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How about Tony Romo in Houston

I think I'd rather have Tony Roma in Houston than Tony Romo. I wonder which has cracked more ribs?
Although, if the Texans could get him really cheap year one with performance and health multipliers for years 2 and 3 it wouldn't be a bad idea.
Still draft a QB this year and next for the future.
 
I'd take him on a vet minimum contract with incentives worked into the deal, but only if we shore up the O line. If the O line remains in shambles there's no point bringing him in.
 
texan279 said:
I'd take him on a vet minimum contract with incentives worked into the deal, but only if we shore up the O line. If the O line remains in shambles there's no point bringing him in.
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They can shore up the line if the spend the $$$ and concentrate on it in the draft.
 
texan279 said:
I'd take him on a vet minimum contract with incentives worked into the deal, but only if we shore up the O line. If the O line remains in shambles there's no point bringing him in.
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sounds good cuz I favor OL in first round draft. the top 3 QB would have to drop 25 I dont think so. an OL will help QB pocket and its long term solid player for offense. It should be interesting. If in fact they did this I guess Weeden Savage or OS would go. but if they did this and drafted a mid round QB would have to make some more room right?
 
TexanBorn51 said:
sounds good cuz I favor OL in first round draft. the top 3 QB would have to drop 25 I dont think so. an OL will help QB pocket and its long term solid player for offense. It should be interesting. If in fact they did this I guess Weeden Savage or OS would go. but if they did this and drafted a mid round QB would have to make some more room right?
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Yes, Weeden is almost surely gone first, then its a question of any possible belief that OZ would be better next year than last. I say have a TC battle and see who wins out. You can cut OZ after June 1st if need be.
 
jradMIT said:
Yes, Weeden is almost surely gone first, then its a question of any possible belief that OZ would be better next year than last. I say have a TC battle and see who wins out. You can cut OZ after June 1st if need be.
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cutting OS would be a money thing can or will they do it. would have to crunch numbers $$ to see.IDK all the contract lingo except that its 74 mil 4 years and 32 mil for 2 years fir shir. Would they lose a year if cut which is 16 mil?
 
TexanBorn51 said:
cutting OS would be a money thing can or will they do it. would have to crunch numbers $$ to see.IDK all the contract lingo except that its 74 mil 4 years and 32 mil for 2 years fir shir. Would they lose a year if cut which is 16 mil?
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His cap hit would be the same for this year basically after June 1st (19M), but would be fhave a dead hit of 6 for next year according to overthecap. You would only do this if like Savage more.
 
jradMIT said:
His cap hit would be the same for this year basically after June 1st (19M), but would be fhave a dead hit of 6 for next year according to overthecap. You would only do this if like Savage more.
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okay got it thanks. so then one scenario if we go back to Romo would be release OS keep savage and draft QB.
 
TexanBorn51 said:
okay got it thanks. so then one scenario if we go back to Romo would be release OS keep savage and draft QB.
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jrad but if romo moves where ever it will be within around a month imo. so if its the texans then before jun 1st the roster would be OS savage and romo releasing weeden. but then the draft is in april
 
TexanBorn51 said:
jrad but if romo moves where ever it will be within around a month imo. so if its the texans then before jun 1st the roster would be OS savage and romo releasing weeden. but then the draft is in april
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They can keep 4 qb's or more during camp, and only when the roster has to be trimmed to 53 will they have to make a decision on who to keep. Also you can designate a guy a june 1st cut before June 1st, so you actually don't have to wait till the date. I think the most likely scenario would be to go to camp with all of the guys and make the cuts accordingly.
 
jradMIT said:
They can keep 4 qb's or more during camp, and only when the roster has to be trimmed to 53 will they have to make a decision on who to keep. Also you can designate a guy a june 1st cut before June 1st, so you actually don't have to wait till the date. I think the most likely scenario would be to go to camp with all of the guys and make the cuts accordingly.
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thanks for clearing that up
 
Do y'all think Romo would come to the Texans on the cheap for a one year "prove it" contract? I would say that Denver offers him the best shot at a SB if Kubiak was still the coach, but I have no idea what Denver will look like under the new coaching staff. I think it was a big mistake by them to let Phillips go. Some continuity would've been nice on at least one side of the ball.

I could get behind a reasonable "prove it" contract for Romo and, if he does prove it, giving him a a 2-3 year market value contract.
 
DocBar said:
Do y'all think Romo would come to the Texans on the cheap for a one year "prove it" contract? I would say that Denver offers him the best shot at a SB if Kubiak was still the coach, but I have no idea what Denver will look like under the new coaching staff. I think it was a big mistake by them to let Phillips go. Some continuity would've been nice on at least one side of the ball.

I could get behind a reasonable "prove it" contract for Romo and, if he does prove it, giving him a a 2-3 year market value contract.
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I doubt that Romo will not have decent guaranteed money thrown at him by at least a couple of teams. And, again if the Texans do offer a "prove it" contract, he WILL go down and that will have taken all the important offseason/preseason and early season 1st team snaps from someone that could have developed..........leaving us the same situation for next year.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I doubt that Romo will not have decent guaranteed money thrown at him by at least a couple of teams. And, again if the Texans do offer a "prove it" contract, he WILL go down and that will have taken all the important offseason/preseason and early season 1st team snaps from someone that could have developed..........leaving us the same situation for next year.
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This is basically /thread.
 
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Tony Romo expects the Dallas Cowboys to release him.

Things are about to become interesting...


At 2:33, like everybody else, says the Texans are the best fit for Romo.

Pretty much if J.J. Watt returns to his dominating self and Romo stays healthy, then the Houston Texans become heavy Super Bowl favorites and they will knock out Tom Brady and the Patriots in the AFC in 2017.
 
IMO, I think this is a fairly good short term risk/reward option. It isn't ideal, but buys a short term breathing room to develop a better solution while hopefully being a competitive team if we can have a bit of luck on Tony's' health. Obviously there is some risk in that, but the reward possibilities IMO make it worthwhile.
 
First off, I find it hard to believe that McNair would trade the face of the franchise, three time defensive player of the year, young in his prime, and possibly the best Defensive End in recent history for Tony Romo?

Trading Watt for Romo is not convenient for the Texans in any way! Now, I know a lot of people in Houston want to believe that we are just "A QB away" but we have more problems that need to be addressed before we can expect our anemic offense to not screw it up for our defense getting us there.

I am totally against a Watt for Romo trade!
 
meh, it's the off season. Just another talking point by those with no clue
 
Mangler said:
First off, I find it hard to believe that McNair would trade the face of the franchise, three time defensive player of the year, young in his prime, and possibly the best Defensive End in recent history for Tony Romo?

Trading Watt for Romo is not convenient for the Texans in any way! Now, I know a lot of people in Houston want to believe that we are just "A QB away" but we have more problems that need to be addressed before we can expect our anemic offense to not screw it up for our defense getting us there.

I am totally against a Watt for Romo trade!
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There will be no trading anybody for Romo - he will be cut.
 
Mangler said:
First off, I find it hard to believe that McNair would trade the face of the franchise, three time defensive player of the year, young in his prime, and possibly the best Defensive End in recent history for Tony Romo?

Trading Watt for Romo is not convenient for the Texans in any way! Now, I know a lot of people in Houston want to believe that we are just "A QB away" but we have more problems that need to be addressed before we can expect our anemic offense to not screw it up for our defense getting us there.

I am totally against a Watt for Romo trade![/QUOTE]

What he said!
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Watt for Garropolo was dumbfounding. Watt for Romo should make the person who suggests it take a battery of tests to make sure their head is screwed on right.

Romo will be released. If YUUUGE If ... Romo flat out says "I want to play for Houston and help them win a Super Bowl " then you have got to bring him in. Texans can't afford to chase after him in free agency. If Romo is serious about being here making the money add up in the end is the easy part.
 
Remember what everyone said about Peyton? Look at what he did with his back up being Brock. If the Texans can get Romo in and beef up that Oline in the offseason I think we'd have a way better chance than with Brock. I'd still draft a QB to groom as well...
 
I think the problem with watt is a difficult one. He got his stats and name being allowed to "freelance." He did it at the expense of everyone else upfront.

Last year we found what the defense could do as a more disciplined gap control front.

This year watt comes back. I dont mind if he freelances on passing downs but do we want him doing it on 2nd and 4? Its a question vrabel/romeo will have to answer.

Cap wise, i dont mind losing aj if jjo is here. I dont mind losing jjo if aj is here. I want to stay 3 deep at cb. I have faith in kevin johnson. Im scared a monster contract for aj will adversely effect signing dhop or clowney.

Is signing aj in a 4 deep cornerback roster worth not signing romo? Is it worth not signing a vet rt? Is it worth not signing clowney or dhop? Maybe it's not that black and white. But IT IS cap relevant and indirectly effects others.

This is a good draft for defensive backs and a poor year for qbs. You do the math.
 
Once OZ's contract is off the books next year they can easily extend Dhop, JJo will be gone as well so there's room for Clowney the following year, I think it comes down to the other guys who will have to get paid at that point or room to get other FA


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jradMIT said:
Once OZ's contract is off the books next year they can easily extend Dhop, JJo will be gone as well so there's room for Clowney the following year, I think it comes down to the other guys who will have to get paid at that point or room to get other FA


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Youve excluded aj from this? Perhaps a romo signing? Im not versed enough in our cap to know what we can or cant do. I EXPECT a vet ol signing in free agency so couple that in your thinking.
 
I was actually including AJ in this. Texans are in good shape cap wise for 2017 and very good for 2018. There are a few things going on here,

1 Salary Cap is exploding
2 Texans fortunate to have most of their players under contract through 2018.


So guys like KJ, DB, JJW, Mercilus actually are very cheap considering what's about to happen to player salaries.

2017-Current 24.5M
Easy cuts- Bergstrom, Clark, Newton, Weeden 11M

35.5M Space
Sign Bouye @8M first year hit, sign Romo @ first year @8M hit, sign RT @8M first year hit

11.5 M cap space

Cut Cushing add 5.5

17M to sign other free agents Demps, Lechler, etc plus draft picks

2018 projected 76M cap space - 20 from Bouye and 2017 FA RT,Romo takes Oz cap hit of 19M, leaving 56 M enough to sign DHop for 15Mil


Other wrinkles if needed to have more space for FA or carryover. June1st cut Allen get 3M back to sign another guard. Also cut Joseph 6M, pleasant 1M to get more space if needed.


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Cut Cushing add 5.5
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This is actually the first time we can release Brian Cushing and save some decent salary cap space without taking too much of a cap hit. He only has a $4.2 million dead money cap hit this off-season. Had we released him last year or the year before, it would have been a $12 million and $13 million cap hit.

And of course, Brock Osweiler only has a $6 million dead money cap hit if he's released next off-season. Although that won't help us if he's released this off-season with a whopping $25 million dead money cap hit. So not much we can do on that front right now.

But yeah, releasing Brian Cushing could save us a nice little chunk of money. Although I'd hate to lose that veteran leadership. We would have to draft another inside linebacker and chance are he won't be as good as Cushing.

A better way to clear some cap space this off-season will be if J.J. Watt restructures his contract to open up plenty of cap space for this particular off-season. It's a lot to ask of him but he'd be willing to do it for a better team in 2017. And specifically he smiled and said that he's been texting back and forth with Tony Romo when Dan Patrick asked if Tony Romo could join Watt on the Texans. But Watt also said that Rick Smith hasn't asked him to restructure his deal yet. He'd be open to it for the betterment of the team.

J.J. Watt said Tony Romo, ironically enough, was the toughest quarterback for him to sack. Even bringing up that play from a couple years ago when Romo avoided a sure-fire Watt sack and then proceeded to throw a 43-yard Touchdown strike deep down the field. A game the Cowboys won by 3 points in Overtime. So that play was pretty huge.


This play... You have to watch it on Youtube. NFL.com on YouTube still doesn't allow embeddable videos like the NBA and MLB do. The NFL needs to get with the program.

But at any rate, I feel 75 % confident the Texans will sign Tony Romo.
We just have to wait until the Dallas Cowboys release him.
The other 25 %? I'm not going to underestimate John Elway and the Broncos.
 
jradMIT said:
n to player salaries.

2017-Current 24.5M
Easy cuts- Bergstrom, Clark, Newton, Weeden 11M
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Cutting Clark and Newton leaves only Brown and Lamm as OT's on the roster. Clark will be with the team at least until TC. Deduct $2.75M from your figure. And Newton will be an injury settlement, not an outright cut, don't know how that will figure into your numbers
 
Sign a FA RT to start draft a new swing, cut Clark, Newtons situation doesn't apply with an injury settlement . Clark is expendable once you find a starter and draft a new Swing. Clark isn't worth that number, it needs to be cut in half, you can bring in another similar back up for less.


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jradMIT said:
Sign a FA RT to start draft a new swing, cut Clark, Newtons situation doesn't apply with an injury settlement . Clark is expendable once you find a starter and draft a new Swing. Clark isn't worth that number, it needs to be cut in half, you can bring in another similar back up for less.


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Agreed, but he won't be cut prior to the draft and FA signing, if then. Maybe after they are sure in what they have. Last two FA signings didn't work out, they are not going to roll the dice on another without insurance. Clark is their insurance until then. You know the way they operate by now.
 
JB said:
Agreed, but he won't be cut prior to the draft and FA signing, if then. Maybe after they are sure in what they have. Last two FA signings didn't work out, they are not going to roll the dice on another without insurance. Clark is their insurance until then. You know the way they operate by now.
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They will have extra breathing room with the top 51 rule during that time.


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Jason La Canfora doesn’t believe Cowboys will release Tony Romo
by Paul Jackiewicz1 day agoFollow @paul_jackiewicz
Tony Romo to the Texans is easier said than done.


CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora was a guest on BS Sports Radio’s Ferrall on the Bench and stated that he doesn’t believe the Dallas Cowboys will released quarterback Tony Romo.

“I’m pretty plugged in with Tony,” said La Canfora. “I’ll put my record reporting Tony Romo stories against anybody’s. When Jason Garrett came out and said he’s going to be out day-to-day and we could see him by opening day, I put out within 30 seconds, ‘Oh, no, he’s going to miss 10 weeks.’ I haven’t been told by anybody – and there’s many people close to him that I trust – that Tony’s expecting anything or that Tony anticipates anything or Tony’s demanding anything. He has not sat down with Jerry Jones yet. He will between now and the Combine at the end of the month, and both sides know that he won’t be there.”

La Canfora believes the Cowboys could end up getting something good in return for Romo.

“Sam Bradford got traded for a first and a fourth,” La Canfora said. “Alex Smith got traded for two 2s at a point where everybody knew that Harbaugh was all-in on Kaepernick and Alex Smith was no longer going to be a starting quarterback. An aging and breaking down Brett Favre got traded for a third-round pick. If I’m supposed to believe right now with a quarter of the league needing a quarterback and supply not meeting demand and the Cowboys being in Super Bowl or bust mode and a third- or fourth-round pick possibly being a 10-year starter in the NFL, that they’re just going to (say), ‘Oh, yeah, let’s just cut Tony now when we don’t have to and we’re not in this super cap crunch and he’s not breaking our salary cap, but let’s just put him on the street now and help somebody else out’ – boy, I don’t know that it’s going to go that way.

“It only takes one team to make a trade,” La Canfora continued, “and if you have two teams interested, then you have a robust market. I think they can get a third or a fourth for Tony. And look, Tony is not trying to drive the thing. Tony is not trying to be a dictator. Tony has teams he’d rather be with than not. The four teams he’s most interested in are Houston, Kansas City, Denver and Arizona. It doesn’t meant those are the only four teams he’ll end up with. There’s a lot that has to happen here before we get to a point that a trade is made, but I do believe there is very legitimate potential to at least get something of note for him.”

La Canfora made some good points, but the Vikings gave up a lot for Bradford because there weren’t any other options when Teddy Bridgewater went down. They also thought they were Super Bowl contenders and that Bradford could do enough for them to win a title.

Then when you look at Brett Favre, he never missed any games during his career. His age wasn’t a concern, so giving up a third round pick for him was nothing for the Vikings.

If the Cowboys do decide not to cut Romo, he certainly won’t have a chance at playing for the Texans next season.
 
As I recall the Texans got something from the Raiders for Matt Schaub and made a last minute trade before releasing him outright so one would think the Cowboys could get something for Romo but their situation is different since Jones because of his reportedly close friendship with Romo does not want to stick Romo with a loser but would prefer to
trade him to a winning team with PO capabilities.
 
The problem with trading Romo is the cap hit - don't have the numbers but Bradford, Smith and Schaub weren't making big bucks (?) and Favre well iron men hall of famers don't come up for trade very often. Romo isn't cheap, and won't be mistaken for an iron man.

He is cut, he is a Cowboy, or he is playing for a Cleveland or Jacksonville type team (lots of cap) - my opinion.
 
infantrycak said:
If a team traded for Romo they will be responsible for:

2017 $14 mil
2018 $19.5 mil
2019 $20.5 mil
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that is base salary if I am reading this correctly.
I would think any team signing him would do that only if he agrees to restructure his contract.

how much $ does he have guaranteed? seems to me $19,600,000 is what he is guaranteed to get.
unless I'm reading the contract wrong, which is very likely
 
LaCanfora is an asswipe with a damn agenda, especially against the Texans for some reason. I think he got fed some bad info in 2015 (O'Brien to U of Maryland) and is being a petty twat.

Follow his tweets during texans game and it is pretty clear
 
Sigma said:
how much $ does he have guaranteed? seems to me $19,600,000 is what he is guaranteed to get.
unless I'm reading the contract wrong, which is very likely
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Don't think he has any left. When they restructured in 2014 and 2015 the guaranteed money that was his base salaries those years got paid out as bonus so the money could be moved to future caps.
 
infantrycak said:
Don't think he has any left. When they restructured in 2014 and 2015 the guaranteed money that was his base salaries those years got paid out as bonus so the money could be moved to future caps.
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on the site I linked before they list his 2017 "dead cap hit" as 19.6M

I thought those were the guaranteed money he is still due... but I could be misinterpreting the data
 
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