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All encompassing Rick Smith thread

Earl34 said:
Interesting that you highlighted some of the comments in the article and assign it to Smith, but didn't touch the following. Who else should take a bow with Smith? I still don't understand why we are still playing this game of "Pin the Blame". Failures by Smith and O'Brien got the Texans to this point.

"It's definitely a lot easier when you feel like the coaches trust you more and you don't have to look over your shoulder," Bouye said. "This year, was more about focusing on what I can do to help the team and not worry about this or that.

"I've learned the scheme, and that's why the plays are starting to come. I got much better from a technique standpoint and physically. My ceiling is still high."
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The coaches must've trusted him, because they played Bouye more than any CB. Are you saying RAC didn't do a good job with Bouye when the next statement is he got much better from a technique standpoint.

That article is kind of double speak in my mind. Or maybe Bouye wasn't clear with his thoughts. One thing is for sure now Bouye wanted to comeback to the Texans.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
His technique/performance certainly took a jump his last year as a Texan. I'm sure that his coach told him that he was no good, just the lowly 4th man in a bastion of talent.
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If this happened BOB and staff would've been fired and Ricky probably would still be here. Or both Ricky/BOB would be gone.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
After 3 back injuries in 4 years, Romo at 27 years old was never going to coming back.........and stay back. Jerry Jones knew that, their medical staff knew that........and Romo knew that. That's why a decision to go to the booth was so easy and so predictable.
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BTW, the Cowboys did not make the playoffs in the 2016-17 season. Romo shortly thereafter was into hot and heavy negotiations with CBS (these 2 parties were already thinking in terms of trying to bring Romo in as far as 2015). Looks like the only ones unaware of the level of hot pursuit by CBS and the captive interest by Romo were the Texans management.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
His technique/performance certainly took a jump his last year as a Texan. I'm sure that his coach told him that he was no good, just the lowly 4th man in a bastion of talent.
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The Texans tried to sign Bouye before the season. So, I can easily see that comment being made when they were negotiating before the season. In fact, if the secondary stayed healthy, he would have been the 4th CB. I doubt that comment was made after the season. No objective person would think the Texans would offer that contract to their 4th best CB.
 
steelbtexan said:
The coaches must've trusted him, because they played Bouye more than any CB. Are you saying RAC didn't do a good job with Bouye when the next statement is he got much better from a technique standpoint.

That article is kind of double speak in my mind. Or maybe Bouye wasn't clear with his thoughts. One thing is for sure now Bouye wanted to comeback to the Texans.
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Maybe it was not directed at RAC and more towards the DB coach from Penn State.

I didn't say RAC didn't do a good job. I consider a RAC a great DC. Cloak is dissecting an article and blaming Smith for something an agent probably said to get his client to take a larger contract while ignoring what Bouye explicitly said about the coaching staff.

I'm saying be objective. He wanted to come back to the Texans and they wanted him back. But he still took the Jags' offer.
 
Earl34 said:
Maybe it was not directed at RAC and more towards the DB coach from Penn State.

I didn't say RAC didn't do a good job. I consider a RAC a great DC. Cloak is dissecting an article and blaming Smith for something an agent probably said to get his client to take a larger contract while ignoring what Bouye explicitly said about the coaching staff.

I'm saying be objective.
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I wasn't talking about your objectivity, You asked a fair question.

I was more referring to the article and what Bouye was saying. It seems to me that Bouye was knocking the DC/CB's coach and he played more snaps and improved enough to get a huge contract playing and learning under those guys.

Of course it looks like BOB may agree that Bouye was right, since he fired Butler. What's so perplexing to me is that Midget got promoted after the S play we saw last yr.
 
steelbtexan said:
I wasn't talking about your objectivity, You asked a fair question.

I was more referring to the article and what Bouye was saying. It seems to me that Bouye was knocking the DC/CB's coach and he played more snaps and improved enough to get a huge contract playing and learning under those guys.

Of course it looks like BOB may agree that Bouye was right, since he fired Butler. What's so perplexing to me is that Midget got promoted after the S play we saw last yr.
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LOL. We agree! I was wondering about Cloak's objectivity when he ignored what Bouye said about the coaching staff.
 
powda said:
Fair assuming you said the same last offseason (did you? Post a link.) Did you also want Romo and does signing Bouye to a 67.5 million dollar contract prevent that from happening?
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I didn't want Romo anywhere near this team. I thought it would be the biggest waste of money since Osweiler. Furthermore, since RS seemed to think his assembled OL talent was capable of protecting the Texans QB's...I laughed out loud when the team thought this unit would keep Romo out of wheelchair for life.
 
eriadoc said:
Buoye may not be Revis in his prime, but he's better than the 2017 versions of JJo, KJax, and Kevin Johnson. Foresight and proper planning is a big part of the GM job.
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You're not asking for "foresight" you're asking for a GM, any GM, to accurately predict the future.
That's not "foresight", that's crystal balling.
LOL
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Why did the Jaguars and Bears think he was worth top 10 money? We're their scouts / GM's blind and decided to over-shop based on his 1 season of abbreviated success? No matter what we the fans or RS thought, the right decision was made by the Jaguars while the Texans must go back to the board and hope to find another Bouye.
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did you see the Bears secondary?? Even now, can you name their CBs without googling. They need serious defensive help.
:D
And Jacksonville was looking for a compliment to Jalen Ramsey - who is still the #1CB on the Jags not Bouye. So when Bouye hit the market they wanted in on the bidding war.
We had a top flight F/A CB in Joseph and two high draft choice CBs in Jackson and Johnson in 2016. You wanted them to pay for a fourth?? This with Hopkins extension coming up.

Y'all need to think logically.
 
Earl34 said:
The Texans tried to sign Bouye before the season. So, I can easily see that comment being made when they were negotiating before the season. In fact, if the secondary stayed healthy, he would have been the 4th CB. I doubt that comment was made after the season. No objective person would think the Texans would offer that contract to their 4th best CB.
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I've pointed this out more than once. But folks looking for reasons to bash Rick Smith keep ignoring it.

I wonder how many of today's detractors are ON RECORD as wanting to pay Bouye top ten CB money back when we offered to extend his rookie contract.

and I'd like to see some posts/links for proof please.
 
ObsiWan said:
did you see the Bears secondary?? Even now, can you name their CBs without googling. They need serious defensive help.
:D
And Jacksonville was looking for a compliment to Jalen Ramsey - who is still the #1CB on the Jags not Bouye. So when Bouye hit the market they wanted in on the bidding war.
We had a top flight F/A CB in Joseph and two high draft choice CBs in Jackson and Johnson in 2016. You wanted them to pay for a fourth?? This with Hopkins extension coming up.

Y'all need to think logically.
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Ricky boxed himself in.

Big contracts to an aging Joseph and an avg Jackson, plus being unlucky in KJo getting hurt and most likely never being the player he was drafted to, put the Texans in this position. BTW, I wouldn't consider JoJo's play over the last 2 yrs to be top notch. He's still a CB2 but declining.
 
ObsiWan said:
did you see the Bears secondary?? Even now, can you name their CBs without googling. They need serious defensive help.
:D
And Jacksonville was looking for a compliment to Jalen Ramsey - who is still the #1CB on the Jags not Bouye. So when Bouye hit the market they wanted in on the bidding war.
We had a top flight F/A CB in Joseph and two high draft choice CBs in Jackson and Johnson in 2016. You wanted them to pay for a fourth?? This with Hopkins extension coming up.

Y'all need to think logically.
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RS used logic.....where did the Texans secondary finish the season?
 
ObsiWan said:
You're not asking for "foresight" you're asking for a GM, any GM, to accurately predict the future.
That's not "foresight", that's crystal balling.
LOL
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Does projection work? that's the word Gaine used in his press conference. The issue was not that Bouye was the 4th cornerback in 2016 (early), but where was he going to be in 2017 and beyond versus the other three guys? To be fair, that was a tough question, with an expensive answer if even you do think better than.

As i recall, the thoughts on this board were quite mixed versus what 2017 showed us on the field
 
Bouye signed a 5 year 67.5 million dollar contract with 26 million guaranteed making him the 7th highest paid corner in the league.

Did we see enough in 2016 to believe he earned that much?

Perhaps guys like cnd understood how substantial kjo's injury was and projected the drop off he had. I didn't.
 
powda said:
Bouye with a 32 yard pi which leads to a ne touchdown...
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oh and don't forget that Cook was burning him so bad and so regularly that the Jags had to switch the defense and put Ramsey on Cook in the 2nd half.

But evil Rick Smith let mister all-world, Bouye "get away"...
:mariopalm:
 
banned1976 said:
This is still going on despite the fact neither RS nor Bouye will be part of the Texans in at least 2018? Bouye's gone probably forever and Smith may be too. Now it's just down to who was right and who was wrong? Who knows who was right? And who cares???
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Which is why I was wondering why this is still such a burr under some folks' saddle.
 
banned1976 said:
This is still going on despite the fact neither RS nor Bouye will be part of the Texans in at least 2018? Bouye's gone probably forever and Smith may be too. Now it's just down to who was right and who was wrong? Who knows who was right? And who cares???
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Isn't this every 'discussion" on this message board?
 
ObsiWan said:
You're not asking for "foresight" you're asking for a GM, any GM, to accurately predict the future.
That's not "foresight", that's crystal balling.
LOL
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How so? The Texans signed him in 2013 as a UDFA. Low risk, low expectations. Then they kept him around for four years ('13-'16) and coached him up. In 2014 he flashed, and they figured thye might be on to something. All of this is foresight. They weren't crystal balling anything; they were taking calculated risks. They spent time developing him, and he developed. Then, when he got to the end of his contract, they let all that development walk.

Look, you and I and everyone else all know what really happened - they wanted a cheap corner that played like a #1/#2 guy. Rick Smith overplayed the pitch. Buoye believed in himself and gambled on himself. If Rick Smith really though Buoye was no better than the team's 4th best corner, then he's a fkn idiot. If Rick Smith wasn't ready to buy in that Buoye had really turned into a true starting caliber CB yet, then he had the option to franchise him and make him prove it one more year.

If you're going to take on development projects, expect your successes to eventually cost you money. Plan for it. That's foresight. Plan for most of them to fail, as well. If you know you have an aging #1 CB, plan for his phasing out. None of that is crystal ball magic.
 
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eriadoc said:
If Rick Smith wasn't ready to buy in that Buoye had really turned into a true starting caliber CB yet, then he had the option to franchise him and make him prove it one more year.

None of that is crystal ball magic.
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Not in isolation but it leaves out the price tag. There are 64 starting CBs in the league. RS made an offer to get him in the top quarter. He had the foresight to see the need and the asset. Bouye got paid 7th.

It was basically unanimous last offseason that Bouye was wanted back but there was a price limit. Now folks are acting like price be damned. That's demanding a crystal ball.
 
infantrycak said:
Not in isolation but it leaves out the price tag. There are 64 starting CBs in the league. RS made an offer to get him in the top quarter. He had the foresight to see the need and the asset. Bouye got paid 7th.

It was basically unanimous last offseason that Bouye was wanted back but there was a price limit. Now folks are acting like price be damned. That's demanding a crystal ball.
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Well, one assumes that the savings was meant for Romo....which never happened.

If true (honest question) - Who gets the blame for a Romo deal falling through? Whether a leak had Jones kibosh it, Romo truly wanted to retire, or it was all a smokescreen on Romo's part, who would take the hit?
 
disaacks3 said:
If true (honest question) - Who gets the blame for a Romo deal falling through? Whether a leak had Jones kibosh it, Romo truly wanted to retire, or it was all a smokescreen on Romo's part, who would take the hit?
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I guess best answer I can give is if there is any blame within the Texans it falls on RS.

I do wonder whether Oz and a play for Romo were not inspired by OB's vet preference.
 
infantrycak said:
I guess best answer I can give is if there is any blame within the Texans it falls on RS.

I do wonder whether Oz and a play for Romo were not inspired by OB's vet preference.
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My question would be , if the Texans go after Romo , does that mean they considered themselves a QB away from being a SB contender ?
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
My question would be , if the Texans go after Romo , does that mean they considered themselves a QB away from being a SB contender ?
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I think Smith thought they were after watching us go 9-7 with poor QB play. Remember, if they sign Romo the draft would have been different as well. I think they would have worked something out with Brown as well. As fragile as Romo is you’ve gotta protect him. An OL with Brown, a first rd OT and a 2nd or 3rd guard would have performed much better that what we witnessed this season

Glad it worked out the way it did though. I’m really excited to watch Watson grow as a QB.
 
otisbean said:
Remember, if they sign Romo the draft would have been different as well. I think they would have worked something out with Brown as well. As fragile as Romo is you’ve gotta protect him. An OL with Brown, a first rd OT and a 2nd or 3rd guard would have performed much better that what we witnessed this season
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This always gets left out of Romo discussions.
 
otisbean said:
I think Smith thought they were after watching us go 9-7 with poor QB play. Remember, if they sign Romo the draft would have been different as well. I think they would have worked something out with Brown as well. As fragile as Romo is you’ve gotta protect him. An OL with Brown, a first rd OT and a 2nd or 3rd guard would have performed much better that what we witnessed this season

Glad it worked out the way it did though. I’m really excited to watch Watson grow as a QB.
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Sure but it's a two year plan thinking their a QB away . I think DBrown holds out no matter because the Texans will not come to the table and he wants out anyway but saying he didn't they pick an OT in the first and a guard in the 2nd it would take a while to gel and the first 5 games were stout . It's the Texans trolling for has beens and ending up letting players walk for used up vets .
 
disaacks3 said:
Well, one assumes that the savings was meant for Romo....which never happened.

If true (honest question) - Who gets the blame for a Romo deal falling through? Whether a leak had Jones kibosh it, Romo truly wanted to retire, or it was all a smokescreen on Romo's part, who would take the hit?
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Ricky, or that's atleast what the McNair's actions look like to me.

Of course there's always the chances he will be back influencing Enos.

Oh well, I'm happy with change.

Sometimes it's like pulling teeth.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Sure but it's a two year plan thinking their a QB away . I think DBrown holds out no matter because the Texans will not come to the table and he wants out anyway but saying he didn't they pick an OT in the first and a guard in the 2nd it would take a while to gel and the first 5 games were stout . It's the Texans trolling for has beens and ending up letting players walk for used up vets .
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If Texans sign Romo, I think they draft Ryan Ramczyk or Cam Robinson. By drafting an OT, instantly Duane Brown loses alot of leverage. There's a decent chance he doesn't hold out at all.
 
JB said:
If Bob doesn't take a stance against his raised fist during the anthem there is a decent chance he doesn't hold out at all
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This is what I was saying all along and people told me I was crazy.

Bottom line for me is thing going to affect the ability to recruit top tier FA's?
 
JB said:
If Bob doesn't take a stance against his raised fist during the anthem there is a decent chance he doesn't hold out at all
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I don’t think that was the case at all.

Duane was getting older, he just came off a major injury, he saw the OL situation the Texans were in, so he saw this as a good opportunity to ask for more guaranteed money. He knew his career was coming close to an end.

If Bob McNair really bothered him, then why hold out? Just demand to be traded.
 
dream_team said:
I don’t think that was the case at all.

Duane was getting older, he just came off a major injury, he saw the OL situation the Texans were in, so he saw this as a good opportunity to ask for more guaranteed money. He knew his career was coming close to an end.

If Bob McNair really bothered him, then why hold out? Just demand to be traded.
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Who says he didn't demand a trade behind closed doors? Some guys keep their business private. Brown is not a dumb guy. He wanted out of Houston for a reason.
 
Instead of starting another thread I'll just bump this one. This topic has been hotly debated around here and it would be nice to have a place where fabricated and anecdotal stuff could be put to rest and where we could start the barometer for a Brian Gaine success story.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2019mmd_16.php

The excellent drafts by the Texans are paying off extremely well in 2018. Under former general manager Rick Smith and an all-star team of scouts, Houston was the only team to have a 10-year stretch without a first-round pick going bust. That run saw the Texans also identify diamonds in the rough like Arian Foster and A.J. Bouye, two of the best undrafted free agents in the past 20 years. Prior to Bill O'Brien being named the head coach, Smith and his team also drafted some elite players outside of the top 10, including a future Hall of Famer in J.J. Watt, one of the best wideouts in the NFL in DeAndre Hopkins, and a franchise left tackle in Duane Brown. Houston also wisely took good starters in Brian Cushing, Kareem Jackson and Whitney Mercilus.

Read more: http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2019mmd_16.php#ixzz5aofQZ0aC

Read more at http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2019mmd_16.php#qTgzfpB0QJeHWBO7.99
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Everyone has crowned Gaine as some heir apparent, he has alot of work to do and big shoes to fill. The success rate on 1st round picks historically hovers around 50% .. Rick Smith nailed almost every pick except Amobi Okoye and Kevin Johnson .. thats phenomenal work. His second round picks are not far behind. Yet for some reason Smith is crucified around here as the main reason why the club has struggled to identify talent? He didnt do enough to retain some homegrown guys, but selecting at the top of the draft was never a problem for Smith. That played out excuse should die and people should stop trying to castrate the previous regime in order to make the current one more appealing, its just not based on tangible evidence. Yes he didnt always hit on later round picks .. did Gaine hit on later round picks? Justin Reid in the 3rd was great, what else from last years draft is showing promise?

Not trying to rehash the past necessarily, just get sick when guys are pointing the finger at one dude and fail to address the other factors in the personnel deficiency with the current regime. "Its all Ricks Smiths fault" rationale.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Instead of starting another thread I'll just bump this one. This topic has been hotly debated around here and it would be nice to have a place where fabricated and anecdotal stuff could be put to rest and where we could start the barometer for a Brian Gaine success story.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2019mmd_16.php



Everyone has crowned Gaine as some heir apparent, he has alot of work to do and big shoes to fill. The success rate on 1st round picks historically hovers around 50% .. Rick Smith nailed almost every pick except Amobi Okoye and Kevin Johnson .. thats phenomenal work. His second round picks are not far behind. Yet for some reason Smith is crucified around here as the main reason why the club has struggled to identify talent? He didnt do enough to retain some homegrown guys, but selecting at the top of the draft was never a problem for Smith. That played out excuse should die and people should stop trying to castrate the previous regime in order to make the current one more appealing, its just not based on tangible evidence. Yes he didnt always hit on later round picks .. did Gaine hit on later round picks? Justin Reid in the 3rd was great, what else from last years draft is showing promise?

Not trying to rehash the past necessarily, just get sick when guys are pointing the finger at one dude and fail to address the other factors in the personnel deficiency with the current regime. "Its all Ricks Smiths fault" rationale.
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Big shoes to fill? LOL

Yes he hit on his 1st rd picks.

Go back and look at his drafts in rds 2-4 and get back to me.

His greatest failure was not drafting a decent QB in a decade.

Maybe we just have a different definition of the word mediocrity. The only thing that really matters is his record, go back and check that out. It certainly shouldn't be hard to top that and if Gaine cant do better than that he needs to be fired too.

I've wanted Ricky to be fired since 2010 and knew there would be no Lombardi's in Houston until he was gone. In other words look at it this way the last 7 yrs have been wasted football yrs. Do you think it's a coincidence that the Texans had their 2nd best yr in franchise history despite not having 1st or 2nd rd picks after they dumped Ricky?

How did they accomplish this, by fixing 2 longstanding bugaboos in the reign of Ricky. ST's and the Safety positions. BTW, I think we are going to see a lot of improvement by the TE's in yr 2, because the TE position is one of the hardest for a rookie to learn and Thomas was really behind the 8 ball having been converted from WR. I'm really happy with his progress. Since Rankin has been moved inside where he belongs I expect him to improve greatly as he gets more experience in yr 2. If Coutee can stay healthy the sky's the limit for him. Do you like Daniel?

Tell me when Ricky has ever had an offseason like Gaine's 1st offseason? Gaine's record speaks for itself, just as Ricky's did. I cant wait until Gaine has a full compliment of draft picks. Good times are ahead. I do feel as though there's a racial element in people that defend Ricky because the Texans were going nowhere with him and there was 12 yrs of evidence to support this position. How many more yrs of mediocrity would Ricky have had to have before you would stop making posts like this one? Another 5 yrs? 10 yrs 20 yrs?

Enough is enough of this crap, lets just move forward, we have had the 2nd best season in franchise history and we still get posts like this one. SMH
 
steelbtexan said:
Big shoes to fill? LOL

Yes he hit on his 1st rd picks.

Go back and look at his drafts in rds 2-4 and get back to me.

His greatest failure was not drafting a decent QB in a decade.

Maybe we just have a different definition of the word mediocrity. The only thing that really matters is his record, go back and check that out. It certainly shouldn't be hard to top that and if Gaine cant do better than that he needs to be fired too.

I've wanted Ricky to be fired since 2010 and knew there would be no Lombardi's in Houston until he was gone. In other words look at it this way the last 7 yrs have been wasted football yrs. Do you think it's a coincidence that the Texans had their 2nd best yr in franchise history despite not having 1st or 2nd rd picks after they dumped Ricky?

How did they accomplish this, by fixing 2 longstanding bugaboos in the reign of Ricky. ST's and the Safety positions. BTW, I think we are going to see a lot of improvement by the TE's in yr 2, because the TE position is one of the hardest for a rookie to learn and Thomas was really behind the 8 ball having been converted from WR. I'm really happy with his progress. Since Rankin has been moved inside where he belongs I expect him to improve greatly as he gets more experience in yr 2. If Coutee can stay healthy the sky's the limit for him. Do you like Daniel?

Tell me when Ricky has ever had an offseason like Gaine's 1st offseason? Gaine's record speaks for itself, just as Ricky's did. I cant wait until Gaine has a full compliment of draft picks. Good times are ahead. I do feel as though there's a racial element in people that defend Ricky because the Texans were going nowhere with him and there was 12 yrs of evidence to support this position. How many more yrs of mediocrity would Ricky have had to have before you would stop making posts like this one? Another 5 yrs? 10 yrs 20 yrs?

Enough is enough of this crap, lets just move forward, we have had the 2nd best season in franchise history and we still get posts like this one. SMH
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we can move forward if you stop making **** up and crying about Tricky Ricky everytime this team has a hiccup and you can get up off your knees from sucking off OBrien and Gaine in your attempt to discredit everything before then ... otherwise I will continue to make you look like a fool everytime one of your ridiculous takes on this matter is brought up.

Today Ross Tucker from the Athletic gives Rick Smith HUUGE love for finding Brandon Brooks, calls Brandon Brooks the best RG in football and the Texans dumb for not signing him, the radio team then goes on to inform Tucker that Bill OBrien didnt get along with Brooks and basically ran him out of town, at which point Tucker LAUGHED LOL

At first you criticized everything about Smith, as more information contrary to your takes comes out, the more you try and skew the conversation in your favor. NOW its all the late round picks that supposedly Smith whiffed on, but if I were to dig up GM accuracy rates in later rounds and show you to your fact that you are still wrong you would only shift the argument in another direction.
 
Since hitting late round picks is so Easy @steelbtexan why is Reid the only player from last years Brian Gaine draft class that shows any promise at all?
 
Uncle Rico said:
we can move forward if you stop making **** up and crying about Tricky Ricky everytime this team has a hiccup and you can get up off your knees from sucking off OBrien and Gaine in your attempt to discredit everything before then ... otherwise I will continue to make you look like a fool everytime one of your ridiculous takes on this matter is brought up.

Today Ross Tucker from the Athletic gives Rick Smith HUUGE love for finding Brandon Brooks, calls Brandon Brooks the best RG in football and the Texans dumb for not signing him, the radio team then goes on to inform Tucker that Bill OBrien didnt get along with Brooks and basically ran him out of town, at which point Tucker LAUGHED LOL

At first you criticized everything about Smith, as more information contrary to your takes comes out, the more you try and skew the conversation in your favor. NOW its all the late round picks that supposedly Smith whiffed on, but if I were to dig up GM accuracy rates in later rounds and show you to your fact that you are still wrong you would only shift the argument in another direction.
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I'm not doing any such things for Gaine BOB. I'm just happy that the Texans are having their 2nd winningest season in franchise history and dont think it's a coincidence that it coincided with Ricky being gone. The winning is an inconvenient truth that you dont want to acknowledge. It's like you're unhappy the Texans are doing better since Gaine was hired.

I noticed how you didn't address Gaine's 1st draft. I'm very happy with it considering the picks Gaine had. Obviously you didn't go back and look at Ricky's rd 2-4 draft record. Good times are ahead catch the wave and dont be a hater.

BTW, notice how you didn't see me mention BOB in this post. Gaine/Ricky are the ones whose jobs should be compared. The jury is still out on Gaine although he's off to a very promising start.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Since hitting late round picks is so Easy @steelbtexan why is Reid the only player from last years Brian Gaine draft class that shows any promise at all?
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I really think Jordan Thomas/Coutee and others I posted have alot of promise. Feel free to disagree. What were your expectations of a late rd draft class. I think Gaine has done about as well as can be realistically be expected. That doesn't even count the FA/UDFA moves Gaine has made.
 
steelbtexan said:
I really think Jordan Thomas/Coutee and others I posted have alot of promise. Feel free to disagree. What were your expectations of a late rd draft class. I think Gaine has done about as well as can be realistically be expected. That doesn't even count the FA/UDFA moves Gaine has made.
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I’m a Rick Smith hater but I gotta day this... Drafts aren’t based on potential. If a player can’t stay on the field then they’re a bust.
 
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