games we just need to make sure our D is good enough to secure the games dor us ! We draft mailny D this year no RB unless its maybe a late round guy !
 
TexansTrueFan said:
i say if our defense continues to play like it has the remainder of the year we get Benson coming out of Texas ! He's not only fast but can make people miss with his feet and can over power defensive players as well ! But if we have another Key injury i say we focus on Defense !
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I thought we wanted to cure our fumbling problems.
 
BuffSoldier said:
Most mock drafts see us going either Marcus Spears or OT Alex Barren in the first round.
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Wow, I can just hear Capers yelling "You screwed up Spears!" and one Marcus Spears would think he was yelling at the other. :hehe:


"You doesn't have to call me Johnson."
 
El Tejano said:
I thought we wanted to cure our fumbling problems.
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ok ok my mistake well why dont you call up James Allen and talk him into coming back to play for us :woot NOOOOOOOO Just Joking !! I really dont think we will or need to draft a running back in the next draft !
 
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