Dunta_23 said:
The more I think about it the more I am for trading down with the Jets for their 1st & 2nd this yr, and a 1st next.
#4- D'Brick(Virginia)- Franchise LT for years to come, only way to evaluate the QB is to keep him upright and this will help.
#33- Leonard Pope(Georgia)- Big Target at TE that weve always wanted, if Joppru returns its a positive thing.
#36(Jets)- Bobby Carpenter(Ohio State)- Solid LB that played beside a star, is overlooked and will help immediately
#65- Jeremy Trueblood(BC)- A quality player that can be worked in at RT and be groomed until Wade is gone.
#66- Cedric Griffin(Texas)- A player that will help the secondary, wether he starts or plays nickle
#97- Sinorice Moss(Miami)- Santana's younger brother and showed it at the Senior Bowl. IF he is there at 97, any team is crazy not to take him...
#129- Rocky McIntosh(Miami)- Solid LB, can come is as quality depth
# 161- Maurice Stovall(ND)- Can never have enough playmakers, and with Bradford going and possibly Gaffney and Armstrong, Depth could be used.
#193- Toss up between Frostee Rucker(USC) and Dwayne Slay(TT)...Undecided here because I think our young safteys can be pretty good, and we will have a need at DE
I would still rather get Eric Winston later in the draft and either trade down to grab Mario or draft Reggie.
I don't like taking a TE at #33, DE will be a big need for us when we switch to a 4-3 and we can get a capable TE in the 3rd round.
Carpenter would be a decent pick here, but again DE is a bigger need so if we don't get one at #4 or #33 then we should look for one here.
Jeremy Trueblood would be a horrible pick. He's a Todd Wade clone, tall, fairly lean, and very stiff and a bad pass blocker while only a decent run blocker, plus if we get Ferguson for LT then Pitts should move over to RT.
Cedric Griffin would be a nice pickup here too.
No way Sinorice Moss lasts until the 3rd round, but if he does that would be a steal for us.
Rocky McIntosh should be a good addition and will likely be here then, but we don't really need two LBs in the draft since we're switching to a 4-3 and we have Greenwood and Wong that are decent players and locked in with big contracts.
I don't think Stovall will last until the 6th round, but if he does he would be a nice pickup, but again we don't need two WRs in the draft.
Your mock isn't bad other than the Trueblood pick would not be good, and you don't have us getting a DE or interior OLineman anywhere.
Mightymike said:
best mock yet
rd1 trade to jets for #4 pick, 2nd round pick, 1st next year
we take mario williams at #4 DE-the FREAK 295lb. w/ a 4.6 40. upgrades our defense greatly through passrush
rd2 mercedes lewis TE- best TE available, big need
rd2 (from jets) johnathan scott OT- great OL could come in and start
rd3 alan zematis CB- back-up plan for pbuc, big physical corner
rd3 Duece Lutui OG- opened up the holes for lendale white and reggie bush. 365lb.
rd4 thomas howard OLB- very very fast.
rd5 anthony schlegel ILB- gets lost in aj hawk's shadow, but is a great lb
rd6 rashad butler OT- undersized quick tackle
rd7 dwayne slay S- hard hitting safety, compete with earl and brown to take coleman spot at S
Mario Williams would be a great pick, and is probably my top choice for us to do in the draft.
As with the above mock, I don't like taking a TE at #33 as I think we have bigger needs and a good one will be available in the 3rd.
Jonathan Scott would be an ok pick, but I'm hoping Eric Winston will be available as some mocks have, and if he is we definitely should get him.
Alan Zemaitis would be a nice pick if he's available here.
Lutui is not a good pick for us. For one, he's only 6'3.5" and 338 lbs. not 365, but still with a run blocking scheme we need smaller, more athletic OGs and he and Jean-Gilles do not fit this mold at all.
Thomas Howard would be a nice pickup.
Schlegel would be a decent pickup, but I don't think he'll last this far, plus we don't need two LBs in this draft, although MLB is the one LB position that we actually need.
I'm not sure what the point of drafting Butler would be, but ok.
Dwayne Slay would be a decent S, but I don't think he'll last until the 7th, plus if we're going to get a S we need a coverage one more than a hard-hitting one.
Other than Lutui who doesn't fit our team well, this mock is pretty good.
Mightymike said:
by the way williams benched 225lb. 31 times, and had 13 sacks this year
named preseason Defensive Player of the Year by Blue Ribbon College Football
comparisons.....
julius peppers
jevon kearse (back in the day)
Mario Williams should be a beast, especially if he ends up running in the 4.6 range. Peppers would be a decent comparison, although Peppers is more athletic than Mario, but I wouldn't compare him to Jevon Kearse, as he was much smaller and faster than Mario.
Tried not to look at the other posts...here goes
R1#1: Reggie Bush RB USC
R2#33: Max Jean-Gilles OG Georgia
R3#65: Joel Klopfenstien TE Colorado
R3#66: Cedric Griffen CB Texas
R4#97: Sinonice Moss WR Miami
R5#129: Fred Matua OG Southern California
R6#161: Tommy Jackson DT Auburn
R7#193: Dwyane Slay FS Texas Tech
I still prefer trading down, but Bush at #1 is the next best choice for us.
Jean-Gilles is not a good pick, he and Lutui are huge OGs and for zone blocking you want smaller, more athletic OGs, so neither of them fit our system well, plus both are so big that they should be good run blockers but not very good pass blockers, and that's what we're needing to improve. Both Lutui and Jean-Gilles should both be monster run blockers elsewhere.
Klopfenstein would be ok.
Cedric Griffin would be nice.
Moss won't last until the 3rd round, but again he'd be a great addition there.
I don't see the reason for drafting another DT, we have plenty of them.
As for Dwayne Slay, see my comment on him in the other mock.
Not a bad mock but not great, you don't have us getting an OT anywhere which should be a must and you have us getting two OGs, one of which doesn't fit our team, you don't have us getting a DE which should also be a must and have us drafting another DT, which is probably our deepest position.
