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Your avatar is a billboard around town. I saw it and Sienna Plantation must have cut off the rest off the sign saying, "I can't pass on a cover-two either."Napa Auto Parts said:classic david carr is even in on this one.
Observe the first three picks of last years draft. See if QB or RB's contributed more.mexico2014 said:Bush is not going to be as good as people say hes just going to be an average back, Landel White is better that him. VY has proven himself time and time again and hes like the next mike vick but with a good arm.
Please do not compare Young to Vick. If you are going to make comparisons at least use someone he comapres to such as Steve McNair.mexico2014 said:Bush is not going to be as good as people say hes just going to be an average back, Landel White is better that him. VY has proven himself time and time again and hes like the next mike vick but with a good arm.
How do any of you know what to compare VY to? Are any of you NFL scouts? The fact that ANYone is suggesting the Texans take VY, just ruins their whole perspective on what the Texans need!If you are going to make comparisons at least use someone he comapres to such as Steve McNair
Those qualities showed bright behind a HUGH offensive Line. Try getting behind New Orleans or Titans line and see how much is left.:brickwall He will need to learn, not teach.mexico2014 said:i agree with u leinard does have a very good arm and is a VERY but vince young has intagebles. VY has heart, leadership skills and comand presence. and wait to c how bush does hes gonna be like chris perry.
Grid said:I think we need to draft Reggie Bush just to trim some fat from the fanbase.
Proven himself WHERE? Oh that's right, in college against athletes that don't have his skills. In the NFL everyone has his skills, thus PARITY. Well ya got the Mike Vick part right anyway...gj! And Grid is a personal friend of mine, he'd support the team irregardless who they picked, unlike you bandwagon tsippin boys. Have a nice life as a Saints fanmexico2014 said:Bush is not going to be as good as people say hes just going to be an average back, Landel White is better that him. VY has proven himself time and time again and hes like the next mike vick but with a good arm.
OK, now you have lost credibility. Akili Smith was/is not a mobile QB. His college stats were no where near VY's. He was more like a Byron Leftwich type of guy. The only thing VY and Akili Smith have in common is their race and position on the field.MikeMc said:Yes, I will compare VY to an NFL QB...... Akili Smith!!! Remember him?? All hype and did NOTHING in the NFL.....VY will be the same! He has horrible passing skills and does not know how to read a defense.
This reminds me of most of your posts.MikeMc said:All hype and did NOTHING
Comparing Young to McNair is just as silly as comparing Young to Vick. I've never seen Young throw the ball as hard and as accurate as McNair can.awtysst said:Please do not compare Young to Vick. If you are going to make comparisons at least use someone he comapres to such as Steve McNair.
Technically he was 3rd in passer rating.So VY has no passing skills and can't read defenses? He FREAKING led the nation in passing efficiency. If he was able to pull that off by having no passing skills and not able to read defenses, geez, he is better than I thought. Did you happen to see that TD strike he thew against Ohio State in the clutch to pull that game out of his a**?
HUH?Hookem Horns said:OK, now you have lost credibility. Akili Smith was/is not a mobile QB. His college stats were no where near VY's. He was more like a Byron Leftwich type of guy. The only thing VY and Akili Smith have in common is their race and position on the field.
He led the nation during the non-bowl season. I don't think every poster has to clarify this everytime the stat is brought up. When we compare most NFL players; we don't usually add regular season and post season together.JackDizzle said:Technically he was 3rd in passer rating.
UMM, I'm not sure how you can come to all of those conclusions without seeing anyone. Opinions are great but I hope both kids do well and I am sure they will.Grid said:no Young is going to be an average QB, Lienart is better than him. And Bush has proven himself time and again and is like Tiki Barber with more speed and better hands.
Any other pointless arguements we can solve with conjecture and supposition?
thats so true. its just that wat do we need bush for we already got davis and hes good. but can also say wat do we need young for if we already got carr but carr hasnt really proven himself yet. ive seen him throw really good passes and but not consistent enough. theres probably not going to be another VY that can run and throw for a while and the texans have the chance of drafting him. im a huge texans fan and i think they should draft him.MorKnolle said:Both players are awesome college players, both have a very bright NFL future barring any big-time injuries, and both have only "proved" themselves against college players. Neither one is a clear-cut better player, both have some amazing physical gifts and both have some serious concerns about how their skills/body translate into the NFL. The Texans will draft who they think will be the best for their team, so we'll have to wait to see what they do and then give them a couple years and see what each has proven in the NFL, and hopefully along the way one of them will help turn this team around in the process or else lead to a slew of draft picks/other players that help rejuvenate this team.
Agreed. Peyton looked like Carr in the playoff game with his own OL. What would he look like behind ours? 5 sacks in one game after being sacked 17 times during the entire regular season. He looked much more AVERAGE when he could not be protected.MikeMc said:Peyton Manning would look more like Eli if he had the Texans OL. THAT is where the problem lies.
What scouts? Could you provide some sources, maybe? Weird how a great Rose Bowl performance and a couple of the ESPN crowd extrapolates to "everyone and their mother in the league 'knowing' that no one is not and has never been like Vince." If you are going to reinforce your opinions with this kind of thing, you might provide a source or two.Hookem Horns said:OK, now you have lost credibility. Akili Smith was/is not a mobile QB. His college stats were no where near VY's. He was more like a Byron Leftwich type of guy. The only thing VY and Akili Smith have in common is their race and position on the field.
So VY has no passing skills and can't read defenses? He FREAKING led the nation in passing efficiency. If he was able to pull that off by having no passing skills and not able to read defenses, geez, he is better than I thought. Did you happen to see that TD strike he thew against Ohio State in the clutch to pull that game out of his a**?
If you want to see the definition of not being able to read defenses, look up the name David Carr.
BTW, I don't think you can compare anyone to Vince Young, as many NFL scouts have said because there has been no one like him.
HoustonFrog said:UMM, I'm not sure how you can come to all of those conclusions without seeing anyone. Opinions are great but I hope both kids do well and I am sure they will.
Rich Lord ...jerek said:What scouts? .
OMG !!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jerek
What scouts? .
Rich Lord ...
Sure, draft Vick. Should we pick up Maurice Clarett too? How about TO?HOOK'EM said:Why draft VY when we could get VICK in the 4th? DRAFT BUSH!
Spoda said:i posted this before ..i just can't stand the vincesanity...........vince is a sure thing...haven't you all read all the threads? he's from houston for god's sake...and he wants to play here....he won't be a hall of famer because after his 30 year career it will be called the vince of fame..he will be a vince of famer....vince drops back...offensive line crumble....eludes everyone...lets it fly from his own 1....he's got a man...it's vince!!! wide open at the opponents 1!!! TD vince to vince!!!...man that is gonna be sweet
we don't need vince!!!!!!!!!
Is this a joke or are you serious?stucknut said:i am all for the carr for williams trade.
let's get all the horns back, except for simms.
i'm still pissed about not drafting derrick johnson last year.
Texans are rebuilding no matter who they draft. I like their chances with VY.HOOK'EM said:I couldnt agree with you more GRID!
Kubiak + Bush = Playoffs06!