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Tony Romo breaks collarbone, ending his season

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Nothing could be worse for the Cowboys than an injury to quarterback Tony Romo. Unfortunately, the worse just unfolded: Romo has a broken left collarbone after falling to the ground going for a loose ball, and Eagles linebacker Jordan Hicks crashing down on him.

Romo clinched his shoulder in agony before being helped off the field and taken to the locker room to have an X-ray to confirm the extent of the injury.



http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...arbone-shoulder-cowboys-eagles-brandon-weeden
 
Was watching that game when it happened. They are officially in trouble.

No dez, no romo and the question of whether or not it was the o-line or Murray I think has resoundingly been answered..their run game has been **** thus far with Randle and McFadden. That o-line isn't as good as they thought.
 
Mr teX said:
Was watching that game when it happened. They are officially in trouble.

No dez, no romo and the question of whether or not it was the o-line or Murray I think has resoundingly been answered..their run game has been **** thus far with Randle and McFadden. That o-line isn't as good as they thought.
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Randle 18 for 51 yards. McFadden 10 for 31 yards. Pretty bad. In the very same game: Demarco Murray: 13 for 2 yards. Definitely Murray is the real deal. Although if he had been behind the crappy Cowboys O Line he probably would have only gotten one yard per 13 carries.
 
They're saying he can be back in 8 weeks, worst case scenario 12. I guess it depends on what the Cowboys record is at that time.
 
Goddamn this sucks.

The best O-line in football, a very stout defense, and yes, even an elite kicker. Now, no QB.

Murray is hot garbage right now, but that might just be because the Eagles suck. Chip kept trying to get Murray "revenge" by letting him score in garbage time, but he got killed on the goal line.
 
teams are just keying on murray right now and kelly hasnt figured out how to use that to his offense's advantage yet. Murray's the real deal though.
 
McClain, Gregory, and Hardy will soon be back, and Sean Lee is a goddamn monster. Even Mo Claiborne has stopped being a bum. Defense is loaded.

Had a shot, even without Dez, not so much with Romo out.
 
I feel better than we have two division wins under our belt and will see how things evolve. Our defense should be even better week three from now, and if our O-line can help keep the offense together, we should be alright. At least I hope so.
 
StarStruck said:
I feel better than we have two division wins under our belt and will see how things evolve. Our defense should be even better week three from now, and if our O-line can help keep the offense together, we should be alright. At least I hope so.
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The Eagles look terrible. Their big budget acquisitions in Bradford, Murray, and Maxwell all look out of place. If they don't gel, the team will tailspin faster than it already is.

The Giants are awful, but always make a comeback.

The Skins QB situation is probably on-par with the Cowboys, and their talent is thin everywhere else.

As long as Chip Kelly keeps crapping the bed, the Cowboys should win the NFC East by default
 
paycheck71 said:
They're saying he can be back in 8 weeks, worst case scenario 12. I guess it depends on what the Cowboys record is at that time.
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They're saying he needs a CT scan. You don't typically call for one (in a simple isolated clavicular fracture) unless there is a comminuted (fragmented) or complicated break (or suspect potential vascular or pulmonary involvement). Surgery sounds like it could very well be in the cards. I would call return likely closer to the 12 week period, if any of the aforementioned is encountered.
 
Cowboys will place Romo on IR (Designated to return), so he will be out for a while but will be back at some point this season. That puts them in a bind with Dez though because you can only use that designation on one player per season so looks like they will just carry Dez for the 8-12 weeks he's supposed to miss.
 
As for the Eagles, Chip got a ton of negative pub for letting Maclin walk and trading McCoy, but his biggest mistake was getting rid of their OG's (Mathis and Herremans). The interior OL has been an absolute sieve the first 2 games. Every run play is blown up and Bradford has no pocket to step into because of the interior pressure.
 
Mr teX said:
teams are just keying on murray right now and kelly hasnt figured out how to use that to his offense's advantage yet. Murray's the real deal though.
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For the money they spent, I'm sure they are counting on him being thr real deal, especially after dumping proven playmakers.
 
WolverineFan said:
As for the Eagles, Chip got a ton of negative pub for letting Maclin walk and trading McCoy, but his biggest mistake was getting rid of their OG's (Mathis and Herremans). The interior OL has been an absolute sieve the first 2 games. Every run play is blown up and Bradford has no pocket to step into because of the interior pressure.
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Their line outside of Peters is a joke, as you said, letting their interior walk was a big mistake.

They put a bunch of money in Maxwell, who looks like trash in their system, which could backfire as well.

Murray is a good player, but he doesn't have gaping holes to run through like last year. The Cowboys rightly chose Dez over him, even with the injury.
 
(A dreadlocked figure dressed in black and wearing dark glasses approaches the podium solemnly) While I have dedicated a fair amount of my adult life lampooning, belittling, badgering and harassing both the team and fan base of the Dallas Cowboys. I would like to spent last week praying for the complete recovery of Desmond Bryant and while watching yesterday's game I was unfortunate enough to witness the injury to Tony Romo. While I will never cheer for a Cowboy victory, I am praying for both of your fallen gladiators to heal and eventually return to the game. Thank you.

(figured fades into shadows)
 
TexasCowboy said:
The rehab time for this injury is 4-8 weeks I doubt he'll need surgery
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No surgery only indicates that there is non-displacement of the bone fragments...........still the CT scan indicates multiple fractures. The only reason he might come back by 8 weeks is because it's on the side of his nonthrowing arm. However, he can be affected in play for a longer period of time, taking the ball from center, stabilizing the ball with two hands, handing off. The fracture lines may not be totally healed by that time and a 300 pound lineman taking him down again could have him starting over from scratch.
 
Then if it takes 8 weeks to fully heal?? then so be it 8 weeks it is, I'd rather
he be back at 100% with full mobility in his arm. Than 65%...till then Weeden
is the guy they will have to rely on till Romo can comeback
 
Boy, the Cowboys have really been snake bitten. During this last game, Witten sustained sprains of both of his ankles and one of his knees. As a tribute to his toughness, he went on to finish the game. But there is no doubt that this is likely to affect him for a long time, and be high risk for re-injury for an even longer period.
 
Brandon Weeden will play well. The Cowboys have the best offensive line in the game. They'll be alright without their best playmakers. They can still grind out wins with their offensive line and good defense. It's not like their division is all that great and 2-0 is still 2-0 the last time I checked.
 
I suspect that the Cowboys will cope just fine. I believe that while Romo can do everything an elite QB can do, he also holds that team back by contriving to pull defeat from the jaws of victory on too many occasions. The impressive o-line and defensive units will still operate well, allowing the back up QB to be successful.
 
WolverineFan said:
Dez, Romo, and Witten all beat up and they're still 2-0. Must be nice.
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I wouldn't know, I mean reality wise they are 2-0..technically they should be 0-2 and staring down
the barrel of a load gun right now..but they are what they are!!! my concern is how they cope now
without the "keys" to making it go on the field? In the past they have folded early like lawn chairs
I can only hope they don't lose momentum and can hold on till they all get back
 
Romo placed on IR designated to return. Interesting, Dez may not make it back any time sooner than Romo does. In fact, it wouldn't be surprising for either of them to fail return at 8 weeks.

Now, besides Witten being stricken with injuries, Terrell McClain now is out for the season with a badly sprained big toe (turf toes) that will require surgery.
 
All this means to me is I'll be having to start Joe Flacco for the next eight weeks or so. Guess I should be looking into that waiver wire, maybe Mallett is available???
 
I was wondering why Romo was having another CT scan. It is evidently to check the collar bone's ability to accept a plate repair to try to avoid another fracture. Romo has actually suffered not only 2 left clavicular fractures this past season, but also 3rd in 2010 (he also suffered one as a teen on his right side). When it was reported that his 1st 2015 fracture was multiple pieces (comminuted), I was very surprised that a nonsurgical approach was taken. Even though it is on his nonthrowing side, QBs commonly are taken to ground on both their right and their left shoulders.......and throwing with your right arm still creates motion and stress to the left clavicle.

There is an October 2010 study published in The American Journal of Sports Medicine that showed a comparison of surgical fixation vs. nonsurgical treatment of these fractures. The reviewed all of the midshaft clavicle fractures suffered in the NFL over a five-year period. Of the 19 fractures suffered, 6 were nondisplaced. These fractures were treated without surgery and healed in just over seven weeks. The other 13 were displaced at least 100%. 6 of these 13 were fixed with surgery, either with a plate and screws or a pin down the center of the bone. All of the ones fixed surgically healed at an average of 8.8 weeks. Of the 7 displaced fractures treated without surgery, 3 of the 7 healed without a problem at approximately 13 weeks after the injury, but 4 of the 7 refractured it within the first year of the injury.

The tendency now for NFL players is to secure clavicle fractures surgically. No doubt this will more reliably repair the fractures. The main down side of placing a plate is the long term potential of the bone fracturing where the plate ends (either side) since the natural flexibility of the bone is removed............... and rather than stresses being distributed evenly throughout the length of the clavicle, all movement stresses are thus concentrated at the point where the plate borders end.........potentially leading to the same type of fracture that occurred when Gronk suffered a fracture of his plated arm right where his plate ended.

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CND, doing the dirty in the offseason... well, offseason for us.

Thanks man, keep it up.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I was wondering why Romo was having another CT scan. It is evidently to check the collar bone's ability to accept a plate repair to try to avoid another fracture. Romo has actually suffered not only 2 left clavicular fractures this past season, but also 3rd in 2010 (he also suffered one as a teen on his right side). When it was reported that his 1st 2015 fracture was multiple pieces (comminuted), I was very surprised that a nonsurgical approach was taken. Even though it is on his nonthrowing side, QBs commonly are taken to ground on both their right and their left shoulders.......and throwing with your right arm still creates motion and stress to the left clavicle.

There is an October 2010 study published in The American Journal of Sports Medicine that showed a comparison of surgical fixation vs. nonsurgical treatment of these fractures. The reviewed all of the midshaft clavicle fractures suffered in the NFL over a five-year period. Of the 19 fractures suffered, 6 were nondisplaced. These fractures were treated without surgery and healed in just over seven weeks. The other 13 were displaced at least 100%. 6 of these 13 were fixed with surgery, either with a plate and screws or a pin down the center of the bone. All of the ones fixed surgically healed at an average of 8.8 weeks. Of the 7 displaced fractures treated without surgery, 3 of the 7 healed without a problem at approximately 13 weeks after the injury, but 4 of the 7 refractured it within the first year of the injury.

The tendency now for NFL players is to secure clavicle fractures surgically. No doubt this will more reliably repair the fractures. The main down side of placing a plate is the long term potential of the bone fracturing where the plate ends (either side) since the natural flexibility of the bone is removed............... and rather than stresses being distributed evenly throughout the length of the clavicle, all movement stresses are thus concentrated at the point where the plate borders end.........potentially leading to the same type of fracture that occurred when Gronk suffered a fracture of his plated arm right where his plate ended.

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Couldn't that risk of breakage at the ends of the plate be significantly reduced if the plate were approximately equal in flexibility to the bone or even graduated to less than the bone towards the ends? Metal like a car suspension or some type of plastic with varying depth and/or density?

Just wondering.
 
Marshall said:
Couldn't that risk of breakage at the ends of the plate be significantly reduced if the plate were approximately equal in flexibility to the bone or even graduated to less than the bone towards the ends? Metal like a car suspension or some type of plastic with varying depth and/or density?

Just wondering.
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Flexible external plates cannot be fashioned such that they can flex in such a manner that there is full choreography of movements with the bone such that the screws will not be torqued or pulled out of position.

A minimally invasive technique has been used to thread a flexible titanium rod through the marrow of the clavicle to align and stabilize the fracture(s). Sometimes they are left in place and they are usually removed after healing (plates seldom are). However, rod breakage has been reported. And re-fracture of the clavicle has been reported without rod breakage. The increased risk of re-fracture in the long-term is not any less after removal of the rod than the re-fracture risk after nonsurgical treatment.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Flexible external plates cannot be fashioned such that they can flex in such a manner that there is full choreography of movements with the bone such that the screws will not be torqued or pulled out of position.

A minimally invasive technique has been used to thread a flexible titanium rod through the marrow of the clavicle to align and stabilize the fracture(s). Sometimes they are left in place and they are usually removed after healing (plates seldom are). However, rod breakage has been reported. And re-fracture of the clavicle has been reported without rod breakage. The increased risk of re-fracture in the long-term is not any less after removal of the rod than the re-fracture risk after nonsurgical treatment.
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Thanks. That is the type of Bio-engineering I love to hear more about. Finding ways to produce a better plate and better methods of attachment to reduce failure rates.

This is the type of news I'd be interested in rather than who was seen with who. Is there a web site doctors go to to find out the latest and greatest in new product development?
 
Marshall said:
Thanks. That is the type of Bio-engineering I love to hear more about. Finding ways to produce a better plate and better methods of attachment to reduce failure rates.

This is the type of news I'd be interested in rather than who was seen with who. Is there a web site doctors go to to find out the latest and greatest in new product development?
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Not one that I'm aware of. Besides my own experience, I've always done extensive reading in all specialties. Amazing to find out what is out there when you have an opportunity to cumulatively put it altogether.

The problem with lay people finding "innovative" products and methods is that many when studied and tested by others, success rates cannot be replicated. Those well familiar with and staying up with the related literature know to turn their attention away from these questionable or failed presentations. However, they stay on the internet forever for those not truly knowledgeable with the subject (including many physicians) remain impressed, even years after publication. Unfortunately, there is no Medical Journal of Retractions to deter their enthusiasm.
 
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