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Rb Swap! D.davis For Bennett And Future 2nd Rounder

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I have a good friend, John Morton, an offensive assistant for New Orleans Saints, and he told me that the rumors of us trading for Michael Bennett are true!

He said we are looking to ship Dominick Davis to the Saints for Michael Bennett and a 2007 2nd round pick.

I don't like what I am hearing!:francis:
 
Why would the Saints send Bennett and a high draft pick away for Domanick Davis just to sit him behind Bush and McAllister? That doesn't make any sense at all, although I would definitely consider that deal if it were offered. I would think the Saints would be looking to acquire a player at a position of greater need.
 
thats exactly why i didnt believe it

i'm just relaying the information




i think that something is happening in the saints organization (trade)
 
Would definately tick some people off around here. I'm not sure how I feel about that trade yet. DD has been good to us, but we have a lot of depth at the RB position. And a second rounder is pretty nice. That's a tough call.
 
doesn't make sense, but ill do d.davis for a 2nd rounder right now!! remember corey dillion was acquired for a 2nd rounder. So this would be a steal in my opinion.
 
are you out of your mind??????? hell no should we give up dominick davis, as good as a 2nd round pick may sound DD has done too much for the texans to be shipped out to a team that he won't even start a game in. Bennet is more of a injury prone than DD

have you all forgotten what DD has done while he was here, just think what he could do with a IMPROVE oline, im loyal to DD, and i hope he finishes his career here
 
Hell no! I don't believe that crap.

Thanks for the info, but the Texans are getting raped if they do that deal. DD is the only solid back on this team that can run with Carr in Kubiak's offense.

So NO would end up having DD, Bush, and Mcallister? Casserly must of pushed this offer before the door knocked him in the ass!

People, seriously.....you want Bennett to be your starting RB? With Morency, Lundy, and Smith backing him up?

I don't think so.
 
One of the biggest reasons it has been said that we passed on Reggie was because "We already have a good RB: Domanick Davis." Why would we send him off for someone else? Also, the only reason the Saints want to move Bennent is because they dont want another Back....I'm not buying it.:pigfly:
 
Complete nonsense...

First off, since a lot of the top talent that would have come out next year came out THIS YEAR, that second round pick may not be worth all that much.

Second off, why would they trade for DD, of all people? So that they can have a $150 million dollar backfield?!?! That makes no sense.

This is ridiculous. A HORRIBLE trade for BOTH teams involved.
 
Just to add to the speculation, what if the Saints have real problems signing Bush? (if he's not already signed, I'm not 100%).
This move, or just the rumor of it, would possibly get Bush in line.. OR.. if it IS true, it could signal a Bush-trade.

Not saying any of this is true, but hey, I'm allowed to speculate! :)
 
Could be DD's injury will shorten his career, this right after signing a large contract. Might be best to dump his salary while he still has trade value. I think Lundy will pass Morency on the debth chart. DD didnt have break away speed before the knee injury, he will be even slower now. Also, Kubiak doesnt think shifty backs fit his scheme. There will be plenty of young stud RB's coming out next year. Peterson out of OU? Good RB's come out every year. You will not see many 6'-7"/4.68 fyd/40.5" VL/ DE's coming out. Keep in mnd Kubiac's offense doesnt need a 1st round RB. 2nd round will be fine. I like the trade. DD will never earn his 5yr contract.
 
Maybe McAllister(sp?) is on the way out? Can the Saints afford that?
Maybe DD's injury is more severe that we know?
I believe Lundy is our RB of the future, hasn't Kubiak been following him since he was a kid?
 
MightyTExan said:
Maybe McAllister(sp?) is on the way out? Can the Saints afford that?
Maybe DD's injury is more severe that we know?
I believe Lundy is our RB of the future, hasn't Kubiak been following him since he was a kid?
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Kubiak just said that DD should be on the field starting next weeks mini camp.

Texans | Kubiak optimistic D. Davis will return to action soon
Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:57:35 -0700

Carmine Pirone, of HoustonTexans.com, reports Houston Texans head coach Gary Kubiak is optimistic RB Domanick Davis (knee) will return to action soon. Kubiak said, "I'm hoping Domanick does something next week. We're actually just going to do a walk-through on Monday and Tuesday, and I hope he's going to be a part of that. I would actually like to see him get a few reps before we call it a summer, so I'm hoping everything will work out."
 
First pass on Bush, then second trade away your starting RB?? That makes no sense at all. I understand Kubiak can get great production out of lesser known backs, but that would be going a little too far IMO.
 
IT IS NOT TRUE GUYS GET YOUR PANTIES OUT OF A WAD. This obviously was posted to get peoples blood pumping(it worked for sure). This was reported by a friend of a friend or something. There is not even a link.
 
bigbrewster2000 said:
IT IS NOT TRUE GUYS GET YOUR PANTIES OUT OF A WAD. This obviously was posted to get peoples blood pumping(it worked for sure). This was reported by a friend of a friend or something. There is not even a link.
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Agreed, this trade doesn't make sense for either team, although if we were offered Bennett and a 2nd for Domanick Davis I'd likely do it, more for the pick (will probably be in the 33-37 range of the 2007 draft) than for Bennett. Davis has done pretty well for us, but I think Morency is the same type of RB and has the potential to be as good or better, especially in Kubiak's system, plus he doesn't have the injury history od Domanick, though he is already a year older. Bennett would at least bring us a different type of RB and give us that Tatum Bell-type type speed back, so we'd be exchanging for a RB with similar overall talent (albeit a different style) and adding a high 2nd round pick.

That said, I can't see the Saints making that trade, maybe for a defensive player like Morlon Greenwood, but then I don't know if I see the Texans making that trade either. While we just got DeMeco Ryans and I think he can easily be as good and likely better than Greenwood and we have decent depth at LB, I don't know how aggressively they're really looking to add another RB.
 
Stranger things have happened!
Who would have thought we would have 30+ new faces in camp this season?

I dont believe this rummor but nothing will shock me considering what Kubiak has done so far.
 
I would take the dea. And here's why:

1.) We are using Kubiak's blocking scheme from Denver. Denver was able to plug in 3 different running backs and be successful, while all were average.

2.) Michael Bennett would be perfect for our system. I think if this trade goes through he will be very productive. Sure, he's not going to be the recieving threat DD was out of the backfield, but we've already surrounded Carr with plenty of weapons.

3.) We could get a great player next year with that 2nd round pick. We can fill a need such as CB or S. With a minor downgrade if anything at RB, and we get a good player next year, this trade looks like a good one for us.

I still have no idea why the Saints would want DD though. Maybe they are shopping McAllister? Still, though, this trade doesn't make much sense. I thought they were trying to get rid of a RB, not get another good one.
 
MorKnolle said:
Agreed, this trade doesn't make sense for either team, although if we were offered Bennett and a 2nd for Domanick Davis I'd likely do it...
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Which is why I'm glad fans can't make trades.
 
The Mississiippi Sun-Herald reports the following this morming:

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In other trade gossip, Michael Bennett, at least Friday, appears to be staying with the Saints. The squad signed the former Minnesota Vikings back before it drafted Bush.

Numerous reports had the Saints attempting to deal the injury-prone tailback with the Houston Texans, the team that passed on Bush, at the forefront.

"He's with us 100 percent," Payton [N.O. coach] said. "We're going full-speed ahead."
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The Mississiippi Sun-Herald reports the following this morming:

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In other trade gossip, Michael Bennett, at least Friday, appears to be staying with the Saints. The squad signed the former Minnesota Vikings back before it drafted Bush.

Numerous reports had the Saints attempting to deal the injury-prone tailback with the Houston Texans, the team that passed on Bush, at the forefront.

"He's with us 100 percent," Payton [N.O. coach] said. "We're going full-speed ahead."
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That's good news.
 
texanfan2002114 said:
Kubiak just said that DD should be on the field starting next weeks mini camp.

Texans | Kubiak optimistic D. Davis will return to action soon
Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:57:35 -0700

Carmine Pirone, of HoustonTexans.com, reports Houston Texans head coach Gary Kubiak is optimistic RB Domanick Davis (knee) will return to action soon. Kubiak said, "I'm hoping Domanick does something next week. We're actually just going to do a walk-through on Monday and Tuesday, and I hope he's going to be a part of that. I would actually like to see him get a few reps before we call it a summer, so I'm hoping everything will work out."
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If they are not even sure he will be going through walk throughs yet, I have a feeling his knee is messed up more than any of us know. It has been almost 6 months since he had his knee scoped and he is still not really doing anything. Usually after a knee scope they start you on excersises and walking the next day depending on how bad the damage is and what was done to the knee exactly. Kubiak is saying he is HOPING Davis gets some reps in before they call it a summer. I understand being cautious and everything, but this just seems to me to be way too cautious. Makes me wonder if the coaching staff has concerns about Davis' knee or his durability, especially after signing Smith, drafting Lundy, rumored to be going after Bennett, all the while still having Davis, Morency, and other RB's on the roster...
 
Texans34Life said:
Hell no! I don't believe that crap.

Thanks for the info, but the Texans are getting raped if they do that deal. DD is the only solid back on this team that can run with Carr in Kubiak's offense.



So NO would end up having DD, Bush, and Mcallister? Casserly must of pushed this offer before the door knocked him in the ass!

People, seriously.....you want Bennett to be your starting RB? With Morency, Lundy, and Smith backing him up?

I don't think so.
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I realize this is just a pet peeve of mine, but can we please not use that word? its too ugly, too serious, and really offensive to people have experienced serious trauma to throw it around casually.
 
Texans86 said:
Would definately tick some people off around here. I'm not sure how I feel about that trade yet. DD has been good to us, but we have a lot of depth at the RB position. And a second rounder is pretty nice. That's a tough call.
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The Texans have no depth at RB. They have a lot of bodies, but no depth.
 
DominickDavisFan76 said:
I say we just give NO, a second round, and maybe like a 4th round or something...........o ya and some CASH.:twocents:
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A second and fourth round pick for Bennett....we can get some good players with those picks. :hunter:
 
Malloy said:
Just to add to the speculation, what if the Saints have real problems signing Bush? (if he's not already signed, I'm not 100%).
This move, or just the rumor of it, would possibly get Bush in line.. OR.. if it IS true, it could signal a Bush-trade.

Not saying any of this is true, but hey, I'm allowed to speculate! :)
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If they were having problems with Bush - they would keep Bennett. They only signed a couple of months ago so they must have thought he could do a job for them
 
swtbound07 said:
I realize this is just a pet peeve of mine, but can we please not use that word? its too ugly, too serious, and really offensive to people have experienced serious trauma to throw it around casually.
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I realize political correctness runs rampant these days, but that still doesn't make it correct to redefine words to what we find offensive. Rape has three definitions in Websters, look'em up, his use of the word in this context was correct and appropriate :)
 
texan279 said:
If they are not even sure he will be going through walk throughs yet, I have a feeling his knee is messed up more than any of us know. It has been almost 6 months since he had his knee scoped and he is still not really doing anything. Usually after a knee scope they start you on excersises and walking the next day depending on how bad the damage is and what was done to the knee exactly. Kubiak is saying he is HOPING Davis gets some reps in before they call it a summer. I understand being cautious and everything, but this just seems to me to be way too cautious. Makes me wonder if the coaching staff has concerns about Davis' knee or his durability, especially after signing Smith, drafting Lundy, rumored to be going after Bennett, all the while still having Davis, Morency, and other RB's on the roster...
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And if this is true, do you think they would advertise it? They wouldnt get squat for him.
 
TexanFan881 said:
I would take the dea. And here's why:

1.) We are using Kubiak's blocking scheme from Denver. Denver was able to plug in 3 different running backs and be successful, while all were average.

2.) Michael Bennett would be perfect for our system. I think if this trade goes through he will be very productive. Sure, he's not going to be the recieving threat DD was out of the backfield, but we've already surrounded Carr with plenty of weapons.

3.) We could get a great player next year with that 2nd round pick. We can fill a need such as CB or S. With a minor downgrade if anything at RB, and we get a good player next year, this trade looks like a good one for us.

I still have no idea why the Saints would want DD though. Maybe they are shopping McAllister? Still, though, this trade doesn't make much sense. I thought they were trying to get rid of a RB, not get another good one.
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1. Agree somewhat, Kubiak's system has a tendency to make decent RBs look very good, so if we can trade one pretty good, injury-plagued RB for another pretty good, injury-plagued RB that is at least a different type of RB than one we already have, and get a 2nd round pick in the process I'd definitely think hard about it.

2. I don't know how great he'd be for us, I certainly think that he could be very effective, but at the same time I don't think he'll put up amazing numbers or anything because I Don't think they'd give him the ball any more than 12 times a game. He doesn't have hands like Domanick, but at the same time the Broncos historically have not thrown the ball to their RBs a whole lot so I'm not sure how much of an issue that is.

3. Agreed. I also have no idea why the Saints would make this trade and I question the validity of this claim, but if the Saints did indeed make this offer I'd definitely consider it. I would think they would be looking for another LB since they are somewhat weak there and were rumored to really like A.J. Hawk going into the draft, and I'd probably give up Morlon Greenwood for a 2nd and Michael Bennett if they wanted that.

texan279 said:
If they are not even sure he will be going through walk throughs yet, I have a feeling his knee is messed up more than any of us know. It has been almost 6 months since he had his knee scoped and he is still not really doing anything. Usually after a knee scope they start you on excersises and walking the next day depending on how bad the damage is and what was done to the knee exactly. Kubiak is saying he is HOPING Davis gets some reps in before they call it a summer. I understand being cautious and everything, but this just seems to me to be way too cautious. Makes me wonder if the coaching staff has concerns about Davis' knee or his durability, especially after signing Smith, drafting Lundy, rumored to be going after Bennett, all the while still having Davis, Morency, and other RB's on the roster...
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Agreed, I think he either has some serious problem with his knee or he's just very weak mentally and can't/won't play thru any pain, and you are right thtat the team definitely would not advertise such concerns if they're looking to move him, however I think that when a team does a physical on him they will discover the problem if there is still one. I have heard that many people in the Texans organization have concerns over Davis' knee and durability and aren't really counting on his career lasting much longer.
 
We don't have the money to do it.............

BUT, wouldn't it be cool if we traded DD and next year's 2nd rounder for Bush?

That'd send ESPN into a tailspin. :bananasplit:
 
If we did a trade with N.O. I would rather they did a trade for the safety they got from the Bucs for one of our LB's I think that would be a better trade. Both teams fill a need and move players to be in better positions to succeed. I just can't see them swapping RB's.
 
Let me remove the talk from actual news...

Some people insist DD knees is more srewed up the the Texans say it is, but there is any proof?

The Saints say Bennit will be with the team, and the rumors suggest the team might have tried to dump Greenwood but nothing appears to be currently in the works.

Was there any solid sources behind the DD trade talk, or just fan talk?
 
cj5776 said:
Was there any solid sources behind the DD trade talk, or just fan talk?
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And speculation based off of reporters who may or may not be speculating themselves for the sake of keeping their jobs.:hides:
 
Brandon420tx said:
And speculation based off of reporters who may or may not be speculating themselves for the sake of keeping their jobs.:hides:
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So the rumors might have been started by reporters but they are not as solid as the Greenwood ones, correct?
 
Sooo, basically we have been speculating about someone elses speculations regarding a rumor. Sounds solid to me, probably happen by the end of the day.
 
At least now we can all admit we have problems, now we can set up meetings and give group hugs.:grouphug: and then tell each other, "I love you" ... wait, I'd rather be hoodwinked by the media then join a cult... maybe ...
 
texan279 said:
If they are not even sure he will be going through walk throughs yet, I have a feeling his knee is messed up more than any of us know. It has been almost 6 months since he had his knee scoped and he is still not really doing anything. Usually after a knee scope they start you on excersises and walking the next day depending on how bad the damage is and what was done to the knee exactly. Kubiak is saying he is HOPING Davis gets some reps in before they call it a summer. I understand being cautious and everything, but this just seems to me to be way too cautious. Makes me wonder if the coaching staff has concerns about Davis' knee or his durability, especially after signing Smith, drafting Lundy, rumored to be going after Bennett, all the while still having Davis, Morency, and other RB's on the roster...
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I have been saying it for 2 months now, I heard his knee is not good.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
We don't have the money to do it.............

BUT, wouldn't it be cool if we traded DD and next year's 2nd rounder for Bush?

That'd send ESPN into a tailspin. :bananasplit:
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Yea that would be cheap as well..........:sarcasm:
 
I doubt it would happen and I wouldnt want to see the trade, what has DD done to deserve it, if we were to trade him, he at leasts deserves to be traded to a team that will give him alot of time. I'd trade him for Tomlinson :D
 
Samer said:
I doubt it would happen and I wouldnt want to see the trade, what has DD done to deserve it, if we were to trade him, he at leasts deserves to be traded to a team that will give him alot of time. I'd trade him for Tomlinson :D
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yeah i totally agree if for some strange reason we decide to trade him, it should be a team that he'll start for, but mind you i don't ever want to see DD leave this team, he's given it everything since hes been here
 
wicked_wayz said:
yeah i totally agree if for some strange reason we decide to trade him, it should be a team that he'll start for, but mind you i don't ever want to see DD leave this team, he's given it everything since hes been here
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Unfortunately the NFL doesn't always work like that and if the Texans decide to trade him it will be for the best offer they can receive, not what is the best situation for Domanick, especially with a new staff that doesn't really care how a player has performed/worked in the past anywhere near as much as how they think they will perform in the future. That said, I don't see this trade happening, I don't see why the Saints would make this trade unless they plan to move Deuce McAllister too, which I don't see happening.
 
You can't be serious right? So the Saints trade Bennett, who won't see playing time behind Deuce and Bush, for Davis (who also will not see playing time) and also give up a 2nd rounder? Come on now, get real. If you are going to make up something at least try to make it believable.
 
wicked_wayz said:
yeah i totally agree if for some strange reason we decide to trade him, it should be a team that he'll start for, but mind you i don't ever want to see DD leave this team, he's given it everything since hes been here
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A fourth rounder turned into a second rounder, plus a player, plus past production. It really is hard to look at this mythilogical deal negatively for the team. Especially with questions on his health.
 
This is a great trade for the Texans, but too bad it doesn't make any sense. Why would the saints want DD when they have Bush and Mcalister.

Im guessing this deal happens when :pigfly:
 
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