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Bush in trouble for family home in LA?

im sure its a fake storie im sure someone coming from a low income family would of not put there moral values on the line like that.:stirpot:
 
If I were poor I would want my family to live in a nice home -- even if I bent the rules. They would have to be living in a dangerous ghetto shack though. The question -- was Reggie and his family so poor they needed a $750,000 home to live in? That is a California price so we might be talking about a house that would be a $150,000 in Houston. I'm not being very clear here, but I hope Reggie didn't move his middle class family to a nicer home just to take advantage of his situation at USC.
 
If you actually read the article the guy was not a "sports agent" until after he rented out to RB's Parents. Bassically the story goes as the guy rented out to the parents then when he realized who they where tried to pimp RB out and then formed his own company that never got of the ground.

So if you are a college athlete and your parents "rent" be carefull because the guy could become an "agent" after the fact and get your son into hot water.
 
I'm not going to speculate on the issue until I see more details unfold.

Looks like trouble for USC though. If they were innocent, why would the family move out of the house within 24 hours so abruptly like that?
 
Hulk75 said:
right, not much they can do if it is tue, had nothing to do with Reggie himself, his family did not go to USC.

No, the reason it's not going to have an effect on Reggie is because he's no longer a USC player. If he were returning for his senior season, USC and Bush would be in trouble.
 
If it is true, it could be a ding on his character and hurt his endorsements and may hurt his leverage on the signing bonus.
 
Who Cares... They did it through a (Loop Hole). It's like hey Man.. I like the way you sing. Move in with me, and when your contract over with So N Do Records.. i'll form my Record Label and so They can't sue when you sign with me.Reggie Bush got a House for his family from a guy at the time who wasn't a sports agent. No contracts was signed. He probally was charing them like $100 a month for rent; and Just for them to pay utilities. Surley Reggie Bush going to pay the guy for all of the rent and etc, When he gets his bonus.
 
It will mean Bush will slide in the draft because of "character" issues. Now it is more clear that the Texans will draft Mario!

3000 sq ft for $750,000 in Cali is nothing.....my wife's cousin has a home in San Jose, and it is roughly 3000 sq ft, valued at $1.3 mil.

That would equate to a $200k home in most of the GHA. As they say..location, location, location.

We sold our house in January for $190k (2900 sq ft)....down in League City.

However, we purchased our new home (4500 sq ft) in Spring for $300k. Difference, old home was a Perry, new home is a Meritage. Location and builder make a huge difference......so says Capt. Obvious!
 
Snapple said:
I'm not going to speculate on the issue until I see more details unfold.

Looks like trouble for USC though. If they were innocent, why would the family move out of the house within 24 hours so abruptly like that?
Maybe he was not an "agent" when the moved in to the house. Read the article will ya.
 
You guys really need to read the story. The owner of the house is not an agent. He tried to sell Bush to an agent months after Reggie's parents moved in. It never worked. End of story. The guy saw money and it was thrown back in his face when they found out about it.
 
Daonly said:
Who Cares... They did it through a (Loop Hole). It's like hey Man.. I like the way you sing. Move in with me, and when your contract over with So N Do Records.. i'll form my Record Label and so They can't sue when you sign with me.Reggie Bush got a House for his family from a guy at the time who wasn't a sports agent. No contracts was signed. He probally was charing them like $100 a month for rent; and Just for them to pay utilities. Surley Reggie Bush going to pay the guy for all of the rent and etc, When he gets his bonus.

http://www.niagara.edu/compliance/NCAARules-ExtraBenefits.htm

EXTRA BENEFITS – PRE-EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS

Boosters are prohibited from providing any type of benefit to a current or prospective student-athlete. NCAA Bylaw 12.1.1.1.6 prohibits preferential treatment, benefits or services because of the individual's athletics reputation or skill or pay-back potential as a professional athlete, unless such treatment, benefits or services are specifically permitted under NCAA legislation.

The only exception to this rule is if there is a clear preexisting relationship between the booster and the student-athlete. The NCAA membership services staff reviewed the application of NCAA Bylaw 12.1.1.1.6 as it relates to factual situations in which an individual (student-athlete or prospective student-athlete) has received benefits prior to collegiate enrollment from someone other than a family member or legal guardian, and agreed that the following objective guidelines generally should be used in determining whether such benefits are contrary to the legislation:

Did the relationship between the athlete (or the athlete's parents) and the individual providing the benefit(s) develop as a result of the athlete's participation in athletics or notoriety related thereto?

Did the relationship between the athlete (or the athlete's parents) and the individual providing the benefit(s) predate the athlete's status as a prospective student-athlete?

Did the relationship between the athlete (or the athlete's parents) and the individual providing the benefit(s) predate the athlete's status achieved as a result of his or her athletics ability or reputation?

Was the pattern of benefits provided by the individual to the athlete (or the athlete's parents) prior to the athlete attaining notoriety as a skilled athlete similar in nature to those provided after attaining such stature?

The subcommittee, however, noted that the origin and duration of a relationship and the consistency of benefits provided during the relationship are key factors in determining whether the benefits provided are contrary to the spirit and intent of Bylaw 12.1.1.1.6. The subcommittee determined that prior to initial full-time collegiate enrollment, a prospective student-athlete may receive normal and reasonable living expenses from an individual with whom the student-athlete has an established relationship (e.g., high-school coach, nonscholastic athletics team coach, family of a teammate), even if the relationship developed as a result of athletics participation, provided:

The individual is not an agent,

The individual is not an athletics representative of a particular institution involved in recruiting the prospect, and

Such living expenses are consistent with the types of expenses provided by the individual as a part of normal living arrangements (e.g., housing, meals, occasional spending money, use of the family car).

The subcommittee noted that the above mentioned interpretation does not apply to individuals who have no logical ties to the prospect. It also noted that a current student-athlete who, prior to initial collegiate enrollment, has been receiving normal and reasonable living expenses from an individual with whom he or she has an established relationship may continue to receive occasional benefits (e.g., meals during campus visits, reasonable entertainment) from an individual or family with whom the student-athlete has an established relationship. Such expenses may not include educational expenses associated with a grant-in-aid (i.e., tuition and fees, room and board, and required course-related books). [References: Bylaws 12.1.1.1.6 (preferential treatment, benefits or services); 15.2.5 (financial aid from outside sources); 16.12.2.4 (preferential treatment)]
 
I wonder if this Bush story is what they were referring to:

POSTED 9:24 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 11:16 p.m. EDT, April 15, 2006

INDIAN RESERVATION LOOKING TO SCALP A FIRST-ROUNDER?

There's a rumor running rampant through agent circles regarding a first-round prospect in the NFL draft who is getting the screws put to him by, of all things, an Indian reservation.

We've heard from multiple agents that an Indian reservation hoping to start a sports agency bought the prospect's parents a house and began to make payments on it. Once the prospect signed with a different agent, the Indians stopped making payments -- and are now threatening to go public.

We've also heard that said prospect has hired a lawyer to deal with the situation.

For now, the player will remain nameless in this space, since we don't know whether it's a wild rumor or whether it's true. We'll leave it to the real journalists out there to run with this one. You know, the guys with real resources and real legal departments and real insurance policies to cover real lawsuits.

Although the folks who made the improper payments would face no NFLPA-imposed discipline since they weren't licensed agents, there could be criminal liability under applicable state law. But the ability to exact revenge on the prospect by disclosing the payments in the days leading up to the draft might justify any consequences the Indians could face.

For the prospect in question, the news -- if true -- is highly unlikely to affect his draft stock. But it could possibly diminish his marketability in off-field pursuits, especially if the payments from the Indian reservation spark a broader inquiry that yields evidence of more extensive payments to the player.

We likely won't say anything more about this one, publicly or privately, until someone else reports on it. And if we learn that the rumor is unfounded, we'll post that information here, too.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

I usually balk at Pro Football Talk, but sometimes they are right, or at least partially.

Michaels – who is a member of the Sycuan Indian Tribe and works as a business development officer for the tribe's development corporation – failed to return multiple phone calls and was unavailable when Yahoo! Sports visited his home on three occasions this weekend.

The Sycuan tribe, which owns a casino and resort and is engaged in a number of business enterprises in the San Diego area, denied any knowledge of Michaels' relationship with the Bush family.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...NDubYF?slug=cr-bush042306&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

From the Yahoo story.
 
TexasJedi said:
I wonder if this Bush story is what they were referring to:



I usually balk at Pro Football Talk, but sometimes they are right, or at least partially.



From the Yahoo story.

It will be interesting to see how far this goes before the draft. By that I mean will all or most of the information come out in public or will it take a while for it all to come out.
 
You know someone always has something bad to say about someone on top! "Just let the kids play"- Bad News Bears Houston Astrodome
 
NFL | R. Bush's family being investigated by PAC-10
Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:21:28 -0700

Charles Robinson, of Yahoo Sports, reports USC RB Reggie Bush's family is being investigated after they were found living in a 3,000-square-foot house linked to Michael Michaels, a man alleged to have tried steering Bush towards an agent and who has ties of his own to a sports marketing company. NCAA statues prohibit student-athletes or their families from receiving extra benefits from professional sports agents, marketing companies or their representatives. A breach in statutes could result in the athlete being ruled ineligible and all games in which they played could be forfeited. USC athletic department officials looked into it following reporters' questions about the matter. USC athletic director Mike Garrett said, "Rather than jumping to conclusions, we need to determine the facts before commenting on this report. We have asked the Pac-10 to look into this."
 
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm



POSTED 5:04 p.m. EDT, April 23, 2006

BUSH FAMILY WAS THE BENEFICIARY OF INDIAN GIVER

Kudos to Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports for being the first to report that USC tailback Reggie Bush is the previously unnamed first-round prospect whose family had been living (free of charge, apparently) in a house paid for by a budding agent from an Indian tribe.

Robinson reports that Bush's family abruptly packed up and moved out of the San Diego home within 24 hours after Yahoo! Sports started asking Bush's mother, Denise Griffin, questions about information linking the house to Michael Michaels, who allegedly has a role in steering Bush toward an agent.

Per Robinson, Michaels is a member of the Sycuan Indian Tribe and a business development officer for the tribe's development corporation. He failed to return multiple calls from Robinson, and claimed to be unavailable when Robinson dropped by his home on three occasions this weekend.

The Sycuan tribe denied any knowledge of Michaels' relationship with the Bush family. The tribe owns a casino and a resort.

Robinson reports that Michaels bought the house in which Bush's family had been living for $757,000 in March 2005. Neighbors told Yahoo! Sports that the Griffins (Bush's stepfather, mother, and brother -- not Peter, Meg, Stewie, etc.) moved in at about that same time. Michaels is the only person listed on the deed, even though an inscription on one of the cement slabs reads "The Griffins '05."

Michaels and an associate named Lloyd Lake reportedly contacted San Diego-based agent David Caravantes regarding the possibility of recruiting Bush. Michaels was looking for an NFLPA-certified agent to handle the football contracts of players that Michaels intended to sign to his marketing firm, which Michaels reportedly planned to launch under the name of "New Era Sports and Entertainment."

Robinson found a potential web site for New Era Sports. Our tech guy Sean has determined via his own Internet sleuthing techniques that the domain was created on November 2, 2005, and that the administrative contact is James Choe of New Era Sports & Entertainment, located at 550 Park Blvd, #27, San Diego, (619) 708-8399. Sean also found a myspace.com profile of a kid from Nebraska who claims that he'll be working for "New Era Sports & Entertainment" in La Jolla, California in May 2006, another myspace profile of a guy who claims to be the "Director of Recruitment" for "New Era Sports Marketing & Entertainment" in San Diego, and the cache of a third myspace profile of a guy known as "Haterproof Homey," who lists "New Era Sports & Entertainment" as one of his "companies."

Finally, Sean found reference to "New Era Sports & Entertainment" as the agency for South Carolina offensive lineman Jabari Levey.

The contact agent? David Caravantes.

Bottom line -- Robinson's report seems to be right on the money.

So what does all of this mean? Not much for Bush. He'll still be drafted where he otherwise would have been drafted. And he'll still likely earn as much money via endorsements as he otherwise would have earned -- unless, of course, the free lodging for his family is merely the tip of a bigger iceberg that expands into a major national story.

Regardless of how it might affect Bush, this whole thing could get very interesting for the folks at Southern Cal. Since the Griffins apparently were living in the house during the 2005 season, the NCAA could eventually rule that Bush was ineligible -- and likewise could require the Trojans to forfeit all of their 2005 victories. Though we doubt for now that such an extreme outcome will result, Robinson reports that USC has referred the matter to the Pac-10 for an investigation.

Our own take on the whole thing is that it was stupid and/or arrogant for the Griffins to think that they could squat in the house bought by Michaels without giving anything to Michaels in return, and without the matter ever coming to light. We've heard that, for the past two months or so, Michaels had been trying to get his money back for the house and/or threatening to take the whole thing public. So why didn't the Griffins get the hell out of the house long before someone showed up and started asking questions?

More importantly, why did they accept free lodging from Michaels in the first place? Did they have no appreciation of the problems it could cause for Bush and the Trojans?

And why wouldn't USC be keeping closer watch on the activities of the family members of the players most likely to be targets for benefits from agents and marketing companies?

Stay tuned for more on this one.

:redtowel:
 
MY OH MY...

...for the once very thick, and yet extremely ominous clouds, that seemed to somehow form just right after the 2005-06 ROSE BOWL -- well, it suddenly seems that they are somehow beginning to part....

....for the BURNT ORANGE SUNSET -- is yet, slowly, but surely, forming above the far horizon......

THE BURNT ORANGE PRIZE is slowly taking shape -- relax, for our HERO IS COMING HOME!
MONARCH
 
MONARCH said:
MY OH MY...

...for the once very thick, and yet extremely ominous clouds, that seemed to somehow form just right after the 2005-06 ROSE BOWL -- well, it suddenly seems that they are somehow beginning to part....

....for the BURNT ORANGE SUNSET -- is yet, slowly, but surely, forming above the far horizon......

THE BURNT ORANGE PRIZE is slowly taking shape -- relax, for our HERO IS COMING HOME!
MONARCH


when I read your posts I have this guy in mind as a visual
king_friday.jpg


http://www.misterrogers.org/mister_rogers_neighborhood/cast_puppet.asp
 
If this is true its a shame. The Bush family knew a huge payday was coming. Why not wait? I hate greedy people. Why even risk the threat of potential sanctions when all you have to do is wait a year, let Reggie sign a contract worth tens of millions of dollars, Then move into your big *** house.
 
Djjoeyv said:
You know someone always has something bad to say about someone on top! "Just let the kids play"- Bad News Bears Houston Astrodome

This is true, the media is always quick to try and implicate someone to bring their image down. Now on the flipside, this is a big red flag in regards to Bush's character if true. If Bush knowingly allowed someone to charge his family below Market rental, or purchase this home outright for them, then this speaks volumes to his character. I have a big problem with him as a man of character if true.... I will say this, if this story were about Vince Young many fans here would be all over it, and it wouldn't be dismissed as nothing!
 
I could care less man....Im very anti-Bush, and still i say...who cares. I would say the same thing about vince. Still doesnt change the fact that Bush is primed for busting, and we appear to be the team he will do it with.
 
I always think of this guy:

The%20Great%20and%20Powerful%20Oz.jpg


I am the great and powerful Wizard of OZ!


Monarch, come out from behind the screen dude.
 
HeroTime said:
You guys really need to read the story. The owner of the house is not an agent. He tried to sell Bush to an agent months after Reggie's parents moved in. It never worked. End of story. The guy saw money and it was thrown back in his face when they found out about it.

...so how did the Bush family get the house? Read the rules about accepting gifts/favors from anybody, not just an agent--too, a house is no small thing--
 
MONARCH said:
MY OH MY...

...for the once very thick, and yet extremely ominous clouds, that seemed to somehow form just right after the 2005-06 ROSE BOWL -- well, it suddenly seems that they are somehow beginning to part....

....for the BURNT ORANGE SUNSET -- is yet, slowly, but surely, forming above the far horizon......

THE BURNT ORANGE PRIZE is slowly taking shape -- relax, for our HERO IS COMING HOME!
MONARCH

Buono sera, Monarch. The fortune that you seek is not lost, but yet an infinitesmal shot of it happening this year. It has been a strong Monarch migration this year and this should incite an optimistic outlook, but not that at the expense of the big picture. The Texans and VY can still co exist apart.
 
Wolf said:
when I read your posts I have this guy in mind as a visual
king_friday.jpg


http://www.misterrogers.org/mister_rogers_neighborhood/cast_puppet.asp

....do you normally visualize/fantasize about men in robes wearing crowns...?

....if so, then to each his own right! I mean, "whatever makes the WOLF HOWL", is ok with me......I just find it somewhat amazing that you would decide to "come out" upon the TEXANS message boards, right before the upcoming 2006 NFL DRAFT.....

HOORAY FOR MANKIND!
MONARCH
 
MONARCH said:
....do you normally visualize/fantasize about men in robes wearing crowns...?

....if so, then to each his own right! I mean, "whatever makes the WOLF HOWL", is ok with me......I just find it somewhat amazing that you would decide to "come out" upon the TEXANS message boards, right before the upcoming 2006 NFL DRAFT.....

HOORAY FOR MANKIND!
MONARCH

sorry, should have put a #10 on king friday's chest so you would appreciate it.

seriously though, I give all yall props for sticking with your guy, and if the Texans draft VY, well I'll be here to eat some crow.
 
HeroTime said:
If you actually read the article the guy was not a "sports agent" until after he rented out to RB's Parents. Bassically the story goes as the guy rented out to the parents then when he realized who they where tried to pimp RB out and then formed his own company that never got of the ground.

So if you are a college athlete and your parents "rent" be carefull because the guy could become an "agent" after the fact and get your son into hot water.


...where do you get this 'rent' stuff from?
 
It is a little fishy. But I doubt there will be anything that comes from this. And really, there shouldn't be.

If Bush were still in school, then there'd be a serious issue. Had he not declared for the draft and an investigation uncovered something, at worst he'd be ruled ineligible for the '06 season and would probably make himself available for the supplemental draft.

His family didn't do anything illegal. If somebody offered them a place to stay based on the hopes that the person lending the house would have the opportunity to represent Bush, then that's not illegal. Fishy, yes...but not illegal.

I don't see anything happening to USC. What did they do wrong? If they were aware of the situation and were doing their part to support it, then they might get a slap on the wrist. But I don't see that happening either.

Maybe something of a smudge on Bush's character (if accepting a house is a mark on your character), but I don't see it as a big deal.
 
Huge said:
It is a little fishy. But I doubt there will be anything that comes from this. And really, there shouldn't be.

If Bush were still in school, then there'd be a serious issue. Had he not declared for the draft and an investigation uncovered something, at worst he'd be ruled ineligible for the '06 season and would probably make himself available for the supplemental draft.

His family didn't do anything illegal. If somebody offered them a place to stay based on the hopes that the person lending the house would have the opportunity to represent Bush, then that's not illegal. Fishy, yes...but not illegal.

I don't see anything happening to USC. What did they do wrong? If they were aware of the situation and were doing their part to support it, then they might get a slap on the wrist. But I don't see that happening either.

Maybe something of a smudge on Bush's character (if accepting a house is a mark on your character), but I don't see it as a big deal.

It's totally illegal as far as the NCAA is concerned! It's everything that college athletics is not supposed to be about. An athlete, or his family, cannot receive benefits from boosters, agents, or "friends of the program" in this manner. Bush is the reigning "Heisman Trophy" winner, and it would be a terrible black eye to his character. The fact that he would willingly jeopardize the O5' season for he and his fellow teammates would be extremely Selfish!!! Hopefully this story is not true, but if it is this should raise huge flags regarding this guys' character. This screams of a "Me first!" type of guy! This is a huge investment we're talking about, and the situation will need to be investigated. Hopefully the Texans have done there homework already and decided this is a non issue.
 
This stinks. He's put his alma mater in a horrible position. I hope this doesn't go any deeper. I'm no Reggie fan, but this is a big red flag for a "character organisation". The big compliance issue for USC will concern their knowledge of this situation. This isn't even a gray area thing, this is a Heisman winner receiving enormous benefits from an employee of a tribe with a casino. I don't know how Bush got himself into this situation, but it's hard to imagine doing a dumber thing... he seems like such a sharp kid.
 
jreal26 said:
It's totally illegal as far as the NCAA is concerned! It's everything that college athletics is not supposed to be about. An athlete, or his family, cannot receive benefits from boosters, agents, or "friends of the program" in this manner. Bush is the reigning "Heisman Trophy" winner, and it would be a terrible black eye to his character. The fact that he would willingly jeopardize the O5' season for he and his fellow teammates would be extremely Selfish!!! Hopefully this story is not true, but if it is this should raise huge flags regarding this guys' character. This screams of a "Me first!" type of guy! This is a huge investment we're talking about, and the situation will need to be investigated. Hopefully the Texans have done there homework already and decided this is a non issue.
Again, read the article. The guy was not an agent never has been. He tried to pimp Bush to an agent on his own time months after the parents moved into the house.
 
How did no journalist in the area not put two and two together on this?? When Vince Young walk down the street in Houston, and give an autograph session, even my grandma seems to know about it a day or two days later. But you tell me that a sports marketing firm/agent/whatever may have bought a house (or at least appear to buy a house) for Reggie Bush's family worth 3 quarters of a million dollars, and they've lived there a good while, with neighbors who fully knew they lived there, and no one in the second most populous city in CA could have even figured that out until now???
Unbelivable! Where's ESPN, now?
 
HeroTime said:
Again, read the article. The guy was not an agent never has been. He tried to pimp Bush to an agent on his own time months after the parents moved into the house.

There's no doubt it's an improper benefit for an NCAA athlete.
 
What probably happened was the one guy complaining was in the running to be Bush's agent and Bush picked someone else (Joel Segal) so this guy is upset and is coming up with a nice little story like this now. If it is true, it definitely would have altered his eligibility to play college football last season, but it won't impact his eligibility for the NFL draft or anything, and I doubt any conclusive decision comes out of any investigation into it anyways (remember LeBron James being investigated for the same kind of thing his senior year of high school when his mom who worked as a janitor or school bus driver or something somehow got approved to buy him a $70,000 Hummer for his birthday and yet they found no wrongdoing in that?) Either way, no one really knows what happened as of now, and the truth likely won't be revealed until well after the draft and won't impact Bush's eligibility anyways, so I doubt it impacts what the Texans do with the #1 pick this Saturday.
 
HeroTime said:
Again, read the article. The guy was not an agent never has been. He tried to pimp Bush to an agent on his own time months after the parents moved into the house.


It doesn't matter whether the owner of the home was an agent or not! It's an improper gift the family received from Bush's celebrity status as a collegiate athlete. If an athlete receives any benefit such as this it is an NCAA violation no doubt. His family would have to have paid fair market value rental for this house. If not, he and USC, would be in violation of the NCAA eligibility requirements for this past season.

In essence, USC could potentially have to forfeit all the games Reggie played in this past season. How selfish, and stupid would that be of him. I've played college ball, and am very well aware of the many perks superstars receive. But for a high profile athlete to take such a huge gift knowingly, is ridiculous. I sincerely hope this situation isn't true, but it certainly doesn't look good.

As a frame of reference, the NCAA, went back and basically wiped all the wins of the Fab Five Michigan team from the books because of similar "benefits!" Again, I hope this is not true, but this is indeed a huge story that will follow him for a long time if true!
 
Wolf said:
sorry, should have put a #10 on king friday's chest so you would appreciate it.

seriously though, I give all yall props for sticking with your guy, and if the Texans draft VY, well I'll be here to eat some crow.

king_fridayvy.jpg
 
Again to recap. The way it went down. The Parents looking for a place to rent close to the son. Slug buys house and rents it out to parents. Slug then sees more dollar signs and decides to try and open up a sports marketing/ agency. He tries to get Slimeball aboard and hook Son by blackmail. Son says screw off and hires own agent. Slugs business never gets of the ground.

As far as NCAA violations go Slug tried this crap long after renting house out to Parents. Slug was not booster or anyway affiliated with USC, was more of a dime store hood trying to get richer.
 
HeroTime said:
Again to recap. The way it went down. The Parents looking for a place to rent close to the son. Slug buys house and rents it out to parents. Slug then sees more dollar signs and decides to try and open up a sports marketing/ agency. He tries to get Slimeball aboard and hook Son by blackmail. Son says screw off and hires own agent. Slugs business never gets of the ground.

As far as NCAA violations go Slug tried this crap long after renting house out to Parents. Slug was not booster or anyway affiliated with USC, was more of a dime store hood trying to get richer.

Where do you get this renting stuff from? If everything was on the up and up, why did the family bail out within 24 hrs of the confrontation? If they had a lease and proof of rent payments, the house was theirs to live in...if not...
 
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