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What do you say we forget Romo?

TripleTap

TripleTap

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OK, I know there's a Romo thread, but that one's about getting him to play for us. That might be good, or it might be nothing more than we've already seen if the real problem is the offense.

In any case, he's not a lead pipe cinch he'll be great or even good in O'Brien's offense.

In addition, the ONLY reason to get Romo is the wishful thought he might take the team to the SB.

Now think about that. How are we gonna feel if we get to the SB with Dallas's QB?

So why not just forget Romo, move on, make some kind of move in the remaining FA for a QB to challenge Savage, and trade up in draft to get one of the decent QBs, too.

Jerrah is making us look like fools at the moment. Anything we can do to return the favor?
 
Corrosion

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TripleTap said:
OK, I know there's a Romo thread, but that one's about getting him to play for us. That might be good, or it might be nothing more than we've already seen if the real problem is the offense.

In any case, he's not a lead pipe cinch he'll be great or even good in O'Brien's offense.

In addition, the ONLY reason to get Romo is the wishful thought he might take the team to the SB.

Now think about that. How are we gonna feel if we get to the SB with Dallas's QB?

So why not just forget Romo, move on, make some kind of move in the remaining FA for a QB to challenge Savage, and trade up in draft to get one of the decent QBs, too.

Jerrah is making us look like fools at the moment. Anything we can do to return the favor?
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I'd be happier than a punk in a pecker plant if we made it to the superbowl .... no matter who the Texans quarterback happened to be.
 
TheMatrix31

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What the **** do I care if we get to the Super Bowl "with Dallas' QB"?

A) He wouldn't be their QB anymore.

B) There is no actual rivalry between the Texans and the Cowboys.

Maybe it's different because I don't live in Texas, but I don't spend even a second of thought on the Cowboys as they relate to the Texans and I never have.
 
maverick512000

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TheMatrix31 said:
What the **** do I care if we get to the Super Bowl "with Dallas' QB"?

A) He wouldn't be their QB anymore.

B) There is no actual rivalry between the Texans and the Cowboys.

Maybe it's different because I don't live in Texas, but I don't spend even a second of thought on the Cowboys as they relate to the Texans and I never have.
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It is different when you live in Texas, trust me there is a huge rivalry. Maybe not in the way the NFL is split up but in the minds of the fans and in terms of local news coverage there is a big time rivalry.

That being said let me turn this around and say how awesome the bragging rights would be if after 13 seasons Romo doesn't even see the big game and then he comes to Houston and goes to and maybe even wins a SB. Yeah that would be the worst embarrassment the Texans have handed the Cowboys since they won that very first game.

Ultimately I think that's what Jerrah is scared of, that a Romo lead Houston would still all his thunder after the big season last year. Also I disagree that he is making us look like fools, everything I'm seeing people are saying he's living in a fantasy world thinking he'll get a pick for Romo. Also can't help but think this might bite him in the ass down the road when the next big name player is looking elsewhere.

If I'm a Cowboy player and I saw the way Romo is being treated after 13 years of loyalty yeah that's going to make me think twice about doing anything to help the team next time my contract is up.
 
maverick512000

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Corrosion said:
Speak for yourself .... I live in Texas , there is no rivalry. Cant be one .... The teams only play once every 4 years and we've never met in a game that matters.
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This isn't a matter of "speaking for myself" this is just listening to football fans around me. I've worked construction all my life and even before I watched football after the Texans were created the big thing was the fans arguing over who was the true Texas football team.

Just because you don't see it that way doesn't mean a lot of other people don't. Seriously walk into any construction site lunch room, ask who the best team in Texas is and then grab some popcorn and watch the show.
 
infantrycak

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maverick512000 said:
It is different when you live in Texas, trust me there is a huge rivalry.
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There is only a rivalry in the minds of some Houston fans. Dallas fans generally ignore Houston or root for them as a Texas team. And like Corrosion said they rarely play.

In Dallas you never hear people say 'this weekend I'm rooting for the Cowboys and whoever plays Houston.' You will hear people talk about how cool an all Texas SB would be. It's a one sided non-rivalry.

By the way, I grew up a Cowboys fan in Dallas.
 
sandman

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infantrycak said:
There is only a rivalry in the minds of some Houston fans. Dallas fans generally ignore Houston or root for them as a Texas team. And like Corrosion said they rarely play.

In Dallas you never hear people say 'this weekend I'm rooting for the Cowboys and whoever plays Houston.' You will hear people talk about how cool an all Texas SB would be. It's a one sided non-rivalry.

By the way, I grew up a Cowboys fan in Dallas.
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This. I grew up a Cowboys fan in San Antonio. The vast majority of my family are still Cowboys fans. There is not one ounce of smack talk out of them about Houston specifically, even though they have been insufferable in general in the last few years. To them the 19-10 game was just one of many losses in a 3-year streak of 5-11 seasons.
 
thunderkyss

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Corrosion said:
Speak for yourself .... I live in Texas , there is no rivalry. Cant be one .... The teams only play once every 4 years and we've never met in a game that matters.
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& neither team has done anything that mattered since 2002. Neither team has any accomplishments to brag about.
 
TheMatrix31

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There's different kinds of rivalries:

Geographical
Divisional
Playoff
Personal
Cultural
Stature

The Cowboys and Texans are only one of these, and don't nearly cross paths enough for it to matter much.
 
Corrosion

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Sigma said:
what are you talking about?

Division Champions 4 times in the last 6 years

:kitten:
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What's a division championship count for in the grand scheme of things .... JACK sh!t. Great you get a first round playoff game , maybe at home.


Aint but one trophy that matters ....
 
sandman

sandman

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Corrosion said:
What's a division championship count for in the grand scheme of things .... JACK sh!t. Great you get a first round playoff game , maybe at home.


Aint but one trophy that matters ....
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So if the SB trophy is the definition of success, and anything other than the SB trophy is the definition of failure, why are not more HC's and GM's getting fired every year?

Specifically, why wasn't Bill Bellicheck fired when he didn't win a SB between 2004 and 2014? The Texans went through three HC's and two GM's during this time frame when both teams were failures for nine straight years.
 
Thorn

Thorn

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If we end up with Dallas's QB, we won't shoot him until AFTER he wins the SB for us. How's that for a compromise?

And for the record, I don't think Romo is the magic elixir some of us think he is. Would he be helpful? Yes. Is he over rated? Yes.
 
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Corrosion said:
Speak for yourself .... I live in Texas , there is no rivalry. Cant be one .... The teams only play once every 4 years and we've never met in a game that matters.
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Agree with that assessment, still there seems to be a lot of envy on the part of many Texans fans which I guess is because of the greater pub and attention the Cowboys receive ?
Not being from Texas I don't get the thing many fans here in Houston have with the Cowboys, you know strong sentiments either plus or minus ?
They are truly the Kardasians of the NFL in the sense their accomplishments fall way short of the hype they receive. The great NFL franchise of our time, of this century is of course the Patriots. Now I admire them and respect them.
I do wish we had a real NFL rivalry with another team which is why I was hopeful the Raiders might actually end up in San Antonio which would make for the opportunity through a division realignment for an real I-10 competition if we were to end up in the same division.
 
Sigma

Sigma

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Corrosion said:
What's a division championship count for in the grand scheme of things .... JACK sh!t. Great you get a first round playoff game , maybe at home.

Aint but one trophy that matters ....
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I was being sarcastic of course :)

Actually, I would go a step further and say that it is detrimental to win division titles when clearly you don't have any chance to do good in the playoffs, because it makes it more difficult to address the problems.

"if it ain't broken, don't fix it" right?

we went 14-2 and there were some changes, now we had 3 straight winning seasons, so the team might give the impression of not needing to be fixed

and I expect this season to be the same, unwatchable regular season + 1 playoff win in the wildcard round + 1 close loss in the divisional round.

the close loss will be the signal that we are "getting better" and then wait 1 year, rinse and repeat
 
HOU-TEX

HOU-TEX

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I've never been a fan of OB's "game-planning" offense. If it were any more boring it'd be akin to running the veer.

That said, while I wouldn't be disappointed if OB is whacked, it's hard for me to fully condemn him and his offense until he has a QB that doesn't suck to the levels we've seen. I do blame him and the FO for failing to find our QB. Garappolo could've easily been drafted in the 2nd over X
 
PapaL

PapaL

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I wouldn't give a damn if the QB was Romo, Egghead Manning, Pouting Tom, or 20 yard sack Keenum if they got us to the SB. How are we going to be picky when we haven't won ****?
 
cuppacoffee

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infantrycak said:
Yeah, going to the playoffs almost every year and winning SBs really sucked.

More on topic, maybe instead of blaming the talent we should look to upgrade our very inexperienced OL coach.
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I didn't realize you were that old. :)

:coffee:
 
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justtxyank

justtxyank

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There isn't a rivalry really between the teams, but there is is a rivalry between some fans regarding the cities. In general there is an inferiority/superiority complex clash between some people in Dallas and Houston.

A lot of the Facebook conversations, as an example, always end up with the same personal shots between the fanbases. Dallas fans mocking Houston for being a dirty city, Houston calling people from Dallas "fake", etc. It spills across all major sports. Jokes about Dallas being "South Oklahoma" and stuff like that.
 
Texecutioner

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Corrosion said:
I'd be happier than a punk in a pecker plant if we made it to the superbowl .... no matter who the Texans quarterback happened to be.
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Unfortunately we know that Romo is the only guy out there that could "maybe" get them there if a lot of things fell in place.
 
steelbtexan

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infantrycak said:
Yeah, going to the playoffs almost every year and winning SBs really sucked.

More on topic, maybe instead of blaming the talent we should look to upgrade our very inexperienced OL coach.
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Agreed

But Clark/Allen were really bad last yr.
 
michaelm

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Corrosion said:
What's a division championship count for in the grand scheme of things .... JACK sh!t. Great you get a first round playoff game , maybe at home.


Aint but one trophy that matters ....
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Division champions always have a home game in the first round of the playoffs.

1&2 seeds - Bye
3&4 seeds host 5&6 seed wildcard teams
 
thunderkyss

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steelbtexan said:
Agreed

But Clark/Allen were really bad last yr.
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I appreciated everthing we got out of Clark. Like Ephraim Salaam, dude's a true warrior.

Hopefully we get a true starter at RT, the Clark can play the role he was brought here to play. Swing tackle.

& I'd be very confident in our depth.
 
steelbtexan

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thunderkyss said:
I appreciated everthing we got out of Clark. Like Ephraim Salaam, dude's a true warrior.

Hopefully we get a true starter at RT, the Clark can play the role he was brought here to play. Swing tackle.

& I'd be very confident in our depth.
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What on earth would make you confident in the depth of the OL after seeing them last yr? Who is the backup OT? Hopefully somebody that's a lot better than Clark. In fact it would be a great idea to pick 2 OL in this draft.
 
Norg

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if BOB and esp Mcnair don't bring in Collin kapernick at least for a look does that prove that they hold there personal Opinions above giving the team a better chance to win ..???
 
Shishkabob

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Norg said:
if BOB and esp Mcnair don't bring in Collin kapernick at least for a look does that prove that they hold there personal Opinions above giving the team a better chance to win ..???
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Has anyone brought in Kapernick for a look yet? Bottom line is this is a business they own it so it can make them money. Right or wrong they will lose a considerable amount of fan support just by signing the guy, that leads to loss in revenue. He hasn't been good in years, his arm looked shot when I watched him last year I just don't see the benefit into bringing him in from any FO point of view. I applaud Kap for doing what he believed in and starting a movement that got people talking, unfortunately he has made himself un employable for probably most of the NFL
 
sandman

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Dutchrudder said:
Yeah, that should be the pervading thought. I bet even SteelB would become a fan of Rick Smith if Rick suited up as the starting QB and led them to the Super Bowl.
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You mean if Rick Smith suited up as the starting QB and WON the Super Bowl. He ain't given "Ricky" credit for anything short of that.
 
Sigma

Sigma

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Dutchrudder said:
Yeah, that should be the pervading thought. I bet even SteelB would become a fan of Rick Smith if Rick suited up as the starting QB and led them to the Super Bowl.
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for god's sake don't give the texans those kind of ideas, you never know who reads this MB... they might actually do that
 
Norg

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on the Kap thing I just think has it stands now he would be a upgrade on what we have

Savage didn't really light the world on fire on the cincy game was a miss FG away from losing ... didn't really do nothing for the Tenn game

and weeden COme on PLZZZ ... he just a savy ol vet with a weaker Arm and lack of mobility

im not saying bring in Kap im saying bring in ROMO and Kap has the backup or really bring in SOmebody have 3 QBS and dump weeden IMO
 
Double Barrel

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A lot of us *ahem* "older" fans were raised to be Cowboys haters by our parents, especially if they were Oilers fans.

And honestly, it came from envy and a bit of resentment from the "America's Team" moniker.

When I realized this as a grown man - mainly due to these forums - I cut that crap out. Why resent someone else because our city has a shitty football history?

And to be quite honest, I dreaded watching Brock so much last season that I found myself enjoying Cowboys games. That doesn't make me a Cowboys fan, but I'm certainly no longer a hater. . .

I'd love it if Romo was our football savior. I have serious doubts about it, but I would definitely enjoy it if it happened.
 
C

chenjy9

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Fellow Texan (Houston, Midland, Brownfield, Houston again, and finally Austin) all my life here chiming in. There is no rivalry between Texans and Cowboys. Never has been, never will be. Maybe if we played each other more, there might be one, but as of now and the foreseeable future, nada. Hell, there is a bigger rivalry between the Rockets (hell, even Spurs fans) and Mavs fans than there is between Texans and Cowboys. That said, there IS a general distaste between a lot of Houstonians and Dallas folks where we just plain don't like each other. We come up with stuff (there is only H-Town, ain't no D-Town) and they copy it.
 
Thorn

Thorn

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Do I really need a reason to dislike the Cowboys? Can't I just dislike them for no other reason than "just 'cause"?
 
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