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badboy

Hall of Fame
Have you watched any film on Sean Bunting? He’s my round 2 CB crush!
yes but imo too high for him more end of draft and for my board that's a problem as I like other positions or players. I would not be upset if drafted day three but I like Tulane's Donnie Lewis better. Bunting entered draft after his coach at Central Michigan was fired. An interesting note as a RS soph he had 5 INTs last four games. He has size despite some saying too thin but he can bulk up in NFL without losing speed. He plays ball and tries to totally block out the receiver's ability to catch ball; a true cover guy but may have some penalties in NFL while adjusting. This is another guy who should allow Texans to go after only one corner top three picks and add later. I see him more as a Julian Love with more speed than a Andreus Williams.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
more info :

• The New York Jets seem "determined" to trade down in the first round of NFL draft. The Jets have the third overall pick on Thursday. (Ralph Vacchiano, SNY)

• The Cardinals using the No. 1 pick on Murray now seems unlikely. (Pete Prisco, CBS Sports)
https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/22/nfl-draft-rumors-news-updates-trades-signings



Ian Rapoport

✔@RapSheet


Big news for #NotreDame DT Jerry Tillery, a potential 1st rounder, after his appointment with top shoulder doctor, Peter Millett in Vail: Tillery is ahead of schedule in his rehab from March 6 shoulder surgery & fully expects Tillery to be ready for full activities in early July.
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10:16 AM - Apr 22, 2019


Ian Rapoport

✔@RapSheet

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1120279579606671365

#AZCardinals brass — GM Steve Keim, coach Kliff Kingsbury and owner Michael Bidwill — will have a final meeting over the next couple days to discuss their options at No. 1, sources say. The Cardinals have received feeler calls from teams inquiring about trading up, as well.


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5:54 AM - Apr 22, 2019
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
This may have been posted elsewhere:
Memphis running back Darrell Henderson is now considered a possibility to sneak into the back end of the first round of the draft, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL.com (Twitter link), who adds Henderson has recently met with the Rams, Eagles, Raiders, and Cardinals.
entire article here https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019-nfl-draft

The Raiders disbanded their successful guard tandem this offseason, trading All-Pro Kelechi Osemele and a sixth-round pick to the Jets for a fifth-round selection. They plan to find Gabe Jackson‘s next guard mate in this draft, Michael Gehlken of the Las Vegas Review-Journal notes
Beyond their three first-round picks, the Raiders hold the No. 35 overall selection. Their next pick is not until No. 106, pointing to the team using one of its first four choices on a guard. The current thinking is a quarterback will not be one of Oakland’s first three picks. The team is eyeing cornerback help in this draft. The Raiders’ only known pre-draft guard visit was with mid-round prospect Connor McGovern, but their staff coached Dalton Risner, a tackle who is likely to move inside at the pro level, along with Chris Lindstrom and centers Garrett Bradbury and Erik McCoy at the Senior Bowl.
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019-nfl-draft
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
The Cardinals using the No. 1 pick on Murray now seems unlikely. (Pete Prisco, CBS Sports)

So the Cards have just been messing with Rosen’s head all offseason? Head and shoulders the most dysfunctional team in the league.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
The Cardinals using the No. 1 pick on Murray now seems unlikely. (Pete Prisco, CBS Sports)

So the Cards have just been messing with Rosen’s head all offseason? Head and shoulders the most dysfunctional team in the league.
Going to hire Mel Kyper as GM soon.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
The Cardinals using the No. 1 pick on Murray now seems unlikely. (Pete Prisco, CBS Sports)

So the Cards have just been messing with Rosen’s head all offseason? Head and shoulders the most dysfunctional team in the league.
They’ve done everything they can to ruin their first round QB.
 

zshawn10

All Pro
"Josh Rosen will be an abject failure. He will turn on his team, he will be a baby."

"I don’t know if Murray will succeed or not. Steve Keim will be fired by the end of the season if Arizona doesn’t draft Kyler Murray. A Nick Bosa will not change their fortunes."

—Lance Zierlein

More from Zierlein...

"I talked to one team that said every player they talked to, across the board whether they’re name-brand top picks or mid rounders or priority free agents, one of the questions their scouts and personnel guys always ask [prospects] is ‘What team has done the most [pre-draft] work on you do you think?’ and they said it’s incredible how often the answer is, ‘Oh, the Texans, the Texans.’ Every tackle that they talked said the Texans have shown the most interest in them, the Texans have done the most work on them."
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I have no idea what kind of QB Rosen can become but I also don't know what one player will turn Az around. It would have to be a playmaker but those are not so great this draft, no Saquan for example. Rosen is huge gamble to hang future of Cards on but he should bring a late first (Pats?) Or couple day two. Haskins is safe pick but Murray is pick to save Keim's job plus sell tickets and interest fans. My move would be trade #1 to Raiders or NYG using 4 to trade down again to still get Haskins or Lock and add good players to help QB score. Points interests fans and what is needed this year. Haskins at 6 + Metcalf or Hockenson 17 plus another good player at 37. If trade to Oak or NYG I would trade Rosen for all I could get preferably to NE for one of their twos and all 3 thirds, draft well and jobs will be safe for at least two more years.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
#Texans Managing pursuit O-Tackle masterfully. Evident for months landing one premium 3 tackles require trading up from 23rd Overall. In Draft w/ few teams looking to move up (majority looking to stay put or slide down) Texans negotiating w/ teams 8-13 from position of strength.

— Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) April 23, 2019
If they get up to 8 Clowney must be involved... Got my popcorn ready to watch the draft day madness unfold!
 

JB

Innocent Bystander
Contributor's Club
#Texans Managing pursuit O-Tackle masterfully. Evident for months landing one premium 3 tackles require trading up from 23rd Overall. In Draft w/ few teams looking to move up (majority looking to stay put or slide down) Texans negotiating w/ teams 8-13 from position of strength.

— Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) April 23, 2019
Curious as to who they have as the 3 premium tackles
 

OptimisticTexan

2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Dillard, Taylor, or Jonah?
That could be but I don't think any those OL will still be on the board come pick 23. Each of those guys have enjoyed watching their stock soar as the draft draws closer. I think those 3 could be off the board by pick 15. If the Texans have a desire for one of the three.....I could see Gaine trying to hold onto as much draft stock as he can this year and working a deal around his 2020 picks.

I'd be interested to hear what kind of offers Gaine has received for Clowney. I'm sure he's getting calls but maybe he's holding out till draft day for the best possible package. As long as there's a RD1 in the package then I'd be pretty stoked.

I'm also pretty sure Gaine would entertain trading back from 23 provided he stays in RD1, his targets could be had after 23, and he gets an extra pick that falls in RD3.

Imagine if you will what the draft might look like if the Texans secured 3 additional picks before RD4 started.......
 

JB

Innocent Bystander
Contributor's Club
That could be but I don't think any those OL will still be on the board come pick 23. Each of those guys have enjoyed watching their stock soar as the draft draws closer. I think those 3 could be off the board by pick 15. If the Texans have a desire for one of the three.....I could see Gaine trying to hold onto as much draft stock as he can this year and working a deal around his 2020 picks.

I'd be interested to hear what kind of offers Gaine has received for Clowney. I'm sure he's getting calls but maybe he's holding out till draft day for the best possible package. As long as there's a RD1 in the package then I'd be pretty stoked.

I'm also pretty sure Gaine would entertain trading back from 23 provided he stays in RD1, his targets could be had after 23, and he gets an extra pick that falls in RD3.

Imagine if you will what the draft might look like if the Texans secured 3 additional picks before RD4 started.......
He was answering my question

#Texans Managing pursuit O-Tackle masterfully. Evident for months landing one premium 3 tackles require trading up from 23rd Overall. In Draft w/ few teams looking to move up (majority looking to stay put or slide down) Texans negotiating w/ teams 8-13 from position of strength.

— Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) April 23, 2019
Curious as to who they have as the 3 premium tackles
 

HaveMercy

Passing Through
Several good things and/or several sub-optimal things could happen with the Texans this weekend, right? And we won't really know the impact and ripples if some of it for 2 or 3 years. But I know one thing for sure: this draft is going to have its share of surprises, maybe a lot of surprises. I'm expecting more than normal. And this MB will have a lot more fodder for discussion.
 
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zshawn10

All Pro
Last week, Texans general manager Brian Gaine said his team was not forced to take a certain position and could draft the best player available in the first round. Even though Gaine states that publicly, the Texans do have numerous holes on the roster they want to address. In speaking to sources currently with the Texans, one position they have some interest in addressing is running back. It may not be in the first round, but Houston would like a receiving back and speedy back who could help move the ball. Sources say the Texans want an Alvin Kamara-type back. Even though they know they are unlikely to land one as good as Kamara has been for the Saints, they would like that style of back to be added into their offense. That could be a tough commodity to find, but that is something Houston sources say the team is interested in finding.
https://walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/article/2019-NFL-Draft-Week---Monday-Rumors
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
Staff member
Contributor's Club
And we won't really know the impact and ripples if some of it for 2 or 3 years. But I know one thing for sure: this draft is going to have its share of surprises, maybe a lot of surprises.
I'm already surprised .don't they normally start on Friday?
 
That could be but I don't think any those OL will still be on the board come pick 23. Each of those guys have enjoyed watching their stock soar as the draft draws closer. I think those 3 could be off the board by pick 15. If the Texans have a desire for one of the three.....I could see Gaine trying to hold onto as much draft stock as he can this year and working a deal around his 2020 picks.

I'd be interested to hear what kind of offers Gaine has received for Clowney. I'm sure he's getting calls but maybe he's holding out till draft day for the best possible package. As long as there's a RD1 in the package then I'd be pretty stoked.

I'm also pretty sure Gaine would entertain trading back from 23 provided he stays in RD1, his targets could be had after 23, and he gets an extra pick that falls in RD3.

Imagine if you will what the draft might look like if the Texans secured 3 additional picks before RD4 started.......
After the Frank Clark trade, what would you want as an offer if Clowney were to be traded?
 

zshawn10

All Pro
Mel Kiper’s top 300: Final 2019 NFL draft Big Board



1. Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State
2. Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama
3. Devin White, LB, LSU
4. Josh Allen, OLB, Kentucky
5. Devin Bush, LB, Michigan
6. Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma
7. Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State
8. T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa
9. Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
10. Montez Sweat, DE, Mississippi State
11. Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson
12. Jonah Williams, OT/G, Alabama
13. Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State
14. Chris Lindstrom, G, Boston College
15. Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama
16. Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
17. Brian Burns, OLB/DE, Florida State
18. Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State
19. Rashan Gary, DE, Michigan
20. Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson
21. Drew Lock, QB, Missouri
22. Cody Ford, OT/G, Oklahoma
23. Daniel Jones, QB, Duke
24. Darnell Savage Jr., S, Maryland
25. Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
26. Byron Murphy, CB, Washington
27. Erik McCoy, C/G, Texas A&M
28. Irv Smith Jr., TE, Alabama
29. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma
30. Noah Fant, TE, Iowa
31. Garrett Bradbury, C/G, NC State
32. Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia
33. Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia
34. Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple
35. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
36. DK Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss
37. Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State
38. Lonnie Johnson Jr., CB, Kentucky
39. Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech
40. Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State
41. Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State
42. Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina
43. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama
44. JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford
45. Miles Sanders, RB, Penn State
46. Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington
47. Chase Winovich, OLB, Michigan
48. N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
49. Khalen Saunders, DT, Western Illinois
50. Khari Willis, S, Michigan State

53. Tytus Howard, OT, Alabama State
61. Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State
63. Connor McGovern, G, Penn State
70. Chuma Edoga, OT, USC
73. Greg Little, OT, Mississippi
77. Max Scharping, OT, Northern Illinois
89. Michael Deiter, G, Wisconsin
91. Dru Samia, G, Oklahoma
94. Michael Jordan, C, Ohio State
97. Nate Davis, G, Charlotte

Offensive Tackles
1. *Jonah Williams, Alabama
2. *Jawaan Taylor, Florida
3. *Cody Ford, Oklahoma
4. Andre Dillard, Washington State
5. Dalton Risner, Kansas State
6. Kaleb McGary, Washington
7. Tytus Howard, Alabama State
8. Chuma Edoga, USC
9. *Greg Little, Mississippi
10. Max Scharping, Northern Illinois
11. Yodny Cajuste, West Virginia
12. *Bobby Evans, Oklahoma
13. Dennis Daley, South Carolina
14. *William Sweet, North Carolina
15. *David Edwards, Wisconsin
16. *Andre James, UCLA
17. Joe Lowery, Ohio
18. Chidi Okeke, Tennessee State
19. Mitch Hyatt, Clemson
20. *Tyler Roemer, San Diego State
21. Isaiah Prince, Ohio State
22. George Asafo-Adjei, Kentucky
23. Joshua Miles, Morgan State
24. Derwin Gray, Maryland
25. Jackson Barton, Utah
26. Trey Pipkins, OT, Sioux Falls
27. Yosuah Nijman, Virginia Tech
28. Lukayus McNeil, Louisville
29. Dan Cooney, San Diego
30. Damian Prince, Maryland
31. Oli Udoh, Elon
32. *Ryan Bates, Penn State
33. Justin Skule, Vanderbilt
34. Devon Johnson, Ferris State
35. Derrick Kelly, Florida State
36. Ryan Pope, San Diego State
37. Jaelin Robinson, Temple
38. Brandon Knight, Indiana
39. Tyree St. Louis, Miami (Fla.)
40. Cody Conway, Syracuse
41. Tariq Cole, Rutgers
42. Maurice Bibaku Simba, Concordia (Canada)
43. Donnell Greene, Minnesota
44. Martez Ivey, Florida
45. Paul Adams, Missouri
46. Brian Wallace, Arkansas
47. Juwann Bushell-Beatty, Michigan
48. Lanard Bonner, Arkansas State
49. Patrick Mekari, California

Cornerbacks
1. *Byron Murphy, Washington
2. Deandre Baker, Georgia
3. *Greedy Williams, LSU
4. Rock Ya-Sin, Temple
5. *Lonnie Johnson Jr., Kentucky
6. *Justin Layne, Michigan State
7. Julian Love, Notre Dame
8. *Joejuan Williams, Vanderbilt
9. *David Long, Michigan
10. *Trayvon Mullen, Clemson
11. Amani Oruwariye, Penn State
12. *Sean Bunting, Central Michigan
13. Corey Ballentine, Washburn
14. Iman Lewis-Marshall, USC
15. Jamel Dean, Auburn
16. Kendall Sheffield, Ohio State
17. Isaiah Johnson, Houston
18. Mark Fields, Clemson
19. Jordan Brown, South Dakota State
20. Derrick Baity, Kentucky
21. *Saivion Smith, Alabama
22. *Hamp Cheevers, Boston College
23. Jimmy Moreland, James Madison
24. Kris Boyd, Texas
25. Derrek Thomas, Baylor
26. Davante Davis, Texas
27. Chris Westry, Kentucky
28. Jamal Peters, Mississippi State
29. *Clifton Duck, Appalachian State
30. Jordan Miller, Washington
31. Ken Webster, Mississippi
32. Blessuan Austin, Rutgers
33. Rashad Fenton, South Carolina
34. *Xavier Crawford, Central Michigan
35. *Ryan Pulley, Arkansas
36. Michael Jackson, Miami (Fla.)
37. Montre Hartage, Northwestern
38. Tim Harris, Virginia
39. Ka’dar Hollman, Toledo
40. Jordan Wyatt, SMU
41. Deion Harris, North Dakota
42. Donnie Lewis Jr., Tulane
43. Alijah Holder, Stanford
44. Blace Brown, Troy
45. Tyler Horton, Boise State
46. Isaiah Wharton, Rutgers
47. Tae Hayes, Appalachian State
48. Keisean Nixon, South Carolina
49. Kemon Hall, North Texas
50. Tank Kelly, Fresno State
51. Brian Peavy, Iowa State
 
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badboy

Hall of Fame
Math isn't my strength but I am evaluating the Frank Clark trade as follows based on info I have:
Seattle got 1.29 640 and 2020 round two which for this year approx value is round three. The swap of 2019 round threes [Seattle gave up 3.84 170 and got 3.92 132 net loss 38].

1.29 640 plus projected round three value 3.87 or 155 points =795

This valuation is guesstimate only and for discussion on trade worth for Clowney; also what our #23 could bring.

First our #23 is worth 760 and should bring {for example} PATs 2.64 270+ 3.73 225 + 3.97 112 + 3.101 96 + 4.134 39 = 742. **Note 3.97 and on do not reflect actual round due to comps but points accurate.

Clowney: I think the value that Seattle got was actually low for total package as it equals a bit less than their current #21 800 points. I think Clark value is about 1.18 900 points. JD should bring at minimum 1200 (1.12) and higher.

Let's not forget that Seattle just gave monster deal to a certain QB & keeping Clark at his tag of $17 m while doable would eat up most of cap. Texans on other hand can absorb Clowney's tag 16 million and still have oodles of cap. Seattle top three needs as I see is 1 Edge rusher 2 Safety 3. WR. I think Seattle accepted deal as they can get the first at #21 with Brian Burns or Clellin Ferrel and the second at #29. I could see a corner like Murphy here or WRs like Brown as their now 3.92 could bring a safety converted from deep CB class.

In summary, Texans not as "pressured" to move Clowney as Seattle to move Clark. Prior to trade Seahawks had 1.21 and no second round. I think Gaines/O'Brien are willing to move forward with Oline as is with possible additions if Jonah were to fall to 23 [he will not but Texans can project that] and or using 2.54 & 55 and 3.86 to bring in OL to push current starters. I still think Gaines has an offer better than Chiefs and is playing poker for a bigger pot.
 

WolverineFan

Hall of Fame
Seattle isn't using both (or possibly either) of those 1st round picks. They only have 5 picks. They will trade back 2-3 times to get more.
 

zshawn10

All Pro
Sources with the Texans say that general manager Brian Gaine is likely to play it safe with his first-round pick, which is the first time he is selecting for organization. In free agency, Houston added some veterans to weak areas like the secondary and offensive line, but more work is needed for both position groups. Sources with the Texans say two offensive linemen who are top contenders for their first-round pick are Oklahoma tackle/guard Cody Ford and Boston College guard Chris Lindstrom. It sounds like the Texans are higher on Ford, who offers more position flexibility, and they feel he is a better fit in front of Deshaun Watson, as more mobility is necessary to protect the athletic quarterback and his tendency to hold on to the ball for a long time.

In the secondary, the Texans would want a corner in the mold of a young Johnathan Joseph who can run, move with suddenness, and cover longer downfield. They were tight lipped on which corners fit their parameters, but adding more talent to the secondary and offensive line seem to be top of mind for the Texans organization.
https://walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/article/2019-NFL-Draft-Week---Wednesday-Rumors
 

zshawn10

All Pro
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2832566-matt-millers-final-2019-nfl-draft-big-board#slide3


Matt Miller's Final Rankings
OTs

1. Jonah Williams, Alabama
2. Jawaan Taylor, Florida
3. Andre Dillard, Washington State
4. Dalton Risner, Kansas State
5. Kaleb McGary, Washington
6. Tytus Howard, Alabama State
7. Greg Little, Ole Miss
8. Yodny Cajuste, West Virginia
9. Max Scharping, Northern Illinois
10. Chuma Edoga, USC
11. David Edwards, Wisconsin
12. Bobby Evans, Oklahoma
13. Dennis Daley, South Carolina
14. Isaiah Prince, Ohio State
15. Trey Pipkins, Sioux Falls
16. Tyler Roemer, San Diego State
17. Derwin Gray, Maryland
18. Donnell Greene, Minnesota
19. Paul Adams, Missouri
20. Oli Udoh, Elon
21. Yosh Nijman, Virginia Tech
22. William Sweet, North Carolina
23. Jackson Barton, Utah
24. Garrett McGhin, East Carolina
25. Calvin Anderson, Texas
26. Joshua Miles, Morgan State
27. Chidi Okeke, Tennessee State
28. Ethan Greenidge, Villanova
29. Ryan Pope, San Diego State
30. Devon Johnson, Ferris State
31. Koda Martin, Syracuse
32. Alex Bookser, Pittsburgh
33. Brian Wallace, Arkansas
34. Lukayus McNeil, Louisville
35. Ului Lapuaho, BYU
36. Daniel Cooney, San Diego

OG’s
1. Cody Ford, Oklahoma
2. Chris Lindstrom, Boston College
3. Connor McGovern, Penn State
4. Nate Davis, UNC Charlotte
5. Michael Deiter, Wisconsin
6. Michael Jordan, Ohio State
7. Beau Benzschawel, Wisconsin
8. Dru Samia, Oklahoma
9. Ben Powers, Oklahoma
10. Ryan Bates, Penn State
11. Drew Forbes, Southeast Missouri State
12. Shaq Calhoun, Mississippi State
13. Phil Haynes, Wake Forest
14. Hjalte Froholdt, Arkansas
15. Nate Herbig, Stanford
16. Mitch Hyatt, Clemson
17. Zack Bailey, South Carolina
18. Tyler Jones, NC State
19. Brandon Knight, Indiana
20. B.J. Autry, Jacksonville State
21. Trevon Tate, Memphis
22. Martez Ivey, Florida
23. Fred Johnson, Florida
24. Keaton Sutherland, Texas A&M
25. Alex Bars, Notre Dame
26. Joe Lowery, Ohio
27. Bunchy Stallings, Kentucky
28. Marquez Tucker, Southern Utah
29. Iosua Opeta, Weber State
30. Andre James, UCLA
31. Venzell Boulware, Miami
32. Garrett Brumfield, LSU
33. George Asafo-Adjei, Kentucky
34. Brandon Fanaika, Stanford

CBs
1. Greedy Williams, LSU
2. Byron Murphy, Washington
3. Trayvon Mullen, Clemson
4. Rock Ya-Sin, Temple
5. Deandre Baker, Georgia
6. Justin Layne, Michigan State
7. Lonnie Johnson, Kentucky
8. Julian Love, Notre Dame
9. Sean Bunting, Central Michigan
10. Jamel Dean, Auburn
11. Joejuan Williams, Vanderbilt
12. Amani Oruwariye, Penn State
13. David Long, Michigan
14. Kris Boyd, Texas
15. Isaiah Johnson, Houston
16. Jordan Brown, South Dakota State
17. Iman Marshall, USC
18. Blessuan Austin, Rutgers
19. Jimmy Moreland, James Madison
20. Sheldrick Redwine, Miami
21. Corey Ballentine, Washburn
22. Mark Fields, Clemson
23. Michael Jackson, Miami
24. Jordan Miller, Washington
25. Montre Hartage, Northwestern
26. Xavier Crawford, Central Michigan
27. Saivion Smith, Alabama
28. Kendall Sheffield, Ohio State
29. Jamal Peters, Mississippi State
30. Hamp Cheevers, Boston College
31. Blace Brown, Troy
32. Ken Webster, Mississippi
33. Derrick Baity, Kentucky
34. Davante Davis, Texas
35. Rashad Fenton, South Carolina
36. Ryan Pulley, Arkansas
37. Alijah Holder, Stanford
38. Donnie Lewis, Tulane
39. Derrek Thomas, Baylor
40. Clifton Duck, Appalachian State
41. Ka’dar Hollman, Toledo
42. Tyler Horton, Boise State
43. Keisean Nixon, South Carolina
44. Chris Westry, Kentucky
45. Jace Whittaker, Arizona

Safeties
1. Taylor Rapp, Washington
2. Johnathan Abram, Mississippi State
3. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Florida
4. Deionte Thompson, Alabama
5. Nasir Adderley, Delaware
6. Juan Thornhill, Virginia
7. Darnell Savage, Maryland
8. Amani Hooker, Iowa
9. Evan Worthington, Colorado
10. Marquise Blair, Utah
11. Mike Edwards, Kentucky
12. Jaquan Johnson, Miami
13. Will Harris, Boston College
14. Saquan Hampton, Rutgers
15. Malik Gant, Marshall
16. Mike Bell, Fresno State
17. Marvell Tell, USC
18. Andrew Wingard, Wyoming
19. Jonathan Crawford, Indiana
20. Lukas Denis, Boston College
21. Ugo Amadi, Oregon
22. D’Cota Dixon, Wisconsin
23. Mark McLaurin, Mississippi State
24. Darius West, Kentucky
25. Khari Willis, Michigan State
26. John Battle, LSU
27. Zedrick Woods, Mississippi
28. JoJo McIntosh, Washington
29. Donovan Wilson, Texas A&M
30. Adarius Pickett, UCLA
31. Mook Reynolds, Virginia Tech
32. Dre Askew-Henry, West Virginia
33. Delvon Randall, Temple
34. Chris Johnson, North Alabama
35. Garrett Davis, Houston
36. Jah’Shawn Johnson, Texas Tech

RBs
1. Josh Jacobs, Alabama
2. David Montgomery, Iowa State
3. Miles Sanders, Penn State
4. Damien Harris, Alabama
5. Devin Singletary, Florida Atlantic
6. Darrell Henderson, Memphis
7. Mike Weber, Ohio State
8. Trayveon Williams, Texas A&M
9. Justice Hill, Oklahoma State
10. Dexter Williams, Notre Dame
11. Ryquell Armstead, Temple
12. Elijah Holyfield, Georgia
13. Rodney Anderson, Oklahoma
14. Alexander Mattison, Boise State
15. Bryce Love, Stanford
16. Devine Ozigbo, Nebraska
17. Jalin Moore, Appalachian State
18. Karan Higdon, Michigan
19. Myles Gaskin, Washington
20. Benny Snell, Kentucky
21. Jordan Scarlett, Florida
22. Alex Barnes, Kansas State
23. Bruce Anderson, North Dakota State
24. Tony Pollard, Memphis
25. Travis Homer, Miami
26. Wes Hills, Slippery Rock
27. LJ Scott, Michigan State
28. Darwin Thompson, Utah State
29. James Williams, Washington State
30. Nick Brossette, LSU
31. Qadree Ollison, Pittsburgh
32. Jordan Ellis, Virginia
33. Darnell Woolfolk, Army
34. Darrin Hall, Pittsburgh
35. Damarea Crockett, Missouri
36. Kerrith Whyte, Florida Atlantic
37. Jacques Patrick, Florida State

WRs
1. A.J. Brown, Ole Miss
2. N'Keal Harry, Arizona State
3. Marquise Brown, Oklahoma
4. D.K. Metcalf, Ole Miss
5. Deebo Samuel, South Carolina
6. Parris Campbell, Ohio State
7. Hakeem Butler, Iowa State
8. Mecole Hardman, Georgia
9. Terry McLaurin, Ohio State
10. Riley Ridley, Georgia
11. Kelvin Harmon, NC State
12. J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, Stanford
13. Miles Boykin, Notre Dame
14. Emanuel Hall, Missouri
15. Jalen Hurd, Baylor
16. Preston Williams, Colorado State
17. Andy Isabella, Massachusetts
18. KeeSean Johnson, Fresno State
19. Darius Slayton, Auburn
20. David Sills, West Virginia
21. Anthony Johnson, Buffalo
22. Hunter Renfrow, Clemson
23. Gary Jennings, West Virginia
24. Keelan Doss, UC Davis
25. Travis Fulgham, Old Dominion
26. Stanley Morgan, Nebraska
27. Dillon Mitchell, Oregon
28. Tyre Brady, Marshall
29. Greg Dortch, Wake Forest
30. Olabisi Johnson, Colorado State
31. Antoine Wesley, Texas Tech
32. Diontae Johnson, Toledo
33. Lil'Jordan Humphrey, Texas
34. Cody Thompson, Toledo
35. Ashton Dulin, Malone University
36. DaMarkus Lodge, Ole Miss
37. Olamide Zaccheaus, Virginia
38. Alex Wesley, Northern Colorado
39. Felton Davis, Michigan State
40. Johnnie Dixon, Ohio State
41. Jon'Vea Johnson, Toledo
42. Penny Hart, Georgia State
43. Terry Godwin, Georgia
44. Jaylen Smith, Louisville
45. Jamal Custis, Syracuse
46. Jazz Ferguson, Northwestern State
47. Ryan Davis, Auburn
48. John Ursua, Hawaii
49. Jakobi Meyers, NC State
50. Anthony Ratliff-Williams, North Carolina
51. Emmanuel Butler, Northern Arizona
52. Nyqwan Murray, Florida State
53. Jamarius Way, South Alabama
54. Dredrick Snelson, UCF
55. Jovon Durante, Florida Atlantic
56. Trenton Irwin, Stanford
57. DeAndre Thompkins, Penn State
58. Brody Oliver, Colorado School of Mines
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
Think Carolina will be targeting Cody Ford now. Daryl Williams RT missed almost all of last season and former 2nd round pick Taylor Moton solid OT. Think they go Ford and move him inside. With Paradis signed an interior of Ford/Paradis/Turner would be quite nice.

Possibility Dillard could fall to 23 if Bengals or Dolphins pass on him. Will Texans take that chance?
 

cuppacoffee

Resident Grouch
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001027742/article/2019-nfl-draft-believable-things-amid-so-much-misinformation

9) The Texans won't be trading up in Round 1: The Texans have two picks in the second round (Nos. 54 and 55 overall) and four total selections inside the first 86 picks, which has led some to speculate that the organization could use some of that capital to trade up for Washington State's Andre Dillard to fill its massive hole at left tackle. Not happening. With only one year left on the contracts for three of their top four cornerbacks and needs along the offensive line, the Texans simply can't afford to part with those valuable picks for a tackle who isn't considered a top-five talent in the draft.

Hope Zierlien is right about this.

:coffee:
 

IDEXAN

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001027742/article/2019-nfl-draft-believable-things-amid-so-much-misinformation

9) The Texans won't be trading up in Round 1: The Texans have two picks in the second round (Nos. 54 and 55 overall) and four total selections inside the first 86 picks, which has led some to speculate that the organization could use some of that capital to trade up for Washington State's Andre Dillard to fill its massive hole at left tackle. Not happening. With only one year left on the contracts for three of their top four cornerbacks and needs along the offensive line, the Texans simply can't afford to part with those valuable picks for a tackle who isn't considered a top-five talent in the draft.

Hope Zierlien is right about this.

:coffee:
I'd think it would be tough to find a better source than Zierlien when it comes to predicting the Texans intentions for this Draft.
He's in the business and he does live in Houston, so he's probably got gobs of local contacts to the team.
This is only his second Draft as GM for the Texans, and the first Draft that Gains has been responsible for anything higher than a 3rd round pick.
Yep I imagine he'll be quite conservative and not do anything too cute tomorrow night.
 

zshawn10

All Pro
patdstat's notebook for the draft

Expect a Conservative Approach
Brian Gaine is made it clear with comments he is naturally conservative especially in the draft. He has not hidden behind the fact that he would rather have more chances in the selection with multiple picks than package picks to land a single player. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule if a player the Texans covet starts to slide then all bets are off for a potential deal. Gaine is meticulous and is thinker when it comes to building the Texans, looking at situations from all angles. He is not afraid to swing for the fences and take chances but within reason.

Gaine is going to look for value and not become impatient when it comes to the draft. In his first official draft, the Texans trusted their board and ended up landing Justin Reid in the 3rd round and high snap players in Jordan Thomas, Jordan Akins and Keke Coutee whom all had positive moments on the field for the Texans during their rookie campaigns.

Either way, Gaine is going to take the draft for what it is an attempt to come out with as many players as he can.

Texans Will Not Draft Out of Desperation
Desperate for any position is a bit of a stretch in regards to the Texans needs at the moment. If the Texans had to play a game tomorrow, they could actually field a team and a potential starter at every position, and this includes the offensive line. The Texans without question can upgrade position groups, but they are in the area early in the draft to draft according to their board. The Texans will not reach for players and even though Gaine is not former Texans general manager Rick Smith they have similar thoughts on reaching. It is the same reason it took a while for the Texans to finally land a quarterback in the draft since their grades on certain quarterbacks did not match where they were in the draft.

Gaine understands that when reaching for prospects is not optimal and keeping the Texans out of bad situations is a must. Just think last season he trusted his board and landed a clear cut foundational player in Justin Reid and at the time that position was NOT a need. Selecting Reid with Kareem Jackson, Tyrann Mathieu and Andre Hal who were all in-house on the roster. Reid was clearly a selection based on their board and not of clear need at the time.


Shopping List for the NFL Draft
The Texans have done heavy leg work on the offensive tackle, running back and cornerback groups coming out in the NFL Draft. There has been plenty of discussion on the Texans need to workout, meet and bring in for visits to prepare for prospects. If there is one thing for sure, the Texans have combed a good portion of the draft class in these positions giving them clear cut pictures on who exactly fits what the team needs at that particular position.

The Texans will come out with an offensive tackle, cornerback and running back at the very least while the rest of the selections will rely on value. It seems clear that those will be three positions that the Texans will make sure they land.

Also, another position that is high on the Texans wish list is another pass rusher, and that is not surprising. Especially with how much teams throw the ball and force the Texans into defensive sub packages, the Texans want as many rushers as they can get on the roster.

New Mentality for the Cornerback Group
Signs have been posting to a changing of the guard at a specific position and the Texans are looking for a different skill set cornerback type in 2019. After the season ended in his final press conference of the season, O’Brien mentioned the need for man-to-man cornerbacks.

“You need corners that can play man.,” O’Brien explained.

Gaine even explained the need for man coverage players after the signing of Bradley Roby, “We knew we had to upgrade some speed and some ability to play man-to-man coverage and a player like Bradley Roby fit that criteria for us.”

Also, Tashaun Gipson mentioned the Texans are a man-dominant team, “Just what they want to do, this is a man-dominant team,” Gipson explained. “I know they like to run man. It just fits my scheme, that fits what I do.”

The biggest eye-opener was Gipson saying the Texans are a “man-dominant team” which is not accurate since the arrival of O’Brien in 2015 and how Romeo Crennel runs his defense. Which leaves the Texans looking for a different type of cornerback for this year’s draft compared to previous O’Brien Era cornerbacks. The Texans are primarily a Cover-2 or Cover-4 with tiny sample sizes of man-to-man coverage. The Texans have made it clear that is a change in operation on how they want to play in 2019, how much is not known but they are snagging the personnel to make it a possibility. It started with Bradley Roby, Johnathan Joseph might have enough left in the tank to play that way, Aaron Colvin was a press-man player from the nickel in Jacksonville, and now it is up to Gaine to find prospects that match that criteria.

Players like Greedy Williams (LSU), David Long (Michigan), Julian Love (Notre Dame), Kris Boyd (Texas), Mark Fields (Clemson) and Justin Layne (Michigan State) fit that mold of press man cornerbacks entering the draft.


Players of Interest for the Texans
  • Offensive tackles Andre Dillard and Cody Ford are apparently at the top of the wish list for the Texans and rightfully so. Dillard is a left tackle that played in a pass-happy offense with Washington State giving him the plenty of reps at pass blocking. Dillard is considered one of the top left tackles in this year’s group which is not a surprise. The Texans also value Cody Ford’s pedigree playing for Oklahoma, who have produced some solid lineman, and more importantly showing his versatility. Playing both left guard and moving to right tackle to block for mobile quarterback Kyler Murray. Those traits that Ford showed for the Sooners match with the Texans overall mentality of players. The more they can do the better and Ford is that type of player.

  • Alabama State’s Tytus Howard is also on the Texans radar, and the organization knows if they do not select him before their two picks in the second round, they might not have a shot to land an offensive tackle that intrigues them. The Texans worked out Howard, brought him in for a visit and also send offensive line coach Mike Devlin to have a one on one setting with him that included a workout and a dinner to get to know Howard better. If there is one thing that the Texans do that they are looking for answers on, it is sending coaches to meet individually with players. The Texans made the complete list of checks on Howard, and it should not go unnoticed.

  • The Texans are interested in the safety group and rightfully so after the retirement of Andre Hal. The organization countered with bringing in Maryland’s Darnell Savage Jr. for a visit and worked out Florida hybrid defensive back Chauncey Gardner-Johnson in a private setting in Florida. The Texans know they have to find a safety but they will let the board fall accordingly and if it doesn’t play out, therefore, they could turn to the free agent market to be in a veteran presence for the season.

  • They have answers on cornerback LSU's Greedy Williams and if he is available in the first round the Texans. They met with Williams at the NFL Combine, and they have the picture of him and how he fits with the organization. Williams would be a system fit for the Texans in terms of man-to-man coverage and having a veteran like Johnathan Joseph, Aaron Colvin, Bradley Roby, and Briean Boddy-Calhoun could help Williams transition to the NFL and most importantly not rush him into the lineup.

  • The Texans brought in Mississippi State edge rusher Montez Sweat for a closer look with team doctors. Sweat had a heart issue discovered by doctors during the draft process which is leading to a potential drop out of the first round. The Texans had Sweat meet with defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel and outside linebacker coach John Pagano going over film and more importantly watching how Jadeveon Clowney is utilized in the defense. Sweat enjoyed his visit with the Texans especially the coaching staff and catching up with former teammates Jordan Thomas and Martinas Rankin.

  • The Texans did heavy leg work on Louisiana Tech edge rusher Jaylon Ferguson who set the FBS record for 45 career sacks. There were some concerns with his Pro Day performance in terms of change of direction but the fact that over a quarter of his plays he made in college went for a loss of yardage has the Texans attention. Red flags are surrounding Ferguson who had his combine invite initially pulled due to a simple battery conviction after a fight at McDonald’s his freshman year at Louisiana Tech. The Texans have got the extra mile to take a look at one of the most productive pass rushers in this year’s draft.

  • Texas A&M running back Trayvon Williams led the SEC in rushing and can pass block with the best of them. Williams thought the Texans were one of the top three teams showing him the most interest during the draft process. Add in a workout and a meeting, and the Texans have done extensive work on the hard-nosed runner from College Station. The Texans are looking for a running back to add with Lamar Miller and D’Onta Foreman heading into next season. Williams gives a real spread option as a back with his ability to hold up in pass protection and catch the football out of the backfield.

  • The Texans are enamored with height and weight players that are dynamic athletes and if that means waiting a season or two to develop they are okay with that. The Texans like the physical traits that cornerbacks Isaiah Johnson (Houston) and Justin Layne (Michigan State) offer for the position. Johnson started his career with the Cougars as a wide receiver and has only been playing cornerback for just over two seasons. While Layne, arrived at the Spartans as a wide receiver, was switched to cornerback midway through his freshman season and played over two seasons at the position. They might not be ready to start right now but developing them for more prominent roles down the road are a realistic option.

  • The Texans signed A.J. McCarron to be their backup to Deshaun Watson heading into 2019, but they remain on the hunt for another quarterback. The Texans used Trace McSorley in a private workout to see offensive players work on the field in a controlled setting, but they like the athletic profile of the quarterback and his overall competitive nature on the football field. The Texans need quarterbacks for off-season work, and training camp and McSorley matches the full upgrade in athleticism the organization wants at the position compared to past seasons.
https://footballmaven.io/texans/news/notebook-a-closer-look-at-the-houston-texans-heading-to-the-2019-nfl-draft-9aPhG9i_jUSmGhHBipCcVA/
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Seattle isn't using both (or possibly either) of those 1st round picks. They only have 5 picks. They will trade back 2-3 times to get more.
IDK, they don't need much and could use each to lock in a need spot on defense. Here is comment supporting my view:
The main needs for the Seahawks are on defense, especially in the secondary and on the edge. Luckily for Seattle, what does this draft have a lot of? A ton of corners, safeties and edge rushers. Why not get both when you’ve got the picks to do it.
According to Mel Kiper’s Big Board, there’s 16 edge rushers and defensive backs in top 40 alone. It makes sense for Seattle so go ahead and keep both of the picks, get what you need while you’ve got the picks to do it.
https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/article229606294.html

1.21 can bring quality DL to replace CLark and 29 a very good corner. They have 3.92 + 4.124 & 5.159 to resolve other spots. Of course as I keep saying about Houston if a great offer comes over the phone---
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001027742/article/2019-nfl-draft-believable-things-amid-so-much-misinformation

9) The Texans won't be trading up in Round 1: The Texans have two picks in the second round (Nos. 54 and 55 overall) and four total selections inside the first 86 picks, which has led some to speculate that the organization could use some of that capital to trade up for Washington State's Andre Dillard to fill its massive hole at left tackle. Not happening. With only one year left on the contracts for three of their top four cornerbacks and needs along the offensive line, the Texans simply can't afford to part with those valuable picks for a tackle who isn't considered a top-five talent in the draft.

Hope Zierlien is right about this.

:coffee:
I agree 100 percent although I can see a trade down but prefer using top four picks to get starters for 2020.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I know we are focusing on top three rounds but here are some interesting players I've researched that could be available after draft that could impact Texans roster. Parenthesis is where I have them coming off board of all 32 teams.

CB/safety Donnie Layne (6) CB Clifton Duck CB Keisan Nixon
DE John Cominsky
WR/RB Tony Pollard (6-7)
OT Joe Lowery OT Trey Pipkins OT/C Aaron Brewer
Safe Christopher Johnson
RB Darwin Thompson (7)
ILB Josh Corcoran ILB Sutton SMith (5)
OLB Maxx Crosby (6)
QB Justice Hanson
 

cuppacoffee

Resident Grouch
I know we are focusing on top three rounds but here are some interesting players I've researched that could be available after draft that could impact Texans roster. Parenthesis is where I have them coming off board of all 32 teams.

CB/safety Donnie Layne (6) CB Clifton Duck CB Keisan Nixon
DE John Cominsky
WR/RB Tony Pollard (6-7)
OT Joe Lowery OT Trey Pipkins OT/C Aaron Brewer
Safe Christopher Johnson
RB Darwin Thompson (7)
ILB Josh Corcoran ILB Sutton SMith (5)
OLB Maxx Crosby (6)
QB Justice Hanson

Nice work BB

I hope our scouting staff is as busy as you are 'beating the bushes' looking for players.

I had looked at Pipkins but the rest are new to me. Zeirlein rates him as a good development prospect and projects him a rd 4 possibility, ps player.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/trey-pipkins?id=32195049-5057-9461-c1e8-051341a4a8d1

Pollard might catch Gaines eye if he still seeks out special team players like he did last year.

:coffee:
 
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