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Texans DE J.J. Watt undergoes back surgery (out for season 9/27)

I think we will have Kareem, Kevin Johnson and Joseph playing corner most plays as did last season with two safeties. Could also see Wilfork and Reader on line together on run plays. I think DBs will be targeted much more without Watt trying to cash out the QBs life insurance policy. Going to be an interesting if not necessarily a fun season.
 
IDEXAN said:
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I'd hate to see Clowney at LDE. I personally don't think he's big enough. He's got the length & speed, but I don't think he's strong enough to lock horns with an Eric Winston or Derek Newton. Granted, a Duane Brown or Tyron Smith ain't Bambi... but they're normally left on islands.

He's perfect for a 4-3 RDE though & Whitney is probably the most well rounded OLB on the team, regardless what front we show.

Joel Heather has the size... doubt he can replace Watt, won't be Strahan or Reggie White, or even Robert Mathis. But maybe he can be our John Simon & set the edge
lIke a mutha.

Cush, McKinney, & Merciless would be my starting LBs.
 
DocBar said:
I understand that. He should be fairly cheap and it would allow the Texans some depth and talent if they wanted to line up in a 4-3 base while JJ is out.
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I think there are probably better options than a 36 yr old one trick pony
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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His surgery was performed on 7/20/16. From what I can gather, he has undergone a microscopic lumbar discectomy.

A November 2012 study published in the American Journal of Sports Medicine of 78 professional athletes undergoing this procedure, 89.3% returned to sport. The average time it took operative patients to return to their sport (return time) was 5.8 months. Progressive return data for surgically treated patients showed the percentage of athletes who returned increased from 50% at 3 months to 72% at 6 months to 77% at 9 months and 84% at 12 months.
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Double Barrel said:
Thanks for your insight, Dr., as always.

It sounds like we might face the real possibility that Watt will not play a lot this season, and maybe not at all. Rushing him back too soon is stupid. .
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So in this case, what would be too soon?

Anything short of 3 months? We shouldn't expect to see him before November?
 
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I'd guess that we still keep a 34 base. But we'll certainly have no problem using four man fronts in passing situations with Clowney or Mercilus at DE.
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Sorry... can't help but laugh. That's the funniest sht I've ever heard.

Seegara said:
Looking back, instead of going after Oz, I wish the Toros had traded Watt straight up for the #1 pick, and drafted Jared Goff.
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I stand corrected
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Totally agree..............especially with your statement "I don't understand working with 100 million dollar athletes and doing exercises that place unnecessary risks on their bodies, especially when you consider how taxing football itself is to the body." You've got to begin wondering where the training and medical staff is. I've spoken to this in the past re. both Watt's and Cushing's ridiculous exercise regimens. They serve strictly as unnecessary "showboating." And those box jumps are especially therapeutic for a bad back, right?


Posted on HT.com: Apr 2, 2016
Watt updates injury with box jump video
J.J. Watt added this video with the description "Post-surgery progress." to his Twitter account @JJWatt Saturday morning.

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What do you expect the Texans medical staff to do about these "extra" workouts? Many of which are in the offseason.

At most they can educate Jj & Cush using the video to point out the bad form & what not, but flipping tires to Jj & box jumps to Cush are like college parties & night clubs to a certain Aggie we all know & love.
 
thunderkyss said:
What do you expect the Texans medical staff to do about these "extra" workouts? Many of which are in the offseason.

At most they can educate Jj & Cush using the video to point out the bad form & what not, but flipping tires to Jj & box jumps to Cush are like college parties & night clubs to a certain Aggie we all know & love.
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If it were me, I'd ask which they like more, working out or making 7-8 figure salaries per year, because some of their methods of training are putting their ability to earn their contracts at risk. Elite sports are inherently unhealthy, it doesn't make sense to put your body at risk during training as well. The body can only tolerate so much, the goal of training should be to make the body more robust to better handle the stresses of competition (which in FB are quite high). Those dangerous exercises (the ultra high box jumps and 1000 pound tire flips) can be replaced with equally effective but less stressful options. I'd think both those guys are smart enough to see the light if they explained the situation properly
 
thunderkyss said:
What do you expect the Texans medical staff to do about these "extra" workouts? Many of which are in the offseason.

At most they can educate Jj & Cush using the video to point out the bad form & what not, but flipping tires to Jj & box jumps to Cush are like college parties & night clubs to a certain Aggie we all know & love.
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If it were me, I'd ask which they like more, working out or making 7-8 figure salaries per year, because some of their methods of training are putting their ability to earn their contracts at risk. Elite sports are inherently unhealthy, it doesn't make sense to put your body at risk during training as well. The body can only tolerate so much, the goal of training should be to make the body more robust to better handle the stresses of competition (which in FB are quite high). Those dangerous exercises (the ultra high box jumps and 1000 pound tire flips) can be replaced with equally effective but less stressful options. I'd think both those guys are smart enough to see the light if they explained the situation properly
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TK, I could not have answered your question any better than the one offered by otibean. I would add the following. Elite athletes are many times held in awe concerning their football skills IQ. My own experience dealing with some of these players, this IQ does not always translate very well into common sense IQ. These athletes will many times have their contracts list certain activity restrictions deemed that help teams "protect" their asset.....activities that may put the athlete's health at risk.........but not all of such activities can practically be included. Some must be left to common sense......a target quality that is not always present. These athletes have to understand that their contracts cover years of "service," especially so when guaranteed monies (for future services) are expected and offered............not a couple of months here and a couple months there out of the year. Teams may not have the "right" to get involved in all aspects of an athlete's life, but they should have significant input in order to protect their expensive interests. A strong training and medical staff, especially one that is respected by the athlete would have a strong influence on how they train, whether within hands throw or from the other ends of the earth.
 
I am going to give Watt and Cushing the benefit of the doubt. I would prefer all the Texans train with their intensity. Watt has not missed a game in 5 years, earning three DPOY awards and Cushing has battled back from two serious contact related knee injuries to reestablish himself as a top ILB in the league. Neither have been susceptible to missing time for soft tissue type injuries.

Maybe if players like Foster and Clowney trained similar to Watt and Cushing they wouldn't miss so much time. Maybe they are unlucky or maybe some players just train harder and are willing to play through a little more pain. Until Watt becomes Clowney and repeatedly misses time for every injury under the sun and illnesses I am going to give him and his training regimen the benefit of the doubt.
 
gs27 said:
I am going to give Watt and Cushing the benefit of the doubt. I would prefer all the Texans train with their intensity. Watt has not missed a game in 5 years, earning three DPOY awards and Cushing has battled back from two serious contact related knee injuries to reestablish himself as a top ILB in the league. Neither have been susceptible to missing time for soft tissue type injuries.

Maybe if players like Foster and Clowney trained similar to Watt and Cushing they wouldn't miss so much time. Maybe they are unlucky or maybe some players just train harder and are willing to play through a little more pain. Until Watt becomes Clowney and repeatedly misses time for every injury under the sun and illnesses I am going to give him and his training regimen the benefit of the doubt.
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A Top ILB in the league? Surely you're kidding! Luke Kuechly is the best ILB in the league and Cushing today is no where near that level. There are probably 20 guys ranked higher than Cushing. Let's be realistic.

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#22 - Cushing
#24 - BMac


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nking-the-top-50-inside-linebackers-from-2015

22. Brian Cushing, Houston Texans
Patric Schneider/Associated Press

Pass Rush
2/10
The often injured linebacker played all 16 games in 2015, which was a nice change for Texans fans. Brian Cushing was unable to record any sacks in 2015, which was not a change that fans wanted to see. Early in his career, he was great at pressuring the quarterback, but those skills are diminishing.

Run Defense
27/30
Not many linebackers have the size-to-speed ratio that Cushing has, and not many fill gaps and get off blocks like him, either. The seven-year veteran has been a run-stopping machine with his ability to sift through trash and explode into blockers. He knocks linemen off balance and sheds like no other while relentlessly attacking the ball-carrier.



Coverage
19/20
His turn-and-run skills are exceptional, as are his instincts to read and recognize receivers in his coverage area. Cushing can match up with tight ends and stay on their hip upfield. He is a running back's nightmare when blowing up screens and working to the flats.

Tackling
19/30
The number of missed tackles has been a problem. The total of 16 missed tackles this season signifies a problem that needs correcting. Too often in his career Cushing has gone for the knockout blow when making tackles, which has resulted in the missed tackles. As his career plays on, he will hopefully remain healthy and work on becoming more of a sure tackler than a punishing one.

Position Value
9/9

Overall
76/99


24. Benardrick McKinney, Houston Texans
Mark Zaleski/Associated Press

Pass Rush
5/10
Benardrick McKinney is an athletic, 6’4”, 246-pound linebacker who can move and get after the football. His rare blend of strength and size makes him a great threat to bend the edge or get up the middle on interior linemen.

Run Defense
23/30
The typical take-on linebacker, McKinney loves to take on and shed blockers. Not only does he take them on, but he handles them well too. The linebacker uses his feet to slide and drive with exceptional lower-body strength. In addition to his strength, he has a knack for finding the ball and punishing runners.

Coverage
13/20
His coverage skills need some work, but with his athleticism and football IQ, McKinney will surely catch on quickly. He has the size to match up well with all tight ends in the league and keep up with them up the seam. He needs to work on moving in space and recognition of receivers in his zone of coverage.

Tackling
25/30
McKinney is an aggressive tackler and doesn’t miss many tackles, either. His total of four missed tackles in 2015 shows he has the ability to be a sure tackler in the NFL. Due to his height, McKinney has the tendency to play too upright, which can lead to missed tackles. He will need to keep his center of gravity in check before it becomes a problem.

Position Value
9/9


Overall
75/99
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PapaL said:
A Top ILB in the league? Surely you're kidding! Luke Kuechly is the best ILB in the league and Cushing today is no where near that level. There are probably 20 guys ranked higher than Cushing. Let's be realistic.
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Sorry, should have been clearer. Based on last season, IMO, Cushing is a top ILB in the league, IMO top 10. He is not the top ILB in the league. It is rare for a player to overcome multiple major knee injuries and come back to be an impact player, Cushing has done that. Nobody is near Kuechly, he is the second best defensive player in the league, and IMO the second most valuable non QB. I do not value bleacher report for player rankings.
 
gs27 said:
I am going to give Watt and Cushing the benefit of the doubt. I would prefer all the Texans train with their intensity. Watt has not missed a game in 5 years, earning three DPOY awards and Cushing has battled back from two serious contact related knee injuries to reestablish himself as a top ILB in the league. Neither have been susceptible to missing time for soft tissue type injuries.

Maybe if players like Foster and Clowney trained similar to Watt and Cushing they wouldn't miss so much time. Maybe they are unlucky or maybe some players just train harder and are willing to play through a little more pain. Until Watt becomes Clowney and repeatedly misses time for every injury under the sun and illnesses I am going to give him and his training regimen the benefit of the doubt.
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To me, it looks like a possible form issue & if I were the Texans, my conversation would be more "educational" If they're going to work out with this dude, or that dude... they need to find out what they're getting for their money.

Flipping a 1000lb tire may be dangerous from the fact that it might fall on him, but that's not what happened here. It's his form, the way he bends over to grab that tire that may have caused the herniated disc, which may very well have ended his career.

Now... he does work out with the Texans for a good part of the year, is that form something they should have seen & corrected?
 
Anytime they open you up and take body parts out of your back I don't think you will ever be the same person you were before.
 
gs27 said:
I am going to give Watt and Cushing the benefit of the doubt. I would prefer all the Texans train with their intensity. Watt has not missed a game in 5 years, earning three DPOY awards and Cushing has battled back from two serious contact related knee injuries to reestablish himself as a top ILB in the league. Neither have been susceptible to missing time for soft tissue type injuries.

Maybe if players like Foster and Clowney trained similar to Watt and Cushing they wouldn't miss so much time. Maybe they are unlucky or maybe some players just train harder and are willing to play through a little more pain. Until Watt becomes Clowney and repeatedly misses time for every injury under the sun and illnesses I am going to give him and his training regimen the benefit of the doubt.
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As relates to activities like high box jumps and tire tosses, such reasoning is what can get good players into trouble. These activities do not make great players that can better avoid missing time with injuries. In fact, it is more the case that these players have avoided missing time with injuries DESPITE participating in such exercises. Some take longer to realize this than others. But most are forced into speed learning once they incur a series of major injuries, especially when mechanically related. Remind me, when was the last time Cushing with his questionable knees recorded a video of him doing a high box jump. As concerns Watt, he posts a video of himself doing high box jumps in support of how extremely well his back is rehabbing........and the next thing you know, shortly thereafter, he requires disc back surgery. The bottom line is that both Cushing and Watt could have made it as elite athletes without having ever heard of box jumps or tire tosses.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
As relates to activities like high box jumps and tire tosses, such reasoning is what can get good players into trouble. These activities do not make great players that can better avoid missing time with injuries. In fact, it is more the case that these players have avoided missing time with injuries DESPITE participating in such exercises. Some take longer to realize this than others. But most are forced into speed learning once they incur a series of major injuries, especially when mechanically related. Remind me, when was the last time Cushing with his questionable knees recorded a video of him doing a high box jump. As concerns Watt, he posts a video of himself doing high box jumps in support of how extremely well his back is rehabbing........and the next thing you know, shortly thereafter, he requires disc back surgery. The bottom line is that both Cushing and Watt could have made it as elite athletes without having ever heard of box jumps or tire tosses.
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Doc a little off subject here but what is your take on Tiger Woods? Was his swing mechanics alone enough to derail him or was it when he became a weight room workout warrior that was his undoing. Or a did Tiger's weight room dedication only expedite the inevitable of what was already in the cards with his power swing? Some say it was Elin Nordegren's 9 iron that was his undoing. He hasn't won a major since that 9 iron shot heard around the world.
 
Texian said:
Doc a little off subject here but what is your take on Tiger Woods? Was his swing mechanics alone enough to derail him or was it when he became a weight room workout warrior that was his undoing. Or a did Tiger's weight room dedication only expedite the inevitable of what was already in the cards with his power swing? Some say it was Elin Nordegren's 9 iron that was his undoing. He hasn't won a major since that 9 iron shot heard around the world.
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Dude's been at it for what 20+ years? So it was likely both.....his power swing & that increased weight room dedication that is...........Your body doesn't take too well to those types of things as you get older.
 
Texian said:
Doc a little off subject here but what is your take on Tiger Woods? Was his swing mechanics alone enough to derail him or was it when he became a weight room workout warrior that was his undoing. Or a did Tiger's weight room dedication only expedite the inevitable of what was already in the cards with his power swing? Some say it was Elin Nordegren's 9 iron that was his undoing. He hasn't won a major since that 9 iron shot heard around the world.
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What do Tiger Woods and JJ Watt have in common around the same time as requiring back surgery? :thinking: Would like to know the Docs take on that
 
Texian said:
Doc a little off subject here but what is your take on Tiger Woods? Was his swing mechanics alone enough to derail him or was it when he became a weight room workout warrior that was his undoing. Or a did Tiger's weight room dedication only expedite the inevitable of what was already in the cards with his power swing? Some say it was Elin Nordegren's 9 iron that was his undoing. He hasn't won a major since that 9 iron shot heard around the world.
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So that this thread again is not derailed, I'll answer your question in this thread in relationship to Watt. Tiger has had at least 3 surgeries on his left knee. This took its toll on his golf mechanics, with expected compensatory maladjustments to his core............almost assuredly leading to his back problems. He's had 2 microdiscectomies, like JJ's. If you think of a vertebral disc as a jelly donut, you can sort of picture how a disc works. The outside dough is a solid containment wall for the jelly within the center. If you place too much pressure on the top of the jelly roll, it will create a tear somewhere around its perimeter. The jelly will then protrude through the defect placing pressure on the nerve which then in turn causing pain over the nerve's distribution. The microdiscectomy simply removes the portion of "jelly" that is bulging beyond the disc wall, and the wall is then repaired with a suture or two. It typically relieves the nerve pressure symptoms, but has nothing to do with any associate back pains or the reason the disc herniated/ruptured in the first place. In other words, it is usually a temporary partial fix for the nerve aspect. But the source of the back pain and disc herniation/rupture (vertebral anatomy, inflammation, continued stress placed on the disc) has not been addressed. Once Tiger had undergone his first disc procedure, he should have backed off of any very heavy lifting, especially overhead and dead lifts, because it would recreate the same environment for the jelly donut to be further compressed and subsequently rupture once again, as it did. As Tiger has always been somewhat of a workout warrior, he didn't follow his body's warnings.

And that brings me back to Watt, whose inability to engage in very heavy lifting will be more of a problem than to a golfer. Watt is more likely to worry about losing some of his strength than heeding his body's warning and worrying about the inevitable consequences.

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CloakNNNdagger said:
So that this thread again is not derailed, I'll answer your question in this thread in relationship to Watt. Tiger has had at least 3 surgeries on his left knee. This took its toll on his golf mechanics, with expected compensatory maladjustments to his core............almost assuredly leading to his back problems. He's had 2 microdiscectomies, like JJ's. If you think of a vertebral disc as a jelly donut, you can sort of picture how a disc works. The outside dough is a solid containment wall for the jelly within the center. If you place too much pressure on the top of the jelly roll, it will create a tear somewhere around its perimeter. The jelly will then protrude through the defect placing pressure on the nerve which then in turn causing pain over the nerve's distribution. The microdiscectomy simply removes the portion of "jelly" that is bulging beyond the disc wall, and the wall is then repaired with a suture or two. It typically relieves the nerve pressure symptoms, but has nothing to do with any associate back pains or the reason the disc herniated/ruptured in the first place. In other words, it is usually a temporary partial fix for the nerve aspect. But the source of the back pain and disc herniation/rupture (vertebral anatomy, inflammation, continued stress placed on the disc) has not been addressed. Once Tiger had undergone his first disc procedure, he should have backed off of any very heavy lifting, especially overhead and dead lifts, because it would recreate the same environment for the jelly roll to be further compressed and subsequently rupture once again, as it did. As Tiger has always been somewhat of a workout warrior, he didn't follow his body's warnings.

And that brings me back to Watt, whose heavy lifting will be more of a problem than to a golfer. Watt is more likely to worry about losing some of his strength than heading his body's warning and worrying about the inevitable consequences.
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Great.
Now I'll never look at a jelly donut the same way.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
So that this thread again is not derailed, I'll answer your question in this thread in relationship to Watt. Tiger has had at least 3 surgeries on his left knee. This took its toll on his golf mechanics, with expected compensatory maladjustments to his core............almost assuredly leading to his back problems. He's had 2 microdiscectomies, like JJ's. If you think of a vertebral disc as a jelly donut, you can sort of picture how a disc works. The outside dough is a solid containment wall for the jelly within the center. If you place too much pressure on the top of the jelly roll, it will create a tear somewhere around its perimeter. The jelly will then protrude through the defect placing pressure on the nerve which then in turn causing pain over the nerve's distribution. The microdiscectomy simply removes the portion of "jelly" that is bulging beyond the disc wall, and the wall is then repaired with a suture or two. It typically relieves the nerve pressure symptoms, but has nothing to do with any associate back pains or the reason the disc herniated/ruptured in the first place. In other words, it is usually a temporary partial fix for the nerve aspect. But the source of the back pain and disc herniation/rupture (vertebral anatomy, inflammation, continued stress placed on the disc) has not been addressed. Once Tiger had undergone his first disc procedure, he should have backed off of any very heavy lifting, especially overhead and dead lifts, because it would recreate the same environment for the jelly donut to be further compressed and subsequently rupture once again, as it did. As Tiger has always been somewhat of a workout warrior, he didn't follow his body's warnings.

And that brings me back to Watt, whose inability to engage in very heavy lifting will be more of a problem than to a golfer. Watt is more likely to worry about losing some of his strength than heeding his body's warning and worrying about the inevitable consequences.

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Thanks again! So was Nick Martin's jelly donuts missing some jelly?
 
gs27 said:
I am going to give Watt and Cushing the benefit of the doubt. I would prefer all the Texans train with their intensity. Watt has not missed a game in 5 years, earning three DPOY awards and Cushing has battled back from two serious contact related knee injuries to reestablish himself as a top ILB in the league. Neither have been susceptible to missing time for soft tissue type injuries.

Maybe if players like Foster and Clowney trained similar to Watt and Cushing they wouldn't miss so much time. Maybe they are unlucky or maybe some players just train harder and are willing to play through a little more pain. Until Watt becomes Clowney and repeatedly misses time for every injury under the sun and illnesses I am going to give him and his training regimen the benefit of the doubt.[/QUO
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gs27 said:
I am going to give Watt and Cushing the benefit of the doubt. I would prefer all the Texans train with their intensity. Watt has not missed a game in 5 years, earning three DPOY awards and Cushing has battled back from two serious contact related knee injuries to reestablish himself as a top ILB in the league. Neither have been susceptible to missing time for soft tissue type injuries.

Maybe if players like Foster and Clowney trained similar to Watt and Cushing they wouldn't miss so much time. Maybe they are unlucky or maybe some players just train harder and are willing to play through a little more pain. Until Watt becomes Clowney and repeatedly misses time for every injury under the sun and illnesses I am going to give him and his training regimen the benefit of the doubt.
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Lol sounds like the white guys are assumed to be harder workers with the BENEFIT of the doubt and the black guys are lazy and get just doubt lol.
 
O’Brien says Watt will be back “sooner than later”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/22/obrien-says-watt-will-be-back-sooner-than-later/

Posted by Mike Florio on August 22, 2016, 9:29 AM EDT

Last week, ESPN’s Ed Werder tweeted that Texans coach Bill O’Brien said he’s unsure defensive end J.J. Watt will play in the first two regular-season games of the year following unexpected back surgery earlier in the summer. Asked about what he said (or didn’t say) by reporters on Sunday, O’Brien said something far less specific

“I’m not on Twitter, so I’m not sure about that but I just don’t think anybody can predict when J.J. will be back,” O’Brien said. “I would say though that knowing J.J. the way I do that he’ll be back sooner rather than later. He’s progressing really well. He’s been able to do some things on the Alter-G Treadmill in there, which is a really good sign so as you guys would expect J.J. is really wanting to do a lot more and he’s doing a good job of following the doctor’s orders but we feel good about where’s he’s at right now relative to the beginning of the season.”

So, basically, Watt will be listed as questionable or doubtful for Week One, and no one will know whether he’s actually going to play unless he does. And that will continue on a weekly basis until he does.
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I have it on good authority that the disk is still severely herniated and will require another surgery. What that means as far as rehab is unknown to me, but I would assume 6 weeks at least. Take the information for what you will.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I have it on good authority that the disk is still severely herniated and will require another surgery. What that means as far as rehab is unknown to me, but I would assume 6 weeks at least. Take the information for what you will.
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If there is any ounce of truth to that statement he's out for the year!
 
TexansSeminole said:
I have it on good authority that the disk is still severely herniated and will require another surgery. What that means as far as rehab is unknown to me, but I would assume 6 weeks at least. Take the information for what you will.
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FWIW Seminole's info has always been right on the money. I don't recall when he's been wrong anytime before.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I have it on good authority that the disk is still severely herniated and will require another surgery. What that means as far as rehab is unknown to me, but I would assume 6 weeks at least. Take the information for what you will.
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Damn, man, that's a real bummer. I knew it was only a matter of time before we started seeing the signs of wear and tear on his body from his high motor play.

Even if it means losing him for a season, I hope they don't try to rush it. Back injuries tend to linger, especially if not rehabbed correctly. Obviously, the doctors know this, but there is also the reality of needing him on the field that tends to cloud those kinds of decisions.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I have it on good authority that the disk is still severely herniated and will require another surgery. What that means as far as rehab is unknown to me, but I would assume 6 weeks at least. Take the information for what you will.
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Somebody needs to tell O'Brien because that ain't the song he's been singing regarding Watt's return.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I have it on good authority that the disk is still severely herniated and will require another surgery. What that means as far as rehab is unknown to me, but I would assume 6 weeks at least. Take the information for what you will.
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CND, maybe you can clear this up. If the disk was operated on, how can it still be "severely herniated" unless he re-injured it? Am I missing something here?
 
TexansSeminole said:
I have it on good authority that the disk is still severely herniated and will require another surgery. What that means as far as rehab is unknown to me, but I would assume 6 weeks at least. Take the information for what you will.
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As my post following his extensive bilateral sports hernia and back surgeries have reflected, I have been very guarded about his future.........not only as Superman, but as a football player. If this is indeed true, this is exactly what I was concerned about, after his cumulative major core injuries. The microdiscectomy procedure removes the initially damaged portion of a disk. Microdiscectomies are found to fail, many times after a period of relief, and back and nerve compression problems continue or return in ~25% of cases and the surgery must be repeated. The next option usually considered (if there is enough disk material that can be retained) is another microdiscectomy, which again can be therapeutic to variable extent and variable amount of time. This simply is because it has lost some of its water content which causes decreased shock absorption with uneven pressure on the compromised disk. This then tends to lead to continued structural changes and instability. ............and this is the case in an accountant or a lawyer. Now address an NFL lineman who is very tall, heavy and continually requires bending, torquing and twisting of the body against resistance, and you can imagine the additional stress the back (especially the lower back) and their disks will endure. If the second microdiscectomy fails, typically the next option given is a removal of the disc with insertion of a prosthetic disk or with a vertebral fusion.............both of these extremely long recoveries........and very likely career ending. I hope that this is not the fate of one of the NFL's greatest players.

One last thought. This could be another disk level that Watt is dealing with. When one level is compromised, it is all too common for an adjacent level to be affected concomitantly or in the future.
 
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Texian said:
FWIW Seminole's info has always been right on the money. I don't recall when he's been wrong anytime before.
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I'm not really one to get insider info nor set up to recieve it, given I don't live in Houston. But, I got this information from someone I know 100% isn't lying or exaggerating. How it plays out, I don't know, but it doesn't sound good.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I'm not really one to get insider info nor set up to recieve it, given I don't live in Houston. But, I got this information from someone I know 100% isn't lying or exaggerating. How it plays out, I don't know, but it doesn't sound good.
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You've always been spot on before so I'm not doubting you. What's up with FSU this year, what's prognosis and how's your QB?
 
Texian said:
You've always been spot on before so I'm not doubting you. What's up with FSU this year, what's prognosis and how's your QB?
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A lot like last year. Questionable QB situation, questionable linebackers, poor defensive scheming, excellent secondary.

I saw the QB here in Orlando at the spring game. He looked OK, but he's just a RS Freshman so it's a big question mark. I'm sure Jimbo will have him playing better than 90% of coaches would, but I don't know if it's going to be enough to win the ACC. He's not Jameis, I knew Jameis was going to be special after his first 3 drop backs, this guy appears average at this point.

The prediction for them to win it all are misplaced to put it mildly. Too many question marks at key spots.
 
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