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He is suposed to discuss VY & how he scouted the draft for the Texans. Could be interesting. Today.
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The Dude Abides said:I'll be listening in starting at 2. I'll post what I hear.
Trap_Star said:I dont mean to sound stupid, but is he still an advisor to McNair??
Battle Red Bull said:Seems like he vanished after Kubiak got hired....kinda odd. This is one of the reasons I'll be listening.
The Dude Abides said:Ryan Leaf will be on the Dan Patrick show tomorrow. Big whoop Dan, big whoop.
thunderkyss said:Wow....... when Dan Reeves compares Young to Elway, says he is more talented than Leinart/Cutler...... tells you he is different than Vick...... It's got to make you think.
thunderkyss said:Wow....... when Dan Reeves compares Young to Elway, says he is more talented than Leinart/Cutler...... tells you he is different than Vick...... It's got to make you think.
I never liked the Vick Pick...... but I was impressed at the success Reeves was able to get out of him so quickly....... that's coaching, & I like Reeves standing up, supporting that decision, and Michael Vick now.......... Classy guy.
chuckm said:You are right .... It made me think "and he still would draft Reggie, damn he must be a helluva player!" ...........
swtbound07 said:Funny, the impression i got was....i would take bush because they extended carr, not i would take bush because he is the best player. He speaks rather glowingly of vince, wouldnt you say?
DRAMA said:If I were a HUGE VY guy, I would HATE being compared to Vick. IMO - Vick is a terrible QB. I don't mean he's avg or he's ok or he's pretty good. IMO as a QB, he's terrrrible! I don't care how many OC's he's had or that he can't pick up the West Coast - blah..blah..blah...
He throws a tight spiral and he can run fast. Wow. He can't throw TD's, his running is on the decline, he can't read defenses, he makes TERRIBLE decisions, and he can't lead a horse to water.
VY, IMO, will be a MUCH better QB than Vick. Vick is a flashy little 5'10 runner playing QB. Vince is a 6'5", humble leader who makes plays happen and inspires his team. I don't think VY is a fit for our team as it currently stands with DC and would prefer Bush, but I'd take VY 100 out of 100 times over Vick...and Reeves is NUTS if he'd do that pick again.
Grid said:I think VY is great and all.. but I REALLY dont think you should be calling him humble. He is not humble.
swtbound07 said:Funny, the impression i got was....i would take bush because they extended carr, not i would take bush because he is the best player. He speaks rather glowingly of vince, wouldnt you say?
You get to do that win you win a championship. He didn't talk before the game he did it when he had the trophy in his hand and he left it all there too.Grid said:he also threw a hissy when he didnt win the Hiesman ..and then started yelling "whos the hiesman now" type junk when they won the championship.
Humble, he aint.
Texansfan30 said:"And with the 9th pick in the draft, Detroit selects Santonio Holmes of Ohio State!!! :-)
Trap_Star said:I dont mean to sound stupid, but is he still an advisor to McNair??
DRAMA said:If I were a HUGE VY guy, I would HATE being compared to Vick. IMO - Vick is a terrible QB. I don't mean he's avg or he's ok or he's pretty good. IMO as a QB, he's terrrrible! I don't care how many OC's he's had or that he can't pick up the West Coast - blah..blah..blah...
He throws a tight spiral and he can run fast. Wow. He can't throw TD's, his running is on the decline, he can't read defenses, he makes TERRIBLE decisions, and he can't lead a horse to water.
VY, IMO, will be a MUCH better QB than Vick. Vick is a flashy little 5'10 runner playing QB. Vince is a 6'5", humble leader who makes plays happen and inspires his team. I don't think VY is a fit for our team as it currently stands with DC and would prefer Bush, but I'd take VY 100 out of 100 times over Vick...and Reeves is NUTS if he'd do that pick again.
I can accept and understand his position..... with the commitment to Carr, & more importantly IMHO, after giving Rosenfells a bit of change..... what are you going to do.Runner said:He also said Bush is the best pick for the Texans - do you accept his expertise on both issues?
The Dude Abides said:DP - Does it make sense to get Bush?
Reeves - It's debateable, but Bush is a great guy, makes the other guys better.
DP - If you had to choose, who would you take?
Reeves - Bush. With the committment to Carr, they need Bush in a skill position.
DP - Who did you like out of the QB position
Reeves - Rare talent, who can throw/run and keep both coordinators up at night. Leinart/Cutler are good, but Young is really talented. Lots of upside.
DP - Compare Vick/Young
Reeves - No comparison. Young can stay in pocket. Throw in pocket. Does have the mobility. Mike is a guy who you have to utilize his movement ability. Totally different. Young is more in control of his body while running. Vick has a difficult time because he goes so fast.
DP - Compare Elway/Young
Reeves - Further along passing than Young. More polished coming into the pros. Young is a better runner though Elway could hurt people running. It will take VY a little time to catch up to where John was. Young showed a lot of improvement in the last year.
DP - how do you measure poise?
Reeves - Play in crucial games and make good decisions. Young seemed to enjoy tough situations. Like Elway, Michael Jordan
DP - Would you trade LT and Brees for Vick again?
Reeves - Without question. There are reasons he has struggled a bit. Three different systems has made him struggle. By reeves getting fired, he's going to set a QB back with his play ability
They also chose to extend Carr when they could have opted to pick Young instead.thunderkyss said:I can accept and understand his position..... with the commitment to Carr, & more importantly IMHO, after giving Rosenfells a bit of change..... what are you going to do.
But I cannot accept arguments from "knowledgeable" football fans who do not believe Vince is worthy of the #1 overall........ fans who think..... honestly, that he will be a bust....... fans who think Reggie will be able to cut through NFL defenses like he did in college, Yet Vince will struggle, even though Vince's running style has never been about speed. And I refuse to accept arguments from any one who says, "We won't be drafting Vince, so get over it" or something equally silly.
Now look at his comparison of Vince, and Vick........ look at his comparison of Vince, and Elway...... Now look at how he answered the last question.
thunderkyss said:But I cannot accept arguments from "knowledgeable" football fans who do not believe Vince is worthy of the #1 overall........ fans
HeroTime said:They also chose to extend Carr when they could have opted to pick Young instead.
Runner said:Why does that bother you so much? Some people think Bush or Williams is worth the #1 pick. Let's say Williams so that this doesn't get too emotional.
thunderkyss said:I don't know.
I guess more than anything, it's the "I am right, and you are wrong" thing. As if Williams being drafted #1 would mean that Reggie is not the BPA in this draft.
The Dude Abides said:DP - What's most pressing need?
Reeves - Awful lot of them, offensive line, did a good job against the run, need to do better in pass rush.
To me, Bush does not resolve the problems Reeves mentioned. Trading down for Mario Williams and possibly a couple extra offensive linemen should meet the most pressing needs. Why is he in favor of Bush again?
Thanks for the transcript of the interview. By the way.. Dan Patrick for Senate... He has my vote.
chuckm said:You are right .... It made me think "and he still would draft Reggie, damn he must be a helluva player!" ...........