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Superstar said:I hope they sign him soon. I know his agent is equivelant to Scott Boras in MLB, but Mcnair can out smart that man. Scott Boras is such a .
texanfan2100 said:From what I can tell, there can't be much to negotiate. All other picks are signed, so Winston gets whatever is left in the rookie pool. I would hope he'd see that he has a legitimate chance to be the starter at RT at some point this season, and that would motivate him to get into camp on time.
LCROD said:And/or get slightly less then Spencer whom was selected in the slot before.
That is probably what's going on, or Rick Smith or someone else who would be involved in contract preparation from the Texans FO is taking advantageBigDTexansFan said:am betting is agent busy with his BIG NAME clients and knowing Winston will get less than Spencer (lower cut in percentage) is not motivating him to get a deal done OR idiot thinks he can do a holdout and Texans will pay through nose. NEXT QUESTION..................ROFLMAO
Hervoyel said:I'd pay him exactly what I paid Spencer. This is a situation (one after the other) where the picks are interchangeable. I'd give him what we gave Spencer and call it a day.
I don't think it was some kind of random thing at all, because I'd be surprisedCloakNNNdagger said:I've heard the question asked why was one taken before the other, I have never really heard or read anything clarifying or justifying the order.
Hervoyel said:I'd pay him exactly what I paid Spencer. This is a situation (one after the other) where the picks are interchangeable. I'd give him what we gave Spencer and call it a day.
Dunta_23 said:I wonder if it was more of a contractual thing in taking Spencer before Winston knowing that Winston was the higher profile of the two prior to the draft...this way Spencer may be happier with a bit less whereas if Winston was taken first he would drive his price up resulting in Spencers price going up...anyone follow?
nunusguy said:he plays exactly the same position as Winston does. It couldn't get much more cut and dried than that as far as Winstons deal goes.
texanfan2002114 said:On Fox 26 tonight, they reported that from league sources that Winston will not be a hold out and will be into camp on time.
YoungTexanFan said:Well, this excites me. I still see Winston being our future LT and Spencer our RT or RG. I just can't see Spencer at LT, regardless of how hard I try.
cj5776 said:I used to share that opinion, because Spencer is much more of a power guy and very raw so the responsibility of protecting the qb blind side seems like way too much to ask of him. However the more I read about the zone blocking scheme, Winston and his aibilty to move athelically laterally seems like a better fit on the right side. Power blockers, like Spencer are not normally on the left but Winston does not seem to have enough power to handle the top notch pass rushers that come from that side.
YoungTexanFan said:Well, this excites me. I still see Winston being our future LT and Spencer our RT or RG. I just can't see Spencer at LT, regardless of how hard I try.
cj5776 said:I think that is the whole break down on the contract talks, they don't play the same position. LTs get paid a whole lot more than RTs.
Coach C. said:The pay scale for Winston and Spencer will not be that far off. He is will get a little less than Spencer, and report to TC on time.
swtbound07 said:I still have flashbacks to the FSU-MIAMI game watching winston get mauled....as much as i try, i cant get overly excited about this guy on our line
...also, on a side note, Ian Symonett from St. Pius X is now a LT at Miami. Local kid with so much upside its not even funny. The kid is HUGE! 6'10 330. I've worked in drills with him since I go to a school just down the street, but I'll be honest right now...NOBODY gets past him. He is a beast and a future 1st rounder draft pick.
If you're D'Brick Ferguson, OK. But IMO the Texans are far, far from settled asYoungTexanFan said:Well, this excites me. I still see Winston being our future LT and Spencer our RT or RG. I just can't see Spencer at LT, regardless of how hard I try.
Vinny said:Spencer is supposed to have elite feet for a big man. I can't wait to see him work at LT myself.
Elite feet at 352. Imagine what he can do at 325! This guy will be fun to watch.Vinny said:Spencer is supposed to have elite feet for a big man. I can't wait to see him work at LT myself.
Thats another thing that has me excited about this guy! TE in H.S., DT as Fr and So, OG as a Jr, and LT as Sr. He moved around to wherever his team needed him, but he still hasn't mastered the position. He'll be dominant onces he learns the little things.NoBullTexan said:As an aside, most people know that Winston was an All American TE at Midland Lee, but not too many know that Spencer was also a TE in H.S.
NoBullTexan said:As training camp unfolds Spencer is going to surprise and amaze a lot of you with his quick feet and athleticism. The coaches have asked him to lose some weight however, so I am pumped to see him at the August 5th fans day out at Reliant. Winston is still getting over a sever knee injury he sustained way back in 2004. As he gets his strength back in that knee, and it ought to be pretty quick, you will see a much better player. But right now his best position will be the right side. As an aside, most people know that Winston was an All American TE at Midland Lee, but not too many know that Spencer was also a TE in H.S.
AFD1717 said:Elite feet at 352. Imagine what he can do at 325! This guy will be fun to watch.
Oh. I thought his playing weight was 352. The guy is a freak anyway.Runner said:Just a note - he was "elite" around 330 lbs. before he put on his off-season weight. His diet will get him back to where he belongs.
LCROD said:I am so ready for some football. Every offseason seems longer and longer. I'm excited about seeing this oline.