phan1 said:
Well, it seems like next to QB, CB is the next hardest position to scout and evaluate on their success in the NFL. I believe if you look at the top CBs in the league, they were picked all over the place. We've got some great 1st rounders like DRob and Deangelo Hall. But then we've got some low round surprises like the up-and-coming Ricky Manning Jr. and Nathan Vasher. And then we've got the guy from the Cowboys out of Kansas St. (forgot his name) who has not lived up to his billing. The Chargers took 3 CBs in the 1st round. All of them suck! How the heck did that happen?!?
Anyway, I think CB is the next hardest position to scout and I'm very weary if we go that route in the 2nd round. I'd much rather have a good Olineman that we have a solid read on and is a need position than a CB. It looks like this is a really deep draft for CBs, and I can almost guarantee that they're going to be some big busts at this position. It does seem like the more successful CBs picked in the higher rounds have been guys who are PHYSICAL. Guys like DRob and Deangelo Hall are really physical CBs who can really get after it, unlike players like PBuc. Quality finesse CBs like Deion Sanders are much fewer and far-between.
You are right. It is a tough thing finding a CB sometimes. The Denver Broncos looked for years trying to find/draft/salvage CBs in order to get a reliable one. It just never happened...
Ray Crockett - Average, but never great...
Darrien Gordon - as a corner was absurdly inconsistent... but rocked at punt returns (FA signing)
Randy Hilliard - bust
Tory James - didn't come on until after he left the Broncos
Dale Carter - the Broncos were just desperate at that point (FA signing)
Willie Middlebrooks - was reached for in the 1st round after the two actually good corners were taken... bust
Deltha O'Neal - the first one to show any promise, went to the Pro Bowl then got too cocky and uncoachable... started playing well again after leaving Denver
Kelly Herndon - you can't expect too much from an UDFA
Lenny Walls - you can expect even less from a lanky, less talented UDFA
Eventually the Broncos decided "enough was enough" and they acquired one of the top 5 (and probably the best) CB in the NFL in Champ Bailey. All of a sudden it was like the light went on and the Broncos drafted 3 outstanding corners last year; Darrent Williams, Dominique Foxworth, and Karl Paymah. Although many analysts berated them for those picks, Williams and Foxworth played so well that they basically pushed 2 year started Lenny Walls out of Denver, and Paymah has been raved about time and again as the best physically of the three. He just needs to learn zone coverage (which he never did in college).
Here's a good video of them...
That being said, it is hard to project what good DB prospects will be waiting at #33, but I'm quite positive there will be some good ones. There are simply too many names with a 15-30 grade on them for none to slip through: Jason Allen, Antonio Cromartie, Tye Hill, Jonathan Joseph, Jimmy Williams, Donte Whitner, etc. That is quite a large list, and there are some prospects who could be reached for at our pick as well (like Richard Marshall or Kelley Jennings).
While there has been good, and even great corners taken in the later rounds the best ones always pop up early on. I would love taking a guy like Hill (just an example, not singling him out) to place opposite D-Rob. How about a guy like Whitner who plays safety like a Brian Dawkins and has the speed to cover man-on-man? Yes, our three needs left unfilled for this draft are OT, CB, and S. As long as we pick BPA for those 3 needs I'm happy.
EDIT: DeAngelo Hall is not a great physical corner. Has tackling has been notably poor, and he plays almost exclusively with quickness.