txhoosier:
whoah, man, please take a deep breath and calm down. Again you're getting a bit too emotional and speaking out of your assumption. But that's you're prerogative, and I've got no problem with agreeing to disagree at the end of the day.
However, please allow me to respectfully respond to your points (I am in no way flaming you or trying to argue. It is an
enlightenment process for both of us):
txhoosier said:
No. I am not denying that fact. Let me ask you this...if your company is in the news, and you are walking from your desk to your car, and a reporter walks up to you and puts a mic in your face...DO YOU NOT BECOME A SPOKESMAN FOR YOUR COMPANY AT THAT POINT? Just because Joey Porter isn't the OFFICIAL spokesman for the team means nothing. If that reporter asks you a question, and you say something that embarrasses your company, do you think you will not get fired because you aren't the official spokesperson?
You said earlier, "Similar to an executive who would represent a company in front of the media".
But this is completely crazy. This is not an executive for the Steelers and/or the NFL and/or the city of Pittsburgh. He is an
employee of the company, not an executive. This is like saying that the guy behind the counter at your local gas station speaks for the company of Exxon. You have a knack for hyperbole, but it's only reality in your own mind.
txhoosier said:
Joey Porter DOES represent the city of Pittsburgh, whether you agree with it or not. If you were introduced to someone today, here in Houston, and he were to tell you he was from Pittsburgh, would your first thought not be to ask him about the Steelers? Perhaps even what he thought about Joey Porter's comments? I am doing no such thing...If I am working as a representative of my company (since he was talking about the game, then this is a true scenario), then I am held to a higher standard than if I were cutting my grass. I am expected to behave in a certain manner while I am wearing my company logo. Joey Porter should follow the same protocol.
Porter represents the city of Pittsburgh in your chosen perspective. But to the rest of us, he represents an entire city no more than David Carr represents all of us in Houston. You assign the worth of his representation.
Porter is a player, and a human like the rest of us. He did not, and does not, speak on behalf of the team, the NFL, or the city of Pittsburgh. If he did, wouldn't all these entities be rushing to defend his statements?
BTW, I don't necessarily agree with what he said, especially regarding conspiracies. However, I'm not the one making a mountain out of a molehill, and you appear to have a personal vendetta about it. *cough*sourgrapes?*cough*
(j/k, btw)
txhoosier said:
People LIKE me? So now you know all about me, right? You are an internet shrink now, right? You are all knowing about me, because you are incapable of seeing any other opinion but your own. I don't expect entertainers to be role models for my kids, but I'm not STUPID enough to think that my kids aren't going to emulate people they see on TV.
Actually, I claim to know nothing about you (actually, I did not claim anything. Yet another assumption on your part). I can deduct that you're a Colts fan, and an emotional person that likes to blow things out of proportion, and you seem to want to make athletes more important in life than they really are in reality.
But other than those things that I've read in this post, you're just another anonymous perp on an internet forum. No offense.
However, you have decided to make Porter a spokesman for an entire city, not me. Deductive reasoning indicates that you place a higher value on entertainers in our society than I do. That's all I was trying to say. I sincerely regret that my attempt at a point was lost in your rush to judgement.
txhoosier said:
Quite frankly, I don't appreciate the personal attack. You don't know any more about my parental skills than you do about what size shoes I wear, but yet here you are judging me, and then jumping on me for judging someone else.
My apologies that you've decided to take anything I've said as a personal attack. My thoughts were never meant to incite anger, or even a defensive posture by you. And I never said anything about your parenting skills. Assumption no. 42 on your part.
Honestly, you would know if I was personally attacking you. And this is not one of those times. Matter-of-fact, I don't play those internet games which seem to come so naturally to other folks. I'm just here to have a good time and make some friends that share my passion for the entertainment medium of football.
I was only commenting on the perspective you seem to represent by your own words, which is one where entertainers are given more importance than they deserve. I meant no disrespect, and I truly regret any miscommunication or misperception that I was attacking you in any way.
txhoosier said:
...and I'm sorry if the "the guy makes millions" comment seems to be so far off base...but if the waterboy said the same thing...he would be ignored. Period.
Well that is your opinion, and I defend your right to have it.
But we'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree.
txhoosier said:
I'm done with this...because we are going to go nowhere with this argument, and the back and forth garbage is just cluttering up this board, and I'm just not about that mess. It's pointless to argue, because we are taking 2 different points, and arguing them as if they are the same thing.
Debate, argue, it's all a matter of perspective. I was merely commenting on the situation, and you quoted me first. This indicated that you were cool with discussing the matter with a little more depth, but perhaps I was wrong. Sorry about that, won't happen again.
txhoosier said:
You might want to check into some anger management courses. Nothing said in an internet forum should ever make you angry. And nothing I've said was ever meant to create any kind of emotional response, either.
Take care, it's been nice chatting with you.
Honestly, I meant absolutely no disrespect and was not trying to call out your parenting skills (nor did I desire to attack your character, so please understand my intentions). As can be the case, words exchanged on the internet can often be misconstrued, which would not be the case if we were talking over a cup of coffee. Perhaps my attempt to "enlighten" (heh-heh) was unsuccessful, but I feel I understand your pov nonetheless now.
