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Houston Texans 2017 5th round pick, Treston Decoud, S, Oregon State

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Strengths
Has outstanding size with long arms. Recognizes misdirection and plays with decent football instincts. Patient feet from press coverage. Can be physical through the route. Quick to body up and crowd an outside release against the sideline. Experienced in a variety of coverage. Held talented Cal wideout, Chad Hansen, to just four catches for sixteen yards. Eyeballs quarterback from zone and has good response time relative to quarterback's release. Aggressive tackler who steps downhill looking to finish in run support. Works off of blocks and into tackle position. Drives into his target, wraps, and tackles.

Weaknesses
Gets behind early when pressing receivers with release quickness off the snap. Backpedals from a narrow base with labored feet. Will lose some balance and body control when forced to transition against in-breaking routes. Takes way too many false steps when attempting to sink and trigger on the throw from his pedal. Doesn't have the sudden closing burst to defend what he sees in coverage. Had just two interceptions (both in one game) over 104 targets. Play speed is slightly below average. Unable to squeeze routes enough to make quarterbacks uncomfortable from off-man.
 
Bottom Line
Treston's size and physicality are two traits that some teams will covet on draft day, but there are some coverage limitations that push him towards a cover-2 defense. DeCoud lacks the trigger quickness to close separation windows that open against him, so a team may try and convert him into a free safety role where his coverage and tackling may be a fit as a backup.
 
Bottom Line
Treston's size and physicality are two traits that some teams will covet on draft day, but there are some coverage limitations that push him towards a cover-2 defense. DeCoud lacks the trigger quickness to close separation windows that open against him, so a team may try and convert him into a free safety role where his coverage and tackling may be a fit as a backup.

That and I bet he's a guy who will de anything to get a paycheck . I'm thinking he's probably good at special teams .

ps. He ran a 4.57 at his pro day .
 
Team clearly has an ideal size/length requirement they are looking for... held Chad Hansen to 4 catches/16 yards. Sounds like a physical player that can tackle. Special teamer with upside to maybe get some help as a safety!
 
Nate Gerry was just selected. 6'2" 220 safety - won the state 100 meter dash, set a new state record in the 200 meter .... bright kid out of Wisconsin.
 
Texans do seem to have a good record of finding DB's and CB's in lower rounds/ undrafted


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Treston is very instinctual player, think of Bouye, but he moves to FS. Very similar I think? Playmaker, good hands but not WR's. Length to speed 4.57 better than given credit for. Closest comp they could find this late after run on db's.
 
Not super high on him but after the moves made in the rest of the draft I'm actually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. We still might grab something in FA, though the picking are slim.
 
I really like this guy. He is a physical DB that is an excellent tackler. Good at closing on the ball and gets his hands on the ball a lot thanks to his long arms. His game compares favorably to Bouye and I could see them using him in that same role they had for Bouye before Kevin Johnson got hurt. Designated TE eraser. He matches up well with bigger stronger receivers.
 
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He looks kinda like Sherman, similar facial features and he's long and slender and reportedly physical corner so maybe they are on to something with this guy.
As I recall Sherman was no a burner either, something in the 4.5s like this guy.
 
The Texans continue to collect high injury risk players. The "scary neck injury" referred to in the article posted above was not a neck injury..........it was a very serious concussion (Nov 2015)...........he laid on the field several minutes knocked out cold and not moving any of his limbs after he collided with a teammates helmet, even after placed on the stretcher to be taken to the hospital. It wasn't until he was admitted to the hospital did he have return of movement. And this was only one in a series of concussions that this young man had sustained. This history, along with his rather poor coverage skill, were the reasons teams stayed away from drafting him, as he could be one hit away from having to find another profession.
 
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The Texans continue to collect high injury risk players. The "scary neck injury" referred to in the article posted above was not a neck injury..........it was a very serious concussion (Nov 2015)...........he laid on the field several minutes knocked out cold and not moving any of his limbs after he collided with a teammates helmet, even after placed on the stretcher to be taken to the hospital. It wasn't until he was admitted to the hospital did he have return of movement. And this was only one in a series of concussions that this young man had sustained. This history, along with his rather poor coverage skill, were the reasons teams stayed away from drafting him, as he could be one hit away from having to find another profession.
This needs to be reposted to the Injury Thread, and noted as being for Decoud.
 
Decoud is expected to miss time due to NFL academic rule which doesn't allow him to join the team until graduation. Unfortunately, this is not until the 3rd week in Jun. That only leaves him 3 days on the practice field prior to TC (June 13-15: Mandatory Minicamp). This is the same rule/delay that is felt to have blunted Su'a-Filo's early development.
 
Decoud is expected to miss time due to NFL academic rule which doesn't allow him to join the team until graduation. Unfortunately, this is not until the 3rd week in Jun. That only leaves him 3 days on the practice field prior to TC (June 13-15: Mandatory Minicamp). This is the same rule/delay that is felt to have blunted Su'a-Filo's early development.

An added hit to XSF's development that year was they gave him reps all over the line in his limited time in TC. In addition to being a rookie adjusting to the speed of the NFL and a more complicated playbook they asked him to learn more than one position during his limited time in training camp.

I hope they don't make the same mistake with Decoud and have him learn CB and S in a complicated defense during a limited time in camp. Stick him at one spot, give him a defined role and let him learn that!
 
Decoud is expected to miss time due to NFL academic rule which doesn't allow him to join the team until graduation. Unfortunately, this is not until the 3rd week in Jun. That only leaves him 3 days on the practice field prior to TC (June 13-15: Mandatory Minicamp). This is the same rule/delay that is felt to have blunted Su'a-Filo's early development.
The Chronicle reports, today, that Oregon State's commencement is June 17th. He'll miss the mandatory mini-camp.
 
The Chronicle reports, today, that Oregon State's commencement is June 17th. He'll miss the mandatory mini-camp.
Besides my other many deficiencies, I evidently I can't count either :toropalm: In my post, I reported that he wasn't going to graduate until the 3rd week in June...............then went on to contradict myself by saying he would at least attend the mandatory Minicamp June 13-15. This week, I will be seeking an online remedial elementary school mathematics course.
 
Nate Gerry was just selected. 6'2" 220 safety - won the state 100 meter dash, set a new state record in the 200 meter .... bright kid out of Wisconsin.
To clarify senior out of Nebraska: 74 Ts, 5.5 for loss, 8 PBUs, 4 INTs, 1 QB hurry. 4.58 combine 40.
At 6-foot-2 and 218 pounds with 31 1/4-inch arms, the South Dakota native could project in the pros as a zone-scheme free safety or as a nickel strong safety-slash-linebacker who crowds the box — and receivers — on passing downs. Gerry picked off four passes and broke up eight in the heart of the Huskers’ defense last fall, but he also made three starts at linebacker as a true freshman in 2013, recording 32 tackles, two tackles for loss, and a quarterback hurry. His 13 career picks in Lincoln are tied for second-most in program history, just one off the all-time mark.

His combine measurables, so far, are comparable to both Smith (6-2, 218), a Pro Bowl safety with the Vikings, and Bucannon (6-1, 220), a former college safety who’s proven to be an impact defender as a linebacker — dubbed a “money” linebacker — with the Arizona Cardinals. Gerry’s bench press at Indy didn’t exactly discouraged scouts either:
https://www.landof10.com/nebraska/2...ety-nate-gerry-says-nfl-teams-like-linebacker

I am very interested in this guy
 
Johnson is our best outside cover guy. Why would we move him inside? I say Joseph and Johnson outside with Kareem in the slot. Looks like the Safeties will be Hal and Dillon.

I like Decoud better as a S but it appears they drafted him to play CB. He's going to be limited but he could play on the boundary side of the field. He's long and physical so he could bump and run with help over the top.
 
Johnson is our best outside cover guy. Why would we move him inside? I say Joseph and Johnson outside with Kareem in the slot. Looks like the Safeties will be Hal and Dillon.

I like Decoud better as a S but it appears they drafted him to play CB. He's going to be limited but he could play on the boundary side of the field. He's long and physical so he could bump and run with help over the top.
definitely agree on Johnson but am open to moving vets around if playing Decoud outside getd better players on field. My thought when Decoud was drafted was safety; but Jackson to safety improve that position and he seems to be off a bit at corner.
 
I think the best move is for Kareem to go to safety. Kjo starts opposite Joseph.

If I were drafting I'd have taken a corner higher in the draft probably instead of Foreman. But at least they did take a corner.

Joseph is another year older and oft injured, Kareem can be spotty and kjo is coming off a lower body injury. Maybe Decoud or Nelson or one of the other young corners we have can step up.

As far as Decoud goes, I think they have to be hoping he can be a Richard Sherman lite. He's not the athlete Sherman is but he has longer arms and he's a thicker guy.

He's scouting report reads a bit like Sherman's did coming out who some thought would make a better safety too. He may end up having to go there sooner than later.

Decoys' best friend is going to be a dominant pass rush which I think helped Sherman a lot as well.
 
The Texans have had a propensity to pick up players with a history of overcoming personal adversities.

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Texans rookie Treston Decoud stays ready after being sidelined by NFL academic rule

Rookie sidelined by NFL's academic ruling has a long history of overcoming setbacks

By Aaron Wilson
June 29, 2017 Updated: June 29, 2017 8:59pm
The Texans are hopeful that former first-round cornerback Kevin Johnson will stay healthy for the first time in his NFL career and make a strong comeback from his second foot surgery to address a Jones fracture. Johnson didn't practice during the spring, but is expected to be ready for training camp. Johnson was applying tight coverage and was an aggressive tackler before he got hurt last October against the Indianapolis Colts.

The Texans are counting on Johnson after A.J. Bouye signed a five-year, $67.4 million contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Bouye was a fast, physical presence in the secondary and was adept at shutting down big, athletic tight ends. Johnson is capable of doing that, but he has to remain in the lineup in his third NFL season. Secondary coach John Butler was upbeat about Johnson's health and is optimistic that the system the Texans have will allow them to develop younger corners like Robert Nelson and Denzel Rice.

Rookie Treston Decoud, a fifth-round draft pick from Oregon State, is the biggest cornerback on the Texans' roster.

With his feet moving in rapid, rhythmic fashion like pistons in an engine, Texans rookie cornerback Treston Decoud maintained an athletic, balanced stance while performing agility drills.

As rap music blared from the speaker system at a sports training facility in Houston, Decoud sweated through a vigorous regimen built to keep him in shape while he trained in solitude away from his football team.

Flexibility, strength training and footwork were the order of the day for Decoud during a recent workout. He rolled through ladder drills under the supervision of a trainer barking instructions and got in some core work before hitting the weights, hoisting heavy metal in preparation for training camp.

Decoud is aware he has a lot of ground to make up, so he's making the most of his time.

Since being drafted in the fifth round out of Oregon State, Decoud, 23, has been allowed to be with the Texans only for a few days at a rookie minicamp.

Due to an NFL academic rule that also impacted Panthers rookie running back Christian McCaffrey and Bengals rookie wide receiver John Ross, Decoud has been prevented from spending time with his teammates and coaches.

Under the collective bargaining agreement, Decoud and other players from Pac-12 schools on the academic quarter system who don't finish until after minicamps are over can't participate in any activities with their respective teams following the rookie minicamp.

In Decoud's case, he missed all of the organized team activities and a full-team minicamp. Oregon State concludes its academic calendar Saturday. The Texans closed their final minicamp Wednesday, with coach Bill O'Brien canceling their final day Thursday.

"I really don't know too much about it, but you've got to abide by the rules," Decoud said. "I'm sure the other guys like Christian McCaffrey feel the same way I do. I just want to get on the field and get some reps. Training camp will be tough - I know that.

"I'm a smart guy, so I'm not really concerned about that. Once I get in there, the coaches will walk me through and catch me up on everything. It's the NFL. You have to be ready at all times. I'll be ready. I want to make sure when training camp comes, I have no excuses."

Determination and resolve have defined Decoud's journey to the NFL. So this stumbling block that has delayed the Louisiana native from realizing his dream for a few more months hasn't fazed him.

"This is just another stepping stone, just another bridge that I have to cross," Decoud said. "I've been through a whole lot. This is really a breeze. I'm not stressed about it."

Saw a man murdered

Growing up in Louisiana, Decoud became accustomed to sharing his block with drug dealers and a variety of other criminals. As a seventh-grader, he watched as a man was murdered by a gunshot roughly 100 yards away from him. Decoud was a frequent victim of violence until he stood up for himself and the bullying halted.

"I grew up in one of the worst neighborhoods that you can grow up in," Decoud said. "It's just bad. There's killing, drug dealing, everything you can imagine. It's a typical Louisiana neighborhood. It's tough, but a lot of people make it out. I'm just glad I was one of them."

Decoud had an arduous childhood, bouncing around from home to home with various family members and friends.

He lived with his grandfather for a while. He spent time with his father, Darryl Batiste, when he wasn't in trouble with the law.

An only child, Decoud leaned on and supported his mother, Chandrika, while living with her in a trailer as she battled breast cancer.

Dealing with financial hardships, Decoud recalled going months without electricity or water.

"We used to eat hot sauce sandwiches if we didn't have any food to eat," Decoud said. "We got by however we could. I used to look forward to those school lunches and breakfast. I couldn't wait to get in there to eat."

Decoud dealt with all the frustrations and difficulties by excelling in sports. He was an all-district selection at four positions in football at Lakeshore High School in Mandeville, La. He also qualified for the state track and field championships as a sprinter during his junior and senior years.

"I was usually with my mom, but I always moved around," said Decoud, who attended four colleges. "It happened to be like that for me in college, too, going from college to college to college. Now that I'm with the Houston Texans, hopefully I can work my way up and not have to move around. Hopefully, that journey and all that travel is done. I thank God for blessing me and helping me overcome all those tragedies."

Academic problems cost Decoud prime scholarship opportunities at Texas Tech and Southern Mississippi.

Decoud wound up being a partial academic qualifier for a Division II school: Chadron State in Nebraska.

When his mother's cancer returned during his sophomore year, he decided to transfer to Nicholls State in Louisiana to be closer to home.

Mom said stick with it

Decoud contemplated quitting the sport when he was declared ineligible by the NCAA after going through spring football, but his mother convinced him to stick it out.

"I thought it was over for good," Decoud said. "I was really down, but my mom told me that I had to stay on my path."

Today, his mother is free of cancer and her son is a full-fledged NFL player.

"That was definitely one of the toughest things I had to deal with," Decoud said. "I transferred to be close to her and then I went to junior college and she got a little sick again. I kept battling and she kept battling.

"Thank God she's 100 percent now. It's just a blessing. She's 100 percent better. She's working. Everybody is good in my family."

Because of his eligibility problems, Decoud transferred to Northwest Mississippi Junior College. They didn't initially have a scholarship available for him, but he enrolled anyway.

Decoud won a starting job within days, intercepting six passes that season and returning one for a touchdown in a homecoming game against Itawamba. He was named a first-team All-American. It was enough to intrigue Oregon State recruiters, who became enamored of Decoud's combination of size, athleticism and aggressiveness. He intercepted two passes, recorded 58 tackles and broke up 10 passes as a senior and was named honorable-mention All-Pac-12.

Before that could happen Decoud dealt with more adversity.

As a junior against Colorado, Decoud collided with teammate Dwayne Williams and was knocked unconscious for several minutes and was taken off the field on a stretcher and transported to the hospital. Oregon State coach Gary Andersen urged Decoud to take precautions with his health and not rush back. He wound up missing two games.

"That was definitely scary," Decoud said. "I had never had a concussion until then. I was knocked out and not moving. You wake up the next day and you don't know if you're going to ever play football again. I know coach Anderson and all my coaches were really concerned about my health.

"They made sure I was straight. I appreciate those guys. They showed me they really cared about me. I feel like that was kind of a wake-up call for me from God. It showed me I needed to keep growing as a man and not take anything for granted."

Decoud has never backed down from a challenge.

He effectively shadowed Cal star wide receiver Chad Hansen, limiting him to four receptions for 16 yards. He returned an interception 75 yards for a touchdown against Idaho State.

With the Texans, Decoud is intent on imposing his will as a large cornerback. He's listed at 6-3, 210 pounds, making him the biggest cornerback on the roster.

"He is a longer corner with some press ability, might even be able to play safety," Texans general manager Rick Smith said. "He is an aggressive tackler, so we like that skill set with him."

A cousin of former NFL safety Thomas Decoud, Decoud has 33-inch arms and has run the 40-yard dash in 4.57 seconds.

"I have to learn to use my feet and not just rely on my length," Decoud said. "It's the NFL. Everybody's fast. Everybody's strong. Once I get used to that, I should be good. I'm staying on my drills to try to get faster and more explosive.

"I want to look as fast and quick as a 5-10 guy. I keep working on my short-area quickness. I'm making sure I'm staying in shape and working on the things I need to, so I can come into training camp and show what I can do.

Body art reveals roots

Decoud has a large tattoo on his left forearm with the words "Dream Team" in block letters. The backdrop is the New Orleans skyline and the Mercedes-Benz Superdome, home of the Saints.

Decoud got the tattoo as part of his friendship with other Louisiana youth determined to play college football, get an education and make it out of their neighborhoods. The body art tells a story of his roots and his uncommon path to pro football.

"Everything I've been through has made me stronger and wiser," Decoud said. "I'm glad I went through it all. I don't regret nothing. If I didn't go through those struggles, I don't know who I would be or what I would be. God put me through those struggles for a reason. I don't know what it was for exactly, but I think it's for me to do what I need to do to be successful in life."
 
With a name like his you knew before being told that he was from the Bayou Country.
 
Very underwhelmed watching his highlights on youtube. His pass break ups would very likely be PI in the NFL. More of a dragger than a tackler. Looks clunky on the field.

Non-rap fans, please mute:
 
That's why he was a 5th and not a 1st! It's up to the coaches to turn this lump of coal into a diamond in the rough. Time will tell. Safety may be his best position as well.
 
Cannot remember where I read or heard but plan is for him to get solid look at corner to rule out before trying him at safety. I wish I could verify that source. Gives us something to watch for in preseason. I'd like to see TD set up foundation and team with some businesses to feed kids. McNair could hook him up with restaurants to provide meals.
 
Cannot remember where I read or heard but plan is for him to get solid look at corner to rule out before trying him at safety. I wish I could verify that source. Gives us something to watch for in preseason. I'd like to see TD set up foundation and team with some businesses to feed kids. McNair could hook him up with restaurants to provide meals.

Let him learn one position in TC. No need to make the same mistake with him that we did with Sua-Filo. He's already behind the learning curve due to the academic rule.
 
Let him learn one position in TC. No need to make the same mistake with him that we did with Sua-Filo. He's already behind the learning curve due to the academic rule.

Each player is different. The coaches need to be able to determine what a player can & can't handle.

If he's ready for Algebra, feeding him 7th grade math will stunt his growth more than "struggling with Algebra.
 
Each player is different. The coaches need to be able to determine what a player can & can't handle.

If he's ready for Algebra, feeding him 7th grade math will stunt his growth more than "struggling with Algebra.

But you don't want to teach him Algebra, Calculus and Physics all at the same time
 
But you don't want to teach him Algebra, Calculus and Physics all at the same time

Now, now. We aren't all cut out for Antifa curriculums. (I took one non-science class the entire time I was at Cal.)

My son will shortly be joining me at UT. Lol, he only has 26 hours credit so didn't quite match my 33. He thinks he fell short and I’m so proud. Son, just take the class. But you have to keep them a little off center. His sister knows how proud I am. She's not letting on either.
 
But you don't want to teach him Algebra, Calculus and Physics all at the same time

It's for the coaches to decide if he's ready for it. Just because one guy doesn't do well with a particular program doesn't mean we treat everyone with remedial curriculum.

I'd have to sit down with him for hours to find out what he's mentally capable of. Work him out several times to determine what he is physically capable of. Then I'll test him again & again, mentally & physically. Push him, f8nd out what he's comfortable with, then push him some more.

I haven't done this with him. The coaches have. If they think he's ready, then they should push him to his max & help him become the nest he can be. If they don't... they don't.

If he fails, if they fail... they fail.
 
It's for the coaches to decide if he's ready for it. Just because one guy doesn't do well with a particular program doesn't mean we treat everyone with remedial curriculum.

I'd have to sit down with him for hours to find out what he's mentally capable of. Work him out several times to determine what he is physically capable of. Then I'll test him again & again, mentally & physically. Push him, f8nd out what he's comfortable with, then push him some more.

I haven't done this with him. The coaches have. If they think he's ready, then they should push him to his max & help him become the nest he can be. If they don't... they don't.

If he fails, if they fail... they fail.

Not sure what you are saying here, but if you push him to learn more than one position at a time you'll probably waste a year just like happened with X. It could even be more disastrous
 
Agreed but if it is possible he can play corner at that size you have to know that; safety is back up plan and he is not expected to start as X was.

Sure I understand that, but don't try to make him learn both in the same training camp. If he can't get on the field at corner, give him a try at safety next year. Or if you see early in camp that he won't make it at corner then try him at safety. But give him a little stability and make it as simple as possible for him. He's a fifth rounder not a Peterson or a Thomas. Don't expect great things early, especially with him missing all of OTA's
 
JB my thinking is not to look at him just in TC to decide as he is not expected to start. Push him at CB and some training at safety. TC and preseason gives enough time to see if corner is possibility (I think it is). If not, they should be able to rule him out reasonably quickly. It is not enough time to teach him to be NFL corner yet more than enough to see if can play there.
 
JB my thinking is not to look at him just in TC to decide as he is not expected to start. Push him at CB and some training at safety. TC and preseason gives enough time to see if corner is possibility (I think it is). If not, they should be able to rule him out reasonably quickly. It is not enough time to teach him to be NFL corner yet more than enough to see if can play there.

I get ya.. I guess it depends on what they want from him. Give him a bit of classroom in both slowly, and maybe let him do a hybrid role in the first training camp and see where he excels.

But not pressured to be both
 
Not sure what you are saying here, but if you push him to learn more than one position at a time you'll probably waste a year just like happened with X. It could even be more disastrous

I think the real danger is in not pushing him. Failure is an opportunity to grow.

If the coaches think he's ready... & this may very well be the reason they selected him.

Again, just because one player didn't do well learning multiple positions shouldn't mean we stop asking our players, even rookies, to learn multiple positions.

& it's not like we're asking him to play LG, C, & OT. We're asking him to play zone, or man coverage which is something both Corners & Safeties need to do. Yeah, there are differences. But we don't know where we're going to need this guy. We may need him to fill in at corner. We most likely will need him at safety. & we need a safety who can play like a corner against the New TEs in the league.
 
How did Sua Filo lose a year?

As a rookie he played in 13 games and started 1. He had injury and conditioning issues supposedly and still ended up starting half way through his second season.
 
There is not one description of his college play that makes me think he has the tools to play CB in the NFL. He will lose all of his advantanges if he is not allowed to begin his play way way off the receivers closing towards the LOS (saftey) rather than trying to stay up with or to close on a receiver while his is going away from the LOS (CB).
 
There is not one description of his college play that makes me think he has the tools to play CB in the NFL. He will lose all of his advantanges if he is not allowed to begin his play way way off the receivers closing towards the LOS (saftey) rather than trying to stay up with or to close on a receiver while his is going away from the LOS (CB).

Scheme will definitely play a big part in it.

New England made Devon McCarty look like a Pro Bowl CB before moving him to safety.
 
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