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Morency vs. Henson

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SI quoting NFL.com:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/06/06/truth.rumors.nfl/index.html

"Those who continue to wait for Dallas quarterback Drew Henson to blossom could be waiting a long time. Though Henson received the playing time he needed this spring in the NFL Europe League with the Rhein Fire, Cowboys coach Bill Parcells did not come away impressed with the skills his quarterback demonstrated. With cuts about three months away, it's not too early to put Henson on the bubble."

Trading Henson for a third round pick (became Morency) is looking better, IMO. I hope Morency gets more playing time this year.
 
AFD1717 said:
The Henson deal was one of Casserly's best. We basically got Morency in the sixth round.
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Which is just a little higher than where he deserved to go. Morency is horrible. Its like trading away brusselsprouts for okra...there is no winner.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Its like trading away brusselsprouts for okra...there is no winner.
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I dunno....... but that sounds like a lot of prejudice and bias to me, 'cause I definitely like both.
Not that either one ranks with Artichokes - now there's a vegey of the highest order !
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Which is just a little higher than where he deserved to go. Morency is horrible. Its like trading away brusselsprouts for okra...there is no winner.
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okra is good
 
I was never sold on the idea that Cass was the root of all evil. Assuming Cass was behind this deal, he has made some pretty good steals for the Texans as far as the running back stable goes (Davis and Morency). Morency had good punt returns last year. Maybe he will be returning for the Texans this year.
 
i agree with the veggie analogy guy...both suck...not the veggies...the players
 
nunusguy said:
I dunno....... but that sounds like a lot of prejudice and bias to me, 'cause I definitely like both.
Not that either one ranks with Artichokes - now there's a vegey of the highest order !
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I absolutely hate Artichokes, like Okra (especially fried), and could do without sprouts, but can live with them. Too each his own.
 
I'm not ready to bail on Morency just yet. Was he all I hoped he would be? No, but neither is Travis Johnson and I'm not ready to bail on him either.

Brussel Sprouts and Ocra have had ample time to develop and both need to be cut. Artichokes may make the probowl this year though.
 
AFD1717 said:
No, but neither is Travis Johnson and I'm not ready to bail on him either.
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He'd have been a heck of a 5th rounder....Value wise
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
He'd have been a heck of a 5th rounder....Value wise
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Maybe he won't turn out to be worth that much. We don't know yet.

BTW, I love watching that Earl Campbell clip.
 
I just don't understand this idea of drafting a player for trade bait.

If the Henson deal was a success, then you must factor in the failures to deem if drafting players for trade bait even works. I think Ragone would be a good example. Maybe they were thinking he would be solid backup? How many times did Casserly draft for trade bait and it didn't work? Besides, Morency seems like an okay RB, but time will tell if it was a success.

If someone has some stats on this or someone that was very successful at this trade bait philosohpy, please let me know. I just don't see how you build a successful team focusing a good portion of your time finding talent that you eventually want to trade. Casserly seemed to talk about this concept a lot and was very proud of the Henson deal

This is why I think Casserly was not successful. He seemed more concerned about the paper aspect of the game than the W column.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Which is just a little higher than where he deserved to go. Morency is horrible. Its like trading away brusselsprouts for okra...there is no winner.
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ROFL.... Its sad, but its true:crutch:
 
TheOgre said:
I absolutely hate Artichokes
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That's so hurtful !
Seriously, I like Arts so much, I routinely steam a couple of them and eat them without any seasoning - most people need to use melted butter or mayo.
They have a very bland, very delicate yet very distinctive flavor.
But you have to know how to buy them, know when they are ripe and also
whether or not they will be flavorful. Its all based on their appearance.
You have to be able to recognize the right shade of green (very imporatant), and the shape of the leaves is also critical in recognizing a good artichoke. Most people don't know how to buy them.
 
Never in a million yrs. would i have predicted a post about henson and morency would take such a turn...:francis::stirpot:
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Never in a million yrs. would i have predicted a post about henson and morency would take such a turn...:francis::stirpot:
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You're gonna have to learn to be patient and expect some very irrelavant
digresssions between now and the last week of July when TC will finally begin.
Between now and then, there's just gonna be a lot of dead time.
 
nunusguy said:
You're gonna have to learn to be patient and expect some very irrelavant
digresssions between now and the last week of July when TC will finally begin.
Between now and then, there's just gonna be a lot of dead time.
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Trust me... I know...
 
Other than Marion Barber, who was significantly better than Morency last season that was drafted below him? Im sorry, but theres no way I can be severely negative or say they are worthless after 1 YEAR. Give him time because considering the how horrible we were last year, it was difficult for anyone to shine . . .
 
LORK 88 said:
Other than Marion Barber, who was significantly better than Morency last season that was drafted below him? Im sorry, but theres no way I can be severely negative or say they are worthless after 1 YEAR. Give him time because considering the how horrible we were last year, it was difficult for anyone to shine . . .
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That run against the Cardinals was pretty fun to watch. Showed great potential, and never got any significant playing time all season.
 
LORK 88 said:
Other than Marion Barber, who was significantly better than Morency last season that was drafted below him? Im sorry, but theres no way I can be severely negative or say they are worthless after 1 YEAR. Give him time because considering the how horrible we were last year, it was difficult for anyone to shine . . .
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Obviously you don't see the coolness factor of labeling someone a bust based on very limited data over a short time frame.
 
rafterticket said:
That run against the Cardinals was pretty fun to watch. Showed great potential, and never got any significant playing time all season.
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Wasn't that the play where he hot dogged it on the way into the EZ, sticking the ball right in the face of the last Cardinal DB right before scoring ?
As I recall, that maybe was a contributing factor to him riding the bench
most of the time thereafter.
 
nunusguy said:
They have a very bland, very delicate yet very distinctive flavor.
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My family loved them when I was growing up and and they would drench them in butter (give my brothers something covered in cheese and/or butter and they are set). I just never liked that "distinctive flavor".

Keep in mind that I eat sushi, escargo, and oysters (raw and otherwise), so I am open to various tastes...the artichoke is just not one of them.
 
nunusguy said:
Wasn't that the play where he hot dogged it on the way into the EZ, sticking the ball right in the face of the last Cardinal DB right before scoring ?
As I recall, that maybe was a contributing factor to him riding the bench
most of the time thereafter.
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Yeah, but it was a great run.....
 
I'm a pretty big Morency fan and think he will be very productive. Trade looks great to me.
 
Vinny said:
I'm a pretty big Morency fan and think he will be very productive. Trade looks great to me.
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Your right, it was a great trade Vinny, but it was a horrible selection. Morency had no ceiling and still doesn't have one. He is a career 3rd stringer at best. But maybe I'm just against him :confused:
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Your right, it was a great trade Vinny, but it was a horrible selection. Morency had no ceiling and still doesn't have one. He is a career 3rd stringer at best. But maybe I'm just against him :confused:
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I find your assessment of his ability poor, but to each their own.
 
Morency did very well at Oklahoma State. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he is a good side-to-side runner, and if that can be refined to cut back against the line, he could work really well in Kubiak's Denver system.

Interestingly enough, he is another Miami connection since he went to HS there and lives there, still.

I just pulled this from ESPN.com. Interesting considering how many people want to burn him at the stake already.

"The team that drafts him will have to be patient in developing him and will assume a risk with an older prospect."

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft...o.com/nfldraft/draft05/tracker/player?id=9080
 
Kubiak wants a one cut back. Morency is not that. He has some solid potential, but is it in this system?
 
oso said:
Morency did very well at Oklahoma State. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he is a good side-to-side runner, and if that can be refined to cut back against the line, he could work really well in Kubiak's Denver system.

Interestingly enough, he is another Miami connection since he went to HS there and lives there, still.

I just pulled this from ESPN.com. Interesting considering how many people want to burn him at the stake already.

"The team that drafts him will have to be patient in developing him and will assume a risk with an older prospect."

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft...o.com/nfldraft/draft05/tracker/player?id=9080
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yeah, he tried and failed at one sport already, going on two now. Doesn't help when you starting trying at age 26.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
yeah, he tried and failed at one sport already, going on two now. Doesn't help when you starting trying at age 26.
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Is your father named Bobo? You seem intentionally disagreeable.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
yeah, he tried and failed at one sport already, going on two now. Doesn't help when you starting trying at age 26.
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You people are ruthless... Give a guy a shot before you flush him down the tubes. Morency and Johnson have had what, ONE YEAR to go from college to the pros. So the general feeling is if you can't make the jump in one season, you were a wasted pick?????

Lighten up, you'll live longer :)
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Your right, it was a great trade Vinny, but it was a horrible selection. Morency had no ceiling and still doesn't have one. He is a career 3rd stringer at best. But maybe I'm just against him :confused:
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You? Against Morency, NO!! Kidding, while you may be criticizing the pick as of now, look at who else was taken in the 3rd round. The only person I see that is worthy of that pick that was drafted after VM is Kirk Morrison although we had our LB positions pretty much "solidified" (or so we thought) with Peek, Babin, Greenwood, and Wong. It may pay off to be a smart move too if VM can pick up Kubiak's system and be a good #2 for us.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2005#round3
 
LORK 88 said:
You? Against Morency, NO!! Kidding, while you may be criticizing the pick as of now, look at who else was taken in the 3rd round. The only person I see that is worthy of that pick that was drafted after VM is Kirk Morrison although we had our LB positions pretty much "solidified" (or so we thought) with Peek, Babin, Greenwood, and Wong. It may pay off to be a smart move too if VM can pick up Kubiak's system and be a good #2 for us.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2005#round3
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Ryan Moats did well for the Eagles...
 
Moats was less than 100 yards better than Morency, and while he did look good at times (as VM did too), it wouldnt be right to say that he wouldve been the better choice, especially after only 1 year.
 
LORK 88 said:
Moats was less than 100 yards better than Morency, and while he did look good at times (as VM did too), it wouldnt be right to say that he wouldve been the better choice, especially after only 1 year.
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Thats true...but isn't morency like 25 or 26...factor in his age and moats was probably the better pick...but who knows...
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Thats true...but isn't morency like 25 or 26...factor in his age and moats was probably the better pick...but who knows...
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When you look at a back you really only need to project 3-4 years and Morency just doesn't have that much wear and tear on him so I'd figure that his age is really a moot point. His body isn't going to give out any time soon.
 
Thats true...especially being a reserve and all...and besides I don't think the morency pick will make or break us as a franchise...
 
Vinny said:
When you look at a back you really only need to project 3-4 years and Morency just doesn't have that much wear and tear on him so I'd figure that his age is really a moot point. His body isn't going to give out any time soon.
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Exactly, good point. Moats turns 24 in December, Morency is 26 til next January, not a big difference.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Which is just a little higher than where he deserved to go. Morency is horrible. Its like trading away brusselsprouts for okra...there is no winner.
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I also enjoy both. . . Try the brusselsprouts with meted cheese...mmmmmmm
 
Algebrat said:
You people are ruthless... Give a guy a shot before you flush him down the tubes. Morency and Johnson have had what, ONE YEAR to go from college to the pros. So the general feeling is if you can't make the jump in one season, you were a wasted pick?????

Lighten up, you'll live longer :)
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I like TJ, I am willing to give time to prospect if I feel they have a chance in the league. I was mad when we drafted VM, and now, I'm still just as mad.
 
rafterticket said:
Is your father named Bobo? You seem intentionally disagreeable.
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No, I have nothing to do with bobo, and I'm just going to assume that if you have been on this board since before the rosebowl, you would at least know a little more about me. There are two players on the Texans who I have a strong, passionate dislike for. Those two scrubs are Morency and Faggins. My opinion about them has not changed ever, it probally will not change. There are people everyone doesn't like, but these are my two. Accept it or put me on your ignore list, it makes no difference to me.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Thats true...but isn't morency like 25 or 26...factor in his age and moats was probably the better pick...but who knows...
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In retrospect, Moats is the younger and more effective back, but Morency is still good. He is 26 already in his second year because he played some baseball for the minor league Colorado Rockies (I think). Correct me if I'm wrong.

Moats>Morency>Henson

We got a great deal out of the Henson trade still. When you trade an unproven 6th round pick with no playing time for a 3rd round pick you always will win.
 
A terrific trade by Cass and I still believe that Morency will take over the starting RB position halfway thorugh the season by earning it, not through injury.

I have not seen any practices this year and still have concerns of him adjusting to the ZA scheme but just feel that our biggest surprise this year will be the emergence of Morency.
 
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