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Hmmm, now I'm scratching my head....

David's Busted Carr

David's Busted Carr

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OK, I finally came to terms and appreciate the drafting of Mario Williams about a week after the draft. However with the recent developments in the recent practices I'm a little bit puzzled.

1) Why did we pay Anthony Weaver DE money if we are just going to use him as another DT? We already have Robaire Smith, Travis Johnson, & Seth Payne. And indications are Mario will be at one end and Peek/Babin at the other. I think we would have been fine with Weaver at one end and Peek/Babin at the other.

2) It sounds like DD's injury is more serious than initially reported. Kubiak does not like Morency and feels he doesn't fit our system. So now we are scrambling to find some scrubs like Antowain Smith & Micheal Bennett to pick up the slack? This makes passing on Reggie Bush even more questionable.


Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not bashing the decisions that have been made, but with these developments it really makes me wonder if the Texans really picked Mario "because he was the best fit for the team" or if there was some other factor (signability) that was the main reason.

It seems to me they were gearing up to draft Reggie with their other FA signings and are now having to do a complete 180 after picking Mario.

If they knew they were going to stick with DD, why didn't they sign Bennett early in free agency? Because they thought they would have Reggie? Now we are going to have to give up a draft pick if we want him.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm????
 
I agree with you on the Smith situation...but as of right now you have to assume this is all just Kubiak trying to see if people fit into certain situations. The important thing is that we have lots of depth on our line and can actually discuss who is a better starter rather than say 'crap...we're stuck with this guy again'.

Reggie Bush didn't fit into our system anymore than Morency does right now. Like Kubiak said...we want a one-cut and downhill running system, everyone knows that's not Bush's style. I think Kubiak would have had a cow if we had Bush out there every week spinning and juking defenders (even if it works), it's just not his style of football.
 
David's Busted Carr said:
OK, I finally came to terms and appreciate the drafting of Mario Williams about a week after the draft. However with the recent developments in the recent practices I'm a little bit puzzled.

1) Why did we pay Anthony Weaver DE money if we are just going to use him as another DT? We already have Robaire Smith, Travis Johnson, & Seth Payne. And indications are Mario will be at one end and Peek/Babin at the other. I think we would have been fine with Weaver at one end and Peek/Babin at the other.

2) It sounds like DD's injury is more serious than initially reported. Kubiak does not like Morency and feels he doesn't fit our system. So now we are scrambling to find some scrubs like Antowain Smith & Micheal Bennett to pick up the slack? This makes passing on Reggie Bush even more questionable.


Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not bashing the decisions that have been made, but with these developments it really makes me wonder if the Texans really picked Mario "because he was the best fit for the team" or if there was some other factor (signability) that was the main reason.

It seems to me they were gearing up to draft Reggie with their other FA signings and are now having to do a complete 180 after picking Mario.

If they knew they were going to stick with DD, why didn't they sign Bennett early in free agency? Because they thought they would have Reggie? Now we are going to have to give up a draft pick if we want him.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm????
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HMMMMMMMMMMMM?????
 
David's Busted Carr said:
OK, I finally came to terms and appreciate the drafting of Mario Williams about a week after the draft. However with the recent developments in the recent practices I'm a little bit puzzled.

1) Why did we pay Anthony Weaver DE money if we are just going to use him as another DT? We already have Robaire Smith, Travis Johnson, & Seth Payne. And indications are Mario will be at one end and Peek/Babin at the other. I think we would have been fine with Weaver at one end and Peek/Babin at the other.

2) It sounds like DD's injury is more serious than initially reported. Kubiak does not like Morency and feels he doesn't fit our system. So now we are scrambling to find some scrubs like Antowain Smith & Micheal Bennett to pick up the slack? This makes passing on Reggie Bush even more questionable.


Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not bashing the decisions that have been made, but with these developments it really makes me wonder if the Texans really picked Mario "because he was the best fit for the team" or if there was some other factor (signability) that was the main reason.

It seems to me they were gearing up to draft Reggie with their other FA signings and are now having to do a complete 180 after picking Mario.

If they knew they were going to stick with DD, why didn't they sign Bennett early in free agency? Because they thought they would have Reggie? Now we are going to have to give up a draft pick if we want him.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm????
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Calm down it is not the end of the world, things like this pop up all the time. If you had reggie right now he would be on the bench anyway.

1. They (kube) has already established that Mario will end up playing all 4 positions on the front line, which also means you will have the other guys switching around also, As a new coach, sometimes you have to mix things up to see how each player(s) compliment each other. not to mention you are forgetting that you will now have fresh players more throughout the game when you need to dig down deep and pin those ears back and go all out on that opposing offensive line (who, mind you, does not have the opportunity to switch for fresh players).

2. Michael Bennett is no slouch of a RB. I know first had seeing him in Minnesota, and smith did well when Duece was out with injury as well. Don't let the wheels fall off just yet. Maybe a little alingment is needed, but this team is still 10 times better than last year or the year before.

DEFENSE WINS SUPERBOWLS.... Do the research!!! Heck, if the Ravens can win a Superbowl why not the Texans... DEFENSE DEFENSE!!! Make some noise!!!
 
TheCD said:
I agree with you on the Smith situation...but as of right now you have to assume this is all just Kubiak trying to see if people fit into certain situations. The important thing is that we have lots of depth on our line and can actually discuss who is a better starter rather than say 'crap...we're stuck with this guy again'.

Reggie Bush didn't fit into our system anymore than Morency does right now. Like Kubiak said...we want a one-cut and downhill running system, everyone knows that's not Bush's style. I think Kubiak would have had a cow if we had Bush out there every week spinning and juking defenders (even if it works), it's just not his style of football.
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Agree with depth, I know you cannot forget the 120 degrees down on the field. that takes a toll and when you can bring in fresh bodies to go against an offense that cannot take a break... ADVANTAGE TEXANS!!! GO DEFENSE
 
I think, for the first time in our short history, we have possibly achieved a concept called "depth".

I know, I know, it's a weird feeling, and one that we Texans fans might not trust. But I think Coach Kubiak understands the importance of a strong D-line, and we need players that can both rotate positions, as well as come off the bench to keep everyone fresh. Defensive gameplans depend on it.

With regards to DD and not drafting Bush; Signability could easily have been a factor, due to the fact that a player is NOT learning a system and is NOT on the same page as everyone else while he's in hold-out mode. And who knows how long these things can last, as we've seen players refuse to sign through training camp and even into regular season. That can't be good, or even a chance to be considered, for a new coach that wants to hit the ground running as he leads his new team into his first season with them.

In addition, Coach Kubiak comes from a very successful system that proves that mid-round RBs can be very successful under the right circumstances (mainly an o-line that can consistenly create holes). So perhaps he wasn't as bamboozled by the hype as much as the rest of us, because he feels confident that backs are easier to come by than dominant defensive ends. Just food for thought.
 
I don't think you have come to terms or appreciate the drafting of Mario Williams, Yet! Keep the faith in time I think you really will.
 
I think your post is a valid one & the answear is that this process has been very fluid & changing as all the angles are discussed. VY was not out of the question up until two weeks before the draft, no blockbuster trades offered, not to mention the Texans where very impressed with Marios visit.

Signablity was a factor, thats straight from the owner Bob McNair. Kubiak made the choice to go defensive & a sound one given the changes (4-3) along with aquistion's Weaver/Cowart (not long term solutions). I can see already why they love Mario, he is a team player & fits in the scheme they want to run perfectly :)
 
David's Busted Carr said:
2) It sounds like DD's injury is more serious than initially reported. Kubiak does not like Morency and feels he doesn't fit our system. So now we are scrambling to find some scrubs like Antowain Smith & Micheal Bennett to pick up the slack? This makes passing on Reggie Bush even more questionable.
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I guess the Kubiak team really believes that, for the Texans:

(Mario + any available back) > Reggie Bush
 
I agree with the person who stated we have finally come across the concept of depth for the first time in our history. Also, you have to understand either Peek or Babin will not be here next year. For right now during OTA's you see what kind of impact you could have with Weaver playing DT, mix that with the fact that we may be utilizing some 3-4 still due to the type of players we have and then think of how Weaver can always go back to DE and you have depth once more.

As for not signing Bennett before the draft, please remember that initially we wanted to get a trade deal for our pick and we needed to not get other RBs since we needed to build smoke screens to help get that pick traded. Just never happened.
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
You guys have enough to worry about on your own side of town!!!
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Yea you may be right, but I dont have to tie up all my time worrying. Simply because........Well never mind then I'll be labeled a troll just for defending myself.

Make all the snide comments you like, but remind me again how many times you guys beat us?:brickwall
 
This isn't a big deal and several people have posted why.

Injuries happen and the good teams overcome them.

Also, talent on a team doesn't fit like a jigsaw puzzle, but it seems clear to me this coaching staff is building a team from a plan and filling it out with talent according to the plan. Which is probably the best approach.

Nothing works perfectly in life, especially in football.

We are going to be all right, besides this is going to several years to get cooking anyway.
 
(1) I don't think we are "scrambling for scrubs" because Kubiak expects to have to replace Davis halfway through the season again. I think he is simply a coach who (weird thought, I know) seeks depth.

(2) Where did you get that Kubiak "doesn't like" Morency? Haven't heard one way or the other on that.

(3) Mario will mostly play the DE. Weaver is of the physique/game to work either at DE or DT, but expect him to change in and out with Peek and possibly Babin at DE. In re to giving Weaver DE money, it is precisely because he is a solid player at both positions and that gives us flexibility and again depth.

(4) My Texans sources tell me that Mario was and remains a football decision and that "signability" had nothing to do with it. Again, don't remember if it's been published or not, but the fact is Mario was paid more than the Texans last standing offer to Reggie Bush. It wasn't about the money in any event, and either Kubiak thought that Reggie's game was overvalued, or more likely, figured that he could utilize Davis and someone else just as effectively for his offense's purposes. Which, again, given Kubiak's rather storied success with "plug-n-play RBs" ... I would say is a valid theory.

(5) Also, on draft day ... the Texans had every intention of trading back up into the first with Chicago and grabbing either Maroney or DeAngelo, and all preliminary indications were that they would be able to do so ... and Buffalo swooped in at the last minute and outbid us. That was the FO's plan and since that fell through, they have since merely taken their time to test the market. Apparently NO wants too much for Bennett, and that is why he has not been picked up yet.

(6) It has been said by some of the talking heads (and I agree) that all-world defensive end talent is harder to come by than all-world RB talent. Mario Williams is every bit the exceptional athlete that Reggie Bush is ... and that kind of position-changing athleticism frankly is much harder to come by at the DE spot. Esp. in light of our pretty-good running game versus our sorely lacking defense (again, all been discussed many times on this board) I think it is easy to view Mario as a football decision and the right call.
 
colts18288 said:
Yea you may be right, but I dont have to tie up all my time worrying. Simply because........Well never mind then I'll be labeled a troll just for defending myself.

Make all the snide comments you like, but remind me again how many times you guys beat us?:brickwall
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Sweet heavens, a Colts fan? Who let you and your blasphemous graphics on this board? :)

Tell me Colts fan, how do you feel about releasing Edgerrin James? Good move or no?
 
David's Busted Carr said:
OK, I finally came to terms and appreciate the drafting of Mario Williams about a week after the draft. However with the recent developments in the recent practices I'm a little bit puzzled.

1) Why did we pay Anthony Weaver DE money if we are just going to use him as another DT? We already have Robaire Smith, Travis Johnson, & Seth Payne. And indications are Mario will be at one end and Peek/Babin at the other. I think we would have been fine with Weaver at one end and Peek/Babin at the other.
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I believe Weaver was one of our first FA signings....... if not the first. Kubiak told Casserly he wants this guy. He plays DE in a 3-4... that makes him a Tackle in a 4-3.... more or less..... you don't see us even thinking about sliding our DEs over?? no, we're moving our OLBs to DE, and our DEs to tackle. I think Casserly/Ferens went about business as usual, negotiated & signed Weaver like they've been signing people in the past. Goofy contracts, trying to "lure" players to play in Houston. There is no doubt in my mind, that Kubiak ripped Ferens/Casserly a new Ahole when he learned of the contract details..... Even as a DE, Kubiak wasn't planning on paying him that kinda money.
David's Busted Carr said:
2) It sounds like DD's injury is more serious than initially reported. Kubiak does not like Morency and feels he doesn't fit our system. So now we are scrambling to find some scrubs like Antowain Smith & Micheal Bennett to pick up the slack? This makes passing on Reggie Bush even more questionable.
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I'm not getting this. DD is right on schedule.....
Kubiak will have 4 RBs going into the season, whether we had Reggie Bush or whoever. I don't think we're scrambling for scrubs either. Smith has shown to be a quality backup/potential starter..... Bennette has been a starter till now. Neither of which I believe will be getting any kind of Bonus from us..... they might not make the team. Until the beggining of the season, we might sign a dozen other RBs......... doesn't mean they will be on the team. Just filling spots for TC.
David's Busted Carr said:
Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not bashing the decisions that have been made, but with these developments it really makes me wonder if the Texans really picked Mario "because he was the best fit for the team" or if there was some other factor (signability) that was the main reason.
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I think we targeted Mario early on(Weaver was supposed to play Tackle). We believed we would be able to make the trade with the Jets, and still get him. Two things happened to screw that up.
1) The Jets weren't playing, when they said they weren't trading up.
2) The Saints signed a QB....
David's Busted Carr said:
It seems to me they were gearing up to draft Reggie with their other FA signings and are now having to do a complete 180 after picking Mario.
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I think they wanted everyone to think that. The hype he was generating..... or the hype ESPN was generating. The Jets with an aging Curtis Martin.. surely someone in the top 4 would come up and get him............ not.

I don't think Kubiak rated Reggie as highly as reported. I can't imagine Shanahan saying,"yeah you should pay the unproven fella $9mill a year, to do the exact same thing I get these guys to do for $400,000/yr" it doesn't make sense.

The only #1 in this years draft, was Vince Young.... and we screwed that pouch with David's $8mil + Sage's $2 mil.

So taking Reggie..... just didn't make sense..... Taking Vince screws up the QB position more than it'll probably help........ D'Brick just isn't as athletic as we're going to need....... AJ Hawk with a #1 overall?? I don't think so....... we wanted Mario from the get go, as he's the best player to help us in 2006, so we took him at #1.
David's Busted Carr said:
If they knew they were going to stick with DD, why didn't they sign Bennett early in free agency? Because they thought they would have Reggie? Now we are going to have to give up a draft pick if we want him.
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Bennett would be a value pick to anyone, since N.O. is taking the hit for the Bonus he's been paid..... I doubt we'd be looking at him if it weren't for that. I don't think we're scrambling for a RB anymore than we were scrambling for a WR...... or LB..... we have spots to fill on our roster..... we're trying to fill them. Nothing more, nothing less.
David's Busted Carr said:
Things that make you go hmmmmmm????
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Things that make me say...."get off of Reggies Jock...... it's got to be sore by now."
 
Double Barrel said:
I think, for the first time in our short history, we have possibly achieved a concept called "depth".

I know, I know, it's a weird feeling, and one that we Texans fans might not trust. But I think Coach Kubiak understands the importance of a strong D-line, and we need players that can both rotate positions, as well as come off the bench to keep everyone fresh. Defensive gameplans depend on it.

With regards to DD and not drafting Bush; Signability could easily have been a factor, due to the fact that a player is NOT learning a system and is NOT on the same page as everyone else while he's in hold-out mode. And who knows how long these things can last, as we've seen players refuse to sign through training camp and even into regular season. That can't be good, or even a chance to be considered, for a new coach that wants to hit the ground running as he leads his new team into his first season with them.

In addition, Coach Kubiak comes from a very successful system that proves that mid-round RBs can be very successful under the right circumstances (mainly an o-line that can consistenly create holes). So perhaps he wasn't as bamboozled by the hype as much as the rest of us, because he feels confident that backs are easier to come by than dominant defensive ends. Just food for thought.
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This too me hits the nail on the head all three of the points. Kubiak has been in the NFL for awhile now. He might just know a little more about the game than most of us.
 
V Man said:
Kubiak has been in the NFL for awhile now. He might just know a little more about the game than most of us.
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I Respect you V Man........ but this argument can be used in Capers favor as well.
 
Very good post as some around here are starting to think that Kubiak = Shanahan and can give us a Super Bowl next season. There have been some quesitonable decisions this off season, but for the most part we are gutting a 2-14 team, so really we can't get any worse. A good GM is going to be breath of fresh air around here.
 
thunderkyss said:
I Respect you V Man........ but this argument can be used in Capers favor as well.
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I don't think Capers problem was his lack of knowledge, but his loyalty to his staff (who didn't seem to have much football knowledge).
 
colts18288 said:
Yea you may be right, but I dont have to tie up all my time worrying. Simply because........Well never mind then I'll be labeled a troll just for defending myself.

Make all the snide comments you like, but remind me again how many times you guys beat us?:brickwall
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You know... that is what I use to hang my season on is how many times we use to beat the Packers, then I realized it really doesn't matter because at the end you are at the same place. Watching the superbowl at home like the rest.
 
colts18288 said:
Yea you may be right, but I dont have to tie up all my time worrying. Simply because........Well never mind then I'll be labeled a troll just for defending myself.

Make all the snide comments you like, but remind me again how many times you guys beat us?:brickwall
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If I may use you for a minute...

Can you share with the unbeliever Mario bashers... How important is a high quality DE to an offense?
 
jerek said:
Sweet heavens, a Colts fan? Who let you and your blasphemous graphics on this board? :)

Tell me Colts fan, how do you feel about releasing Edgerrin James? Good move or no?
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I know you were kidding, but, he doesn't come onto this forum only to attack the texans, (Well, untill we attack his team first and he retaliates and defends them as all fans do) from the most part, his posts are often supportive (Unless I'm thinking of a different person) but he is looked down upon because of his avatar and his display name... I'd expect more from us since we're usually a very civilized forum.

Back to topic. I think its funny that with all the depth additions to this team people start coming up with conspiracy theories. i.e. We have around 7 HB's on the roster, so that means we should have gottern RB because DD just wont cut it.... thats bs....

Or, the arguement about Weaver being paid DE money when he'll be spending most of the time at DT.... blame that on the people who offered him a contract...

Then those who think we have too much depth at our D-line.... seriously? SERIOUSLY? too much ... don't make me laugh out loud... oh yea, I typed it out... what of it? We have extreme depth at EVERY position... we currently have over 90 people on the roster, and we can only keep a little over 50 of them.... so... how many people WONT make the team? Just because we have alot of depth does not mean that we are scrambling around to fill our positions... There are 12 WR's on our roster, does that mean AJ better look out? of course not, DD will play, and our D-line will be fresh the pretty much the entire game... and thats a bad thing?

Eh, I'm ranting, so my point might not be as clear as it could be, forgive me... I'll look back on it later and try to revise it.

Less then 3,
Brandon420tx - Texans Fan
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
If I may use you for a minute...

Can you share with the unbeliever Mario bashers... How important is a high quality DE to an offense?
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Must be more important then RB since Edge is gone and DF is still on board.
 
David's Busted Carr said:
1) Why did we pay Anthony Weaver DE money if we are just going to use him as another DT? We already have Robaire Smith, Travis Johnson, & Seth Payne. And indications are Mario will be at one end and Peek/Babin at the other. I think we would have been fine with Weaver at one end and Peek/Babin at the other.
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At the time I think we wanted a DE who had experience in the 4-3, just like we wanted a LB with that experience (Sam Cowart). At the time we were probably looking at Reggie after all of his hype and probably figured he would help us then. I don't think Mario seriously came into the picture until about a week after we signed Weaver. As of now, yes, it does look like a total waste of money, but if we didn't get Mario as we were not sure we were going to get him at the time, Weaver would have gotten some good playing time and the move would have looked a lot better.

David's Busted Carr said:
2) It sounds like DD's injury is more serious than initially reported. Kubiak does not like Morency and feels he doesn't fit our system. So now we are scrambling to find some scrubs like Antowain Smith & Micheal Bennett to pick up the slack? This makes passing on Reggie Bush even more questionable.
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Antowain Smith was not brought in to start in place of DD. He was brought in to be a change of pace, short yardage back. Michael Bennett would fit very good in our system and Kubes wants 2 good solid RBs like many other teams in the league have to be dominant. Bennett fits our system very nicely, if we do trade for him. In Kubiak's running game, it is a one cut and find the hole type of running game, and from what I understand Morency is not adjusting to that well and will need some work to fit. Wali Lundy seems like he would fit our system well and him and Morency will be fighting for the #3 RB position.
 
thunderkyss said:
I Respect you V Man........ but this argument can be used in Capers favor as well.
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It was, up until last seasons 2-14 debacle.:brickwall

And in small minorities it still is (more specifically, Bobo)
 
Personally, I think Weaver was used as part of a ploy to make the Jets think Texans were going to go with Bush. Jets handled the bluff & didn't trade up. We get Weaver, a good player that we had to pay if we wanted him. McNair said $ would not restrict him from going after guys his coach wanted. He put his $ where his mouth is. Was it wise? Hey, it's his $. So we got a pretty good DE that can play tackle in Weaver and Williams.
 
thunderkyss said:
I believe Weaver was one of our first FA signings....... if not the first. Kubiak told Casserly he wants this guy. He plays DE in a 3-4... that makes him a Tackle in a 4-3.... more or less..... you don't see us even thinking about sliding our DEs over?? no, we're moving our OLBs to DE, and our DEs to tackle. I think Casserly/Ferens went about business as usual, negotiated & signed Weaver like they've been signing people in the past. Goofy contracts, trying to "lure" players to play in Houston. There is no doubt in my mind, that Kubiak ripped Ferens/Casserly a new Ahole when he learned of the contract details..... Even as a DE, Kubiak wasn't planning on paying him that kinda money.

I'm not getting this. DD is right on schedule.....
Kubiak will have 4 RBs going into the season, whether we had Reggie Bush or whoever. I don't think we're scrambling for scrubs either. Smith has shown to be a quality backup/potential starter..... Bennette has been a starter till now. Neither of which I believe will be getting any kind of Bonus from us..... they might not make the team. Until the beggining of the season, we might sign a dozen other RBs......... doesn't mean they will be on the team. Just filling spots for TC.

I think we targeted Mario early on(Weaver was supposed to play Tackle). We believed we would be able to make the trade with the Jets, and still get him. Two things happened to screw that up.
1) The Jets weren't playing, when they said they weren't trading up.
2) The Saints signed a QB....

I think they wanted everyone to think that. The hype he was generating..... or the hype ESPN was generating. The Jets with an aging Curtis Martin.. surely someone in the top 4 would come up and get him............ not.

I don't think Kubiak rated Reggie as highly as reported. I can't imagine Shanahan saying,"yeah you should pay the unproven fella $9mill a year, to do the exact same thing I get these guys to do for $400,000/yr" it doesn't make sense.

The only #1 in this years draft, was Vince Young.... and we screwed that pouch with David's $8mil + Sage's $2 mil.

So taking Reggie..... just didn't make sense..... Taking Vince screws up the QB position more than it'll probably help........ D'Brick just isn't as athletic as we're going to need....... AJ Hawk with a #1 overall?? I don't think so....... we wanted Mario from the get go, as he's the best player to help us in 2006, so we took him at #1.

Bennett would be a value pick to anyone, since N.O. is taking the hit for the Bonus he's been paid..... I doubt we'd be looking at him if it weren't for that. I don't think we're scrambling for a RB anymore than we were scrambling for a WR...... or LB..... we have spots to fill on our roster..... we're trying to fill them. Nothing more, nothing less.


Things that make me say...."get off of Reggies Jock...... it's got to be sore by now."
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Quite possibly the best post I've read on here. That said, put down the double expresso and step away from the caffeine.:bananasplit:

Gonna be a very interesting year, boys and girls. I'm just glad we have a chance to get on here and gripe about our FAVORITE HOMETOWN TEAM!!!!
If you disagree, think back to 1999 or 2000 and life without an NFL team and the Titans doing the Super Bowl number on our crotches. :crying:
 
thunderkyss said:
I Respect you V Man........ but this argument can be used in Capers favor as well.
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While this is true on the surface, Kubiak has five Superbowl experiences (as a coach and a player) and two more NFL Championship rings than Capers.

What's the old saying..."never underestimate the heart of a champion"? Kubiak has personal experience on extremely successful teams, and even with no HC experience, I like to believe that he knows what he's doing.

:redtowel: mmmmm, koolaide!
 
Double Barrel said:
I think, for the first time in our short history, we have possibly achieved a concept called "depth".
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Depth does not exist. It is only in your brain. It is as fake as Santa Claus (sorry if I ruined this for someone), the Tooth Fairy, and a well-behaved T.O.
 
DocBar said:
If you disagree, think back to 1999 or 2000 and life without an NFL team and the Titans doing the Super Bowl number on our crotches. :crying:
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Please, don't remind us...:(
 
Does anyone else see the effect Mario Williams has already given us by being able to move Weaver to DT. Talk about depth man.
 
A.) I understand Davis will be on the practice field sometime next week. B.) Weaver is awful when it comes to pass rushing. He has very few sacks in his career. I would guess that Weaver will be moving around a lot and may not even be in there at all during passing downs, which means some of those other guys you mentioned would be in there instead.
 
This whole Weaver getting paid DE money is getting blown out of proportion anyways. First off he isn't being paid an exorbant amount and I'm sure he will see plenty of time at DE on certain downs and in a rotation. Second off, we signed Weaver before any of the combine and workouts started coming through....so if your saying it doesn't make any sense to sign a player for good money and then draft one....well then the same case should go for if we drafted Bush. DD just signed an extension the year before for much bigger than what Weaver signed for here in FA. You can't just avoid all draft picks that you have money involved in.....I mean it is impossible and stupid to try and only draft a guy because you haven't recently signed anyone there or don't have a lot of money tied up there.
 
colts18288 said:
Yea you may be right, but I dont have to tie up all my time worrying. Simply because........Well never mind then I'll be labeled a troll just for defending myself.

Make all the snide comments you like, but remind me again how many times you guys beat us?:brickwall
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The real question is this, why post on a Texans message board to make yourself feel good?
 
Capers and Bush--- what do they have in common?...a day does not go by without mentioning their name by someone in their post. Why?
 
Hmmmm? We took Williams and did not take Bush on April 29th. Today is May 25th and Williams is signed and Bush is not. Hmmmmm? Next subject please, nothing to see here but some bellyaching and it ain't a pretty sight. Best lock up the women and children it is about to go down. :mario: :mario: :mario:
 
Double Barrel said:
I think, for the first time in our short history, we have possibly achieved a concept called "depth".

I know, I know, it's a weird feeling, and one that we Texans fans might not trust. But I think Coach Kubiak understands the importance of a strong D-line, and we need players that can both rotate positions, as well as come off the bench to keep everyone fresh. Defensive gameplans depend on it.
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Spot on Double Barrel...

From http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3884483.html

"Everybody is pushing each other," Babin said. "There are guys out here that have started in the league a long time, and now we're all fighting for jobs. If anything, it's going to make everybody better.

"And I know from what the coaches say that we're all going to get a lot of playing time. The way we're going to be playing, you can get tired quick. We're going to have a rotation there."

I like the idea that the D-Line is going to "be getting tired quick". Tells me it will be a attacking high pressure type Defense. The Running of the Bulls!
 
This whole Weaver getting paid DE money is getting blown out of proportion anyways. First off he isn't being paid an exorbant amount
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Weaver, Mario, and Robaire are all making "special or dominant at position" equivalent salary. Any player that gets 10+ million in signing bonus is in that category and is held to a higher standard by me at least..
 
Micheal Bennet is a first round pick and is a good running back if he can stay healthy...and thats a big if. But if he does stay healthy he could be the suprise back of the year.


He isnt deserving of being called a scrub.
 
Señor Stan said:
I like the idea that the D-Line is going to "be getting tired quick". Tells me it will be a attacking high pressure type Defense. The Running of the Bulls!
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I like the idea, too! Hope it is a sign of things to come! :redtowel:

While big scoring plays can really fire up a crowd, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, can pump up the hometown crowd like a dominant defense that consistently crushes the enemy's offense.

An illustration for my point:

Enemy offense---> :brickwall<---Dominant defense :texflag:
 
thunderkyss said:
I think they wanted everyone to think that. The hype he was generating..... or the hype ESPN was generating. The Jets with an aging Curtis Martin.. surely someone in the top 4 would come up and get him............ not.

I don't think Kubiak rated Reggie as highly as reported. I can't imagine Shanahan saying,"yeah you should pay the unproven fella $9mill a year, to do the exact same thing I get these guys to do for $400,000/yr" it doesn't make sense.
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Yes, thank you. I tried to explain this to people before the draft, about Reggie. They let ESPN use him as a tool to get a trade, but obviously no trade offers came that exceeded the value of Mario, and i can honestly say I am happy about that.

Mario doesnt just give us a stud DE, but it elevates our defense. Once this guy starts getting sacks in the season, other guys are going to want to join in. Look at the NC State Dline. If you see someone eating dessert everyday after lunch at work, your going to start wanting some cookies.

I also think that Kubiak is searching for our future Dline. This year is kind of a test year for some of these guys, becuase you know they are not all going to return the following year.

Anyway, the only thing about this offseason that makes me go HMMM is why we havent addressed our Safety problems, or maybe even Cornerback problem. I can kind of understand the cornerback thing, becuase we have a potential starter in Pbuc, so maybe Kubiak is giving him a test year as well...he is a players coach after all, he has shown that he wants people to prove themselves. Anyway i dont think our Safeties are up to par but i am not about to start complaining. Kubiak has fixed enough for me to not complain about a damn thing.:bananasplit:
 
Double Barrel said:
An illustration for my point:

Enemy offense---> :brickwall<---Dominant defense :texflag:
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I love his colorful illustrations, and Thunderkyss I agree compeletly with your previous post, its what I've been trying to say but I've gotten to flustered in my rantings to make my point :brickwall
MORE PICTURES PLEASE :yahoo:
 
I think Kubes & Co. are doing a terrific job at putting up all the right pieces together, I'm not expecting a miracle but I like what I see! I hope we surprise everyone in the NFL this year! The Bush/Vince thing should be put out to pasture & we should be moving forward. Some people here has just too much BUSH in the brain.:yahoo: :poker: :hunter:
 
Double Barrel said:
While big scoring plays can really fire up a crowd, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, can pump up the hometown crowd like a dominant defense that consistently crushes the enemy's offense.
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Señor Stan: "Double Barrel what is best in life?"
Double Barrel "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!"
 
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