Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Normality is only important to normal people, and fanatical sports fans aren't normal people. I know this from experience. LOL
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Colvin has been released
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Normality is only important to normal people, and fanatical sports fans aren't normal people. I know this from experience. LOL
The team ain't the reason they are leaving... after all, they stuck thru 2005 and 2013
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Exactly, every single thread devolves into this as if people think if they tie every bad or good thing to Bill O'Brien it will determine if Cal keeps or fires him. Like I said this has become as bad as political forums and I stay out of political forums for that very reason. Frankly its got to the point that if you just switch a few words around and don't mention names you wouldn't know if people are talking about BoB or Trump.
That's what gets to me... it's the same old regurgitated crap EVERY DAMN THREAD
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Team has jack **** to do with it. People aren't leaving the Texans they are tired of Texans talk because this is the most negative fan base I have ever seen of any sport. You can blame that on Bill O'Brien if you want but other teams have bad HC and bad front offices and they don't put down their team in every post. Hell the Miami, Washington and Detroit fans are more hopeful about their teams than we are.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I have never understood this logic train. You disagree with someone and you can’t agree to disagree? Or just move on, or ignore that person? Instead you want to throw up your hands in defeat and move on to a group of people who agree with you? Whatever.
Its not about disagreeing any more. People can disagree and still find common ground but this has become the hill that people have chosen to die on. BoB will be fired some day, that's a given, Bum Phillips said it best "There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." Even BB was fired but when BoB is fired do I expect people to come here and talk about who our new HC is or will be, no. I expect many to come here and start crowing about it, throwing insults at those they see as OB nuthuggers and basically acting like asses as though anything the Texans do actually matters in our day to day lives.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
I have never understood this logic train. You disagree with someone and you can’t agree to disagree? Or just move on, or ignore that person? Instead you want to throw up your hands in defeat and move on to a group of people who agree with you? Whatever.
Lol, I've had several disagreements over the years with several long time posters of this MB...Texecutioner, DB, Steelb, 76T..Rey/xtruroyalty, I-cak just to name a few. Its the numbskull takes, ridiculous level of agenda driving coupled with the uptick in dumbassery & decrease in any semblance of rational thought that's gone off the far end. A quality poster in CNND being run off by a ******* troll is a prime example of this. You who have been here since 2006 should know very well how the quality of posting has gone down since then.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Lol...exhibit A
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Sad part to me is how this reflects poorly on Brian Gaine because Colvin was one of his big early signings. Then I reflect on those who supplied him scouting data and recommended Aaron Colvin and that would be Rob Kisiel, who had Casserly connections early on as Texans set-up franchise. Might be the nicest man in the world and pillar in his community but Cal needs to drill down further to Gaine better results. No Scout in their right mind could project and offer a contract to a guy who lacks athletic ability and speed to play in the slot. He is also undersized and injury prone, well we all know that now but how you can't evaluate talent any better than that, means your in the wrong business. The clusterfk of moves and talent evaluations is simply astounding to say the least. The guy they picked up, Phillip Gaines is much bigger but lacks speed and would be liability in slot or even press, only a zone corner and aren't we all sick of zone coverage and soft cushions? Can't we focus on pure press corners, which Bouye was, I'm absolutely mystified and feel this whole scouting department needs to be gutted.
I’m not excited by the Gaines signing but to say he lacks speed isn’t right. He ran a 4.38 at the combine. Now, if you said he lacks talent I’d have no issue or rebuttal
In no way am I apologizing for the signing of Colvin. I had questions about Colvin regarding his zero career INTs. They were dismissed by the bulk of the forum, which was pretty happy with the signing.
But, I'm pretty sure Colvin had other offers besides the Texans. He was the starting nickel CB for Jacksonville, who were cap strapped. Had Colvin been cheaper, they probably would have kept him. The real issue is they gave Colvin starting CB $$$ and thought he could play outside. Then, they found out he couldn't play anywhere in RAC's scheme. The scouts, coaches, and GM should have known this. They missed and not for the first time. Likely, not the last. Like the draft, free agency is not foolproof. My biggest complaint would be, why didn't they cut bait sooner?
frethack
Rookie
I was happy with the Colvin signing, and may have been one of the posters that tried to rationalize his low interception numbers. My apologies, Sir.
Geologists do not make great NFL scouts.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
It's exactly like Groundhog's Day because it's been the same for 5 years.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
You are so right about us being negative. I am guilty. We need to be more positive about this team. Especially with a franchise QB like Watson.
OBrien controls just about every aspect of the organization and runs almost every aspect (badly imo).
It's hard not to talk about him. It's become a national story and goes viral when he does something crazy.
I mean the only reason we have this thread is because he cut colvin in a rage.
It's hard not to talk about him. It's become a national story and goes viral when he does something crazy.
I mean the only reason we have this thread is because he cut colvin in a rage.
You're just like the energizer bunny
Except the thread is about Colvin and the defense
Texas Jake
Rookie
It seems like every thread evolves into the same thread centered on O'Brien hate and how this team sucks. I get tired of re-discussing the same thing over and over and over. It's like Ground Hog's Day. There is very little meaningful discussion anymore about the team or the players, and when it does occur it is soon downed out by O'Brien hate. I get that you hate O'Brien, I can understand why you don't like him, and respect your right to have an opinion. I am just tired of hearing it for the millionth time and would like to talk about other issues that concern this team.
But do you have anything new to say about him, or just repeat or rephrase what you've said a hundred times before?
Maverick is not one of the die-hard OB haters that ruins every thread
We are talking about new things such as using two timeouts at the same time, giving a mediocre center top 5 pay and cutting the main slot corner with no backup plan
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
he sucked last season too, healthy scratch in playoff. The ***** is around why he made the 53 and guaranteed 2019 salary as it looked like he still sucked just playing slot. Booty Calhoun must feel like he really sucked here being cut before Colvin
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Yet it all comes back to your hate of OB. Why not talk about the defense covering for a TD when only a FG was needed or Watt not putting up any numbers for the first time ever or if our line just needs time together or are they still bad.
Here’s a novel idea you might also try positive things like the fact that Watson is scary good, our WRs making plays where they had no business making them, the fact we finally seem to have RBs that do more than just take a roster spot, actually going for it on 4th and inches instead of settling for a FG or hell the fact that we pushed a SB favorite to the very limit and made them win it on a 58 yard FG in their house under the bright lights.
I actually have said several of those things but no one responds
I'd like to think it was a RAC cut.
Water over the damn that cannot be reclaimed.
My question is what next?
J.J. needs help. Since we wheelin' n dealin' now days, who should "they" target to beef up the pass rush?
serious question.
It's all speculation. I have been trying to figure out the power structure on Kirby for years, mainly based off of interviews of Bob, Cal, GMs, and HCs (and other coaches like Wade).
All I know is this team has a board room mentality, one that was installed by Bob McNair when he founded the franchise. It was what he was comfortable with given his business background.
I'm not convinced that Cal is pulling any strings in football operations, much less making individual player evaluations.
Yep. I think it was a coaching staff decision with Cal's blessing.
I'd like to know why they kept him on the roster so long, but those are questions that we should never expect to be answered.
Our secondary is going to lose some games this year. . .again.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
No one good is available. Will have to wait for draft and free agency.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Does Connor Barwin do it for you? Slim pickings otherwise. These pesky edge guys are pretty dang hard to find too go figure.
Why are you ascribing these moves to Cal? For all we know, he's just sitting in a chair, eating a candy bar, and just nodding in agreement with OB. This looks like OB scapegoating the **** out of Brian Gaine by getting rid of every Gaine signing for any transgression, big or small.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Seemed to work out well for Howie Roseman, shipped virtually every Chip Kelly signing, shortly there after won the Super Bowl.
And it still continues, just brought back DeSean Jackson, who Gaine never bothered to bring in after Fuller went down last season.
Even with the 'Phins tanking?
Surely there's someone on somebody's practice squad we can poach
Surely "they" had someone in mind when they let Clowney go
AlbertanTexan
Practice Squad
Hard to argue with cutting Colvin after his performance in New Orleans and basically costing us the game so good riddance. Don't know much about Gaines but how much worse could he be.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Rick traded away Schaub lol
GM stuff right there
Rick extended a post lis franc schaub when kubiak didn't want to. (In season)
I hear you, but your actions tell an entirely different story. If those people were to come back & crow, it will bother you. It will bother you something awful, as if it matters in your day to day.
I know this because you act as if you have to respond to every negative O'Brien/Texans post.
People are going to be people. Try not to let it bother you. Don't respond. Find someone, some post worth your time.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
True, but also managed to clean that up with a trade when Schaub was dead weight. Like brock O
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I can see where you get that but it’s less to do with it bothering me and more to do with having so much down time at work and so little to fill it. This site is one of the few not blocked so no it won’t bother me, I just respond because on most days it’s fun to argue with people on here. Last month or so it has become less so.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Lol, one knows how to conduct himself publicly. I will give OB that.
Nonetheless they both talk down upon us.
I mean I have no idea how hard it is to win in this league but I know a prevent defense prevents me from winning lol.
I can't say much. I've been giving him the business about swapping starter before halftime.
This time he waited until the game was over.
Nope
Colvin was cut because he sucked last yr.
He sucked 1st game this yr and poof, he's gone.
You dont like accountability?