Mangler
Toro de España
What the hell are you talking about?
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Texans and the 2019 Season....
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Steelb has the link
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Why not the OL coach?
Because obrien hired him and thinks he's doing a great job.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/texans...8/bill-obrien-keep-texans-coaching-staff/amp/
"Mike Devlin has done an excellent job of working with that offensive line every single day to chip away, get better and improve.”
He's just poking at SteelB for calling the podcast an 'article'
Wait a minute, you mean Jared Goff wasn't hand picked by McVae & he was still able to coach him?
I want a coach like that.
# withyourmindseye
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
While I agree with you that BoB is not the coach McVay is, this narrative about the AFCS being a weak or mediocre division needs to stop. The AFCS has been a hot division for several seasons now and last season was the only one to have 3 out of 4 winning teams. Its no where close to the free meal the Pats have had for almost 10 years now and the Saints have had for 2-3. Even the Chiefs have really only had to worry about the Brocs and that has been lost when they lost Manning.
So talk about BoB all you want but lets not belittle the team and their efforts by writing it off to just a weak division. That may have been the case the first 1-3 seasons but not any more. Just because the talking heads on ESPN or wherever don't give the division any respect because none of the teams have the fan base of say a Packers or Steelers or the dynasty of a NE or is the new league golden child because they want some of that LA money like the Rams doesn't mean its automatically horrible.
Was the defense that sucked against QB's not named Bortles/Os/Gabbert doing pretty well? How about an undermaned offense that put up 34 in Indy/Killed the Dolphins etc... the offense actually put up points against bad defenses until Fuller went down. Kinda like RAC's defense struggling against good QB's?
I point this out for 2 reasons, 1 Football is a team game. 2. The team overachieved when you take into account talent level vs record.
So now OBrien can't score points if the second WR get hurt?
PFF top 10 defenses
http://www.nfl.com/videos/pff/0ap3000001007156/PFF-Top-10-highest-graded-defenses-of-2018
Texans #2
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
To be fair when you only have two people that apparently can catch the ball and one goes down its not hard for the other team to figure out where most of the throws are going to go to. Credit to Watson and Nuk for still being about to complete passes even though the other side knew who he was going to throw to. It got better when Coutee came on board but then he went down to so now we are on what, plan C or is it plan D?
Also yeah the stats for our defense look good but are you really going to say that they were at all good against any top shelf QB? I remember before every game with Brady or Luck or X these boards saying how that QB was going to light us up. Well they did and whom's job, on the field, was it to stop them from doing that?
Correct when you have no depth.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Every fu@king year, "no depth." The Texans have depth just like every other team.
One injury derailing the offense doesn't exactly inspire confidence
Well defenses usually don't do well against top shelf QBs. That's why they are top shelf.
Overall, I think the defense was not perfect but easily top 10.
Also the offense was still pretty meh after trading for Thomas. They also had the receiving rookie TEs OBrien didn't use.
Offense left a lot to be desired, but so did the defense. ST were better
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Steelers shut Brady down pretty good in their game, KC shut Luck down in their game. If a defense can't stop, or at least slow down, a top shelf QB then you can not call them a successful defense as that is mostly what you will face in playoffs and Super Bowls. I agree on the TEs, the argument could be made that they were needed to block but likewise the argument could be made that two more targets might have allowed Watson to get rid of the ball faster. We'll never know.
I think our defense was good but at the same time I was disappointed. We have invested a lot into the defense and by this point we should have been almost one of those teams that can win on defense alone. The big game where it mattered most, against Philly, the defense lost that game. Offense put up 30 points but the Defense couldn't even slow Foles down. That happens but if we are going to crucify the offense for the Colts game then we need to acknowledge that the only reason we played that game was because the defense didn't do their jobs.
The Texans had 1 of those TDs because the defense forced a turnover at the Philly 5.
I agree the defense wasn't as good towards the end of the year.
But saying they both need to improve misses the point that the defense was easily above average and the offense sucked. There's a big gap in what improvement they need
I think most everyone acknowledges that the offense sucked in that playoff game and more
Really, so the Texans have a Ingram or Anderson backing up Miller? They have the depth at RB the Pats have?
OBrien wanted Miller and blue
Hopefully this changes
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Texans will face some stiffer competition next year and this raises some fears for their chances of reaching the postseason.
However, several things will work in their favour to repeat.
Our young QB should be the better for a full season of experience and will also have the preseason to further work on his game and cohesion with his offense.
He should have more offensive weapons at his disposal with the return of injured players and FO should bring in some help for his oline. This in turn will help the running game which showed some potential at times last season so a return to that form will give Watson some relief from having to pass so often.
I fully expect a big improvement on the O and our defense should also benefit from a more productive offense as well so a strong showing will not surprise.
If they can stay healthy and/or acquire some depth in key areas then they should be competitive.
However, several things will work in their favour to repeat.
Our young QB should be the better for a full season of experience and will also have the preseason to further work on his game and cohesion with his offense.
He should have more offensive weapons at his disposal with the return of injured players and FO should bring in some help for his oline. This in turn will help the running game which showed some potential at times last season so a return to that form will give Watson some relief from having to pass so often.
I fully expect a big improvement on the O and our defense should also benefit from a more productive offense as well so a strong showing will not surprise.
If they can stay healthy and/or acquire some depth in key areas then they should be competitive.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Depends on Foreman if he recovers well enough from his injury.
If he doesn't, then I fully expect another addition to the RB corp.
I wouldn't count on Foreman
Mangler
Toro de España
Hit play while using a stenograph...
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Yeah, sad but true.
That's why I want Darrell Henderson in this draft.
All round back with great cuts and has wheels.
Mangler
Toro de España
Touché K dog, touché...
This is one of the great unsolved mysteries of TexansTalk.
Does steelb have a stenograph? Does he think everyone has one? Does he regularly tell people to read articles he's never read?
We may never know.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Is stenograph like a sonogram?
Tell you something about SteelB - anyman who drinks beer with his dog is OK by me.
I dunno wonder what his drinking buddys breed is ? I've got a schnauzer so surely he'd like beer.
So my mind said read instead of listen to and you make a big deal out of this. Did you listen?
I have 3 dogs 2 of them drink craft beer with me.
A Lab/Pit mix- Boy
A Lab- Girl
The Great Pyrenees doesn't really like beer although she will drink some.
The other 2 lap it up like water.
I prefer Meghan myself
zshawn10
All Pro
State of the Texans@SOTTexans
https://twitter.com/SOTTexans/status/1093582918067335168
Cal McNair Knows the Houston #Texans Have the Resources to Improve the '19 Roster https://footballmaven.io/texans/news/cal-mcnair-knows-the-houston-texans-have-the-resources-to-improve-the-19-roster-gj1DPUFhm0qDPQBIZu7JFw/ … via @SOTTexans
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12:51 PM - Feb 7, 2019
Bold predictions for all 32 nfl teams
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https://twitter.com/SOTTexans/status/1093582918067335168
Cal McNair Knows the Houston #Texans Have the Resources to Improve the '19 Roster https://footballmaven.io/texans/news/cal-mcnair-knows-the-houston-texans-have-the-resources-to-improve-the-19-roster-gj1DPUFhm0qDPQBIZu7JFw/ … via @SOTTexans
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12:51 PM - Feb 7, 2019
Bold predictions for all 32 nfl teams
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Thorn
Dirty Old Man
From the article:
Dean Pees?
Well I don't know, can't he?
Where's Dean?
Peeing
How's Dean?
Pretty pissed off.
austins23
Hall of Fame
I have two dogs that will drink with me (my profile pic)...
A Lab/Pit mix - Bailey
Great Dane - Gypsy
Bailey is the bigger drinker of the two. Loves it. Gypsy is more of just a social drinker.
Shishkabob
All Pro
our defense was above average when playing the likes of Case Keenum, Dak Prescott, Josh Allen/ Nathan Peterman, Blake Bortles, and Brock Osweiler. Luck wiped the floor with them 3 times, allowed 400+ yards and 4 TDs to Nick Foles, got torched by Eli Manning somehow, made Jets fans actually start believing in Darnold again, and after a stellar 1st half against Mayfield made him look great in the 2nd half. Our defense feasted off of turnovers this year which is a stat the usually isn't replicated year to year. Our defense was good against the run, but ranked among the bottom against the pass. We got lucky we faced a slew of teams with weak QBs who couldn't expose our defenses biggest weakness, but yea lets ignore that because on paper they seem fine.....
Our offense ranked 11th in PPG, above average not really in the sucky category
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Ah but you're forgetting the most important stat that tips the balance. Offense was coached by Bill O'Brien and the defense wasn't. Against that fact no mere numbers matter.
Three of those top ten defenses from the AFCSouth
Yes, all defenses will do worse against good offenses. The question is were the Texans unsually worse? I'd like to see more data on how other good defenses did against these teams. After all, the NFL had an offensive explosion this year. Football Outsiders does adjust for opponent strength and ranked the Texans D 7th, not as high as PFF.
Also, the defense scored several points and also gave the Texans favorable field position all season (#1 starting position according to football outsiders). There were also overtime points scored.
From estimated offensive points scored, they ranked 15th.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/offensive-points-per-game
Offensive TDs per game they ranked 20th.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/offensive-touchdowns-per-game
Red zone TD scoring percentage they were 29th.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct
They were, however, 2nd in field goals made per game, but as noted above the defense consistently put the offense in good starting field position.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/field-goals-made-per-game
Max
Veteran
Curious if anyone knows the financial implications for the team after Bob Mcnair's passing? I understand that his wife Janice now owns the team and Cal is in charge of daily operations but does anyone know what happens when Janice passes? There's 4 kids, will Cal be the new owner? Is the inheritance split 4 ways? If so, and Cal inherits the team, it seems likely that the team would make up the majority of his inheritance and not leave a lot of liquid funds available to run the team. Is $ set aside in a trust for the operation of the team?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I'd guess it would depend on how well the kids get along. If they get along well what I would say is they leave the operations to a Cal and he just cuts them a check every year for their part. That's how my mother in law's family handles their farm. Her brother works it and takes out operation cost and his portion then the rest is spilt among the other 3. If they don't get along then Cal might just offer to buy them out and become the sole owner.
All this is assuming that there isn't a will laying out exact instructions and if there is and somebody was saying what's in it they would either be full of crap or breaking the law on lawyer/client confidence. This is just my thoughts based on my experience, maybe Cak can shed some light on it from a legal point of view.
Max
Veteran
Thinking about it more and I don't think anyone will know how this plays out until it happens (other than the family). It seems like a possibility that Cal may not have the $ to run the team and could have a sense of urgency to get things done while his mom is alive. Just a thought.
austins23
Hall of Fame
I think I saw a stat during one of the games that the Texans had scored the most points after a turnover?? Maybe it was just against the team they were playing against....not sure.