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Vinny said:I thought Weary played well when he was in late in the year. He has a great attitude, is very flexible for a big man and may be a good fit in this offense since we are going to actually run the o-line LIKE IT WAS DESIGNED. *ahem*. Anyway...he has had poor handwork in the past but he's smart enough to take to better coaching. I'd like to see him get reps at Center and Guard both.
SESupergenius said:Like I said before, everyone should get a clean slate no matter what you thought of the player before. Carr gets one, no reason Weary should either, and everyone knows that I fired off on Weary for several years now.
poor handwork/leverage. he got beat with simple quickness techniques over and over. He has the body and the measurables.Runner said:Do you have any theories to why he never saw much action before?
Vinny said:poor handwork/leverage. he got beat with simple quickness techniques over and over. He has the body and the measurables.
Vinny said:Hopefully he is our still young but now veteran, versatile G/C combo back up in a blocking scheme that will be more about finesse and being an athlete than it is about plowing people or just trying to mash everybody with big lumbering guys.
I agree. I think Weary could amount to something with some good coaching and a chance.Vinny said:I thought Weary played well when he was in late in the year. He has a great attitude, is very flexible for a big man and may be a good fit in this offense since we are going to actually run the o-line LIKE IT WAS DESIGNED. *ahem*. Anyway...he has had poor handwork in the past but he's smart enough to take to better coaching. I'd like to see him get reps at Center and Guard both.
I for one am gonna very interested to see what the new coaching staff thinksSESupergenius said:Like I said before, everyone should get a clean slate no matter what you thought of the player before.
HoneymoonIsOver said:nice rebuttal.....here is mine in a language you may be able to understand
maybe is you being think you can and start to more time spending creating cogent sentences.
and please leave the apologist rhetoric to others..you will be doing yourself and your cause a favor
CajunTexan said:Where is a moderator when you need one?
HoneymoonIsOver said:omgooses, we signed Fred Weary?!?!?! Finally, our offensive line problems are now a thing of history. Start making reservations for the Super Bowl and lets just go ahead and anoint Casserley as Executive of the Year.
maybe, if we hurry, we can lock up average skill positions players for top dollar money. oh wait we already did that with Davis and Carr. I guess this year it will be to franchise tag Joppru or Babin. We can always use the transition tag on Bradford.
Oh joy, another offseason of hope and promise, courtesy of Cass and Co.
-- whats the difference between a inept moron that sells insurance and Casserley? --
-- One sells insurance. --
Get A New QB said:hey weary is a good lineman
and honey moon something i really dont care
the offseason hasnt even started for us so stop being a smart a$s you say is a bad move but you dont about coaching
if he was resigned is because kubiak thinks he is good enough for this team
HoneymoonIsOver said:nice rebuttal.....here is mine in a language you may be able to understand
maybe is you being think you can and start to more time spending creating cogent sentences.
and please leave the apologist rhetoric to others..you will be doing yourself and your cause a favor
keyfro said:maybe instead of having a trash talk session we should stay on topic and with the thread...with weary signed is there any other back-ups from last season that you see the texans resigning and having any influence on the upcoming draft?
keyfro said:as listed on the homepage...any thoughts?
nunusguy said:I for one am gonna very interested to see what the new coaching staff thinks
of Seth Wand, because I think a lot is unknown about his rapid ascent to the
starter at the top OL position, and just as rapidly falling out of favor with
the previous regime. I'm thinking he's a RFA this offseason, so we'll see if he gets any interest from other teams and what becomes of him under the new regime.
keyfro said:maybe instead of having a trash talk session we should stay on topic and with the thread...with weary signed is there any other back-ups from last season that you see the texans resigning and having any influence on the upcoming draft?
Runner said:You and me both. I may get chased off of this board if he bombs!
HoneymoonIsOver said:nice rebuttal.....here is mine in a language you may be able to understand
maybe is you being think you can and start to more time spending creating cogent sentences.
and please leave the apologist rhetoric to others..you will be doing yourself and your cause a favor
Yeah but who didn't,i say give him a chance,maybe if we stop playing mucical chairs with our lineman and play them where they fit we may see a better product on the field.That along with a draft choice or 2 and a FA pickup that is.Vinny said:poor handwork/leverage. he got beat with simple quickness techniques over and over. He has the body and the measurables.
HJam72 said:It does concern me that we are sort of celebrating the resigning(s) of our former O-linemen. :
We are discussing our football team. Every single team in the NFL has players like Fred....this is where you discuss this kind of stuff.HJam72 said:It does concern me that we are sort of celebrating the resigning(s) of our former O-linemen. :
Vinny said:Every single team in the NFL has players like Fred....
keyfro said:rivers might turn into a quality player but i still see us drafting another TE on the first day due to our extreme need of a every-down player at that position...bruener can't catch and rivers can't block...we need a mixture...someone like klopfenstein, pope, king, day, or bryd
milford brown i'm not sure about...in order to fit kubiak's scheme he would have to drop around 20-30lbs...that's a lot for some of these guys...pitts would have to drop around 20lbs...and wand would have to drop close to 30lbs...players like weary, mckinney, weigert, and hodgdon are already close only needing to drop around 10lbs...so it'll be interesting to see who get's dropped from the team and who they pick up as far as the o-line is concerned
as far as peek goes...he is one of our best defensive players...unfortunetly i don't see a spot where he simply fits...weakside DE would probably be the best but that's where they'll be putting babin...strongside backer is another i just wonder about his ability to cover...but i believe we have to offer him a tender of atleast 3rd round compensation just in case another team wants him
ledzeppelin269 said:I don't think they're all going to have to drop weight. Maybe some of them will, but the bottom line is their athletic ability. As long as that's up to par the weight isn't really the issue.
Vinny said:We are discussing our football team. Every single team in the NFL has players like Fred....this is where you discuss this kind of stuff.
ArlingtonTexan said:I will go even further, the major problem with the Texans is that the Fred Wearys of the world have not been either recognized, coached, or developed properly. Too many of the mid-round draft picks and 2nd/3rd tier FA that are "boring" have not been able contribute at expectations much less above them.
ledzeppelin269 said:Umm come on man. Why whould you have scrubs like Fred Weary and Seth Wand playing when studs like Victor Riley are on the roster. I don't blame Dom for that one.
It's still February.....and we are rebuilding...nobody knows what is up until after the FA and the draft.bigTEXan8 said:I'm starting to wonder how much we know about this team. OK...Texans resign Weary, who isn't the greatest, but obviously good enough to play in the NFL. They have Payne, Wade, Weigert and others locked up in long-term contracts. Am I the only one who doesn't see what's going on here.
TexasJedi said:I agree. I think Weary could amount to something with some good coaching and a chance.
HoneymoonIsOver said:I agree that some people are making this resigning as some sort of homecoming or great achievement. Basically it looks like we will have the same OL that you blame all of Carr's failures on. We may add a rookie, but how much is that gonna help. Bottom line is that we are staying the course with our personnel (cause they are Charlie's picks) and blaming all our problems on coaching (cause that is Capers job). This front office complacency and lack of reality is going to set us back more years than the horrible personnel decisions already have.
Last year everyone slammed me for my posts predicting doom and gloom. Everything I predicted came true. This year, the homers on this board are still oblivious to the huge problems we have on the Texans and make me out to be the bad guy. Dont shoot the messenger.
1. Our OL isnt going to improve overnight with 'coaching' and that coupled along with Carr's inability to show pocket presence and Carr's inability to be effective in the pocket spell disaster.
2. Our offensive scheme does not have the personnel to run Kubiak's offense effectively. Our lineman are too big and we all saw how well they zone block. We would be better off drive blocking and using the skills/players we have to their best ability. You dont put players around a system, you put in a system that favors your existing players.....but of course that would be the smart thing to do and we all know that isnt how the Texans do things.
3. Our rewarding average players with huge $$ will continue to create locker room inequities and when its time for players that play well to get paid (Orr, Pitts, Wells, and Earl) we willnot have money to do it.
4. Fans will stop coming to games soon because the honeymoon is over. Their unwillingness to start over with a new QB and their willingness to continue operating under a high school QB in Carr will just continue the franchises decline.
5. Our inability to attract quality FA and quality coaches while also drafting as bad as any team in the league will make us the laughing stock. Expect Top5 draft picks for the next 2-3 years. At least we have some good QB prospects coming in future drafts...lord knows we need one
6. All the homers that are posting 'i heart carr' and 'weary is god' will use a little revisionist history and do the ole 'i told you so' bs that we always see.
Stop sugar coating the team. The team is in dire straits. They still have Casserley for crying out loud. If that is not the sign of a sick organization what is...