Mathis not coachable!

Ibar_Harry · Apr 11, 2006

http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/sports/interactive/justicemcclain/week56/justmc1.html

This is the Justice and McClain show on the draft and the Texans and he's mentioning young Shan is having trouble with Mathis. I've worried about Shan's age with the receiver coor. I hope Moulds can come in and put Mathis in his place that's where he really could be of additional value.

Malloy · Apr 11, 2006

Ibar_Harry said:
http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/sports/interactive/justicemcclain/week56/justmc1.html

This is the Justice and McClain show on the draft and the Texans and he's mentioning young Shan is having trouble with Mathis. I've worried about Shan's age with the receiver coor. I hope Moulds can come in and put Mathis in his place that's where he really could be of additional value.

I'm not in a situation to listen in on any audio right now (GF is sleeping). Do they mention Shan's age as the problem, or is that just them speculating?

Ibar_Harry · Apr 11, 2006

Malloy said:
I'm not in a situation to listen in on any audio right now (GF is sleeping). Do they mention Shan's age as the problem, or is that just them speculating?

He's says Mathis is hard headed and knows everything. I suspect if you put JR in the same spot it would be a different reaction. Its my spec that Shan's age is a factor, but I said that from the get go when we were hiring the coaches. That was the one coaching position that worried me. I think the guy is relatively inexperienced at teaching that position. This is where a savy vetern can be a real help. That's why I want Moulds in here training with the guys. He's done it all and can really become the leader of the group. He's been to the probowl more than once and has an outsanding reputation as a receiver. He's also known for his work ethic and being a perfectionist. He's worked out a lot with JR.

Malloy · Apr 11, 2006

Ibar_Harry said:
He's says Mathis is hard headed and knows everything. I suspect if you put JR in the same spot it would be a different reaction. Its my spec that Shan's age is a factor, but I said that from the get go when we were hiring the coaches. That was the one coaching position that worried me. I think the guy is relatively inexperienced at teaching that position. This is where a savy vetern can be a real help. That's why I want Moulds in here training with the guys. He's done it all and can really become the leader of the group. He's been to the probowl more than once and has an outsanding reputation as a receiver. He's also known for his work ethic and being a perfectionist. He's worked out a lot with JR.

I think you're right in that Moulds will definately bring in some authority and needed experience. This might have been the plan all along, skilled but green WR-coach + experienced WR as support. Also, I'm suspecting that while Shan is officially "running the show", he might be recieving some support and mentoring from Kubiak and/or Sherman, or some other "guru"

ledzeppelin229 · Apr 11, 2006

Malloy said:
I'm not in a situation to listen in on any audio right now (GF is sleeping). Do they mention Shan's age as the problem, or is that just them speculating?

I advise investing in a pair of headphones.

thunderkyss · Apr 11, 2006

Wow, they said Kubiak want's Carr to run more.....JM said Kubiak wants Carr to take off more often, he doesn't want him to run more, but he wants him to take off like John Elway....... keep the defense guessing.

Malloy · Apr 11, 2006

ledzeppelin269 said:
I advise investing in a pair of headphones.

I have that, but I also had a plumber asking me questions all the time and I did not want to miss any of em

Yeah, he's here to fix my pipes...

YoungTexanFan · Apr 11, 2006

I hate those two men. I turned it off halfway through because of them. It's all about Vince Young for them, and THEN they want Vince to go to Tenn. so he can play us twice a year and create a rivalry that he can write about.

Ibar_Harry · Apr 11, 2006

YoungTexanFan said:
I hate those two men. I turned it off halfway through because of them. It's all about Vince Young for them, and THEN they want Vince to go to Tenn. so he can play us twice a year and create a rivalry that he can write about.

Yep, you have to be patient if you want to get to the interesting parts of that dialogue. Be patient and you will pick up some tibits....

TexansTrueFan · Apr 11, 2006

well mathis going to the pro bowl in his first year prolly didnt help the situation any. I mean going to the pro bowl means ur good and maybe he figures he dont need any help since he was so "good" last year. I think A.J could help out J.M Just as easy as Moulds could. I mean AJ is in his 4th year, has a good head n his shoulders, so maybe the to combined can turn Our burner J.M into something more than a cocky return man.

Ibar_Harry · Apr 11, 2006

TexansTrueFan said:
well mathis going to the pro bowl in his first year prolly didnt help the situation any. I mean going to the pro bowl means ur good and maybe he figures he dont need any help since he was so "good" last year. I think A.J could help out J.M Just as easy as Moulds could. I mean AJ is in his 4th year, has a good head n his shoulders, so maybe the to combined can turn Our burner J.M into something more than a cocky return man.

The other side of this is how is Kubiak going to react to his coach airing this to the public. I think we all like to know about these things as fans, but some of these things are best kept inside. One thing is for certain and that is JM is not about to keep to much to himself.

TexansTrueFan · Apr 11, 2006

Ibar_Harry said:
The other side of this is how is Kubiak going to react to his coach airing this to the public. I think we all like to know about these things as fans, but some of these things are best kept inside. One thing is for certain and that is JM is not about to keep to much to himself.

yeah i agree, plus i think it is way to early for him to say that about J.M. haha speaking of that i'm curious to see if kubiak is one of them throw stuff scream till ur read guys, or just stand there and keep ur cool guys. But i wouldnt Give up on J.M just yet, plus as long as he can give us good consistent field position on KR, i'll be happy, cause i dont know of many good WR who are good KR too.

Wild.Bill · Apr 11, 2006

Just another example of an athlete that thinks he's above everything around him including his teammates and coaches. Shanahan's age doesn't have anything to do with Mathis being a meat head. Kyle did a good job in Denver and was well respected 'despite' his young age because of his football IQ. These football players are making millions of dollars and there is no excuse for them to let their ego's get in the way of the team and coaches.
I say he either needs to shape up, or ship out. We don't need his crap!!!

HJam72 · Apr 11, 2006

Wild.Bill said:
Just another example of an athlete that thinks he's above everything around him including his teammates and coaches. Shanahan's age doesn't have anything to do with Mathis being a meat head. Kyle did a good job in Denver and was well respected 'despite' his young age because of his football IQ. These football players are making millions of dollars and there is no excuse for them to let their ego's get in the way of the team and coaches.
I say he either needs to shape up, or ship out. We don't need his crap!!!

OK, no more coffee for you for a while.

TexansTrueFan · Apr 11, 2006

for about another 2 Kick off returns and an avg of 30.0 yrds per return i'll put up with his crap ell a "little" not like T.Os crap or anything though !

TEXANRED · Apr 11, 2006

Athletes like Mathis with attitudes like his are made not born. I will tell you why. I worked in a high school for a few years in the special ed dept and wittnessed how the Head football coach would shove his athletes in special ed, not b/c they were slow, but b/c it was easier and a gaurantee pass. His athletes would wonder around the hall ways out of class without passes and if you tried to correct them in anyway you got to talk to the coach and he would explain to you how important his athletes are and how he would handle the situation himself and no further action should be taken. I was even told to drop it a few times.

Had one student get in my face and yell at me telling me he didn't have to do what I ask cause he was the star at the school and he is the one that brought in enough money to build the new weight room. Even walked down the hall screaming it was his weight room. sad thing about him is he was being courted with a free ride to FSU and then blew out his knee senior season. He didnt get an education, his free ride was taken away, he played a little ball for a small school but never fully recovered from his injury. Who knows what happened to him.

At the end of one the three weeks when progress reports came out the coach sent out to every teachers box asking all the teachers who had his football players, if they were not passing to please give his players a 70 so they could continue to play and then subtract that point amount from there final 6 week grade.

Another time during the TAAS testing a teacher was asked to read the test to one of his players so he could pass and play college ball. Do you realize how many laws that breaks?

That is just some samples. Terrible how the administration allowed the coach to get away with that.

HJam72 · Apr 11, 2006

TEXANRED said:
Athletes like Mathis with attitudes like his are made not born. I will tell you why. I worked in a high school for a few years in the special ed dept and wittnessed how the Head football coach would shove his athletes in special ed, not b/c they were slow, but b/c it was easier and a gaurantee pass. His athletes would wonder around the hall ways out of class without passes and if you tried to correct them in anyway you got to talk to the coach and he would explain to you how important his athletes are and how he would handle the situation himself and no further action should be taken. I was even told to drop it a few times.

Had one student get in my face and yell at me telling me he didn't have to do what I ask cause he was the star at the school and he is the one that brought in enough money to build the new weight room. Even walked down the hall screaming it was his weight room. sad thing about him is he was being courted with a free ride to FSU and then blew out his knee senior season. He didnt get an education, his free ride was taken away, he played a little ball for a small school but never fully recovered from his injury. Who knows what happened to him.

At the end of one the three weeks when progress reports came out the coach sent out to every teachers box asking all the teachers who had his football players, if they were not passing to please give his players a 70 so they could continue to play and then subtract that point amount from there final 6 week grade.

Another time during the TAAS testing a teacher was asked to read the test to one of his players so he could pass and play college ball. Do you realize how many laws that breaks?

That is just some samples. Terrible how the administration allowed the coach to get away with that.

Did you go to school with Vince?

Lucky · Apr 11, 2006

Ibar_Harry said:
The other side of this is how is Kubiak going to react to his coach airing this to the public. I think we all like to know about these things as fans, but some of these things are best kept inside. One thing is for certain and that is JM is not about to keep to much to himself.

You've taken McClain's comment out of context. That's not difficult to do, as McClain doesn't clarify his statements as well as a journalist should and he doesn't always speak in a linear fashion. Here is what McClain was attempting to say:

1) Mathis was stubborn and difficult to coach under the previous staff.
2) Kyle Shanahan will attempt to connect with Mathis (He's coached Mathis for less than a week).

McClain was giving his opinion of Mathis' coachability. Not Shanahan's opinion.

TEXANRED · Apr 11, 2006

HJam72 said:
Did you go to school with Vince?

No. But his attitude reminds me of coach's, teachers, and parents who let him get away with murder b/c he showed a little talent.

Runner · Apr 11, 2006

I'm just glad our esteemed press has talked about a player on our roster. Who know what other little tidbits they may find and report.

Big B Texan Fan · Apr 11, 2006

Maybe there's something to be said for him not having a WR Coach in college. He's been figuring it out on his own this far, made the Pro-Bowl, and probably feels like he needs no help.

Put yourself in his shoes from a regular work-force standpoint:
A. Company loves what you do and tells you so
B. Company gives you some responsibility and you excell
C. You receive national recognition and win Employee of the Year
D. Then company brings in some young hot shot
E. Young hot shot has no experience at your specific job task yet has no problem bossing you around

Let's give this time. I'm sure he'll figure it out. Especially when he realizes that 4th rd money is beans compared to what he could garner if he keeps up the good work and gets his attitude straight

The Preacher · Apr 11, 2006

At the end of the day and you've got the cash, fame, all the speed in the world, women if you want, a pro bowl, and then realize in all these things that life's still got you down, you start to realize all these things don't mean that much. He'll learn eventually that integrity, humility, and respect will help him be a better professional if those are indeed things he is struggling with. He's really young it happens in the league all the time and most usually realize life can go on without them so they get with the program.

chuckm · Apr 11, 2006

I just listened to it .....

here is what was said about Mathis ...

JM: "Jerome Mathis has got great speed, Kyle Shanahan is trying to coach him, Mathis is a tough nut and I don't know if he'll ever progress because he's immature and thinks he knows everything."

that's all folks ...

infantrycak · Apr 11, 2006

Lucky said:
You've taken McClain's comment out of context. That's not difficult to do, as McClain doesn't clarify his statements as well as a journalist should and he doesn't always speak in a linear fashion. Here is what McClain was attempting to say:

1) Mathis was stubborn and difficult to coach under the previous staff.
2) Kyle Shanahan will attempt to connect with Mathis (He's coached Mathis for less than a week).

McClain was giving his opinion of Mathis' coachability. Not Shanahan's opinion.

Agreed 100%. This thread is completely made up over nothing. McCain has said on at least two prior occasions that Mathis was hard headed and tempermental. He got into an altercation with Rivers last year and I believe had a fighting incident in college as well.

How anyone could get out of that sound bite that Shanahan was the source of the comment is beyond me.

tsip · Apr 11, 2006

Wild.Bill said:
Just another example of an athlete that thinks he's above everything around him including his teammates and coaches. Shanahan's age doesn't have anything to do with Mathis being a meat head. Kyle did a good job in Denver and was well respected 'despite' his young age because of his football IQ. These football players are making millions of dollars and there is no excuse for them to let their ego's get in the way of the team and coaches.
I say he either needs to shape up, or ship out. We don't need his crap!!!

I think you meant Tampa Bay, where Kyle was a QC coach the past 2 yrs after leaving UT.

Malloy · Apr 11, 2006

The Preacher said:
At the end of the day and you've got the cash, fame, all the speed in the world, women if you want, a pro bowl, and then realize in all these things that life's still got you down, you start to realize all these things don't mean that much. He'll learn eventually that integrity, humility, and respect will help him be a better professional if those are indeed things he is struggling with. He's really young it happens in the league all the time and most usually realize life can go on without them so they get with the program.

OR, he'll enjoy his life full of cash, fame, pro bowls and women!

I know I would

TEXANRED · Apr 11, 2006

Big B Texan Fan said:
Maybe there's something to be said for him not having a WR Coach in college. He's been figuring it out on his own this far, made the Pro-Bowl, and probably feels like he needs no help.

Put yourself in his shoes from a regular work-force standpoint:
A. Company loves what you do and tells you so
B. Company gives you some responsibility and you excell
C. You receive national recognition and win Employee of the Year
D. Then company brings in some young hot shot
E. Young hot shot has no experience at your specific job task yet has no problem bossing you around

Let's give this time. I'm sure he'll figure it out. Especially when he realizes that 4th rd money is beans compared to what he could garner if he keeps up the good work and gets his attitude straight

The greats have never ever thought they knew everything. Look at Jerry Rice he played for 20 years and he was always learning and improving himself and never thought he knew everything.

There is no substitute for charector.

bad · Apr 11, 2006

Hulk75 said:
Sadly if that is true, it happens to a lot of guys when they have success early in the NFL or any sport.

"I am a pro bowler, I dont have to work out right now or watch film, I got it all figured out."

...and then they fade away into oblivion.

Makes me even more grateful for players like Jerry Rice, LaDainian Tomlinson, Barry Sanders, et al who never stopped working for even the smallest extra edge. They work their butts off and their busts end up in Canton.

Nothing beats a strong work ethic.

TEXANRED · Apr 11, 2006

jayseed2002 said:
That sounds like Wharton High School! By the way.... the kid initials do not happen to be K.H?

M.C.

Bearfan Blue and Orange · Apr 11, 2006

I do not care about his excuses or accomplishments. You are there for a reason and the only way you are going to get further is to LISTEN TO YOUR COACHES!!! NO MATTER WHAT!!!

He made it to the probowl, AS A RETURNER. not the elite WRs in the league. Jerry Azumah made it as a returner (we love him, but he has much more class than Mathis is showing!!!) I am kinda bummed we lost him this year to retirement, but her went out a fan favorite!!!

If Mathis' goal is to become an elite WR in the NFL, he better shut up, listen, and let his improved play talk for itself, That is class!! and you may get another job in the NFL later.

You can be the fastest guy, but if you are not getting the ball... doesn't matter

jerek · Apr 11, 2006

OMFW. And still we have people throwing out this talk about how Mathis "better do this" or that or good riddance. Listen to the sound bite all the way, or don't bother listening to it at all.

I agree with what Lucky and infantry already pointed out: This discussion was not specifically about Mathis not responding to Shanahan. Mathis' conflict with last year's coaching staff was pretty well documented, and Shanahan is now working with Mathis. It did not particularly infer that Mathis is not responding to Shanahan, past or present.

Then again it was difficult to understand anything over the noise of the VY-leg humping in the background. To say nothing of this being of the quality of the usual Justice take: credibility, where art thou?

Please close this thread already. Ridiculous.

Frank_The_Tank · Apr 11, 2006

Mathis still has problems catching the ball so I do not see why he acting this way. If your coach is young, you grow with him. Character issues will not be tolerated with Kubiak so I hope Mathis gets his act together

Frank_The_Tank · Apr 11, 2006

Oh and just because you are the son of a great NFL coach does not mean you are a great NFL coach. The young pup needs to take that into consideration as well.

TEXANRED · Apr 11, 2006

jerek said:
Please close this thread already. Ridiculous.

Why? For the first time in three months its a thread where no one is calling somebody stupid or an I d i o t. For the first time in three months its a thread that is maintaining a civil tone.

But wait you disagree, so instantly we must close this thread?

:ok:

So much for the civil tone.

jerek · Apr 11, 2006

TEXANRED said:
Why? For the first time in three months its a thread where no one is calling somebody stupid or an I d i o t. For the first time in three months its a thread that is maintaining a civil tone.

But wait you disagree, so instantly we must close this thread?

So much for the civil tone.

Lol. People are bagging on Mathis for no reason at all but Justice saying he has a bad attitude, and drawing some stretch conclusions on his relationship with Shanahan. Excuuuusse me if I don't hop to and join in the mud slinging.

Caddo1361 · Apr 11, 2006

TEXANRED,

I am new to the sight but I played college football for a small D3 school in the state that was successful. It was amazing to me, even at the lowly D3 level, how many of the players could not read over an elementary level, or even not at all. It just goes to show that fame will get you places hard work sometimes can not.

jerek · Apr 11, 2006

Which school? Some of my boys played for UMHB. I know there are a lot of D3s in state, just asking, as I went to a D3 myself (LeTourneau).

rafterticket · Apr 11, 2006

YoungTexanFan said:
I hate those two men. I turned it off halfway through because of them. It's all about Vince Young for them, and THEN they want Vince to go to Tenn. so he can play us twice a year and create a rivalry that he can write about.

I was a McClain fan, but I have gotten sick of hearing about Vince Young. It ain't gonna happen...he KNOWS it ain't gonna happen, and he STILL won't SHUT UP about the guy!

Why won't he just go back to talking about some restaurant that we know we will likely never see, or his new screenplay, or going to the academy awards...........you know, the stuff that made him only mildly irritating!

Texas · Apr 11, 2006

A.J doesnt seem like he's a leader to me though. Hes more of a follower and does his own thing.

Bobo · Apr 11, 2006

Ibar_Harry said:
http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/sports/interactive/justicemcclain/week56/justmc1.html

This is the Justice and McClain show on the draft and the Texans and he's mentioning young Shan is having trouble with Mathis. I've worried about Shan's age with the receiver coor. I hope Moulds can come in and put Mathis in his place that's where he really could be of additional value.

Kubiak is to blame for this. Anybody who has ever been in charge of hiring people knows that you must be sure that the person being hired in any supervisorial capacity must be in a position to garner the respect of those under him. Kubiak recognized the risk he was facing in bringing in such a young coach. I said this was a mistake to start with and now it's already coming to fruition. Sure, Mathis should listen to Baby Shanahan, but the fact that the assistant coach needs someone else to help him shows he shouldn't have been hired in that capacity in the first place.

Ibar_Harry · Apr 11, 2006

Lucky said:
You've taken McClain's comment out of context. That's not difficult to do, as McClain doesn't clarify his statements as well as a journalist should and he doesn't always speak in a linear fashion. Here is what McClain was attempting to say:

1) Mathis was stubborn and difficult to coach under the previous staff.
2) Kyle Shanahan will attempt to connect with Mathis (He's coached Mathis for less than a week).

McClain was giving his opinion of Mathis' coachability. Not Shanahan's opinion.

Your comments and those of InfantryCak are with merrit. It was the early morning hours and I was very tired and not feeling well, so I was just looking around for some news for the board. Unfortunately, I misheard what he said although I listened to it twice.

I had not heard of this before, so I was kind of taken by surprise because of his apparent work ethic under the special teams coach. Again, I apologize for my error and hope others will, however, listen because after you get by the VY/Bush thing there are some other points. Anyway at least McClain is starting to think like some of us that the Texans might be something special offesively this year.

Is McClain kind of the kiss of death though? I think he was chastizing everyone about not taking Cedric Benson. Seems like that didn't work out so well last year if I recall correctly.

Bearfan Blue and Orange · Apr 11, 2006

Ibar_Harry said:
Your comments and those of InfantryCak are with merrit. It was the early morning hours and I was very tired and not feeling well, so I was just looking around for some news for the board. Unfortunately, I misheard what he said although I listened to it twice.

I had not heard of this before, so I was kind of taken by surprise because of his apparent work ethic under the special teams coach. Again, I apologize for my error and hope others will, however, listen because after you get by the VY/Bush thing there are some other points. Anyway at least McClain is starting to think like some of us that the Texans might be something special offesively this year.

Is McClain kind of the kiss of death though? I think he was chastizing everyone about not taking Cedric Benson. Seems like that didn't work out so well last year if I recall correctly.

I can relate to that comment about Cedric benson... Just like so many of our #1 picks over the years...

TexanFan881 · Apr 11, 2006

Texas said:
A.J doesnt seem like he's a leader to me though. Hes more of a follower and does his own thing.

He's got Eric to straighten him up now :redtowel:

rmartin65 · Apr 11, 2006

I would like to see another report that says Mathis is tough to coach, I have never heard of this before. The few reports that have come out about Mathis says he tries to learn. Now, it might be true, I'd just like to see some more proof.

And yes, Mathis is one of my favorite players so maybe I am a little biased.

Errant Hothy · Apr 11, 2006

Could this be chalked up to Mathis becoming pissed he is now the 4th receiver on the depth chart and the team is likely to draft somebody who could also take away his return dutys?

It's has to suck a little that you make the Pro-Bowl and don't advance on teh team's depth chart, atleast it might seem that way to him.

Grid · Apr 11, 2006

....I didnt listen to the entire broadcast (just up to the Mathis part) but I didnt hear any mention of Shan. Where is this coming from?

I didnt see him saying that Walters is hard headed..or AJ..or any of our other WRs. If it was a respect issue..shouldnt they ALL be giving him trouble?

Sounds to me like Mathis may just be a hard headed and difficult to coach player. Moulds will hopefully fix that.. either directly..or by creating a better environment amongst our receivers.

Either way.. if Mathis cant take to coaching, and wants to spend his entire career as a 4th WR that does kickoff returns..then that is what he will be. Its up to him to take the next step. Hopefully he will try to improve. Id hate to see his talent wasted.

ojthecat · Apr 11, 2006

As far as I am concerned I could give a rat's beehind what McLame thinks about Mathis. All I know is last year when he was given a chance he performed above expectations. It is what happens on the field that matters most and so far I am impressed with Jerome. This is the offseason and McLame has probably been told to stop having blatent man love for Vince so he is digging for stories.

kingh99 · Apr 11, 2006

Hoth-Boy said:
Could this be chalked up to Mathis becoming pissed he is now the 4th receiver on the depth chart and the team is likely to draft somebody who could also take away his return dutys?

It's has to suck a little that you make the Pro-Bowl and don't advance on teh team's depth chart, atleast it might seem that way to him.

Of course. He's out of a position when Bush signs.I see him traded. He doesn't want to be a backup. Gee, the one good thing the league did to the Texans last year, making this guy an all pro or pro bowl whatever turns out to be a bad thing because it made him uppity about his value.

Second reason is this may be baby Shanahan but no way the players are going to win these battles right now. They are going to ship his butt out if he's a trouble maker. See the other guys they dropped for examples.

TexanFan881 · Apr 11, 2006

kingh99 said:
Of course. He's out of a position when Bush signs.I see him traded. He doesn't want to be a backup. Gee, the one good thing the league did to the Texans last year, making this guy an all pro or pro bowl whatever turns out to be a bad thing because it made him uppity about his value.

Second reason is this may be baby Shanahan but no way the players are going to win these battles right now. They are going to ship his butt out if he's a trouble maker. See the other guys they dropped for examples.

We are not going to take our starting RB and give him PR/KR duties.

TEXANRED · Apr 11, 2006

ojthecat said:
All I know is last year when he was given a chance he performed above expectations. It is what happens on the field that matters most and so far I am impressed with Jerome.QUOTE]

It's about more than performing. It's about being a team player and listening to the coach's who instruct you. Patriots didn't win three superbowls with all the injuries they had during each run cause they were not team players.

Same thing with T.O. Not a team player. All the talent and all the performance and the onlyl owner who would even touch him is Jerry.

Sorry the pro-bowl left a bad taste in my mouth. I have a problem when your only player representing your team and your city, is two hours late for photos and makes every player wait on you to drag yourself out of bed.

He needs to wake up and start looking over his shoulder. He is a faster younger version of Corey Bradford. He's got wheels but he can't run routes or catch.

Mathis not coachable!

All Pro

Hall of Fame

All Pro

Hall of Fame

Hall of Fame

Just win baby!!!

Hall of Fame

All Pro

All Pro

All Pro

All Pro

All Pro

Practice Squad

Hall of Fame

All Pro

Texan-American

Hall of Fame

Ride, Captain, Ride!

Texan-American

Hubcap Diamond

Veteran

Waterboy

Veteran

Hall of Fame

Veteran

Hall of Fame

Texan-American

Waterboy

Texan-American

Waterboy

Pro Hobbyist

Waterboy

Waterboy

Texan-American

Pro Hobbyist

Practice Squad

Pro Hobbyist

Waterboy

Veteran

Veteran

All Pro

Waterboy

All Pro

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.

Hypermediocrity

All Pro

Waterboy

kingh99

Guest

All Pro

Texan-American