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What's your plan for QB next season?

My fairy tale would be Romo FA acquisition. 1st round OL. 2nd round OL. 3rd round LB/S. 4th Round Mahomes. 5th round OL. 6th round OL. 7th round OL.

Oh yeah and sign Adrian Peterson on the cheap. Wam bam Lombardi.

C'mon Rick sign me as a consultant this stuff is easy. :spin:
 
steelbtexan said:
The talent/brains and work ethic are there though.

It's BOB's jobs to coach him up.
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His mechanics are horrible .... and he really gets sloppy with the ball. He got away with that in college but the NFL is a whole different animal.
Trubisky has the best mechanics I've seen in several drafts but I prefer Kizer as a total package of the top 4 (Trubisky , Kizer , Watson , Mahomes).
 
Corrosion said:
His mechanics are horrible .... and he really gets sloppy with the ball. He got away with that in college but the NFL is a whole different animal.
Trubisky has the best mechanics I've seen in several drafts but I prefer Kizer as a total package of the top 4 (Trubisky , Kizer , Watson , Mahomes).
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Agreed.

But I think Mahomes can improve on things like footwork. It's not like he has a Tebow release. What he does have is great arm talent/movement skills.
 
steelbtexan said:
Agreed.

But I think Mahomes can improve on things like footwork. It's not like he has a Tebow release. What he does have is great arm talent/movement skills.
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My two favorites are trubisky and mohomes but I personally give an edge to mahomes right now. Just looks like more of a gamer on film.

He takes some risks, but I don't see a guy who is as wild as manziel on film. He played within his offense and he knows how to throw the ball away and take sacks to live another play.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
My two favorites are trubisky and mohomes but I personally give an edge to mahomes right now. Just looks like more of a gamer on film.

He takes some risks, but I don't see a guy who is as wild as manziel on film. He played within his offense and he knows how to throw the ball away and take sacks to live another play.
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I like Trubinski a lot too.

One thing I don't like about him if true is that he has small hands. (Not good in bad weather and fumbling issues.)

On a positive note Trubinski has played in a lot of bad weather games growing up in Ohio.
 
Corrosion said:
His mechanics are horrible .... and he really gets sloppy with the ball. He got away with that in college but the NFL is a whole different animal.
Trubisky has the best mechanics I've seen in several drafts but I prefer Kizer as a total package of the top 4 (Trubisky , Kizer , Watson , Mahomes).
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Every "scout" mentions his mechanics but they also mention that it doesn't seem to affect his accuracy or touch. He just seems to get it done.
 
DocBar said:
Every "scout" mentions his mechanics but they also mention that it doesn't seem to affect his accuracy or touch. He just seems to get it done.
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My biggest complaint is that he's so loose with the ball , holding it low , away from his body with one hand ..... In the NFL that's asking for the defender to strip the ball.



I don't think we have a shot at any of the top three - Trubisky (his mechanics are very solid) , Kizer (just solid overall) or Watson (don't really want) , unless they make a major move up so Mahomes is the next best option. I could live with it .... he cant be any worse than the NFL's worst starting quarterback , could he?!!
 
Corrosion said:
My biggest complaint is that he's so loose with the ball , holding it low , away from his body with one hand ..... In the NFL that's asking for the defender to strip the ball.



I don't think we have a shot at any of the top three - Trubisky (his mechanics are very solid) , Kizer (just solid overall) or Watson (don't really want) , unless they make a major move up so Mahomes is the next best option. I could live with it .... he cant be any worse than the NFL's worst starting quarterback , could he?!!
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How many QB's with perfect mechanics have been huge flops in the NFL? I'm not all that big on any QB in this draft, but Maybe Mahomes has that intangible about him and ball security can be worked on. I'd just as soon take a chance on him as I would any other QB in this draft.
 
All the QBs in this year's Draft have the same problem. They all have.......
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This class doesn't have a bona fide franchise QB that you can tell for sure, but there are many good prospects (at least 5) that I would take over Kirk Cousins if he was to come out the same year.

There are at least 8 that I would take over Osweiler; heck, I would never have gone for Osweiler to begin with.

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Last season I wanted the Savage Project to be a go on Day1. My guess and this is only my guess, O'Brien was looking forward to having Savage take the reins...but somehow between McNair and Smith, Osweiler was thrown into his lap as the new leader of this offense. Personally, this threw the QB position back another season...bit on the positive side, this blunder only had a 2 year cycle and1 is already in the books.

With the QB situation being what it is for 2017, the Texans need to finally focus their draft, FA moves or trades on shoring up other areas of their offense (OL, RB, WR, TE) and adding depth to some positions on defense (DT, SS, CB, OLB) before a 2017 Rookie QB becomes the order of the day. The Texans are going to have to make the best out of this QB situation in 2017. First, O'Brien must announce that the QB position will be an open competition...may the best man win. Second, the team must re-sign Weeden and include him in the competition. Third, I would like to see the team sign another veteran of this system for the purpose of pushing this competition. I would have no problem with the team signing Case Keenum, since I like his competitive nature. This would give the Texans, Savage, Weeden, Osweiler and Keenum to compete for 3 spots next season. Why would this work? The Texans would have no financial obligations to any of these QB's beyond the end of 2017. If it works, one less problem going into 2018. If it doesn't, the team has a very clean financial slate for the position in 2018.

Color me crazy, but I think an open competition like this could wind up coming down to Savage or Weeden on who becomes QB1. Would I be surprised to see Weeden win...no. The Texans would have to be ready to make a move if this competition played out in a manner that I see as a possibility. I sincerely believe that Savage, Weeden and Keenum would beat out Osweiler leaving him as QB4 while the team would only carry 3 QB's. The Texans would need to trade Osweiler versus cutting him. Take a Conditional RD6 in 2018 if it means getting him and his contract off the books.

On a side note, wasn't Savage's first throw/completion a 30+ yard strike outside the hash-marks? BO hit maybe 1 out far to many throws at a similar distance and location....and many of those throws were not under duress. He just flat out cannot connect on this type of throw. Without having this type of throw in his arsenal, he will effectively remove, Fuller and Williams as weapons. In all reality, for the money BO received he should have walked in and taken ownership of the dumbed down game plan and he didn't.

As for Savage, Obie and the FO have taken a lot of care on how they kept him off their PS since they drafted him. The Texans were not the only team that found Savage viable as an NFL QB and if they ever put him on the PS another team would have snatched him out of their hands. He's been QB3, IR, QB2 and QB1. Regardless of what transpires leading up to the off-season Savage would be better than any QB the team could draft. Savage also gives O'Brien something he couldn't do with any veteran or rookie QB...the ability to open his entire playbook. Weeden probably gives O'Brien the same opportunity.

Savage should get a lot of attention since this is his make or break season. I would be incredibly bummed if as a fan, I didn't get to see the Savage Project get a real opportunity to lead this team before he left via FA.

I have another move in mind to help this team get the required picks to fill needs and depth for 2017...it's not going to popular but it would make sense financially.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
OB needs to ask himself what's the best way he can win games.

If he doesn't have a guy capable of running his "system" then 1) he's got to take some blame for that and 2) he's got to find an immediate solution for that.
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O'Brien has 2 QB's that can answer this problem...Savage and Weeden. I would be bring in Case Keenum and let him compete with Osweiler for the QB3 spot. Osweiler would be on a short rope in this competition and if CK was looking better, I'm putting Osweiler on the market for a 2018 RD6 but would settle on a RD7 if that's best he would command.

2017 Draft doesn't have a QB that's going to make a difference in 2017 and probably not in 2018 either. These QB's a going to require a lot of additional work to get them NFL ready. Another FA could have the team taking another step back since few would probably sign if the team is only offering a 1 year prove-it type contract loaded with incentives.

This is why I think the team would be better off exhausting their 2017 efforts on the QB's in the system. Use every available move to fill the other offensive needs as a way to finally build a reliable foundation around these QB's. If the Texans can hit 9 wins with Osweiler last season and with the merry-go-round of QB's in 2014 & 2015, then they could easily exceed 9 wins with a better offensive foundation in 2017...even with Savage or Weeden at the helm.

If for some sad reason this concept for 2017 doesn't bear fruit...there are no crippling financial obligations to any of these QB's going into 2018. Now the QB's in the 2018 NFL Draft could answer this team's needs. I'd draft 2 QB's (Mason Rudolph / Oklahoma State and Brett Rypien / Boise State) and sign one of the 3 above mentioned QB's to lead this team into the future. Both of these 2018 prospects are winners, have the physical gifts for the position and have operated a pro-style system at some point during their QB'ing careers.
 
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OptimisticTexan said:
O'Brien has 2 QB's that can answer this problem...Savage and Weeden. I would be bring in Case Keenum and let him compete with Osweiler for the QB3 spot. Osweiler would be on a short rope in this competition and if CK was looking better, I'm putting Osweiler on the market for a 2018 RD6 but would settle on a RD7 if that's best he would command.

2017 Draft doesn't have a QB that's going to make a difference in 2017 and probably not in 2018 either. These QB's a going to require a lot of additional work to get them NFL ready. Another FA could have the team taking another step back since few would probably sign if the team is only offering a 1 year prove-it type contract loaded with incentives.

This is why I think the team would be better off exhausting their 2017 efforts on the QB's in the system. Use every available move to fill the other offensive needs as a way to finally build a reliable foundation around these QB's. If the Texans can hit 9 wins with Osweiler last season and with the merry-go-round of QB's in 2014 & 2015, then they could easily exceed 9 wins with a better offensive foundation in 2017...even with Savage or Weeden at the helm.

If for some sad reason this concept for 2017 doesn't bear fruit...there are no crippling financial obligations to any of these QB's going into 2018. Now the QB's in the 2018 NFL Draft could answer this team's needs. I'd draft 2 QB's (Mason Rudolph / Oklahoma State and Brett Rypien / Boise State) and sign one of the 3 above mentioned QB's to lead this team into the future. Both of these 2018 prospects are winners, have the physical gifts for the position and have operated a pro-style system at some point during their QB'ing careers.
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I'm fine with a qb competition but I don't like some of your ideas. 1 Keenum is under contract he will not be available via free agency, and he honestly is just not good, wasn't he worse then BO this year before getting benched? 2. We have Weeden under contract still so we don't have to resign him. 3. I highly doubt anyone gives us anything for Brock osweiler. he just had an awful season, he has a large contract. if Rick smith can honestly talk a team into giving him a 12 pack for Brock I'd make him GM for life.

So what I would do is cut Weeden, he won us some games against some bad teams with a great defense let's not make him more than what he is, and we could use the cap space. I draft a rookie QB, chances are he wont see the field year 1 and I'm fine with that because I fully expect Savage to win the starting gig over Osweiler and a rookie. If Savage plays great awesome we can dump Os next year and resign or franchise him, he he flame out then we have a rookie with a year in our system that might be able to step in.
 
Given the options available this offseason i'm inclined to spend this offseason shoring up the OLine and try to get a complimentary piece at TE to Fido (Bennett in Free Agency?)

Then have an honest competition between Os and Savage in training camp. Both guys essentially in a contract year to prove they can be the mythical average QB we need to not throw away games while we win on the backs of our all world defense.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Given the options available this offseason i'm inclined to spend this offseason shoring up the OLine and try to get a complimentary piece at TE to Fido (Bennett in Free Agency?)

Then have an honest competition between Os and Savage in training camp. Both guys essentially in a contract year to prove they can be the mythical average QB we need to not throw away games while we win on the backs of our all world defense.
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I would add that a fearsome running game would also give our scoring a boost and take some pressure off the QB.
It would be nice to have a strong ST as well but you can't have everything although some depth on O and D helps boost that too.
 
Heard an interesting proposition on the radio earlier today .... and I'm inclined to run with it , assuming that is Romo is released and he would take such a deal to play for a contender.

Romo signed to a 4 year deal with only the signing bonus ($8m) and first years base salary of 1-2m guaranteed with incentives built in X games played 1m , playoff appearance 1m , conference championship game 1m, this would allow you to have a cap hit for Romo this season for $4 plus incentives .... with years 2-4 having a higher salary when you erase Brocks albatross and can afford to pay him more but not guaranteed beyond $5m in year two allowing you to cut bait and run should he not be healthy or if he just aint got it anymore. If he played well and the team went deep , he aint getting cut and will get his back end money. Basically Romo betting on himself ....

Cut Brock .... Designate him a June 1 cut , eat the $19m on this years cap and $6m on 2018

Cut Weeden , no cap hit , cant keep 4 QB's.

Savage as the backup , he costs chump change , he knows the system .... and is likely better than Brock.


Draft one of the top 4 quarterbacks , I prefer Kizer but don't think they'll have a shot at him .... probably left with Mahomes in round 2.


Draft an OT capable of starting on the right side from the get go.


You also have the $$ left to keep Bouye .... and play around a bit in FA.
 
Corrosion said:
Heard an interesting proposition on the radio earlier today .... and I'm inclined to run with it , assuming that is Romo is released and he would take such a deal to play for a contender.

Romo signed to a 4 year deal with only the signing bonus ($8m) and first years base salary of 1-2m guaranteed with incentives built in X games played 1m , playoff appearance 1m , conference championship game 1m, this would allow you to have a cap hit for Romo this season for $4 plus incentives .... with years 2-4 having a higher salary when you erase Brocks albatross and can afford to pay him more but not guaranteed beyond $5m in year two allowing you to cut bait and run should he not be healthy or if he just aint got it anymore. If he played well and the team went deep , he aint getting cut and will get his back end money. Basically Romo betting on himself ....

Cut Brock .... Designate him a June 1 cut , eat the $19m on this years cap and $6m on 2018

Cut Weeden , no cap hit , cant keep 4 QB's.

Savage as the backup , he costs chump change , he knows the system .... and is likely better than Brock.


Draft one of the top 4 quarterbacks , I prefer Kizer but don't think they'll have a shot at him .... probably left with Mahomes in round 2.


Draft an OT capable of starting on the right side from the get go.


You also have the $$ left to keep Bouye .... and play around a bit in FA.
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Heard it also. It's from TexansCap.com that I believe that a member here runs...

4 year contract worth $53,000,000 and up to $57,000,000 with $9 million guaranteed at signing and an additional $10 million in vesting guarantees. The $9 million initial guarantee would be made up of $8 million signing bonus and a fully guaranteed $1 million salary for 2017. A $10 million salary in 2018 would become guaranteed for injury only 5 days after the Super Bowl in 2018. Each season would include $1 million in roster bonus, which would be paid $62,500 per week when Romo is on the 46 man game day roster, to provide some protection for the team. The contract would also include $2 million dollars in performance incentives in 2017 & 2018 as follows: $1 million dollars for reaching the AFC Championship and $1 million dollars for reaching the Super Bowl.
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Shishkabob said:
I'm fine with a qb competition but I don't like some of your ideas. 1 Keenum is under contract he will not be available via free agency, and he honestly is just not good, wasn't he worse then BO this year before getting benched? 2. We have Weeden under contract still so we don't have to resign him. 3. I highly doubt anyone gives us anything for Brock osweiler. he just had an awful season, he has a large contract. if Rick smith can honestly talk a team into giving him a 12 pack for Brock I'd make him GM for life.

So what I would do is cut Weeden, he won us some games against some bad teams with a great defense let's not make him more than what he is, and we could use the cap space. I draft a rookie QB, chances are he wont see the field year 1 and I'm fine with that because I fully expect Savage to win the starting gig over Osweiler and a rookie. If Savage plays great awesome we can dump Os next year and resign or franchise him, he he flame out then we have a rookie with a year in our system that might be able to step in.
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According to Sport Trac, Keenum is an UFA in the 2017 QB FA Class. Did the Rams re-sign him? The rookies to be in the 2017 QB Class are being way over sold. If my draft is focused on putting the best available pieces around the starting QB the Texans are just going to get better. This team won 9 games last season with a way below average offense. We all know why this happened and there's no sense in re-hashing the short comings.

A QB pick between RD1 and RD5 in 2017 will essentially arrive as a RD6 Project QB. For 2017, I would roll my dice on an UDFA QB that could require the same amount of effort in preparing him to be an asset at some point as the QB's drafted. This is also a QB that could safely be hidden on the PS if needed during his developmental process.

For the sake of seeing O'Brien's offense function in all its supposed glory, there are 3 QB's on this roster with scheme knowledge; Savage (3 full seasons), Weeden (2 full seasons) and Osweiler (1 full season). If the team signed Keenum, he has 1+ season's in the system). That gives the team 4 functioning QB's with Obie's offensive system knowledge. How effective could they be? It will depend on how fairly the open competition is handled. It will also depend on how the offense in general was addressed in the off-season. The OL should be a priority via FA and the draft. The right side of this line made this offense even more one-dimensional. The RB's have been ok...but they strike fear in no defenses. TE's finally became somewhat effective in 2016 but didn't force DC's to game plan for them. They won't plan for them in 2017 either if the team remains status quo on this unit. DC's took away Hopkins and then it got ugly, especially with the injuries to other receivers.

I was extremely disappointed in Hopkins because it looked like he was mailing it in last season. I think the funk started when Fuller came in and stole his thunder in the first two games, then he was getting double and triple teamed and then he got angry that the team had not hammered out a new contract with him during the off-season. To me that smells a bit like "prima-dona" syndrome. If a new contract isn't knocked out this off-season, which Hopkins does the team get in 2017? Especially since the receiving group is going to be much better after a full season in the league and the arrival of Welker as a coach/mentor. Fuller, Strong (sleeper), Miller, Mumphrey, and Williams (big sleeper) are a pretty decent group that could get much better if the QB has a little more time in the pocket. Also, did anyone else notice that Hopkins was far more effective from the slot?
 
OptimisticTexan said:
A QB pick between RD1 and RD5 in 2017 will essentially arrive as a RD6 Project QB.
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What does that mean? OK all have to learn the system, a phenomenon true with any rookie on any team, but one still has attributes which make them go in the 1st and the other the 6th. They are not fungible.

If the team signed Keenum, he has 1+ season's in the system).
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Keenum has about a quarter of a season with OB ... in a cut down version.
 
like it or not Osweiler is the only QB we can keep for free, so they will need a very good reason to pay someone else and cut him.

and in my opinion there are no QB currently on the texans roster that have enough promise to justify paying them and cut Os.

between weeden and savage, weeden is the most expensive and I totally expect him to be cut.

if the texans only add 1 rookie QB I can see them going into next season with 3 QBs (Os + Savage + Rookie) but it could very well be 2 QBs (Os + Rookie)

if we end up getting Romo AND a rookie then maybe we can go into next season with those 2 and maybe savage in the practice squad (if he even can be put in there)
 
Sigma said:
like it or not Osweiler is the only QB we can keep for free, so they will need a very good reason to pay someone else and cut him.

and in my opinion there are no QB currently on the texans roster that have enough promise to justify paying them and cut Os.

between weeden and savage, weeden is the most expensive and I totally expect him to be cut.

if the texans only add 1 rookie QB I can see them going into next season with 3 QBs (Os + Savage + Rookie) but it could very well be 2 QBs (Os + Rookie)

if we end up getting Romo AND a rookie then maybe we can go into next season with those 2 and maybe savage in the practice squad (if he even can be put in there)
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Haha, this is a thread about " your plan for QB", not the Texans' plan.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
How about the reason is he sucks?
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Os at zero $
Savage at 690K $
and Weidon at 1.625M $

I would still pick Os for free.

if there are other options than it's totally possible he will get cut. but as it is the only alternative I can see is paying savage and getting a rookie. but I hardly doubt that will be the case
 
Sigma said:
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Os at zero $
Savage at 690K $
and Weidon at 1.625M $

I would still pick Os for free.

if there are other options than it's totally possible he will get cut. but as it is the only alternative I can see is paying savage and getting a rookie. but I hardly doubt that will be the case
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There have to be other options IF you think this team is in WIN NOW mode ..... You simply cant go into another season with Brock or Savage as your starter.

I believe this team is an average quarterback away from playing for all the marbles .... Where we find an average quarterback .... I dunno. Nothing on the free agent market (aside from the possibility of Romo) is average quality , they are all junk heap guys.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
This thread does ask what we would do if we were calling the shots in regards to the QB situation. Before I go into a solution I would like to preface it with this thought, is O'Brien really looking forward to entering his fourth season as HC by running a dumbed-down version of his offense once again? My guess, probably not.

In all reality, this offense has too many moving parts for Osweiler, then toss in his horrible mechanics, ability to laser lock onto his receiver and then utilize his sun-dial wind-up to deliver a pass that a defender 15+ yards off the ball has time to react to is going to continue to lead to disastrous results. Does an effective OL and running game improve Osweiler? NO! Sadly, the team will be stuck with him for 2017 and the money he's owed is essentially going to remove all the wiggle room to obtain another QB for 2017. Worth noting, my guess is O'Brien wouldn't be any closer to opening his entire playbook with Brock under Center as he was in 2016.

Savage is Obie's only hope for 2017. Savage, according to O'Brien knows and understands his playbook. He will be playing his final season under his rookie contract and after that, it'll be anyone's guess as to what happens next. Will need to finish this later...big event getting started.
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Looks at who just found his way over to Texanstalk. Welcome to a pretty good Texans forum buddy. And I see your love for Savage hasn't changed not one bit. Hahaha Brock will beat Savage out. Or Savage will be traded.
 
Optimistic Case will not suit up as a Texans ever again. Lol man just cut it out already.

They will roll with Brock unless he's beat out during the competition battle.

Some of yall are really acting as if 19 million is chump change.
 
Corrosion said:
There have to be other options IF you think this team is in WIN NOW mode ..... You simply cant go into another season with Brock or Savage as your starter.

I believe this team is an average quarterback away from playing for all the marbles .... Where we find an average quarterback .... I dunno. Nothing on the free agent market (aside from the possibility of Romo) is average quality , they are all junk heap guys.
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I'm one who has stated the team is in a win now mode. I'd like to see Oz go, but I'm convinced now, unless we see an unlikely trade, he's on the roster. Savage will be given his last shot to stay healthy. Unless we absolutely need the cap space, Weeden goes into training camp. We'll draft a QB in the mid to late rounds, but unless he surprises, will go to the practice squad and Weeden is on the roster going into the season - for the simple reason of familiarity with the system. Of course, being a Weeden supporter, I think he can win the starting role if given the opportunity.
 
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I'm one who has stated the team is in a win now mode. I'd like to see Oz go, but I'm convinced now, unless we see an unlikely trade, he's on the roster. Savage will be given his last shot to stay healthy. Unless we absolutely need the cap space, Weeden goes into training camp. We'll draft a QB in the mid to late rounds, but unless he surprises, will go to the practice squad and Weeden is on the roster going into the season - for the simple reason of familiarity with the system. Of course, being a Weeden supporter, I think he can win the starting role if given the opportunity.
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If both Savage and Weeden beat out Os, I could see him being a June 1st cut. He's already taking up cap space, no need to let him take up a roster spot also. Just a different point of view.
 
DocBar said:
If both Savage and Weeden beat out Os, I could see him being a June 1st cut. He's already taking up cap space, no need to let him take up a roster spot also. Just a different point of view.
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Agree. If he shows no progress by June first, he should be cut.
 
One thing I don't get -- how come we don't have any information from INSIDE the Texans clubhouse/front office/etc.? Where are the reporters that are supposed to be ferreting out the real deal about what the Texans are thinking and doing and planning? Seems we have a lot of people here just making stuff up, having zero to base it on. Or do we just not have any sports reporters with a dime in Houston?
 
TripleTap said:
One thing I don't get -- how come we don't have any information from INSIDE the Texans clubhouse/front office/etc.? Where are the reporters that are supposed to be ferreting out the real deal about what the Texans are thinking and doing and planning? Seems we have a lot of people here just making stuff up, having zero to base it on. Or do we just not have any sports reporters with a dime in Houston?
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This team has a history of not letting things get out. BOB has only made that ship tighter
 
TripleTap said:
One thing I don't get -- how come we don't have any information from INSIDE the Texans clubhouse/front office/etc.? Where are the reporters that are supposed to be ferreting out the real deal about what the Texans are thinking and doing and planning? Seems we have a lot of people here just making stuff up, having zero to base it on. Or do we just not have any sports reporters with a dime in Houston?
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Dude , this thread isn't about NEWS or what some reporter said , might say or fart out.

This thread asks what's YOUR plan for Quarterback in the coming season ..... a complete hypothetical of what you would do given the current circumstances.

As for sports reporting in Houston , we aint got much .... an old blow hard and whatever pretty face with no sports knowledge who parrots the popular opinion of the day the team approves for the year.
 
Ok, given the position the team finds itself in financially in regards to their QB's for 2017, I would prefer to roll the dice on the existing crew and not have any other financial commitments to this crew or a veteran FA QB beyond the 2017 season.

That said, I also want O'Brien to have a QB with system knowledge for 2017. He's going to be calling the plays for the first time this season....yeah right! Nevertheless Godsey isn't here to take the black-eye for the offense. My guess, O'Brien's going to want one of his current guys under center so he has all his playbook options available. I'm betting he doesn't want to start this process over since he's going into his 4th season as HC and 1st as OC.

If I invest an early pick on a QB, then the competition is going to be wide-open between Savage, Weeden Osweiler, and a rookie (Mahomes is my choice but he's going to be our RD1-25, if he's still there). I couldn't cut a QB that I just selected in RD1-RD4 nor would we be in a position to hide him on the PS for a season. That means the competition comes down to Savage, Weeden and Osweiler.

This competition would more than likely see Savage and Weeden smoke Osweiler. As I mentioned above...no financial obligations to this group beyond 2017 will keep it real unless Savage or Weeden prove otherwise. I'm going to eat the cap hit for Osweiler when I cut him (or find a trade partner) and look at 2018 as the year the position can really be addressed if I'm starting over. The good, I'll have some pretty nice financial flexibility to work with.
 
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Yes, Savage and Weeden are totally going to smoke Osweiler in a QB competition, just like they did last year.

E: I would be fine with Romo, Cutler, Glennon and probably any other fa QB as the starter for 2017.
 
b0ng said:
Yes, Savage and Weeden are totally going to smoke Osweiler in a QB competition, just like they did last year.

E: I would be fine with Romo, Cutler, Glennon and probably any other fa QB as the starter for 2017.
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There wasn't a chance in hell of anyone but Osweiler starting last season.
Why would you want a chronically injured Romo, bad team mate Cutler or Osweiler 2.0 on the Texans? U musta been hitting the bong when you posted this. :D
 
DocBar said:
There wasn't a chance in hell of anyone but Osweiler starting last season.
Why would you want a chronically injured Romo, bad team mate Cutler or Osweiler 2.0 on the Texans? U musta been hitting the bong when you posted this. :D
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because all three of those guys would be an upgrade at the QB position, duh and or hello.
 
b0ng said:
Yes, Savage and Weeden are totally going to smoke Osweiler in a QB competition, just like they did last year.

E: I would be fine with Romo, Cutler, Glennon and probably any other fa QB as the starter for 2017.
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I must have missed the open competition last year because I'm fairly certain that Osweiler was given the QB1 job and 72M dollars (37M guaranteed for 2016-17) when he was signed by RS and McNair. Why do I say this? Because I'm really trying to recall (if memory serves me right), if O'Brien was running around the FO slapping high-fives, gushing to the media or was completely unable to contain his excitement when he got Osweiler rammed down his throat.

Now that RS & McNair have had Bugs Bunny stick his finger into the front of their shotgun, O'Brien should get to open the competition and let the QB he's been grooming for 3 seasons finally get a legitimate chance at taking the QB1 spot. Oh, and the same goes for Weeden and getting his shot at QB1 as well. There must have been a reason for McNair (Mr. E. Fudd) to tell the media that it was a "GUTSY" move by O'Brien (BB) to bench his QB, Osweiler in favor of Savage. I believe RS (Mr. Y. Sam) was also hopping mad about this turn of events since it may require a long look in the mirror. Was it a gutsy move because he defied his boss' orders? Bottom-line, players seemed to gain a bounce in their steps when Savage trotted out on that field.

Romo, Cutler, Glennon, etc would be a step back for this organization...unless they're willing to sign a veterans minimum deal with a stack of "prove it" type of incentives for 2017 only. See, I don't want any QB taking cap space after 2017 and an extension by some lucky QB will only be earned, otherwise they're going to be BOI'd (Back on the Interstate...looking for a job). I want a lot of flexibility for 2018.
 
There may not be a 2018 for OB if he doesn't get some QB and the offense rolling in 2017. Frankly the idea of waiting a year is absurd. You do your best every offseason until you believe you have your QB.

If they like a QB in the draft they should take him. I expect one to be drafted in the 1st 3 rds barring a Garoppolo trade. Don't think McNair's comment was idle. They will draft a 'future starter' not a longshot or developmental guy.
 
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