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Would you guys be on board with Mike McCarthy?

thunderkyss said:
You'd think they'd ask how good could he be with Watson?
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They should. Why not list many more? BB without Brady? Dingy without Manning? Getting away from quarterbacks for a minute, how about Gruden in 99 without the stellar defense? I mean the list just might be endless. How far should I go? You really have to be lucky with both the coach and having good players In order to have a successful team.
 
Yeah as really Rodgers ran McCarthy out of town. And really Rodgers now has a big head. But McCarthy wants to be a H.C. not an assistant!
 
Shishkabob said:
Also Aaron Jones is a stud that has been criminally under used there
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Extra emphasis on this. The talent gap between Jones and the next dude is beyond noticeable. There’s either something personal or this is a huge mark against McCarthy.
 
DocBar said:
Talk about stale, predictable offenses. The only thing exciting about the Packer's offense the last few years has been Rodgers' ability to ad-lib on broken plays. I'd just as soon pass on McCarthy.
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This is something I heard them talking about on 610 the other day when the same question was brought up about whether the Texans should bring in McCarthy as OC next season. It was discussed about how his Offense hasn't changed or evolved and they run the same plays they have for as long as McCarthy was there in GB. I don't think he would be a good fit here in Houston. I'll pass!
 
Maybe Rodgers does not care about winning as much as other all time great quarterbacks did. Some other all time greats are still playing and they still care about winning today.
 
Texas Jake said:
I think he still cares about winning. I sounds like the problem may be whether he is coachable or not.
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But sometimes you have to be coachabable and adapt in the later years of your career. You probably would wh more that way.
 
Texas Jake said:
I think he still cares about winning. I sounds like the problem may be whether he is coachable or not.
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but does he care as much about winning as say someone like Brady? Brady has always taken well below his market value so they could field a competitive team around him. Rodgers' last 2 contracts have been record breaking for the highest paid position in the league. If winning was his ultimate goal why handicap his team like that? Not saying he doesn't care at all about winning, but it isn't priority #1 for him.
 
Shishkabob said:
but does he care as much about winning as say someone like Brady? Brady has always taken well below his market value so they could field a competitive team around him. Rodgers' last 2 contracts have been record breaking for the highest paid position in the league. If winning was his ultimate goal why handicap his team like that? Not saying he doesn't care at all about winning, but it isn't priority #1 for him.
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Few are as focused and dedicated to winning as Brady is.
 
Shishkabob said:
that's why I have a hard time hating the guy like many do. Not many people out there would sacrifice millions and millions just to be competitive year in and year out
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I agree it should be an easier decision when you are making more money than most other people.
 
Shishkabob said:
that's why I have a hard time hating the guy like many do. Not many people out there would sacrifice millions and millions just to be competitive year in and year out
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Meh. His wife's career earnings DWARF his. Makes those pesky decisions easier to make.

Plus, being a HoF QB, considered by many as the GOAT makes these things pay well too..
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Shishkabob said:
that's why I have a hard time hating the guy like many do. Not many people out there would sacrifice millions and millions just to be competitive year in and year out
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Helps that his wife is probably making even more
 
Shishkabob said:
one thing I have learned in life is the vast majority of people can never have enough money.
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My experience has been different...after getting the basics in some level of comfort, the majority of the people I meet don't do everything they can to make more money, even if that person would like more money than he or she has now.
 
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gary said:
Maybe Rodgers does not care about winning as much as other all time great quarterbacks did. Some other all time greats are still playing and they still care about winning today.
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Maybe Rodgers wants to win and knows McCarthy isn't the and realizes that McCarthy isn't the HC to get the job done. I think Rodgers is tired of carrying that franchise.

One SB in Rodgers career is the kind of track record that would make me never hire McCarthy.
 
steelbtexan said:
Maybe Rodgers wants to win and knows McCarthy isn't the and realizes that McCarthy isn't the HC to get the job done. I think Rodgers is tired of carrying that franchise.

One SB in Rodgers career is the kind of track record that would make me never hire McCarthy.
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My only rebuttal for this is how much was Thompson hindering the team with his don't participate in FA philosophy? Their drafts over recent years have not been good, so they had no talent coming in from either the draft or FA. Unfortunately it's kind of the situation we have with OB, how good of a coach is he actually and how much did a GM doing his job poorly effect him? I agree only winning 1 ring with Rodgers is a very bad look, idk if I can squarely put the blame on McCarthy and damn him from being a HC. He is after all the man who developed Rodgers into what he is today, I think he could be good for a team with a young QB or team planning on drafting a young QB this year.

That being said I don't think I'd want him as the HC of the Texans, because while I think he is a good or decent HC, and probably wouldn't suffer to many bad seasons with him I dont know how many great seasons he can bring you
 
steelbtexan said:
Maybe Rodgers wants to win and knows McCarthy isn't the and realizes that McCarthy isn't the HC to get the job done. I think Rodgers is tired of carrying that franchise.

One SB in Rodgers career is the kind of track record that would make me never hire McCarthy.
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Keep in mind that the defense has been depleted several times. They have lost important players on offense and defense but you might be right. I’d like someone to take off some of pressure off of OB though. I think we should just admire great coaches and quarterbacks teams who have won the whole thing because it’s not easy and mastering it is quite an achievement and it requires working hard together.
 
I differ with apparently many if not most here.While I would not hand McCarthy a job based on the last couple of years, I would damn sure make it a point interview a head coach with a Superbowl and experience with Hall of Fame QBs who seem to have play style/skill closer than not to the guy I am trying to develop.
 
steelbtexan said:
Maybe Rodgers wants to win and knows McCarthy isn't the and realizes that McCarthy isn't the HC to get the job done. I think Rodgers is tired of carrying that franchise.

One SB in Rodgers career is the kind of track record that would make me never hire McCarthy.
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As a HC, probably not. But as an OC if he could buy into OB's philosophy, I think we could do worse. Houston fans would be doing back flips for even 1 SB and his track record is pretty good overall. 9 playoff appearances in 12 years with 7 division titles in GB and 3 NFC championship games with 1 SB. Pllus a pretty good tenure at OC with NO
 
Would it mean OB is a good coach if the Texans wh the Super Bowl this season? Probably not but it would mean he is keeping his job for now. Just saying. Think about how coaching jobs in any sport might go downhill before you even know what happened.
 
gary said:
Maybe Rodgers does not care about winning as much as other all time great quarterbacks did. Some other all time greats are still playing and they still care about winning today.
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Have you watched him play? 112% every game. I'm sure it's not his want to that's the problem.

Maybe he's too stubborn to get out of his way, but he wants to win.
 
thunderkyss said:
Have you watched him play? 112% every game. I'm sure it's not his want to that's the problem.

Maybe he's too stubborn to get out of his way, but he wants to win.
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He should get out of his own way at this late stage of his own career eventually in order to help himself. Players would like to win yes. How many are willing to change and not be stubborn enough to prolong his football career? I think he has to be and the time is now. We’ll see what happens.
 
gary said:
He should get out of his own way at this late stage of his own career eventually in order to help himself. Players would like to win yes. How many are willing to change and not be stubborn enough to prolong his football career? I think he has to be and the time is now. We’ll see what happens.
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So you think Rodgers is done?
 
McCarthy has failed to build an offense around the best off-script QB in the game. What makes anybody think he's going to do any better with our off-script QB.

I think OB is doing just fine right now, maybe they can use that vacant OC title to go out and grab some top end, proven position coaching help given NFL rules on tampering.
 
welsh texan said:
McCarthy has failed to build an offense around the best off-script QB in the game. What makes anybody think he's going to do any better with our off-script QB.

I think OB is doing just fine right now, maybe they can use that vacant OC title to go out and grab some top end, proven position coaching help given NFL rules on tampering.
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When they gave Rodgers weapons they won.

We have a few weapons
 
gary said:
So getting a coach and a G.M. who would get him some weopons then that would help him then.
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I haven't watched GB this year. But what I heard on NFLN is that McCarthy is being scapegoated. They got a new GM last year & it's too early to blame him even though it's obvious there is a lack of talent around Rodgers.
 
gary said:
So getting a coach and a G.M. who would get him some weopons then that would help him then.
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It wasn't McCarthy's job to get weapons, and they replaced their incredibly out dated GM who did not believe in free agency, but instead thought all talent should be developed in house.
 
thunderkyss said:
I haven't watched GB this year. But what I heard on NFLN is that McCarthy is being scapegoated. They got a new GM last year & it's too early to blame him even though it's obvious there is a lack of talent around Rodgers.
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Are you talking about Eliot Wolfe?

I'm sure I heard that name somewhere.
 
thunderkyss said:
I haven't watched GB this year. But what I heard on NFLN is that McCarthy is being scapegoated. They got a new GM last year & it's too early to blame him even though it's obvious there is a lack of talent around Rodgers.
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Knowing this the Packers have to have a good offseason. Get new players either through the draft or free agency and then see about making a run. As far as McCarthy getting a job here I would at least look into it but I believe he’ll get a head coaching job just based on his Super Bowl successes alone and the jobs which I think will be opening up after the season ends.
 
Shishkabob said:
old GM was Ted Thompson
new GM is Brian Gutekunst(he was actually in Houston to interview for our GM job, but the Packers called and offered him theirs the night before the interview)
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He knows this or atleast should know if he's going to be posting in this thread.

He just likes stirring the pot.
 
Shishkabob said:
It wasn't McCarthy's job to get weapons, and they replaced their incredibly out dated GM who did not believe in free agency, but instead thought all talent should be developed in house.
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Isn't that essentially the group pulling the Browns out of the long term crapper?
 
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