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Garett Bolles-OT-UTAH

jradMIT

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JUCO All American tackle and top JUCO recruit played one year in FBS at Utah. Had a troubled upbringing but embraced religion and turned his life around. He is older at 24 and will be 25 by next season. I read a couple of scouting reports and watched a couple of games of him (UCLA, USC). Has a decent frame at 6-5 300. If the Texans are lucky enough for him to be there at #25, he could fill the hole at RT and eventually replace Brown at LT. Watching the tape of him two things jump out, his athleticism and his nastiness.

Against ULCA he pretty much handled McKinley another 1st round prospect, the plays McKinley mad primarily came against the RT.

Watching Bolles, he has great feet and quickness, whether in pass pro or pulling he moves well and locks in very quickly. Also the few times he gets beaten during runs, his athleticism allows him to quickly recover. He flies to the 2nd level and makes blocks all over the field, he frequently pulled and was laying out tackles to safeties. Even when he loses his footing, he's able to lunch and punch at defender's feet and knock them down. His athleticism gives him a high ceiling.

If you like line play, Bolles is a joy to watch, he has the desirable "mean streak" for sure. From snap to whistle he is like a machine, non stop, punishing the defense for being on the field with him. You often seeing him riding guys to the ground well out of the play. He plays with great energy.

Sometimes he does get sloppy with his technique and gets beaten on inside spin moves. He could definitely add some weight and strength to his frame. Since he wasn't in an FBS program longer than a year, you would think he has lots of room to fill out.

Bottom line this guy is a diamond in the rough in my opinion but has enough ability to start at right tackle from jump. He could replace Brown in a few years and become a force once he maxes out his frame. He also has a great back story and has come from a terrible situation to be on the precipice of success.
 

steelbtexan

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I doubt any of the top 3 OT's make it to #25. All of them are good with potential to be starting LT's for a decade. I was one of the 1st to call for Bolles to be the Texans pick at #25 in one of my past mocks. He would bring a nastiness that the Texans OL is sorely missing. He's moved up the boards and probably wont fall.

You should search for some of my past mocks.
 

jradMIT

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I doubt any of the top 3 OT's make it to #25. All of them are good with potential to be starting LT's for a decade. I was one of the 1st to call for Bolles to be the Texans pick at #25 in one of my past mocks. He would bring a nastiness that the Texans OL is sorely missing. He's moved up the boards and probably wont fall.

You should search for some of my past mocks.
Accolades aside, Cam Robinson was very unimpressive to me, look sluggish and unathletic. He was often covered by the TE in passing situations, and had help. Didn't show good feet, couldn't land a block on the second level without falling down most of the time. I think he is vastly overrated. Looks like a guard to me honestly, doesn't look like LT material to me in the league. I wouldn't touch him in the first two rounds, buyer beware.
 

beerlover

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Mcshay just mocked Bolles #25 to the Texans.

As we have discussed, being a legit LT prospect, doubt he is available :shades:
 

jradMIT

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Mcshay just mocked Bolles #25 to the Texans.

As we have discussed, being a legit LT prospect, doubt he is available :shades:
I know age is a concern and short track record, but this OT class is so light at the top. The Broncos seem to be as far as one of these guys will drop.
 

Texian

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Top OT in the draft in my book. Would love to have him but i don't think he'll be there.
Mcshay just mocked Bolles #25 to the Texans.

As we have discussed, being a legit LT prospect, doubt he is available :shades:
Right now Bolles is penciled in as my 1st rd pick for the Texans. However I won't make any final decision until after the Combine. The Combine is one the best separators of talent for OL for me. Not a fan of McShay at all but we share opinions here. You now who else is a big fan of Bolles, Mike Mayock (who I do have highest respect for). By the time the draft rolls around this guy could be a top 20 pick. Think Kyle Long.

https://twitter.com/MikeMayock/status/828989969754644480

https://twitter.com/MikeMayock/status/828978735638519808

https://twitter.com/MikeMayock/status/828991401123799041
 
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Insideop

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To me, Bolles would be a perfect OT in a "Zone Blocking" scheme and that could make him a prime target for the Broncos. Notice I said could. Since Kubes left I'm not sure what type of scheme they will run, heck I don't even know who their OC is anymore. Anyway, I was thinking that they would have been, and still may be, the team that picks Bolles at #20 since their O-line has been bad and they have been looking for OT's. I think they were very disappointed in Okung (FA pickup from Seahawks). With Joseph in there now I'm wondering if they may go Defense in the 1st. Texian is right though, after the Combine he may be out of reach for us.
 

steelbtexan

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Accolades aside, Cam Robinson was very unimpressive to me, look sluggish and unathletic. He was often covered by the TE in passing situations, and had help. Didn't show good feet, couldn't land a block on the second level without falling down most of the time. I think he is vastly overrated. Looks like a guard to me honestly, doesn't look like LT material to me in the league. I wouldn't touch him in the first two rounds, buyer beware.
Fair enough, what I see is a huge powerful guy who will make a great RT. He will be a serviceable LT. Most plays he was really good at LT, but 4-5 plays a game he got off balance, got beat and looked really bad. IMHO
 

jradMIT

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Fair enough, what I see is a huge powerful guy who will make a great RT. He will be a serviceable LT. Most plays he was really good at LT, but 4-5 plays a game he got off balance, got beat and looked really bad. IMHO
I might have watched a bad game, but his pass pro just doesn't look good enough against the speed rush.

It is something the be said about playing LT for Alabama, lot of chips by TE and backs, opposing pass rushers have to be wary of the run and have to throttle the initial rush a bit.

He isn't nearly as regarded as Greg Robinson was coming out(relation?), and Greg has mightily struggled and might be moving to guard. I think playing for the tide compensates a lot for these guy's weaknesses in pass pro.

When I see Cam, I see a hugely powerful guy who could be amazing in the phone booth, but on the bookends I just don't see how he is gonna be able to handle athletic OLBs and stunts, etc. I think guard might be the way to go for him.


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badboy

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I don't think Ive seen a mock with more than two OTs selected before Houston. I think if Ram is healthy, he and Robinson (don't want him) will go top 24 leaving Bolles for us. I still like Skipper day two; dude out hustles all which is crazy at his size. Bending is not a problem
 

Insideop

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I don't think Ive seen a mock with more than two OTs selected before Houston. I think if Ram is healthy, he and Robinson (don't want him) will go top 24 leaving Bolles for us. I still like Skipper day two; dude out hustles all which is crazy at his size. Bending is not a problem
I don't know if this plays out. Robinson seems to be dropping further down and could drop out of the 1st rd after the Combine. Other than Denver, I'm not sure which other teams are looking for OT's that are drafting ahead of the Texans, but if Ramczyk and Bolles are both gone who do they go for next? Lamp, Robinson, Garcia, or a player from another position?
 

IDEXAN

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I doubt any of the top 3 OT's make it to #25. All of them are good with potential to be starting LT's for a decade. I was one of the 1st to call for Bolles to be the Texans pick at #25 in one of my past mocks. He would bring a nastiness that the Texans OL is sorely missing. He's moved up the boards and probably wont fall.

You should search for some of my past mocks.
A nasty Mormon, you mean like that other nasty Mormon LG X Su’a-Filo ? The X-man has been a big disappointment to date. And this kid has also had some real issues with dope and McNair don't usually like those kind of folks on his teams. On paper I like him but he's got some real character issues in his past.
 

gs27

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I don't think Ive seen a mock with more than two OTs selected before Houston. I think if Ram is healthy, he and Robinson (don't want him) will go top 24 leaving Bolles for us. I still like Skipper day two; dude out hustles all which is crazy at his size. Bending is not a problem
I like Skipper also. Bisnowaty, Skipper, and Holden are my favorites. IMO the top rated OTs in the class are no better than these 3. Hoping we land one of them in the 3rd or 4th. Ricky Wagner would be a great pickup, and add his linemate from Wisci, Kevin Zeitler. Defense is loaded at top of 2017 draft, go get a difference maker to take D to another level.
 

jradMIT

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I like Skipper also. Bisnowaty, Skipper, and Holden are my favorites. IMO the top rated OTs in the class are no better than these 3. Hoping we land one of them in the 3rd or 4th. Ricky Wagner would be a great pickup, and add his linemate from Wisci, Kevin Zeitler. Defense is loaded at top of 2017 draft, go get a difference maker to take D to another level.
Bolles character stuff was from way before he started playing ball. He's married now with a kid, I would be more worried about Robinson's stuff it's much more recent. I'm sure the will do their due diligence on both, even for this team I don't think Bolles stuff is a disqualification especially considering the circumstances of his upbringing.

I agree I'd rather get Wagner and zeitler and target the best defender on the board, there is real scarcity especially at pass rush, especially if Reddick, charlton, McKinley or even on of the many dbs like Lewis.


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JB

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Bolles character stuff was from way before he started playing ball. He's married now with a kid, I would be more worried about Robinson's stuff it's much more recent. I'm sure the will do their due diligence on both, even for this team I don't think Bolles stuff is a disqualification especially considering the circumstances of his upbringing.

I agree I'd rather get Wagner and zeitler and target the best defender on the board, there is real scarcity especially at pass rush, especially if Reddick, charlton, McKinley or even on of the many dbs like Lewis.


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badboy

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I don't know if this plays out. Robinson seems to be dropping further down and could drop out of the 1st rd after the Combine. Other than Denver, I'm not sure which other teams are looking for OT's that are drafting ahead of the Texans, but if Ramczyk and Bolles are both gone who do they go for next? Lamp, Robinson, Garcia, or a player from another position?
I think Robinson goes ahead of Bolles; he had huge audience every week and played for #1 college team all season. He is not bad just not exciting to me. I would not spend much time on his dropping before combine. It was hard for me to agree with others on Ram as I just did not see him doing more than just getting by. On edge rushers, Ram barely kept up following opponent back to QB in pocket. Most rate him high technically but I did not see that; he only has one year under his belt as does Bolles so both should get better. I am very leery of players with serious injuries in their history (why I'm not high on TJ Watt despite a great 2016).Garcia I did not watch so have only others opinions + film. I would go Davenport over Garcia. I support and have mocked two OTs this draft but am changing on that. As much as I cringe at D Browns health and he turns 32 this August, I am hopeful he will be serviceable one more season. I keep looking at the $9.7 million cap we can use if he is gone..but only if a better replacement is available. A college LT drafted to play RT 2017 then moving to replace DB perhaps is way to go. We would then have to draft RT in 2018.

Philly's Wentz may spend off season in owner's ear screaming for line help. LT is 35 & $11.5 m cap cost '17 & '18. RT Lane Johnson coming off 10 game suspension is just a performance-enhancing drug away from being out of NFL. (2014 he had 4 g "time out"). I could see them selecting Robinson or Ram round one then more options in second selecting WR.
 

badboy

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There's scarcity at impact defensive players. I'd like to solidify the offensive line first as well and target some of the players above.


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Not sure if you are labeling all D players or just the line; either way I think you are wrong on impact guys. OLBs McKinley, Tim Williams and Reddick; ILBs McMillan, Jarrad Davis, Anthony Walker & if healed Washington's Azeem Walker. DTs Caleb Brantley, Carlos Watkins, Alabama's Tomlinson, Montravius Adams, Jarron Jones (possible 4th rounder). DEs Taco Charlton, Demarcus Walker, Hunter Dimick and Daeshon Hall.

If wanted we could draft four of these rounds 1 thru 4. I do agree we should solidify Oline but that can be done. Wonder if we have better options for Oline in free agency than last off season?
 

TheRealJoker

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Not sure if you are labeling all D players or just the line; either way I think you are wrong on impact guys. OLBs McKinley, Tim Williams and Reddick; ILBs McMillan, Jarrad Davis, Anthony Walker & if healed Washington's Azeem Walker. DTs Caleb Brantley, Carlos Watkins, Alabama's Tomlinson, Montravius Adams, Jarron Jones (possible 4th rounder). DEs Taco Charlton, Demarcus Walker, Hunter Dimick and Daeshon Hall.

If wanted we could draft four of these rounds 1 thru 4. I do agree we should solidify Oline but that can be done. Wonder if we have better options for Oline in free agency than last off season?
Last offseason you had guys like Osemele, Brandon Brooks and Alex Mack available on the interior. Not sure but was Donald Penn a free agent last offseason?
 

jradMIT

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Not sure if you are labeling all D players or just the line; either way I think you are wrong on impact guys. OLBs McKinley, Tim Williams and Reddick; ILBs McMillan, Jarrad Davis, Anthony Walker & if healed Washington's Azeem Walker. DTs Caleb Brantley, Carlos Watkins, Alabama's Tomlinson, Montravius Adams, Jarron Jones (possible 4th rounder). DEs Taco Charlton, Demarcus Walker, Hunter Dimick and Daeshon Hall.

If wanted we could draft four of these rounds 1 thru 4. I do agree we should solidify Oline but that can be done. Wonder if we have better options for Oline in free agency than last off season?
FA tackle is pretty slim pickings, Rick Wagner, Andrew Whitworth, are the two players, Whitworth is 35 and plays left tackle, Wagner is the choice but he will cost around 9-10M a year. There are some lesser guys like Reily Reif, Kalil. At guard however, there are a lot of studs available Zeitler, Leary, TJ Lang, Warford, all guys who can play and will command high dollars.
 

badboy

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With Robinson falling (I still have him being selected before Texans)Ram seems to be ranked first among OTs despite his surgery [see link below]. I know his surgery was Jan 5th and supposedly not as bad as it could have been. Still, "abnormal wearing" in hip joint of a 310+ lb. NFL OT is very much a concern and one I hope we don't have to experience. CBSsports.com Rang and Brugler have Denver taking Ram at #20 as first LT drafted which is great for my board. Also, Rang has Robinson to us. Mayock has him as 2nd best OG which I can see. IMO, Cam Robinson has little ceiling so what you see is what you get. I'm still mocking Bolles #25.

Ramczyk said he suffered the injury "toward the beginning of the season" but that it hasn't kept him from practicing or playing. He described the injury as a "hip impingement," which occurs when the ball and socket of the hip joint don't fit together properly because of abnormal wearing. The injury causes increased friction during hip movements and can damage the joint if left untreated.]
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18327110/wisconsin-badgers-left-tackle-ryan-ramczyk-confirms-hip-injury

Wisconsin T Ryan Ramczyk (hip) will attend the NFL Combine to take part in the interview and measurement processes.
He won't, however, be on the field after undergoing surgery on Jan. 5 to repair a damaged right hip. "The surgeon said there was less damage than he expected and it went well," Ramczyk said. "I won't be able to test (physically) at the (NFL) combine, but I'll be there for all the interviews and test and measurements." Ramczyk earned First Team All-Big Ten honors and consensus All-American honors last year. He also received a first-round grade from the NFL Advisory Committee. Feb 13 - 3:56 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/137052/ryan-ramczyk
 

jradMIT

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Per ROTOWORLD

Utah T Garett Bolles arrived at the NFL Combine at 6-foot-5 and 297-pounds.

Bolles also has 34-inch arms and 9 3/8-inch hands. The 24-year-old Utah tackle is expected to be one of the top athletes among offensive linemen, if not the top. Many suggest he could land as a top 20 pick, but others might be turned off due to the sub-300 pound weight.


Hopefully the weight will have him drop to us.
 

Texian

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Per ROTOWORLD

Utah T Garett Bolles arrived at the NFL Combine at 6-foot-5 and 297-pounds.

Bolles also has 34-inch arms and 9 3/8-inch hands. The 24-year-old Utah tackle is expected to be one of the top athletes among offensive linemen, if not the top. Many suggest he could land as a top 20 pick, but others might be turned off due to the sub-300 pound weight.


Hopefully the weight will have him drop to us.
It will come down to his 225 reps, and agility drills.
 

jradMIT

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Short-Area Quickness


These next two sections are singular testing results that best project future success for certain positions. I am far less attached to these than in previous years, but it has been a tradition in highlighting them… so I will continue.


First is the 20-yard shuttle for offensive linemen. Here are 14 of the top 20 performances since 2006:

Eagles C Jason Kelce (4.14), Colts C Samson Satele (4.29), Bengals T Jake Fisher (4.33), Panthers C Ryan Kalil (4.34), Patriots OT Nate Solder(4.34), Ex-Jets C Nick Mangold (4.36), Colts OT Anthony Castonzo (4.40), Bears OT Charles Leno (4.40), Vikings G Brandon Fusco (4.43), Chiefs T Eric Fisher (4.44), Browns G Joel Bitonio (4.44), Texans G Xavier Su’a-Filo (4.44), Packers OL Jason Spriggs (4.44) and longtime T Eric Winston (4.44).


I’ve heard rumblings of Garett Bolles possibly breaking the 3-cone and short shuttle records for offensive linemen, both owned by Jason Kelce (7.22 3-cone, 4.14 short shuttle).
 

IDEXAN

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You know this guy has vey limited experience as a football player and has off field issues in his resume ( I know, something you wouldn't expect from a Mormon), and he's an old rookie because he's gonna be 25 in just a couple months. And yea he is athletic but not very big which makes him sound like a zone guy which is not what Billy focuses on here.
So as bad as we need a tackle(s) I'd be vey surprised if the Texans take him with their first round pick.
 

jradMIT

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You know this guy has vey limited experience as a football player and has off field issues in his resume ( I know, something you wouldn't expect from a Mormon), and he's an old rookie because he's gonna be 25 in just a couple months. And yea he is athletic but not very big which makes him sound like a zone guy which is not what Billy focuses on here.
So as bad as we need a tackle(s) I'd be vey surprised if the Texans take him with their first round pick.

Yea he might not fit the scheme, but his off the field stuff was long ago before he went to college, there's been nary a peep from the guy since he started playing ball, I don't think that will factor into the decision. Also I might add that since he hasn't been in a strength and conditioning program for long he can add more size to his frame.
 

Wolf6151

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You know this guy has vey limited experience as a football player and has off field issues in his resume ( I know, something you wouldn't expect from a Mormon), and he's an old rookie because he's gonna be 25 in just a couple months. And yea he is athletic but not very big which makes him sound like a zone guy which is not what Billy focuses on here.
So as bad as we need a tackle(s) I'd be vey surprised if the Texans take him with their first round pick.
Losing weight for the Combine isn't unusual to add speed and agility, and at 6'05" he should be able to add 10-15 lbs. easily without affecting him much. I'd take him at #25 if he were still on the board, I just hope the Texans prioritize the need at OT as much as we all do.
 

steelbtexan

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If somehow the Texans could come out of this draft with Bolles and Mahomes I would be very happy.

3rd/4th rd pick Mama and I would be estatic.

The Texans are really close, just need to add a QB and a couple of stud OL.

If Mahomes and Bolles are there at 25 which one do you pick? How do you end up with both of them thru trading back into the 1st rd?
 

steelbtexan

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Bolles did not participate in the 225 Bench Press.
Disappointing

After seeing how many teams have talked with the top 3 OT's I seriously doubt that one of them will fall to the Texans. Going to need to trade up above the Broncos if you want one of them. (Not gonna happen)
 

IDEXAN

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So checked out the Combine this morning with the OL players and watched Bolles run a sub 5.00 40 which is always good for an Olineman.
For a lineman Bolles was extremely svelte and he also as expected had a flat-azz Mormon white-boy rear end which is not what you want because these guys ideally have thick thighs and an impressive bubble to generate the power in drive-blocking the pros want in their lineman.
So Bolls looks like your traditional TE converted to OT even though I dunno if he ever played TE but he's got zone-blocking written all over him.
He's not big and thick enough to play inside or probably not RT either which means he's most likely gonna be strictly a LT prospect and most likley in a ZBS.
It will be interesting to see where he ultimately goes in the Draft next month ?
 

Texian

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For me, Bolles was not as athletic as you like, in drills, slow footwork, stiff hips. Bolles has good straight line speed but change of direction and slide (mirror drill) was disappointing. I like Bisnowaty and Dawkins better.
 
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Honoring Earl 34

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For me, Bolles was not as atheltic as you like, in drills, slow footwork, stiff hips. Bolles has good straight line speed but change of direction and slide (mirror drill) was disappointing. I like Bisnowaty and Dawkins better.
What about putting Bisnowaty and Dorian Johnson on the rightside of the OL . Should get them in the 2nd and 3rd round and they've played together for years .
 

Texian

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What about putting Bisnowaty and Dorian Johnson on the rightside of the OL . Should get them in the 2nd and 3rd round and they've played together for years .
That's a possibility, Johnson needs to get stronger. Bolles has only started 1 season and it shows. A couple of years in an NFL program and he could become a good NFL starter. You can tell he's behind vs the better OL at this Combine.
 

Honoring Earl 34

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That's a possibility, Johnson needs to get stronger. Bolles has only started 1 season and it shows. A couple of years in an NFL program and he could become a good NFL starter. You can tell he's behind vs the better OL at this Combine.
Bolles is 25 I believe .

To me , if they go after a QB , it has to be in the 1st or you will be drafting what falls . I figure Lamp and Robinson will be gone in the 1st at 25 but I might take Dawkins there if I wasn't picking a QB .
 
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Texian

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Bolles is 25 I believe .

To me , if they go after a QB , it has to be in the 1st or you will be drafting what falls . I figure Lamp and Robinson will be gone in the 1st at 25 but I might take Dawkins there if I wasn't picking a QB .
Lamp is definitely the best OL in this draft and Robinson is making his case for #2.
 

jradMIT

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Bolles group best 115" broad jump. Johnson and Lamp right behind at 114 and 112 respectively.


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IDEXAN

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Lamp is definitely the best OL in this draft and Robinson is making his case for #2.
Lamp may be the best interior OL in the Draft but Robinson is probably more valuable and would go higher because he's very possibly the best OT in the Draft.
 

jradMIT

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Short-Area Quickness


These next two sections are singular testing results that best project future success for certain positions. I am far less attached to these than in previous years, but it has been a tradition in highlighting them… so I will continue.


First is the 20-yard shuttle for offensive linemen. Here are 14 of the top 20 performances since 2006:

Eagles C Jason Kelce (4.14), Colts C Samson Satele (4.29), Bengals T Jake Fisher (4.33), Panthers C Ryan Kalil (4.34), Patriots OT Nate Solder(4.34), Ex-Jets C Nick Mangold (4.36), Colts OT Anthony Castonzo (4.40), Bears OT Charles Leno (4.40), Vikings G Brandon Fusco (4.43), Chiefs T Eric Fisher (4.44), Browns G Joel Bitonio (4.44), Texans G Xavier Su’a-Filo (4.44), Packers OL Jason Spriggs (4.44) and longtime T Eric Winston (4.44).


I’ve heard rumblings of Garett Bolles possibly breaking the 3-cone and short shuttle records for offensive linemen, both owned by Jason Kelce (7.22 3-cone, 4.14 short shuttle).

Bolles comes in with a 7.29 (best in group) 3cone and a slightly disappointing 4.55 short shuttle (2nd best in group)


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Texian

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Bolles comes in with a 7.29 (best in group) 3cone and a slightly disappointing 4.55 short shuttle (2nd best in group)


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No doubt that he runs and jumps well, he is lighter than most. The on field drills he just wasn't as polished as as those guys who have been starting for 3-4 years. Which makes sense since he only started one year at Utah. The kid was messed up mentally and only just grew up and got his head screwed on straight. IMO he will experience a learning curve similar to Duane Brown's first two years. Now that he's married with a child he's likely dedicated to become a solid pro. He's 25 now and if he needs a two year learning curve he will be 27 when he's ready to make a strong contribution. ALL IMHO. BTW I have watched every minute of the OL Combine and now watching it a 2nd time so that's what I'm basing my opinions on, plus videos I have watched.
 
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jradMIT

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I like how he plays mean on the field. Looks like he might fall now. I think he will be a good LT so if it comes with something me growing pains so be it, especially if it doesn't cost a premium pick.


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