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Texans | Terrence Murphy attends practice
Tue, 16 May 2006 23:20:11 -0700

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports free agent WR Terrence Murphy (Packers) attended the Texans' practice Tuesday, May 16. He is looking to sign on with a team as a free agent, but it could prove difficult. The Texans have spoken with Murphy, but it is unknown whether any team will accept the risks associated with signing him.

Here is why he's a risk -

Packers | More on Murphy release
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:48:53 -0700

Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports the release of WR Terrence Murphy by the Green Bay Packers was not easy on either side. Even though the Packers think it is too much of a risk for Murphy to play, he intends to see if other teams are interested. As a result of being placed on waivers/failed physical, Murphy can be claimed by any team in the NFL starting Monday, April 24, and can negotiate with any team if he isn't claimed. Murphy was found to have a bruised spinal cord and tests revealed that he was suffering from stenosis, or a narrowing of the spinal column. The Packers spent nearly five months evaluating the opinions of the specialists Murphy saw and in the end thought they just couldn't put him on the field. Murphy and agent Doug Hendrickson met with the Packers Tuesday, April 18, and were told of the team's decision. It was an emotional moment for both Murphy and general manager Ted Thompson. Chances are he will be claimed because the team would not be under any financial obligation other than counting his minimum base salary against their salary cap.
 
Too risky. Id hate to see a guy get seriously injured by putting his life in risk. Not worth it.
If he does get a team to sign him, id hope its the Texans. He was a great player for the aggy's.
 
It almost scares me. I like the guy and everything, but he doesn't need to put his life in danger just so he can play football now. I don't see him making the team if we sign him which could end up being a good thing for him.
 
Obviously, Murphy is suffering from the "it will never happen to me" syndrome. For his sake, I hope saner heads prevail and he isn't picked by anyone. Football isn't worth being paralyzed or dead.
 
I think Kubes is just seeing how much competition he can make on our team. He's doing a good job so far so I wouldn't be upset if we signed him.
 
Buffi2 said:
Obviously, Murphy is suffering from the "it will never happen to me" syndrome. For his sake, I hope saner heads prevail and he isn't picked by anyone. Football isn't worth being paralyzed or dead.
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I am embarrassed to not remember the gentleman;s name, but who got severely injured/possible paralyzed in the our first pre-season game? It was the hall of fame game and the guys got hurt on a special temas play if I recall. Can anyone help me out? I am going to look it up on line for now.
 
leomont evans...got movement and was walking around soon thereafter. Too scary and I really don't care to see that again...I would pass on the kid
 
Buffi2 said:
Obviously, Murphy is suffering from the "it will never happen to me" syndrome. For his sake, I hope saner heads prevail and he isn't picked by anyone. Football isn't worth being paralyzed or dead.
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I too have stenosis of the spine (lower not upper back). Whadya do? Live on eggshells or go out and live life to the fullest your pain (he seems to not have any) and mobility will let you. He could play and not have any problems, or one fluke turn and be paralyzed. In Houston, if you get to your neuro or orthopedic, or other specialized spine surgeon ASAP (all us back injured folks have one), you have a great chance of being OK but time is of the essence in those situations. We have great surgeons in our city for this! But, who knows....you could be hit by a bus going to the store for beer. Its a crap shoot, and totally his call if he wants to take that chance.

As long as he signs off any liability to the Texans for this type of injury, we should be fine. Life itself is a risk. I trust that Murphy knows well enough the risk he bears. :ok: :)
 
I see it like a truck driver that goes to Iraq for say 150k well this is a better risk IMHO he gets to play a game he loves and makes millions. Where else will he be able to make that kind of money?
 
Serious question: Is this "Yo" Murphy we're talking about? Formerly of every football league around?
 
LCROD said:
Serious question: Is this "Yo" Murphy we're talking about? Formerly of every football league around?
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Terrence Murphy was the Packers 2nd round pick last year from A&M.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/417478
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/murphy_terrence
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/59352.html
http://football.about.com/od/nfldrafthistory/a/2005draftresult_2.htm

That's all I found. Hurt after his third game, I believe.
 
way to risky, i dont wanna see this guys who life ruined, especially if hes in a texans uniform when it happens. i say NO !!!
 
We had a guy on our team that had a simular problem. Our old coach gets a call one spring from SFA. And the SFA coach is all pumped up about this great tailback that has fallen from heaven and filled a void at tailback. Then My old ball coach laid it out for him. He couldn't play. One shot to the neck and he'd be paralized if not worse. Great credit to the guy that he walked on and won the Tailback position in the spring.
I hope Murphy finds someone who cares for him and tells him straight...there is more to life than football. It's over. My old teammate has four beautiful children, a great wife and a wonderful life. He's rich....but he's not wealthy. There's lots of folks believe it or not that would not trade that situatiuon for all the gold in the NFL. Go figgure.
 
FILO_girl said:
I too have stenosis of the spine (lower not upper back). Whadya do? Live on eggshells or go out and live life to the fullest your pain (he seems to not have any) and mobility will let you. He could play and not have any problems, or one fluke turn and be paralyzed. In Houston, if you get to your neuro or orthopedic, or other specialized spine surgeon ASAP (all us back injured folks have one), you have a great chance of being OK but time is of the essence in those situations. We have great surgeons in our city for this! But, who knows....you could be hit by a bus going to the store for beer. Its a crap shoot, and totally his call if he wants to take that chance.

As long as he signs off any liability to the Texans for this type of injury, we should be fine. Life itself is a risk. I trust that Murphy knows well enough the risk he bears. :ok: :)
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Terrence Murphy


First of all, the implications of spinal stenosis in the lumbar area can be quite lesser when compared to the same condition present in the cervical region. First of all the lumbar vertebrae are very large and sturdy with normally stronger supporting structures as compared to the cervical vertebrae. If you look at “catastrophic” contact sports injuries, 75% are cervical spine injuries. It has also been determined that 10-15% of football players will sustain cervical neck injuries. If you sustain major spinal cord injury at the lumbar level, paraplegia (paralysis of the waist down) can result. If you sustain major spinal cord injury at the cervical level, quadriplegia (paralysis of the neck down) can result. If there is mild to moderate trauma to the spinal cord, in stenosis cases, there is very little room for swelling (expansion) to occur because of the smaller opening through which the cord passes. The bone obviously cannot expand and the spinal cord becomes compressed from the unyielding pressure. And much like a tourniquet being left on too long, it cuts off the circulation to the cord, and eventually the cord dies. If you can get to the hospital in time, decompression by medicines (such as steroids) which decrease swelling or surgical procedures can save the cord structures from dying, thus avoiding paralysis. However, If there is major tearing or transection of the cord due to major injuries such as displaced or fragmented fractures, and subluxing injury (one vertebra sliding on another creating a scissor action on the cord). In these cases getting to a hospital “on time” will have little or no effect on the outcome of paralysis.

I’ll leave conclusions to you all as to if Murphy should be resuming his career let alone if the Texans should entertain helping him do so. Indeed, this could be more than just a “career decision” for this young man.
 
aj. said:
What I really want to know is what you think of Body World 3.
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Body World 3 was AWESOME. I say pass on the guy. I've had several friends paralyzed and it's not worth it.
 
Murphy would easily be the slot receiver for this team if we signed him. After Javon Walker got injured he was already there #2 receiver then he got injured himself. None of us can really say one way or another wether or not he can play, that is all up to him. As long as he fully understands the risks I definatly would have to say who am I to take this mans dream away let him play.
 
aj. said:
What I really want to know is what you think of Body World 3.
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aj, I was going to take the kids last month and things fell through. Plan to try again soon..will feed back to you then. It should indeed be awesome from all that I've read.:)
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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aj, I was going to take the kids last month and things fell through. Plan to try again soon..will feed back to you then. It should indeed be awesome from all that I've read.:)
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IMO, it was a waste of money...The exhibit was rather small...and the bodies look fake...I know they're real, but it just didn't look interesting because of its plastic like appearance...Overall I give that exhibit a C-Grade...
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
IMO, it was a waste of money...The exhibit was rather small...and the bodies look fake...I know they're real, but it just didn't look interesting because of its plastic like appearance...Overall I give that exhibit a C-Grade...
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I thought it was pretty incredible.
 
Same here.

The brain and nerves display was the one I found more than a bit fascinating -- along with the diseased organs stuff.

Gunther von Hagens must be one very unique individual.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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Terrence Murphy


First of all, the implications of spinal stenosis in the lumbar area can be quite lesser when compared to the same condition present in the cervical region. First of all the lumbar vertebrae are very large and sturdy with normally stronger supporting structures as compared to the cervical vertebrae. If you look at “catastrophic” contact sports injuries, 75% are cervical spine injuries. It has also been determined that 10-15% of football players will sustain cervical neck injuries. If you sustain major spinal cord injury at the lumbar level, paraplegia (paralysis of the waist down) can result. If you sustain major spinal cord injury at the cervical level, quadriplegia (paralysis of the neck down) can result. If there is mild to moderate trauma to the spinal cord, in stenosis cases, there is very little room for swelling (expansion) to occur because of the smaller opening through which the cord passes. The bone obviously cannot expand and the spinal cord becomes compressed from the unyielding pressure. And much like a tourniquet being left on too long, it cuts off the circulation to the cord, and eventually the cord dies. If you can get to the hospital in time, decompression by medicines (such as steroids) which decrease swelling or surgical procedures can save the cord structures from dying, thus avoiding paralysis. However, If there is major tearing or transection of the cord due to major injuries such as displaced or fragmented fractures, and subluxing injury (one vertebra sliding on another creating a scissor action on the cord). In these cases getting to a hospital “on time” will have little or no effect on the outcome of paralysis.

I’ll leave conclusions to you all as to if Murphy should be resuming his career let alone if the Texans should entertain helping him do so. Indeed, this could be more than just a “career decision” for this young man.
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Dude, you're either a doctor or belong on one of those "I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express" commercials. Outstanding post.
 
DocBar said:
Dude, you're either a doctor or belong on one of those "I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express" commercials. Outstanding post.
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CND is our resident doctor and yes, ocassionaly he stays at a Holiday inn Express and then his post get real in depth.
 
From someone thats been in this position(Granted not at this level of play)I can tell all its hard to give it up. My senior year of high school spring traing I droped my head and fractured the seventh vertebrae in my neck. I was in denial of my sitition and went to three different doctor waiting for one to tell me football was not over and I would again get to pad-up.Never happened every doctor said the same thing "one hit and you risk TOTAL paralysis" that was it Mom and Dad steped in and playing was over. I owe them big. I have be married for fourteen years and am a father of two. My daughter is a competion cheerleader on three teams and my son has played flag football for a season this will be his first in pads. I was the asst. coach last year on his flag team and steped on a football field for the first time in 20 years and the feeling was something that I could never put in words.This year I've been asked to coach the flag team. Basicly I saying that life it full of forks in the road and you must pick which road to take. I'll never know what kind of player I could have been, but I know my life is full even without playing the game. Terrence I'm sure has the best doctors in the world and I'm sure they has advised him to the best of their ability but sometimes it take the act of others to make you pick which road you take in this case I hope the Texans tell Terrence to take a road away from playing football. Life is to short and there is one after play is over.There was a post earler about coaching and this might be a viable way for Terrence to go. JMO thought I would through it out there as a been-their point of view.
 
Thanks for sharing your great story. When making "life" decisions, it is seldom that taking the conservative direction leads to catastrophe. One that leaves their love of football behind.....and healthy.... can always look back and think about what could have been............and then look forward to the future. One that sustains quadriplegia can likewise look back and think of what could have been..............and have much less to look forward to the future. Having the freedom choice is beautiful............making sensible choices may need some help..................I've taken care of many who have wondered what life would be like had they exercised a more conservative sensible decision.
 
I rode bulls and bucking horses for 12 years and have had several "major"(in MY eyes, anyway) injuries. I've had the right side of my head caved in( broken eye socket, jaw(twice), cheekbone, skull, torn sinus), 7 ribs, arm(twice), leg, wrist, 9 knee surgeries on both knees, torn labrum and rotator cuff on R shoulder(won't even get into dislocations of), torn cuff on L, fractured R hip, lacerated kidney, bruised liver, fractured sternum. I'm fairly familiar with injury and rehab. I'm 36 and it is a blessing to sleep all night and get up in the morning. I have arthritis in both knees and right hip and need surgery on both shoulders but the cure is as bad as the problem. I regret a lot of my decisions now.When you're in your early 20's, most people aren't equipped for thinking 20 yrs down the road. I've seen several men killed and more than that who wish they'd died in the arena. The fleeting moments of glory are just that: FLEETING. Wounds heal, chicks dig scars. Paralysis lasts FOREVER. Glory is in the eye of the beholder(see also suicide bombers). I would give everything I won rodeoing to be able to run and play with my son.
There's just so much more to life than the brief amount of glory attained from pro sports to justify the risk of permanent injury. Ask Dagger what it's like for patients to pee thru a catheter or get dressed in the morning, or wipe you *ss or nose when paralyzed. I'd be very disappointed if the Texans sign this young man. I say this in the context of this young man already having a medical condition that leaves hi prone to injury. You can't alk on eggshells throughout life, but one shouldn't unnecessarily tempt the fates, either.
 
DocBar said:
I rode bulls and bucking horses for 12 years and have had several "major"(in MY eyes, anyway) injuries. I've had the right side of my head caved in( broken eye socket, jaw(twice), cheekbone, skull, torn sinus), 7 ribs, arm(twice), leg, wrist, 9 knee surgeries on both knees, torn labrum and rotator cuff on R shoulder(won't even get into dislocations of), torn cuff on L, fractured R hip, lacerated kidney, bruised liver, fractured sternum. I'm fairly familiar with injury and rehab. I'm 36 and it is a blessing to sleep all night and get up in the morning. I have arthritis in both knees and right hip and need surgery on both shoulders but the cure is as bad as the problem. I regret a lot of my decisions now.When you're in your early 20's, most people aren't equipped for thinking 20 yrs down the road. I've seen several men killed and more than that who wish they'd died in the arena. The fleeting moments of glory are just that: FLEETING. Wounds heal, chicks dig scars. Paralysis lasts FOREVER. Glory is in the eye of the beholder(see also suicide bombers). I would give everything I won rodeoing to be able to run and play with my son.
There's just so much more to life than the brief amount of glory attained from pro sports to justify the risk of permanent injury. Ask Dagger what it's like for patients to pee thru a catheter or get dressed in the morning, or wipe you *ss or nose when paralyzed. I'd be very disappointed if the Texans sign this young man. I say this in the context of this young man already having a medical condition that leaves hi prone to injury. You can't alk on eggshells throughout life, but one shouldn't unnecessarily tempt the fates, either.
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Damn dude, you got pretty messed up. I'm sorry you had to go through all that.

I wouldn't sign him either. It only took me 2 knee surguries, 1 ankle surgury and 1 shoulder surgury to figure out that football was no longer in my future.:crutch:
 
HOU-TEX said:
Damn dude, you got pretty messed up. I'm sorry you had to go through all that.

I wouldn't sign him either. It only took me 2 knee surguries, 1 ankle surgury and 1 shoulder surgury to figure out that football was no longer in my future.:crutch:
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I can walk and talk and earn a living. When I got my head caved in, I decided to walk a way. This guy might not have that chance. I don't advocate playing life safe, but when you have a medical condition like he has, why bother with the risk? I make excellent money for my profession, but pay the price by traveling all the time. If the money is THAT important to Murphy, get a job paying good money. That's what a college education is for. It certainly isn't for the knowledge. I've learned tons more by OJT than I ever learned in a classroom. The sheepskin paves the way for him to make good $$. If a team signs him, that team is utterly devoid of conscience and integrity.
 
DocBar said:
I can walk and talk and earn a living. When I got my head caved in, I decided to walk a way. This guy might not have that chance. I don't advocate playing life safe, but when you have a medical condition like he has, why bother with the risk? I make excellent money for my profession, but pay the price by traveling all the time. If the money is THAT important to Murphy, get a job paying good money. That's what a college education is for. It certainly isn't for the knowledge. I've learned tons more by OJT than I ever learned in a classroom. The sheepskin paves the way for him to make good $$. If a team signs him, that team is utterly devoid of conscience and integrity.
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I hear ya my friend. I went to college myself but you're 100% correct about OJT. Be safe on all your travels.
 
I posted all that to show that Terrence Murphy should not be allowed to play in the NFL. Even if it means the teams kind of boycott him. When a man is in his early 20's, he's still invincible and unreasonable. Sometimes wiser heads need to prevail. Murphy has a college degree and can earn a better living than two thirds of the country. It would break my heart to see him get hurt playing a silly game like football when he can have so much more in life. And, besides limitations regarding range of motion/pain in my shoulders and headaches, I'm just fine and going strong. I got lucky and quit. Murphy should do the same. All of you fans with children know what I mean.
 
DocBar said:
I posted all that to show that Terrence Murphy should not be allowed to play in the NFL. All of you fans with children know what I mean.
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I am alway concerned when as the result of choices made ... an individual believes that his value is weighed in terms of the physical world... without considering the mental and spirital universe.

My father said this concept so much simpler when I was in high school; "Son, playing football is about muscle develpment... going to College is about mental development. Which one do you think should matter the most when you are 35 when the average life span for a male is 65?"

My guess is that Mr. Murphy doesn't think he has a choice and that he has invested his entire development as a human being in the physical world. Trying to stay in the NFL with such risks is short-sighted and self-degraded thinking. Mr. Murphy should want to be something more than a muscle.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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Terrence Murphy


First of all, the implications of spinal stenosis in the lumbar area can be quite lesser when compared to the same condition present in the cervical region. First of all the lumbar vertebrae are very large and sturdy with normally stronger supporting structures as compared to the cervical vertebrae. If you look at “catastrophic” contact sports injuries, 75% are cervical spine injuries. It has also been determined that 10-15% of football players will sustain cervical neck injuries. If you sustain major spinal cord injury at the lumbar level, paraplegia (paralysis of the waist down) can result. If you sustain major spinal cord injury at the cervical level, quadriplegia (paralysis of the neck down) can result. If there is mild to moderate trauma to the spinal cord, in stenosis cases, there is very little room for swelling (expansion) to occur because of the smaller opening through which the cord passes. The bone obviously cannot expand and the spinal cord becomes compressed from the unyielding pressure. And much like a tourniquet being left on too long, it cuts off the circulation to the cord, and eventually the cord dies. If you can get to the hospital in time, decompression by medicines (such as steroids) which decrease swelling or surgical procedures can save the cord structures from dying, thus avoiding paralysis. However, If there is major tearing or transection of the cord due to major injuries such as displaced or fragmented fractures, and subluxing injury (one vertebra sliding on another creating a scissor action on the cord). In these cases getting to a hospital “on time” will have little or no effect on the outcome of paralysis.

I’ll leave conclusions to you all as to if Murphy should be resuming his career let alone if the Texans should entertain helping him do so. Indeed, this could be more than just a “career decision” for this young man.
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God, I love having a doctor on the board.. Learning while finding out about football.

'Oh Honey, why are you and the sons watching football?

We are not just watching football, woman.. we are learning about medicine.!
 
DocBar said:
I rode bulls and bucking horses for 12 years and have had several "major"(in MY eyes, anyway) injuries. I've had the right side of my head caved in( broken eye socket, jaw(twice), cheekbone, skull, torn sinus), 7 ribs, arm(twice), leg, wrist, 9 knee surgeries on both knees, torn labrum and rotator cuff on R shoulder(won't even get into dislocations of), torn cuff on L, fractured R hip, lacerated kidney, bruised liver, fractured sternum. I'm fairly familiar with injury and rehab. I'm 36 and it is a blessing to sleep all night and get up in the morning. I have arthritis in both knees and right hip and need surgery on both shoulders but the cure is as bad as the problem. I regret a lot of my decisions now.When you're in your early 20's, most people aren't equipped for thinking 20 yrs down the road. I've seen several men killed and more than that who wish they'd died in the arena. The fleeting moments of glory are just that: FLEETING. Wounds heal, chicks dig scars. Paralysis lasts FOREVER. Glory is in the eye of the beholder(see also suicide bombers). I would give everything I won rodeoing to be able to run and play with my son.
There's just so much more to life than the brief amount of glory attained from pro sports to justify the risk of permanent injury. Ask Dagger what it's like for patients to pee thru a catheter or get dressed in the morning, or wipe you *ss or nose when paralyzed. I'd be very disappointed if the Texans sign this young man. I say this in the context of this young man already having a medical condition that leaves hi prone to injury. You can't alk on eggshells throughout life, but one shouldn't unnecessarily tempt the fates, either.
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You forget one thing there grasshopper.. You are there to be a part of his life right now. Even if you cant run or play with him, you are a part of his life and that is cool. Many kids have lost or familys that dont care. So dont sell what you have now short. As you know, and so do I. Being Dad is cool.
 
Dime said:
You forget one thing there grasshopper.. You are there to be a part of his life right now. Even if you cant run or play with him, you are a part of his life and that is cool. Many kids have lost or familys that dont care. So dont sell what you have now short. As you know, and so do I. Being Dad is cool.
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Good post and good points. I feel I'm distracting from the main point. I AM there and I DO play with my son, but not to the extent either of us wish.I can throw a football once. I can throw a baseball 2 or 3 times, I can shoot basketball for 10 minutes. I CAN WALK. This isn't an "Oh poor me" thing. Terrence Murphy stands a GREAT chance of being paralyzed if he plays NFL football and at his age, he isn't fully cognizant of the full impact of that. All he know is that's his ticket to millions. Having SEEN several friends confined to wheelchairs and a few have to blow thru tubes to move, I KNOW how they feel about their injuries and what they would give to have their ARMS, much less legs, back. Is THAT worth a year or five in the NFL? It wasn't in the PRCA or PBR. I know the money is different, but what would you take for YOUR legs?
 
Great thread!!! Appreciate all the insightful posts. Best wishes for making the "right" decision to Mr. Murphy. I trust the kind of people we have running this organization, if they talked to him I'm sure they did their best to guide him in the way that would be best for his future.
 
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