Scooter
Funky
I take the monster defense that allows me to build my own offense, especially if there is an anchor *cough*Duane Brown*cough* who can transition immediately.
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The 49ers have said they'll offer him the job. Shanahan hasn't said anything about accepting.
depends on who you're trading up to get and if he's the final piece to your an already strong team's SB run. You don't do that for some QB who turns out to be a nobody when you have many other needs to fill.
Wolf
100% Texan
Washington Redskins want their picks back
Not my job.
And, to be honest, I find it a bit weird that this question occurred to you.
I'm not the one with all of the interest in Brady's balls.Not my job.
And, to be honest, I find it a bit weird that this question occurred to you.
Roger started all that mess!
Like a jilted schoolgirl.
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
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Something to possibly take note of:
The Los Angeles Rams' hire of Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator was met with a lot of acclaim. That was understandable, as Phillips' defense led the Broncos to a Super Bowl victory a year ago. Many criticized the Broncos for allowing Phillips to leave with the transition to Vance Joseph. Sources with the Broncos, however, say that Phillips divided the locker room and pitted the defense against the offense. The divided locker room was toxic at the end of the season, and that was why the Broncos felt they would be better off to have Phillips depart. Sources in Houston say that Phillips stirred up some similar problems in the Texans' locker room during the 2013 season, but not to the same extent as in Denver last season.
With a new and very young head coach in Sean McVay, it will be interesting to see if Phillips tries to assert control over the Rams' locker room. With the development of Jared Goff being at a critical point in the second year of his career, causing a dysfunctional locker room with the team divided could be very detrimental to Goff developing.
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Wolf
100% Texan
Cleve gave him 4 year 50 million with 26 guaranteed
Per sports ap. Just a follow up
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The Injury Report is too often manipulated and inaccurate.......and becoming more of a joke.,,,,,,,,,,,and the NFL looking the other way finds yet another way to display its spreading hypocrisy.
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NFL has a dilemma over undisclosed Le’Veon Bell injury
One week after Seahawks coach Pete Carroll admitted that the team had failed to disclose a knee injury suffered during the season by cornerback Richard Sherman, the Steelers have acknowledged the failure to disclose a groin injury to running back Le’Veon Bell. Unlike the Seahawks, however, the Steelers have stopped short of admitting that Bell’s injury required disclosure under the league’s injury report policy.
It was no coincidence that coach Mike Tomlin, in admitting that he knew about Bell’s groin injury, said that the injury “wasn’t significant.” Tomlin specifically was staying on the right side of the injury reporting policy.
The injury report policy specifically requires the disclosure of only “significant or noteworthy injuries” on the Practice Report. So the argument from the Steelers would be that, because Bell’s injury was not “significant,” it didn’t need to be disclosed.
Here’s the problem with that argument. Bell had been missing practice time. Each of the three Wednesdays before the team’s playoff games, Bell didn’t practice. Last Thursday, he missed practice for “personal reasons.”
The circumstances put the league office in a tough spot. If Bell missed no practice time, the folks at 345 Park Avenue could say, “The injury wasn’t significant, and Bell participated in all practices and games.” Since Bell missed four of nine practices over a three-week period with the “not injury related” designation at a time when Bell had a groin injury, the league will have a hard time burying its head in the sand on this one.
The availble evidence suggests that the “management” of Bell’s injury included giving him days off that deliberately were characterized as “not injury related” in order to conceal the injury. Without exploring the situation in further detail, there’s no way to know the truth.
But any investigation would expose just how easy it is to fudge the injury reports, something that pretty much every team does at one time or another, justified in part by the belief that everyone else is doing it, so we may as well do it, too.
Bottom line? The league would prefer to stay out of the injury report rabbit hole, because eventually it will become too clear to too many people that cheating on the injury report is widespread. The problem is that, between the Seahawks last week and the Steelers this week, the NFL may have no choice but to wallow in the reality that the hiding of injuries happens a lot more frequently than the average fan realizes.
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NFL has a dilemma over undisclosed Le’Veon Bell injury
One week after Seahawks coach Pete Carroll admitted that the team had failed to disclose a knee injury suffered during the season by cornerback Richard Sherman, the Steelers have acknowledged the failure to disclose a groin injury to running back Le’Veon Bell. Unlike the Seahawks, however, the Steelers have stopped short of admitting that Bell’s injury required disclosure under the league’s injury report policy.
It was no coincidence that coach Mike Tomlin, in admitting that he knew about Bell’s groin injury, said that the injury “wasn’t significant.” Tomlin specifically was staying on the right side of the injury reporting policy.
The injury report policy specifically requires the disclosure of only “significant or noteworthy injuries” on the Practice Report. So the argument from the Steelers would be that, because Bell’s injury was not “significant,” it didn’t need to be disclosed.
Here’s the problem with that argument. Bell had been missing practice time. Each of the three Wednesdays before the team’s playoff games, Bell didn’t practice. Last Thursday, he missed practice for “personal reasons.”
The circumstances put the league office in a tough spot. If Bell missed no practice time, the folks at 345 Park Avenue could say, “The injury wasn’t significant, and Bell participated in all practices and games.” Since Bell missed four of nine practices over a three-week period with the “not injury related” designation at a time when Bell had a groin injury, the league will have a hard time burying its head in the sand on this one.
The availble evidence suggests that the “management” of Bell’s injury included giving him days off that deliberately were characterized as “not injury related” in order to conceal the injury. Without exploring the situation in further detail, there’s no way to know the truth.
But any investigation would expose just how easy it is to fudge the injury reports, something that pretty much every team does at one time or another, justified in part by the belief that everyone else is doing it, so we may as well do it, too.
Bottom line? The league would prefer to stay out of the injury report rabbit hole, because eventually it will become too clear to too many people that cheating on the injury report is widespread. The problem is that, between the Seahawks last week and the Steelers this week, the NFL may have no choice but to wallow in the reality that the hiding of injuries happens a lot more frequently than the average fan realizes.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Rules are not made to be followed. Evidently, the joke that is the NFL continues.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Colts have revealed their list of GM interviews: Chris Ballard, Scott Fitterer, Trent Kirchner, George Paton, Jimmy Raye III, Eliot Wolf
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Safety, though, is the NFL main concern..............
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Kinda reminds me of NSZ thread in the past about speed limit signs (rules). Don't really mean what they say, it's just a suggestion. If everybody speeds it's ok for you (generic) to speed. It's today's entitled society. I do what I please, rules are for the other guy.
Pete Carrolls cheating goes way back to his USC days. Reggie Bush is the prime example.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Not at all what was said in that thread, but carry on.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Roger Goodell: Vegas or not, we won’t compromise gambling policies
January 26, 2017, 8:30 AM EST
The NFL has a longstanding and fierce opposition to gambling, which is why many people doubted a team would ever play in Las Vegas. Now it appears that the Raiders will move to Las Vegas, but Commissioner Roger Goodell insists that the league’s stance on gambling hasn’t changed.
Asked by Colin Cowherd if the NFL is softening its opposition to gambling, as the NBA has under Commissioner Adam Silver, Goodell indicated that playing in America’s gambling capital doesn’t signal a shift for the NFL.
“We’ve seen the changes in the culture around the country in gambling,” Goodell said. “We’re obviously very sensitive to that, but we’re also going to evaluate the Raiders case on the relocation application in what’s in the overall best interests of the league. But one thing we can’t ever do is compromise on the game. That’s one of the things we’ll do is to make sure the policies we’ve created, if we did in any way approve the Raiders, I don’t see us compromising on any of the policies.”
In other words, the league is considering a move to Las Vegas because the taxpayers there are willing to devote hundreds of millions of dollars to a stadium, and the taxpayers in Oakland aren’t. As far as the NFL is concerned, that’s a separate issue from gambling.
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Won't compromise gambling policies?????
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Why The NFL's Stance Against Gambling Is Complete BS
July 25, 2009
In case you've missed it, the state of Delaware legalized sports gambling. The state is hoping to raise revenue through sports gambling by allowing betting on single games in all of the major sports leagues as well as on college sports.
Delaware would basically become a giant sports book. This is possible because the state previously had legalized sports gambling in 1979 when it ran a football "lottery." This so-called lottery was in actuality parlay cards and were only played on NFL games. Due to various factors, Delaware's original sports lottery lasted only a few short weeks before it was shut down.
When Congress passed a law outlawing sports gambling nationwide in 1992, it "grandfathered" in four states - Nevada, Delaware, Montana and Oregon - all of which had previously legalized some form of sports wagering.
Now due to the economic slump the state is in, Delaware believes returning to sports wagering will bring in millions of dollars to the suffering state. And professional sports are not happy about it.
The four major leagues - NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB - along with the NCAA has filed suit against the state attempting to stop the institution of this sports wagering plan.
The suit states that Delaware's plan ""would irreparably harm professional and amateur sports by fostering suspicion and skepticism that individual plays and final scores of games may have been influenced by factors other than honest athletic competition."
While that sounds all well and good to the public, the fact is even without legalized sports gambling, professional sports has a history of game fixing dating back to the mid-1800s (yes, the 1800s) which continues to this very day.
Also, a huge majority of current sports wagering is conducted illegally and through underground bookies, most of which are connected to organized crime. While no one knows for certain how much is being wagered illegally, the best estimates reach into the hundreds of billions of dollars a year.
Since the mid-1960s, the NFL has always publicly been against any form of wagering on its games, citing a similar stance taken to the one in the current lawsuit against Delaware.
But despite this public stance, the NFL knows full well that gambling on its games is what keeps the league both in the public's eye and profitable.
BS, you say? Read on.
Some gambling experts believe over a billion dollars is illegally wagered on NFL games alone during its regular season. That number rises during the playoffs.
Those people betting are also watching the games. In fact, most "fans" need some sort of "action" on the game to "enhance" the enjoyment of it. Be it a friendly wager, a strip card, some squares, an office pool, a parlay card, or a bet with a bookie, people are gambling. How many of you do the same?
Furthermore, the NFL clearly plays into this gambling habit its fans have. Why do you think the NFL's injury report even exists? It isn't used by opposing coaches to determine the other guy's weaknesses. It was specifically created in the 1950s for gamblers.
"Inside information" on injuries (much like the info NBA ref Tim Donaghy had access to and used successfully to win over 80% of his wagers) gave an informed bettor a distinct advantage. And during the 50s and 60s, when numerous NFL players were themselves wagering on games or working hand in hand with gamblers who wagered for them, injuries were an important factor on were their money was laid down.
The NFL's injury report was created to combat this. It continues to exist strictly for gamblers to use.
The NFL also maintains close contact with members of several Las Vegas sports books to monitor how their games are being bet and if there are any unusual fluctuations in the line. Though it rarely happens today due to the high volume of money bet, in the past games would often be taken off the boards because of suspected "oddities" in the wagers coming in. The thought was, these games were probably fixed.
And while that fact feeds into why the NFL publicly doesn't want sports gambling legalized, in all likelihood, illegal wagering - the unregulated kind - actually adds to the possibility of game fixing more than legal gambling does. With no one entity montioring these bettors or their bets, no one would know if things were looking "fishy" prior to kickoff.
Perhaps the most popular form of gambling isn't considered gambling at all by the NFL. And that is fantasy football.
From personal experience, I have not been in a fantasy football league where money wasn't "awarded" to the league's champion. That, my friends, is gambling. Yet due to the fact that the NFL cannot tell what each and every fantasy league out there is up to, they have plausible deniability against aiding in everyone's gambling...I mean, fantasy league.
The NFL openly encourages fantasy football. They allow leagues to be run on their own website. And I cannot believe they do not realize money is on the line in most, if not all, of those leagues. Yet at the same time, the NFL knows that fantasy football has aided in the league's popularity and in turn upped ratings and thus its profit.
So while the league takes an anti-gambling stance on every occasion, this is nothing but good PR. The truth is, the history and success of the NFL is tied directly to both the rise of gambling (especially the advent of the betting line) and television. In fact, all of sports television's rise to prominence is linked to gambling. (For those interested, these links will be further explained in my book. See my author page for more.)
The NFL realizes an active gambler is an avid watcher. And that is what the league craves more than anything. In all probability, if the NFL could figure out a way in which they could run their own sports book, they would take bets on their games without blinking an eye.
But if the NFL can't profit off of gambling, then they are willing to take the stance against it, simply to appear to want everything on the up-and-up.
But the league knows the truth all too well: gambling, no matter the form it takes, makes the NFL the sporting powerhouse it is.
January 26, 2017, 8:30 AM EST
The NFL has a longstanding and fierce opposition to gambling, which is why many people doubted a team would ever play in Las Vegas. Now it appears that the Raiders will move to Las Vegas, but Commissioner Roger Goodell insists that the league’s stance on gambling hasn’t changed.
Asked by Colin Cowherd if the NFL is softening its opposition to gambling, as the NBA has under Commissioner Adam Silver, Goodell indicated that playing in America’s gambling capital doesn’t signal a shift for the NFL.
“We’ve seen the changes in the culture around the country in gambling,” Goodell said. “We’re obviously very sensitive to that, but we’re also going to evaluate the Raiders case on the relocation application in what’s in the overall best interests of the league. But one thing we can’t ever do is compromise on the game. That’s one of the things we’ll do is to make sure the policies we’ve created, if we did in any way approve the Raiders, I don’t see us compromising on any of the policies.”
In other words, the league is considering a move to Las Vegas because the taxpayers there are willing to devote hundreds of millions of dollars to a stadium, and the taxpayers in Oakland aren’t. As far as the NFL is concerned, that’s a separate issue from gambling.
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Won't compromise gambling policies?????
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Why The NFL's Stance Against Gambling Is Complete BS
July 25, 2009
In case you've missed it, the state of Delaware legalized sports gambling. The state is hoping to raise revenue through sports gambling by allowing betting on single games in all of the major sports leagues as well as on college sports.
Delaware would basically become a giant sports book. This is possible because the state previously had legalized sports gambling in 1979 when it ran a football "lottery." This so-called lottery was in actuality parlay cards and were only played on NFL games. Due to various factors, Delaware's original sports lottery lasted only a few short weeks before it was shut down.
When Congress passed a law outlawing sports gambling nationwide in 1992, it "grandfathered" in four states - Nevada, Delaware, Montana and Oregon - all of which had previously legalized some form of sports wagering.
Now due to the economic slump the state is in, Delaware believes returning to sports wagering will bring in millions of dollars to the suffering state. And professional sports are not happy about it.
The four major leagues - NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB - along with the NCAA has filed suit against the state attempting to stop the institution of this sports wagering plan.
The suit states that Delaware's plan ""would irreparably harm professional and amateur sports by fostering suspicion and skepticism that individual plays and final scores of games may have been influenced by factors other than honest athletic competition."
While that sounds all well and good to the public, the fact is even without legalized sports gambling, professional sports has a history of game fixing dating back to the mid-1800s (yes, the 1800s) which continues to this very day.
Also, a huge majority of current sports wagering is conducted illegally and through underground bookies, most of which are connected to organized crime. While no one knows for certain how much is being wagered illegally, the best estimates reach into the hundreds of billions of dollars a year.
Since the mid-1960s, the NFL has always publicly been against any form of wagering on its games, citing a similar stance taken to the one in the current lawsuit against Delaware.
But despite this public stance, the NFL knows full well that gambling on its games is what keeps the league both in the public's eye and profitable.
BS, you say? Read on.
Some gambling experts believe over a billion dollars is illegally wagered on NFL games alone during its regular season. That number rises during the playoffs.
Those people betting are also watching the games. In fact, most "fans" need some sort of "action" on the game to "enhance" the enjoyment of it. Be it a friendly wager, a strip card, some squares, an office pool, a parlay card, or a bet with a bookie, people are gambling. How many of you do the same?
Furthermore, the NFL clearly plays into this gambling habit its fans have. Why do you think the NFL's injury report even exists? It isn't used by opposing coaches to determine the other guy's weaknesses. It was specifically created in the 1950s for gamblers.
"Inside information" on injuries (much like the info NBA ref Tim Donaghy had access to and used successfully to win over 80% of his wagers) gave an informed bettor a distinct advantage. And during the 50s and 60s, when numerous NFL players were themselves wagering on games or working hand in hand with gamblers who wagered for them, injuries were an important factor on were their money was laid down.
The NFL's injury report was created to combat this. It continues to exist strictly for gamblers to use.
The NFL also maintains close contact with members of several Las Vegas sports books to monitor how their games are being bet and if there are any unusual fluctuations in the line. Though it rarely happens today due to the high volume of money bet, in the past games would often be taken off the boards because of suspected "oddities" in the wagers coming in. The thought was, these games were probably fixed.
And while that fact feeds into why the NFL publicly doesn't want sports gambling legalized, in all likelihood, illegal wagering - the unregulated kind - actually adds to the possibility of game fixing more than legal gambling does. With no one entity montioring these bettors or their bets, no one would know if things were looking "fishy" prior to kickoff.
Perhaps the most popular form of gambling isn't considered gambling at all by the NFL. And that is fantasy football.
From personal experience, I have not been in a fantasy football league where money wasn't "awarded" to the league's champion. That, my friends, is gambling. Yet due to the fact that the NFL cannot tell what each and every fantasy league out there is up to, they have plausible deniability against aiding in everyone's gambling...I mean, fantasy league.
The NFL openly encourages fantasy football. They allow leagues to be run on their own website. And I cannot believe they do not realize money is on the line in most, if not all, of those leagues. Yet at the same time, the NFL knows that fantasy football has aided in the league's popularity and in turn upped ratings and thus its profit.
So while the league takes an anti-gambling stance on every occasion, this is nothing but good PR. The truth is, the history and success of the NFL is tied directly to both the rise of gambling (especially the advent of the betting line) and television. In fact, all of sports television's rise to prominence is linked to gambling. (For those interested, these links will be further explained in my book. See my author page for more.)
The NFL realizes an active gambler is an avid watcher. And that is what the league craves more than anything. In all probability, if the NFL could figure out a way in which they could run their own sports book, they would take bets on their games without blinking an eye.
But if the NFL can't profit off of gambling, then they are willing to take the stance against it, simply to appear to want everything on the up-and-up.
But the league knows the truth all too well: gambling, no matter the form it takes, makes the NFL the sporting powerhouse it is.
bah007
Hall of Fame
I'd be interested in hearing how Carroll is responsible for Bush taking money from an agent?Kinda reminds me of NSZ thread in the past about speed limit signs (rules). Don't really mean what they say, it's just a suggestion. If everybody speeds it's ok for you (generic) to speed. It's today's entitled society. I do what I please, rules are for the other guy.
Pete Carrolls cheating goes way back to his USC days. Reggie Bush is the prime example.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Carroll wasn't responsible for Bush taking money. He was responsible for not investigating /reporting it and letting Bush continue to play.
Do you honestly think that Carroll didn't notice what was going on? Pete Carroll isn't that stupid. He knew.
http://www.businessinsider.com/usc-reggie-bush-bowl-ban-2010-6#the-new-carand-the-new-rimsand-the-car-alarmand-the-audio-system-3
The USC athletic dept., of which Carroll was a part, was corrupt at that point in time.
NFLN's ticker just scrolled that Byron Leftwich has been signed as Arizona's new QB coach.
Texian
Hall of Fame
- Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 34m34 minutes ago
New #Colts GM Chris Ballard, who is planning for '17 with coach Chuck Pagano as we speak, has been on the rise for years. Finds a great spot
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 47m47 minutes ago
The #Colts have hired GM Chris Ballard, formerly of the #Chiefs.
Texian
Hall of Fame
SI NFL @si_nfl 6m6 minutes ago
ICYMI: 49ers hire FOX Sports analyst John Lynch to be their next GM http://on.si.com/2kjbgtg
ICYMI: 49ers hire FOX Sports analyst John Lynch to be their next GM http://on.si.com/2kjbgtg
Bridgewater might miss entire 2017 season
LINK
Heard this on Mike & Mike this morning. I have to wonder if the Vikes knew this when Bridgewater first went down. If so, it makes that Bradford trade make much more sense.
LINK
Minnesota Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater’s gruesome knee injury that he suffered just prior to the 2016 season is so severe that it could keep him from seeing the field until 2018.
According to Jason Cole of Bleacher Report, doctors informed the Vikings that the recovery time for an injury as severe as Bridgewater’s would take at least 19 months. Bridgewater suffered a tibiofemoral dislocation and ruptured ACL, which requires extensive rehabilitation.
According to Jason Cole of Bleacher Report, doctors informed the Vikings that the recovery time for an injury as severe as Bridgewater’s would take at least 19 months. Bridgewater suffered a tibiofemoral dislocation and ruptured ACL, which requires extensive rehabilitation.
Heard this on Mike & Mike this morning. I have to wonder if the Vikes knew this when Bridgewater first went down. If so, it makes that Bradford trade make much more sense.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
NFL will bethinking of reducing game commercials from 5 TV timeout commercials per quarter to 4. That's still alot of commercials since we're foreced to sit through an umteenth number commercials during team timeouts, injuries, replay reviews, etc.
Showtime100
Got JJ?
That's no sheot. Funny, Sometimes on Thursday and Sunday nights I would forget which channel to turn on for the game. The first channel I hit that has a commercial on I drop the remote without even looking to see if I'm right. Works everytime..lol.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Unfortunately, looks like my suspicions right after his injury was reported has come to be well-founded.
A contact knee dislocation is a very rare injury. A non-contact knee dislocation tends to be closer to a unicorn sighting. "Skinny knees" may sound like a good explanation for setting up such an occurrence, but there is truly no anatomical basis for this theory. If you were to look for a legitimate predisposing factor, it would most likely be found in an inheritable condition known as Joint Hypermobility Syndrome, a condition that features joints that easily move beyond the normal range expected for that particular joint. You would probably more readily recognize the condition under the name of "double-jointed." This is usually seen in children and in young adults and can involve the fingers, hips, elbows, ankles and knees. The underlying problem appears to be a weakness of the collagen connective tissues, which are the major components of the ligaments. There is a significantly higher incidence of joint dislocation and sprains of the involved joints with this condition. In the case of the knees, these patients must maintain good muscle development/strength in order to minimize/avoid the instability in that joint. It is easy to understand how much more important this is for a football player with all the stresses that are imparted onto his joint. Possibly giving more credence to this possibility is is the fact that he suffered a couple of non-contact ankle sprains at LSU, then was carted of the field his first game as a starter in the NFL with another non-contact ankle sprain. At least something interesting to think about.
When I'm watching on tv I'm rarely watching in real time.
Whether it's a football game or whatever. I hardly watch commercials anymore.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
I googled tibiofemoral dislocation. Not a good idea. Hopefully teddy can recover fully.
Scooter
Funky
Touchdown! (commercial) ... Point after! (commercial) ... Kickoff! (commercial) ... Time Out! (commercial). But hey, for the 5 minutes of football you watch, we'll reduce the commercials from 20 to 16 minutes. Winning.
I don't actually care because I'm knocking down beers with my family or fast-forwarding at home, but still ... that's just stupid.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Interesting fact - All seven WR's on the FALCONS roster wear jersey numbers 10 - 20. Not one wears a number in the 80's. How bout that?
11 Jones, Julio WR 6-3 220 27 6 Alabama
12 Sanu, Mohamed WR 6-2 210 27 5 Rutgers
14 Weems, Eric WR 5-9 195 31 10 Bethune-Cookman
15 Williams, Nick WR 5-10 184 26 3 Connecticut
16 Hardy, Justin WR 5-10 192 25 2 East Carolina
18 Gabriel, Taylor WR 5-8 167 25 3 Abilene Christian
19 Robinson, Aldrick WR 5-10 187 28 4 Southern Methodist
11 Jones, Julio WR 6-3 220 27 6 Alabama
12 Sanu, Mohamed WR 6-2 210 27 5 Rutgers
14 Weems, Eric WR 5-9 195 31 10 Bethune-Cookman
15 Williams, Nick WR 5-10 184 26 3 Connecticut
16 Hardy, Justin WR 5-10 192 25 2 East Carolina
18 Gabriel, Taylor WR 5-8 167 25 3 Abilene Christian
19 Robinson, Aldrick WR 5-10 187 28 4 Southern Methodist
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
According to NFL jersey numbering rules, that would be expected for the WR position (10-19...........20 cannot be used by a WR) IF numbers 80-89 are all already assigned. BUT......the Falcons have only assigned 4 jersey numbers (All TEs, which share WR jersey numbers) in the 80s range. Only possible explanation I can think of is that the other 5 jerseys in the 80s were assigned to players that were on the roster but released sometime during the season or assigned to players in previous seasons..........overlapping the necessity for new WR numbers????
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I certainly may have missed it, but not seeing that 'if' in the rulebook ...
2016 NFL Rulebook said:
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Thanks for the update! Apparently, the new rules have now made what used to be "alternate" numbers used only if the others have been assigned are now available as primary choices.
The previous rules as pertain to this subject:
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Player Numbers by Position
(NFL Rule 5, Section 1, Article 4)
All players must wear numerals on their jerseys in accordance with Rule 5, Section 3, Article 3c (see NOTE 1), and such numerals must be by playing position as follows: quarterbacks, punters, and placekickers, 1-19 (and 10-19 for wide receivers if 80-89 are all otherwise assigned); running backs and defensive backs, 20-49; centers, 50-59 (60-79 if 50-59 unavailable); offensive guards and tackles, 60-79; wide receivers and tight ends, 80-89; defensive lineman, 60-79 (90-99 if 60-79 unavailable); and linebackers 50-59 (90-99 if 50-59 unavailable).
If a player changes his position during his playing career in the NFL and such change moves him out of a category specified above, he must be issued an appropriate new jersey number.
Any request to wear a number for a special position not specified above (e.g., H-back) must be made to the Commissioner.
During the preseason period when rosters are larger, the League will allow duplication and other temporary deviations from the numbering scheme specified above, but the rule must be adhered to for all players during the regular season and postseason. Clubs must make numbers available to adhere to the rule, even if it requires putting back into circulation a number that has been retired or withheld for other reasons. See 7-2-3 for reporting change of position. (Note 2)
NOTES:
- 5, 3, 3c has to do with the size and placement of the numerals
- 7, 2, 3 rules regarding notifying the referee of eligibility if wearing and ineligible number for a position. Basically, any player wearing an eligible number at a pass receiving position (running backs, tight ends, and wide receivers) can play any eligible pass receiving position without reporting to the referee. That is, running backs can line up as wide receivers or tight ends, and players wearing wide receiver and/or tight end numbers can line up in the backfield without having to report to the referee.
In summary:
Position(s)......................Primary/Alternate
QB, P, K...........................1-19
RB, DB.............................20-49
C.....................................50-59/60-79
G, T.................................60-79
WR..................................80-89/10-19
TE...................................80-89
DL (NT/DT/DE).................60-79/90-99
LB...................................50-59/90-99
Steve Sarkisian named Falcons offensive coordinator.
Wait... Steve "fired-for-coming-to-work-drunk" Sarkisian?
PapaL
Loose Screw
Shows that he cares! Most people pass out, he came to work. That's dedication.
#AlternativeFacts
MightyTExan
It's go time!
The NFL Live crew talked about this move. Like the article said, this was in the works long before they got to the SB. They said that Smith "wanted to pursue other things".
Whatever that means.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
D'Qwell Jackson has been released by the Colts. His performance has not been what it used to be, but it was certainly much better than any other ILB on the team.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Fearless Forecast - September 7, 2017 Thursday night NFL Kickoff -
Atlanta Falcons @ NE Patriots - SB rematch.
Only 3 teams NE plays at home that have a chance to be the Thursday night opener, IMO, Falcons, Chiefs, Texans.
The following from MMQB....
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/02/13/tom-brady-montana-super-bowl-51-nfl-patriots-peter-king
As for Game One, 2017 …
On Sept. 7 in Foxboro, the Patriots will host the first game of the season. (I’m assuming it will be Roger Goodell’s re-debut in the middle of these six friendly states.) Thoughts on the Patriots’ opening-night foe, with odds:
Foe Odds Thoughts
KC 2-1 Easiest choice. Andy Reid’s team is always competitive
HOU 4-1 Playoff rematch—with a better passer, Tom Savage or Tony Romo
ATL 9-2 Can’t see NFL wasting Super Bowl rematch second year in a row
CAR 6-1 The NFL heard Ron Rivera’s anger over ’16 opener at champ Denver
MIA 10-1 Outside shot, but two one-sided games in ’16 hurt this one
LAC 20-1 Philip Rivers and a decent pass rush. Meh
BUF 50-1 Not happening
NYJ 75-1 Really not happening
Atlanta Falcons @ NE Patriots - SB rematch.
Only 3 teams NE plays at home that have a chance to be the Thursday night opener, IMO, Falcons, Chiefs, Texans.
The following from MMQB....
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/02/13/tom-brady-montana-super-bowl-51-nfl-patriots-peter-king
As for Game One, 2017 …
On Sept. 7 in Foxboro, the Patriots will host the first game of the season. (I’m assuming it will be Roger Goodell’s re-debut in the middle of these six friendly states.) Thoughts on the Patriots’ opening-night foe, with odds:
Foe Odds Thoughts
KC 2-1 Easiest choice. Andy Reid’s team is always competitive
HOU 4-1 Playoff rematch—with a better passer, Tom Savage or Tony Romo
ATL 9-2 Can’t see NFL wasting Super Bowl rematch second year in a row
CAR 6-1 The NFL heard Ron Rivera’s anger over ’16 opener at champ Denver
MIA 10-1 Outside shot, but two one-sided games in ’16 hurt this one
LAC 20-1 Philip Rivers and a decent pass rush. Meh
BUF 50-1 Not happening
NYJ 75-1 Really not happening
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Vince Young has just contracted with a new agent.............Leigh Steinberg. Sad that he squandered all of his money and is left with no tools (Wunderlic 8) to make any without digging ditches or finding a sucker team looking to take on an albatross. Steinberg must also be getting desperate........or gone back to drinking. 
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Did UT fire him from that 'ambassador' job he had?Vince Young has just contracted with a new agent.............Leigh Steinberg. Sad that he squandered all of his money and is left with no tools (Wunderlic 8) to make any without digging ditches or finding a sucker team looking to take on an albatross. Steinberg must also be getting desperate........or gone back to drinking.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Don't really know, but this certainly won't serve his Alma Mater very well.
Ex-NFL star Vince Young arrested for DUI in Texas after being spotted driving erratically and failing field sobriety test
- Young, 32, charged with misdemeanor charge of driving while intoxicated in Austin Sunday
- Was released from county jail Monday morning after posting $2,000 bail
- Arrest affidavit states Young admitted to a police officer that he had consumed three or four beers before getting in his pickup truck
- Young failed a field sobriety test after officer observed that his speech was slurred and he was unsteady on his feet