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Should we cut Domanick Davis ?

Should the Texans cut Domanick Davis?

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MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS

MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS

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Just a quick poll, should we cut Domanick Davis from the Roster on Sept. 2nd final cut? I have read many mixed reactions on this board, do we have enough talent with the 4 remaining backs on the roster to suceed.....Or is Domanick a vital role on this Texans Team?
 
Its a very tough call if you ask me.

You have 2 very young guys who have shown a lot of promise.

However, there is no replacing experience, which DD has. Personally, I wouldnt cut him.

I would keep him on the roster, and most likely have him inactive for 6-8 weeks and see how things go.

From memory, he did pass him physical in camp right? Meaning, he is inelligible for the PUP list :(
 
I would put him on IR since he cant be placed on the pup list . I think he can contribute to the team if not this season then next .

What are the cap hit if we cut him this season ? .... If he cant play next season then cut him and take the loss .
 
I just saw on my fantasy football newswire that Lundy is expected to start for the Texans opening week. Can anyone verify that?
 
corrosion said:
I would put him on IR since he cant be placed on the pup list . I think he can contribute to the team if not this season then next .

What are the cap hit if we cut him this season ? .... If he cant play next season then cut him and take the loss .
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Of course people will vote no. You haven't given them an either/or. As in either Davis gets cut or Joppru (just for discussion purposes although he could be on the bubble since the 3rd FB did a good job the other game). If you give them an either/or the numbers will get much closer.
 
put him on IR this year and see what next season brings. If Lundy and Morency do the business then maybe DD will be gone. Its easier to trade a healthy RB though.
Looks like I'll have to change my fantasy team....
 
HOU-TEX said:
I voted "cut him" due to the fact the guy hasn't finished a season yet without getting hurt. We have a promising young backfield now without him. :redtowel:
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Good Point HOU-TEX ! it truely hurts not having him out on the field I'd rather see Kubiak put that extra spot to where we need more depth, than just having 52 players that can only preform.....instead of 53:stirpot:
 
OK...next question. Is Lundy going to get the bulk of the carries, or is going to be a 50/50 thing with Morency?
 
Odds are, you cant trade him either.

he wouldnt pass a physical for it to go through.

And didnt he just sign a new contract last year? Im wondering what the cap implications are.
 
I'm almost positve Kubiak will do 50/50 just to give the opposing team Defense every week a different look......also keep other teams off balance as to who they need to key on every week, that was the bad thing about Domanick every team new he was going to get the ball every game, but if we can have a 2 punch backfield, that should keep other teams off balance, look at Pittsburg, Denver, and some other succesfull teams they always had two talented backs, going into the playoffs........making them a winner.
 
I can't vote in this. It's just too close to call. You can't trade him so forget about that. Nobody is going to give us anything for our 4th round, easily injured, pain sensitive, bicycle riding RB. We can't PUP him because he wasn't "hurt" when he went to camp. We can either cut him or place him on the IR.

Despite the fact that Lundy is starting (or is supposed to start) I'd expect the two backs (Lundy and Morency) to have similar numbers until one of them starts to pull away and stand out. I expect that back to eventually be Morency but who really knows.
 
MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS said:
I'm almost positve Kubiak will do 50/50 just to give the opposing team Defense every week a different look......also keep other teams off balance as to who they need to key on every week, that was the bad thing about Domanick every team new he was going to get the ball every game, but if we can have a 2 punch backfield, that should keep other teams off balance, look at Pittsburg, Denver, and some other succesfull teams they always had two talented backs, going into the playoffs........making them a winner.
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The Patriots look very nice as well so far this pre-season with the rookie and Dillon. I think more and more teams will be doing the dual threat thing as time goes. It not only takes the load off the other RB, it provides different looks for the D.
 
gwallaia said:
I was not aware of that rule.
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Once a player passes a physical in camp, or is taken off of the PUP list, he is no longer eligible to be placed on it.

He has to be on it for the duration of training camp, and then can be removed between weeks 6 and 8 I believe.

Someone told me these rules were attributable to Joe Gibbs in the 80s..apparently, he used to stash players on the PUP list as a just in case, for when other players got hurt.
 
gwallaia said:
I was not aware of that rule.
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Here is some back up for that...

"It'll be a tough decision for the final 53. We'll make the decision based on what's best for Domanick and the team."

The Texans will have several options. They can make Davis, 25, part of the final roster and wait for him to get healthy. They can place him on waivers. They can put him on injured reserve, which means he wouldn't play this season. They also could trade him, which is unlikely because he's damaged goods.

Davis, 5-9 and 227 pounds, can't be placed on the physically unable to perform list because he passed a physical before training camp.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/4147469.html
 
Can't PUP, can't trade, not healthy = CUT

I would imagine his contract wouldnt be an easy thing to swallow, but best get what we can out the way now. I like DD, but I like the Texans more.
 
DD has been a great RB for us. I'm not ready to throw him away because he was the one bright spot on this team when we had nothing. If he wants to retire thats one thing, but I think he should be allowed to try to rehab. However if he cannot get any better then he is now, and cannot play. Then there isn't much point in having the question. You would have to cut him. And yes that is a rather large cap hit to swallow.
 
I'm pulling out my old DD avatar that I made a year or two ago.

That tells you my answer.

I am going to gamble here and say:

DD makes the roster. DD has limited practices, and DD tries to do a Steve McNair and just play on Sundays.

I think when it comes down to it, DD wants to play...and DD wants to win. He has "heart" and I think he's going to get it done.

Now, if he gets re-injured or cannot gut it out in the midst of coming back...then, so be it. But I think he makes the tough call, and I think Kubiak gets this player back on the field because he's been more of a leader than almost any other player on our team. We sucked stones unless he was out there, and I know there's this battle cry that "We don't keep players for sentimental reasons..." but this is different IMO. He grinded out extra inches on his carries when others would have fallen short. I just think he gives it one more big push, and I think Kubiak grants it to him. I think we release Smith and keep DD, Morency, Lundy, and try to pick up one more back off waivers.

Guess we'll see, eh?
 
I love DD but he does no good for us when he is on the bench. Our running game looks exceptional at the moment and DD has no trade value, so we have no choice. We all love DD, but there is a time when people have to move on.

Keeping him on this roster and having him sit the entire season is what I like to call "Dum Capers" logic. Kubiak won't play favorites and the team will prosper because of that fact. Lundy and Morency are getting the job done on the field.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm looking for the hell no option.
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Ditto.

I'm hoping we can work out a Jerry Rice ala Niners agreement with him, when its time for him to leave the NFL. This guy has done so much for our team, and did too much for Capers and Co. He is the ONLY player on the team that I would never want cut, call me sentimental, but its like we owe this guy.... something .... right?

DD Forever

uh ....

Cowboys Never! w00t w00t!

:redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel:
 
uh...hell no?

Who do you want to keep on this team INSTEAD of DD? Smith? A corner? who? Just WHO?

No. And it's not even close.
 
ensign_lee said:
uh...hell no?

Who do you want to keep on this team INSTEAD of DD? Smith? A corner? who? Just WHO?

No. And it's not even close.
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More depth at any position would be nice. Why would you want someone on the roster that can't play?:confused:
 
I haven't read this entire thread, but IMO I do not have enough specific info on Davis' knee to make a determination on whether Davis should be cut or not.
 
From what I understand his injury doesn't effect his his actual physical ability, but it does make everything painful. So if he does play again, he may always be in serious pain while he is on the field. Physically he has checked out, now it is just a question of how much pain he can handle on the field.

I wonder if this rumor of him being cut has been intentionally put out in the media to get him motivated; to see if he will just play through the pain.

I think DD is woried that if he tries to play on it he may injure his knee to the point where he has to quit football. Then again, if he is always in pain his career might be over.

I want him to play! He is so good when he is on that I think he could be one of the top five RBs this year.

As for keeping him... Kubiak is meeting with him, the GM, his agent and probably the medical staff. The meeting this week will decide his fate. I hope he can play.
 
MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS said:
look at Pittsburg, Denver, and some other succesfull teams they always had two talented backs, going into the playoffs........making them a winner.
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HOU-TEX said:
The Patriots look very nice as well so far this pre-season with the rookie and Dillon. I think more and more teams will be doing the dual threat thing as time goes. It not only takes the load off the other RB, it provides different looks for the D.
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What do all of these teams have in common ? ..... Yes they have good rushing attacks but a lot of their success can be credited to their Offensive Lines .

Pittsburgh has for decades built their offense around a strong ground game , where does it start ? Up front with the big uglies .

Denver ? They can plug damn near any back into that system and make them look like a star .

As for the Texans , the run blocking wasnt great but nor was it horrible . Their problems stemmed more from Predictability and a poor scheme than poor run blocking . :twocents:
 
I'm going with the hell no reference. Let DD sit and keep rehabbing until after bye week and slowly work him back. Remember we are not asking him to carry the bulk of rushes, but just cutting the guy is CRAZY!!

A 85%DD is way better than a 100% Antwan Smith and Taylor.:twocents:
 
Just heard on 790 that we are definitely not cutting Davis...Kubes said that he won't be cut...
 
Davis has been a high spot on an otherwise horrible offense the last several years, i agree he has injury problems, but the guy deserves some respect from the organization. Put him on the PUP and if you have to IR let him try again next year. Remember he was drafted with the idea of being a special teamer and 3rd down back, he has produced way beyond our expectations.
 
I voted to cut him. Not For Long League. What have you done for us lately, etc... DD has been one of my favs and I hate it for him that he's wearing out already. Can we, as a team, really be sentimenstral at this point in time? We need to have the best players available on the roster. Period.
 
DocBar said:
I voted to cut him. Not For Long League. What have you done for us lately, etc... DD has been one of my favs and I hate it for him that he's wearing out already. Can we, as a team, really be sentimenstral at this point in time? We need to have the best players available on the roster. Period.
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I can be sentimental about DD, I don't know about "sentimenstral" though... that ones a toughie.
 
DocBar said:
I voted to cut him. Not For Long League. What have you done for us lately, etc... DD has been one of my favs and I hate it for him that he's wearing out already. Can we, as a team, really be sentimenstral at this point in time? We need to have the best players available on the roster. Period.
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Unfortunate but true. If we have to cut our losses, so be it. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would spend all his money at once, and got paid last year.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Just heard on 790 that we are definitely not cutting Davis...Kubes said that he won't be cut...
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(bump)

He's not getting cut. As I predicted.
 
Well he better suck it up and learn to play through the pain or he is going to get bashed on more than Carr...
 
Radio 790 just played a DD interview snippet where DD essentially says he is not improving.........a couple good days...then a couple bad days. But they also reported that Kub today stated that DD will be part of this team. He said that "everyone"---DD, coaching staff, medical staff will have an important meeting on Thursday to determine what will be done.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm looking for the hell no option.
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Me too, IMO it will take Lundy at least a year to really be comfortable picking up the blitz in the backfield. He just looks too raw at this point, even when he runs, to be a starter (well maybe not for this franchise). IMO DD and Morency need to split time this year. That way we can see if DD will really bounce back from his injury. I dont see the advantage in having David lying on his back every other play while Lundy gets his sea legs. I would rather DD be the starter anyway if he is physically able because he can gain yards from almost nothing. I would take a consistant runner 4-4.3 ypc who can block and catch, over a player with just potential upside, any day. Wali was not one of those guys like Bush who was groomed and drafted to be the premier back, if he developes into one fine but for now it wont be the best decision.
If DD is not the same after the surgery then its a different story.

DD
RUSHING

Year Team G GS Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ FD
2003 Houston Texans 14 10 238 1031 4.3 51 8 5 47
2004 Houston Texans 15 15 302 1188 3.9 44 13 5 56
2005 Houston Texans 11 11 230 976 4.2 44 2 3 39
TOTAL 40 36 770 3195 4.1 51 23 13 142

Wali Lundy
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0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
GET MY POINT?
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm looking for the hell no option.
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I couldn't agree with you more! DD has bust his ass to be the RB we all wished we had. Now he can't play a few preseason games and throw him under the bus, right. Hell, if the Texans can hold out hope for a guy who has yet to see a regular season game (Joppru) I know holding out for DD should not be a problem.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Just heard on 790 that we are definitely not cutting Davis...Kubes said that he won't be cut...
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I also heard the same thing on 610. Kubes pretty much said who ever started that rumor was stupid. The reason for the meeting on thursday with DD and the doctors is to see how long he will be out and if his going to be out for awhile he will be put on the IR.
 
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