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All encompassing Rick Smith thread
- Thread starter djohn2oo8
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leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
You can point to smith failures, but overlook the picks he's made. Has he missed? Yes, but his misses are accented more by the fact they dont have a qb. Remember all those picks BB had and everyone was praising? Look at his track record if players post Peoili. Guyton,Butler, the speedster from nc who was suppose to replace moss. What about dobson and thompkins? He has tons of misses, but Tom Brady and his coaching covers them up.
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translated version... Kubiak is a GOD who turned sh!t into gold. Wade is his disciple. Smith and McNair suck, but not as much as OB, who is the biggest joking dumba$$ ever and shouldn't be allowed anywhere closer to the field than behind Bum's compost pile.
This post might need to be translated into English.[/QUOTE]
translated version... Kubiak is a GOD who turned sh!t into gold. Wade is his disciple. Smith and McNair suck, but not as much as OB, who is the biggest joking dumba$$ ever and shouldn't be allowed anywhere closer to the field than behind Bum's compost pile.
Scooter
Funky
For the record I dont hate Kubiak. He's a good man who's an avg HC. That's alot better than Smith who is a bad person and below avg GM. BTW, I dont hate Smith either.
What gives you the impression that Smith is bad person? I haven't heard of him robbing anyone, beating anyone, etc.
I didn't care for the way he threw Kubiak under the bus to save his own job. Yes, I understand this is the way of the corporate world, but I dont have to like it.
With this type of individual running the Texans is it any wonder why the Texans have added such stellar FA's such as Rahim Moore or drafted poorly. It's hard to do your job when winning is your #1 priority. It's an impossible job when your #1 priority is CYA.
Moore was widely considered a great FA signing. I have no idea what happened to him, but he turned into a train wreck.
I'll have to go back and look at preseason stats and see how much he played. It might've been a lack of PS playing time to gain familiarity with RAC's D.
PapaL
Loose Screw
That's been a huge mystery this season. Wonder if he has a bad hip and we missed it.
PHILLYTEXANFAN
Saddle Up Partner
Doesnt wanna make a hit, thinks he's a ED Reed sit back and make an Int
PapaL
Loose Screw
That was the implied joke.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
Which is worse? Being the GM that drafted Rahim Moore, or being the GM that signed him as a FA?
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
The amount we signed him for isn't bad.
What's bad is that we let Glover Quin walk, a huge mistake on its own, and tried to sign Ed Reed to replace him. Quin was our "Star" safety. That is, he played safety in the slot when needed and also in the back when not in the slot. He was invaluable, and to replace him meant having a player that could either do both or to sign two players that could replace his production, given how verstile he was. Instead, as we all know, we signed Ed Reed, who immediately recognized the weakness in the organization and wanted out. Now, we've tried Moore out and he's been a disappointment.
So, in short, the disappointment and mistakes go back even further than this signing. It comes from never having made a good transaction at safety, to striking silver (not quite gold) with a 3rd round draft pick, having him develop nicely, then letting him walk, only to replace him with nothing. Think about the total amount we've spent trying to replace Glover Quin and imagine if we'd just given him the money. We would be so much better off.
It's one of the huge problems I have with Rick Smith. I feel like I am too often posting about his mistakes.
I and many others made our cases in 2013:
In the three years that Detroit has had Quin (since he left the Texans), he has played all 48 games and has 197 tackles, 14 interceptions, and 2 sacks.
As we all know, 2013 was the year that the Texans fell off and Wade's defense was viewed as ineffective due to his heavy use of man coverage. I was on the "too much man coverage" train, but alot of that had to do with not having a safety like Quin. He kept our defense together against the spread defenses. We've yet to find a guy that can even partially do that since Quin was allowed to walk.
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There will be no negativity when you speak ill of Smith around here. (Says Cak/JB/PapaL Marcus etc....) Even though facts like this seem to get in the way of their views on how the Texans have/are being run.
You just don't get it do you? No one objects to the negativity, especially when it's warranted. It's your blatant efforts to make every thread into a bash Smith thread. Every post you make in every thread is pretty much the same.
So McNair is really Jerruh Jones but on the down low.
PapaL
Loose Screw
It isn't even about that man. You're like the scorned ex-girlfriend. Constant bitching and complaining. Rick Smith Rick Smith Rick Smith. If you stayed complaining in the Rick Smith thread, that would be great. We could all just let you be. Let it go before you get an ulcer.
Hows your day?
It was good until Rick Smith.
What do you think happened to Mayans?
Rick Smith
It's tiring reading the same crap from you in every thread. But that's probably Rick Smith's fault too.
Texian
Hall of Fame
If not worse. The difference is McNair doesn't enjoy or seek the limelight like Jerah. McNair is not compelled to be the Master of Ceremonies in the Center Ring of the Three Ring Circus like Jerah. McNair prefers to do his damage from behind the curtain. They both are equally incompetent. The picture tells the true story.
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sandman
Brexit Advisor
I see an owner, GM and Head Coach all sitting together. Is this not what 31 other draft day war rooms look like? What is the true story I am seeing here? What are the sinister facts laid bare by this revealing and damning photo?
Texian
Hall of Fame
Blinded by the light..... or the Kool Aid
So what about that picture is telling what story? That McNair is in the war room on draft day? Is that so odd?
So enlighten us O' war room guru
sandman
Brexit Advisor
I presented an honest question. What is the true story being shown in that photo? What truth am I denying based on that photo? Enlighten me. No need to deflect.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Using your definition, this is a group of people sitting around a table;
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So the Texans have a bigger, more comfortable war room with more people taking part or observing?
PHILLYTEXANFAN
Saddle Up Partner
I see that Cal and Rick appear to have bigger chairs than anyone... and more space around Rick than McNair... lots around OB also
Texian
Hall of Fame
I see Bob McNair FRONT AND CENTER and everyone taking a backseat to Bob. Who do you think was the master mind of this layout and seating arrangements and what kind of message does it send?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
They are all within easy conversational speech of one another.
I guess they didn't get Texian's memo they had to sit asshole to elbow to function properly.
Looks right to me - HC and GM working next to each other, owners observing and available.
And yet neither of the owners has a computer like Smith and OB, nor do they appear to be doing anything other than observing... have you thought of the possibility that McNair being older maybe doesn't have the eyesight to sit in the back? Or maybe, just maybe, being the owner allows him to sit where he damn well pleases? Tell me how this shows that he's running the draft? Be logical and factual if you can
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Wait, this just in. There's incontrovertible proof that Steve Bisciotti has taken over the Ravens war room. He's the on the phone, and John Harbaugh is clearly unhappy about the direction things have taken in Raven Land. Not only that, the fact that Ozzie Newsome isn't even in the picture is a clear indication he's now being shut out of the process entirely.
And just to make it clear, if you're unable or unwilling to understand how there is no possible way conclusions drawn from the photo aren't the absolute truth, then you're just a knuckle dragging sheeple who's afraid of the truth.
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I guess this would be true if they wanted to be involved in every decision and discussion taking place
sandman
Brexit Advisor
So McNair is an inept owner because he isn't sitting elbow to elbow with Smith and OB around a folding table? Gotcha.
I think it's funny how we feel McNair is not qualified to influence the direction of his team, & at the same time insinuate that we are.
Who knows? We can only speculate based on historical results and very limited insight gleaned from a variety of sources.
I do feel confident that we can come to the conclusion that this front office does not know how to build a "championship caliber" team, meaning one that will consistently win 10-12 games for many consecutive seasons and be able to compete (and even dominate) other elite teams. Of course, most teams do not have that kind of front office, so I'm not picking specifically on the Texans.
I think we have more of a "lightning in a bottle" front office that can put together teams that go on streaks like 2011 and 2012 (and to some extent 2015). You hope the team peaks at the right time, the balls bounce the right way, and the stars align in order to get a chance to compete for a championship.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
See I think if we had a stable, solid QB situation 2011-2015 we'd have made the playoffs 4 of 5 years with 10+ wins in each and a 2013 bobble of 7-9 wins in a down year due to the Ed Reed fiasco.
Texian
Hall of Fame
I agree with your lightning in the bottle assessment and the elixir that stirs that drink is when the Colts starting QB is out for most of the season. Without that elixir there is no lightning.
I agree completely, but that goes back to a front office that does not truly comprehend how to build a championship caliber team. Now I'm holding them to high standards for comparison, and like I said, most NFL front offices would fail in that same comparison.
If you look at the historical great teams like Landry's Cowboys, or Shula's Dolphins, or Walsh's 49ers, or Belichick's Patriots (etc.), you see trends where they both service the present season but also strategically plan for the future. They would/will routinely cut players that are still productive and know how to evaluate and acquire talent to replace it. They have scouting departments that understand what traits they need to find for their coaches to coach up.
And these teams never wasted their time with aged players way past their primes. You see the occasional megadeal like Deion Sanders, but he was still the top CB in the game for that kind of FA acquisition. However, these teams would not sniff the likes of Ed Reed, Ahman Green, or even Vince Wilfork.
Most teams in the playoffs from year to year are "lightning in a bottle" teams. And these teams can win championships. I think the Giants with Eli is one of them. Same for the 2002 Buccaneers. They were never elite year in and year out, but were able to put together teams for one season that peaked at the right time and made it happen.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I get what you're saying. But even 1 player would have made a tremendous difference both in performance and perception - QB. They're bizarre on the position though. They have an eyes wide open blind spot.
I disagree here a little. Belichick (and Jimmy Johnson) has been a master at milking one or two last seasons from guys to plug holes. The difference I see is they'll pick up experienced role players instead of aged stars. Experienced smart players who will pick up things quickly and you aren't expecting to be more than solid. E.g. Ted
Washington.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
While it certainly didn't torpedo the team (they did make the Super Bowl), both Albert Haynesworth and Chad Johnson spent a very non-productive year (or in the case of Haynesworth, partial year) on the Patriots roster in 2011. Haynesworth spent some time with the Bucs after the Pats cut him (I think we're all painfully aware of that), but that was the final NFL season for both of them. Perhaps not the norm, but to definitively say elite teams would never do something along these lines isn't the case.
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Dont like what I'm saying I'm a negative hater. Whatever. Not blatant hater just stating facts and you dont like them. And no I dont try to make every thread into a Bash Smith thread. It's just impossible not to talk about Rick Smith's failures in the all encompassing Rick Smith thread. So you're right maybe I just dont get what this thread is about.
BTW, I've tried to limit my Rick Smith talk to this thread and the draft section. Which should be fair game since Smith is the freaking GM and should be held accountable for his role in the trio of crap that acquires new talent in both the draft and FA. The posters there dont seem to have the issues with my opinions that you do.
Instead why dont you put me on ignore since you view my statements the way you do. That seems like a good solution to YOUR issues with me.
Shocking this post would come from you.
Please put me on your ignore list I wouldn't want my thoughts about Rick Smithin the AE Rick Smith thread to cause you an ulcer.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
As has been repeatedly stated, it isn't what you say in this thread. It's interjecting it everywhere.
It's an add on to everything.
'We should go after Fleener. But Smith will screw it up.'
'Moore was a disappointment. Smith screwed that up.'
It's incessant.
The differnce is Johnson/Hayneswoth were signed to relatively cheap contracts compared to what Green/Reed etc... got. This is why the Texans stay in cap jail and the Pats dont. It looks like this may be changing under BOB.