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Doppelmock 2016 Brew V1.0

We all deal with losses differently. Doppelganger makes dopplemocks. I know its too early, but why not? Yes, its only 1 game in, but it is never too early for a mock. Also, I have forgotten and am too lazy to look up if the Texans have late round picks or if they were traded away.

1. Jared Goff, QB, California, 6’4, 210lbs, 4.69
Hoyer or Mallett. Neither probably is the guy. Savage looks like a quality backup to me. Time to get the QB that QB Guru Bill O’ Brien needs. The 26-27-60 rule ( I believe) was voiced by former Chronicle Writer John Lopez. He postulated that if a player received a 26 on the Wunderlich, 27 starts(2 years plus), and 60% passer completion rating he had a better than average chance of developing into a good NFL quarterback. Obviously it has its flaws and there are outliers, but on the surface it makes sense. According to this rule, here are the QBs who will likely qualify: Goff, Kessler, Hogan, and Golson. Personally I like Goff. Had a 60.4% passer rating in 2013 and a 62.1% in 2014. TD: INt ratio went from 18:10 to 35:7. Has good size an ideal pocket passer with a good arm. Can move around. I think he is the right QB for the bOb system.

2. Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State, 6’2, 215lbs, 4.60
I was very impressed with Miller at the WR position. He showed he has true playmaking ability at that position. He carried the ball 6 times for 62 yards, and caught two passes for 78 yards. While this may not seem like much, he is going to become a much bigger part of the game plan by week. His athleticism, hands, and ability to get separation reminds me of a bigger version of a Hines Ward.

3. Kenyan Drake, RB, Alabama, 6’1, 211lbs, 4.54
It would be awful nice to be able to run the ball with some effectiveness. Without Foster, the Texans have virtually no running game. In the preseason, the 49ers stonewalled the Texans on the goal line. On a 4th and 1, the Texans lost yardage on the ground. Drake can solve that problem.

4. Kevin Byard, S, Middle Tennessee, 5’11, 207, 4.59 While the Texans have a solid group of corners, the safety position leaves much to be desired. Enter small school gem Byard. He has recorded 4,5, and 6 ints the past three seasons with 4 returned for a touchdown. He is the kind of guy who always seems to be in the vicinity of the football.

5. Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado, 6’3, 325lbs, 5.00
A young rotational NT who can learn to play the position from one of the best in Wilfork.

6. Tyler Marz, OL, Wisconsin, 6’5, 321lbs, 5.40
You can never have enough good OL and Wisconsin has become an OL factory. Wisconsin OL tend to have excellent technique and work hard. Needs to improve his pass protection but would be a great addition at OG or RT.


7. Barry Sanders, RB, Stanford, 5’10, 198lbs, 4.55

Man. The steal of the century. Possibly one of the greatest running backs of all time and to get him here in the 7th. Wait, didn’t Barry go to Oklahoma State and get drafted in 1989?! Oh crap, this is his son. Oh well, maybe he can return punts and kickoffs. All kidding aside, THIS Barry Sanders is a solid player and would be a good change of pace back to compliment Drake.

 
We all deal with losses differently. Doppelganger makes dopplemocks. I know its too early, but why not? Yes, its only 1 game in, but it is never too early for a mock. Also, I have forgotten and am too lazy to look up if the Texans have late round picks or if they were traded away.

1. Jared Goff, QB, California, 6’4, 210lbs, 4.69
Hoyer or Mallett. Neither probably is the guy. Savage looks like a quality backup to me. Time to get the QB that QB Guru Bill O’ Brien needs. The 26-27-60 rule ( I believe) was voiced by former Chronicle Writer John Lopez. He postulated that if a player received a 26 on the Wunderlich, 27 starts(2 years plus), and 60% passer completion rating he had a better than average chance of developing into a good NFL quarterback. Obviously it has its flaws and there are outliers, but on the surface it makes sense. According to this rule, here are the QBs who will likely qualify: Goff, Kessler, Hogan, and Golson. Personally I like Goff. Had a 60.4% passer rating in 2013 and a 62.1% in 2014. TD: INt ratio went from 18:10 to 35:7. Has good size an ideal pocket passer with a good arm. Can move around. I think he is the right QB for the bOb system.

2. Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State, 6’2, 215lbs, 4.60
I was very impressed with Miller at the WR position. He showed he has true playmaking ability at that position. He carried the ball 6 times for 62 yards, and caught two passes for 78 yards. While this may not seem like much, he is going to become a much bigger part of the game plan by week. His athleticism, hands, and ability to get separation reminds me of a bigger version of a Hines Ward.

3. Kenyan Drake, RB, Alabama, 6’1, 211lbs, 4.54
It would be awful nice to be able to run the ball with some effectiveness. Without Foster, the Texans have virtually no running game. In the preseason, the 49ers stonewalled the Texans on the goal line. On a 4th and 1, the Texans lost yardage on the ground. Drake can solve that problem.

4. Kevin Byard, S, Middle Tennessee, 5’11, 207, 4.59 While the Texans have a solid group of corners, the safety position leaves much to be desired. Enter small school gem Byard. He has recorded 4,5, and 6 ints the past three seasons with 4 returned for a touchdown. He is the kind of guy who always seems to be in the vicinity of the football.

5. Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado, 6’3, 325lbs, 5.00
A young rotational NT who can learn to play the position from one of the best in Wilfork.

6. Tyler Marz, OL, Wisconsin, 6’5, 321lbs, 5.40
You can never have enough good OL and Wisconsin has become an OL factory. Wisconsin OL tend to have excellent technique and work hard. Needs to improve his pass protection but would be a great addition at OG or RT.


7. Barry Sanders, RB, Stanford, 5’10, 198lbs, 4.55

Man. The steal of the century. Possibly one of the greatest running backs of all time and to get him here in the 7th. Wait, didn’t Barry go to Oklahoma State and get drafted in 1989?! Oh crap, this is his son. Oh well, maybe he can return punts and kickoffs. All kidding aside, THIS Barry Sanders is a solid player and would be a good change of pace back to compliment Drake.

Nice ... Barry has a kid old enough to get drafted , makes me feel old . On a nuts and bolts level I like it but Goff may be a top 10 pick and I would like a TE .
 
Nice ... Barry has a kid old enough to get drafted , makes me feel old . On a nuts and bolts level I like it but Goff may be a top 10 pick and I would like a TE .

I took the draft following the year and determined how many wins the team having the 10th overall pick had. Here are the results:

2014: 6
2013: 7
2012: 6
2011: 6
2010:6
2009: 7
2008: 7
2007: 7
2006: 7
2005: 5
2004:6
2003:5
2002: 7

Average wins for team with the #10 pick=6.31

I.e. typically a team will win 6 games or less and will be in the top 10. The Texans have a tough schedule. With the way they played today, it would not surprise me to see them with a 5 or 6 win season putting them in play for Mr. Goff.
 
I took the draft following the year and determined how many wins the team having the 10th overall pick had. Here are the results:

2014: 6
2013: 7
2012: 6
2011: 6
2010:6
2009: 7
2008: 7
2007: 7
2006: 7
2005: 5
2004:6
2003:5
2002: 7

Average wins for team with the #10 pick=6.31

I.e. typically a team will win 6 games or less and will be in the top 10. The Texans have a tough schedule. With the way they played today, it would not surprise me to see them with a 5 or 6 win season putting them in play for Mr. Goff.

That's true .
 
It's still wayyy early but I really see it with Goff. I think come draft time he'll be the best QB prospect that's come out since OB got here. My top three over the last two years was Bortles, Bridgewater, Mariota, in that order. I think he'll be better than all three.
 
I think Goff will definitely be the guy this year. Unfortunately, I think he will be gone top 5 while Cook and Hackenberg both drop.
 
It's still wayyy early but I really see it with Goff. I think come draft time he'll be the best QB prospect that's come out since OB got here. My top three over the last two years was Bortles, Bridgewater, Mariota, in that order. I think he'll be better than all three.

I think Goff will definitely be the guy this year. Unfortunately, I think he will be gone top 5 while Cook and Hackenberg both drop.


I am a big fan of Goff. The one big issue for Goff will be the same one that plagued Bridgewater: size. At 6'4 210lbs, scouts will pick him apart and compare him to the lean Bridgewater (6'2 214) and opine if he will be able to survive the pounding of the NFL schedule. They will rip him, just like they ripped Bridgewater. In contrast big boy OSU QB Cardele Jones (6'5 250lbs) will be considered the second coming of Cam Newton and will go #1 overall. I could see question marks about Goff's size result in him dropping into the teens or later.
 
I like the mock, and really appreciated the overall emphasis on Offense though I'd like to see an O-lineman (OT/OG tweener) selected in either the 2nd or 3rd rounds. Nice job.
 
Yes we all deal with losing differently & year after year I've followed a similar plan so I applaud your continued efforts, turning your cheek & saying thank you sir may I have another :bat:

But alas said BL the Raven, never more as long as we continue to have another :clown: with boilermaker football acume, puppeteering his craft, in the name of McNair, duping coaching staff after coaching staff into believing he knows exactly what a draft grade is & how to analyze/project College to NFL prospects forward (had to edit some juice). Would take a Dopplemock anyday of the week over what's being served down under Kirby St. Bunker :koolaid:
 
I am a big fan of Goff. The one big issue for Goff will be the same one that plagued Bridgewater: size. At 6'4 210lbs, scouts will pick him apart and compare him to the lean Bridgewater (6'2 214) and opine if he will be able to survive the pounding of the NFL schedule. They will rip him, just like they ripped Bridgewater. In contrast big boy OSU QB Cardele Jones (6'5 250lbs) will be considered the second coming of Cam Newton and will go #1 overall. I could see question marks about Goff's size result in him dropping into the teens or later.
Goff has much stronger arm than Bridgewater. Carson Wentz is still my #1 QB with Goff a close #2.
 
Goff has much stronger arm than Bridgewater. Carson Wentz is still my #1 QB with Goff a close #2.
What is it about Wentz that has you enamored when he's about the tenth QB in the 2016 scouting reports in most lists? In fact, none of the QBs seems to jump out as NFL quality more than about 15 others who MIGHT get drafted. Are there that many good ones or is average prospects the new norm for QBs coming out from College?.
 
What is it about Wentz that has you enamored when he's about the tenth QB in the 2016 scouting reports in most lists? In fact, none of the QBs seems to jump out as NFL quality more than about 15 others who MIGHT get drafted. Are there that many good ones or is average prospects the new norm for QBs coming out from College?.
1. Wentz has been in a Pro Style offense for the last four years.
2. Wentz is comfortable with taking snaps under center.
3. Wentz has good footwork and has been well coached.
4. Wentz shows good presence in the pocket and ability to avoid sacks.
5. Wentz shows he knows how to read defenses and where to go with the ball.
6. Wentz has the athletic ability to extend the play.
7. Wentz shows he has the arm to make all the NFL throws
8. Wentz has good judgement and has shown ability not to force it and to live for another down.
9. Wentz has been excellent in the Red Zone
10. Wentz has good ability to run.
11. Wentz has excellent touch on his passes and has shown he can make the NFL tight window throws.
12. Wentz has shown tremendous aptitude to engineer game winning drives (especially in the playoffs).

Where Wentz has a slight advantage over Goff is Goff is a system QB and takes snaps in shotgun formation. Goff hasn't been coached in Pro Style offense and as a result his footwork could be better.

Lastly, those scouting report lists are often wrong, plagiarized by each other and done by people who are BIG time amateurs. A good example is most of those scouting report list were adamant that Jaelin Strong was a first rd draft pick. Folks like Todd McShay insisted that Jevan Snead was first rd draft pick. To be perfectly honest you're better off listening to advice from bah007, wolverine and few others for player evaluation advice. They're much more knowledgeable than most of those who compile those scouting report list. Also most of these draft pundits stay focused on the major conferences only and never scout the FCS much less any small school. Many have probably never heard of Carson Wentz.

There are two that I have real confidence in and who are much better than the rest, Greg Cosell and Mike Mayock. Cosell says he watches over 40 hours a week and Mayock is not far behind.
 
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What is it about Wentz that has you enamored when he's about the tenth QB in the 2016 scouting reports in most lists? In fact, none of the QBs seems to jump out as NFL quality more than about 15 others who MIGHT get drafted. Are there that many good ones or is average prospects the new norm for QBs coming out from College?.
Carson Wentz vs Jared Goff

Breaking Down North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/breaking-down-north-dakota-state-qb-carson-wentz/

VS

Breaking Down Cal’s Jared Goff
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/breaking-down-cals-jared-goff/
 
If Wentz is the real deal he will show it at the Senior Bowl in practice and the game .
At this juncture from what I've seen thus far, I will go as far to say that Wentz will be the first QB taken in the 2016 draft. (I reserve the right to change my mind)
 
At this juncture from what I've seen thus far, I will go as far to say that Wentz will be the first QB taken in the 2016 draft. (I reserve the right to change my mind)

Carr looked great at Fresno vs SMU , New Mexico State , UH and so on . He even looked OK at the Senior Bowl practices but he was his usual self once the game started . That's a good test to see if they can handle the speed of the game against really talented players .
 
Wentz is not Carr.

Carr was the #1 QB coming out in 02 and besides bad mechanics and a weak schedule , he was a can't miss . Of course he did miss and his team put up 40 something points up and none were led by him . Carr played three series with the first ending in a 3 and out . The next a ball batted down at the line and the other a sack .
 
Carr was the #1 QB coming out in 02 and besides bad mechanics and a weak schedule , he was a can't miss . Of course he did miss and his team put up 40 something points up and none were led by him . Carr played three series with the first ending in a 3 and out . The next a ball batted down at the line and the other a sack .
I could do 8000 words on why Carr was not a 1st RD pick but I'm not because it would be a waste of my time.....so until the Senior Bowl, I will read your Wentz comments then.
 
I could do 8000 words on why Carr was not a 1st RD pick but I'm not because it would be a waste of my time.....so until the Senior Bowl, I will read your Wentz comments then.

Wentz may be the greatest thing ever but I like to see them all when it gets more challenging . The Texans need to take the number Smith predicts a QB will be taken and subtract 10 from that number .


Greg Gabriel says:
October 9, 2015 at 5:01 pm

Peter,

When Garoppolo was at EIU he was in a pass happy, simple spread scheme and threw the ball 45-50 times a game. The NDSU scheme is far more similar to an NFL style scheme. Wentz will never put up the numbers that Jimmy had at Eastern. That said, if you put Wentz in that type of system, his numbers would be just as good (in my opinion) becaue I think he is a better passer than Jimmy was. What I would love to see is Wentz play in an All Star game just as Garoppolo (E/W, Sr. Bowl) did the you can see him working with better receivers than he has at NDSU
 
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