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Reggie Bush is well on his way...

And our running game has been pitiful. I've tried to be optimistic and look at the potential Mario has, but this just is not cutting it. We can't protect Carr and can't run the ball. Those two things together equal one thing: a loss.
 
Who cares what Reggie Bush is which is so far barely average.The question for Bush is if he can hold up a full season 25 carries a game.Bush was taken way to early for a 3rd down back.

On the other hand Mario Williams will be a cornerstone in the defense for the next ten years.He will take this first season to develope but with a few chains rattling he will be a valuable part of the defense for a long time.

Go Houston!11 and 5:whip:


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you can not knock a pick within the first year after 3-4 years is when you can usally call a pick a bust or a great one.
 
Dime said:
Wow.. then you should go and be a Saints fan..
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No Texans should have made the correct draft pick...

I still live in Houston not New Orleans, they just have what should be the Texans running back.
 
Bush was only the Saints #2 running back today, as Mcalister had more
yards than him. As far as all rookie runners, Mahoney with NE had a better day than Bush.
 
highroller28 said:
this thread may die, but the debate rages on.
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blah, blah, blah. There is no debate. The draft is over and we will not know if the Texans made the right decision for at least 5 years.

See me then....:ok:

:mario:
 
Revolution said:
blah, blah, blah. There is no debate. The draft is over and we will not know if the Texans made the right decision for at least 5 years.

See me then....:ok:

:mario:
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EXACTLY!!!!

But I want an opinion of how many yards reggie will get this year in his rookie season? 1,000, 1200, 1300? Just curious as to what you think.
 
Something to think about when the lights go out. We didn't need another GQ model.

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To all of you guys saying there is no debate...

There IS a debate and that's the problem! You are going to have people come on this board for the next 10 years and whine about Reggie Bush. There is no excuse for the pick. Only a serious injury for Bush will keep it from being one of the worst picks in history.

The entire world sees it as a bad pick. Just admit it and move on.
 
houstonfan, besides the reason i gave, which are all legitimate, reggie hasn't shown in any of the preseason games or today's that he'll be a 1,000 yard rusher.

why don't you answer your own question, and give us some reasons as to why you feel he'll get however many rushing yards you're predicting.
 
tbell ncsu said:
600 yards.

1. he is not an every down back.
2. he is a backup.
3. he is playing with the saints.
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600 yards huh...Well he's got 121 rushing and receiving yards after game one...........
 
I'm just wondering when this board is going to finally admit that Bush is going to be a great player. Closing your eyes to reality makes you guys appear childish.
 
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tbell ncsu said:
600 yards.

1. he is not an every down back.
2. he is a backup.
3. he is playing with the saints.
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That's a ridiculous estimate. He's a back up right now & got 142 yards. He'll move to the # 1 back in time.

He's by far & away a higher impact player right now that Mario. That doesn't mean that Mario won't turn into one.

The best thing about today was Demeco Ryans. He was great. At least they made one good pick.
 
D-line kept the OL off of Demeco.. that is what they do.. Demeco had a good game.. problem comes when CB's are making more plays then the Dl
 
maybe i should've clarified in that post. reggie bush will have 600 yards RUSHING during his rookie season.

He's by far & away a higher impact player right now that Mario.
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thank you, shannon sharpe. in my world of football, running backs are pretty much always a higher impact player than a defensive end. the only exception that i can think of is julius peppers, and that would really depend on which running back you're comparing him to.
 
Shader said:
I'm just wondering when this board is going to finally admit that Bush is going to be a great player. Closing your eyes to reality makes you guys appear childish.
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I'm not saying that he won't be a great player, but he had a great day against a sub-par defense. Bottom line.
 
We've heard this ad nauseam. I'll repeat it anyway. RB's make a quicker impact on a team, but have shorter careers. They're also a lot more that are available each draft.

D-Linemen are slower to make an impact. Their careers tend to be a lot longer than RB's. They also don't come around as often. Charley Casserly said as much today in the CBS pregame. Just because he didn't make 4 sacks and 12 tackles today doesn't mean he's a bust. Mario's gonna draw double teams leaving other guys available to make tackles for now.

You can't compare these guys to basketball players. 2 totally different games. D-Linemen usually don't score. They don't run for yards and don't catch passes. Like I said...apples to oranges.

Watch Dwight Freeney run roughshod all over our offense next week and you'll see what the Texans were thinking when they took Mario.
 
I think all the mods are at the game. I expect this thread will move soon enough to a the NFL forum and die quietly.
 
Texan said:
He'll move to the # 1 back in time.
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If I were a Saints fan and Reggie Bush got the nod ahead of Deuce...I would be absolutely pissed.

Bush is a flashy player who's NOT a #1 running back. He's great at using open space to make guys miss as well as sliding out and playing WR. He's NOT good at powering the football between the guards to get that tough 1st down. Look at the championship game against UT...they went to White instead.

That's not to say he's not good or doesn't have talent. But Reggie Bush isn't perfect, he has flaws in his game that just won't allow him to do certain things (i.e. carry the ball 25+ times). Anyone who thinks he can do that is being entirely unrealistic. How successful is Vick when he's stuck inside the pocket for an entire game? His abilities simply do not complement a pure passing game.


Texans fans...we picked Mario Williams. Get over it. I've said this before and I'll say it again...if you think we needed Bush then you didn't want Kubiak. Our running system HATES flashy backs like Bush. And while for a year or two we might be pining for a flashy back, once our offensive line begins to click, we'll see just how much cap room we'll save each year in being able to use a highly effective RBBC system. With the money we could save from not taking Bush, we might just be able to find some killer DB's in the future. Have hope! :fans:
 
TheCD said:
If I were a Saints fan and Reggie Bush got the nod ahead of Deuce...I would be absolutely pissed.

Bush is a flashy player who's NOT a #1 running back. He's great at using open space to make guys miss as well as sliding out and playing WR. He's NOT good at powering the football between the guards to get that tough 1st down. Look at the championship game against UT...they went to White instead.

That's not to say he's not good or doesn't have talent. But Reggie Bush isn't perfect, he has flaws in his game that just won't allow him to do certain things (i.e. carry the ball 25+ times). Anyone who thinks he can do that is being entirely unrealistic. How successful is Vick when he's stuck inside the pocket for an entire game? His abilities simply do not complement a pure passing game.


Texans fans...we picked Mario Williams. Get over it. I've said this before and I'll say it again...if you think we needed Bush then you didn't want Kubiak. Our running system HATES flashy backs like Bush. And while for a year or two we might be pining for a flashy back, once our offensive line begins to click, we'll see just how much cap room we'll save each year in being able to use a highly effective RBBC system. With the money we could save from not taking Bush, we might just be able to find some killer DB's in the future. Have hope! :fans:
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Ding, ding, ding, ding! You've just won the sixty four million dollar question! Couldn't have said it better myself!

Unless all you whinny little babies who have the man-love for Bush or Young have a time machine, I suggest you all either shut up or get off the Texans bus and get on the bus headed back to N.O. or budville! If you don't support the Mario pick then you don't support Kubiak, and you are NOT a Texan fan! :challenge

Kubiak has a plan for building this team and it starts with the LINES! It's going to take time for the O-line and D-line to develop. Philly won the battle in the trenches today, and that is why they won the game. It may take us a year or two to get all the pieces in place, but like they say, Rome wasn't built in a day! JMHO!
 
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