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Charlie Strong is the dumbest coach in the NCAA

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WTF was that? If you want to see how coaching can cost you a game.. Rewind this tape, Somebody needs to write a top 5 core values of coaching for him.

#1. Get your plays in on time so you don't have a crap load of delay of game penalties on a neutral field

#2 actually teach discipline on the field, (I know you preach about it off the field, but apparently you couldn't give a rat's ass about it on the field.. All those false starts are on you)

#3 avoid Illegal formations and procedure penalties ( multiple Illegal formations.. What the **** are you coaching over there? The way we were lining up on those plays looked liked that's what they were coached to do. That's on you.)

#4 value timeouts (what the hell was that.. Apparently you value timeouts as much as the loose change in you pocket when walking past a wishing fountain)

#5 Understand situational football (for Christ's sake, the fact that you didn't have your team prepared for a two point conversion play if they scored or had a play prepared speaks volumes about how incompetent you and your staff are... After 2 decades of watching football on every level, I got to say.. That was a first, first time I've ever seen that.)

The way you coach, I could turn this into a top ten list.. I hope Bob Stoops gave you a big wet kiss after the game and when he returns to Norman he needs to mail you a thank you letter, because you and the team you coach were his MVPs
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cDAq5tyfk9E
 
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The Texas Longhorns are what now, 1-4 record? And their only win was a less than thrilling 42-28 win over Rice. A home game that was much closer than it should have been. And man oh man, #15 Oklahoma is next on Saturday on ABC. Red River Shootout. They likely will be 1-5.

UT definitely has to part ways with Charlie Strong. A good head coach is vital for a football program's success. Look at the Houston Cougars. Already on the right track at 4-0 with Tom Herman coaching them up. I've been enjoying their games a lot more than the Texas Longhorns. I tend to watch both teams when I can. What a great hire he turned out to be from Ohio State's national championship team.
 
I never understood the Charlie Strong hype coming from Louisville in the first place. Was he really that good of a head coach? Or did Teddy Bridgewater just deceive everybody into believing he was a great winner? A lot of those wins he had there it was "Amazing Teddy" making big time plays at quarterback. A head coach can look better than he actually is if he has a great quarterback. See Chuck Pagano in the NFL with the Indianapolis Colts.

I wasn't too thrilled with the Charlie Strong hire by Texas in the first place but when it happened I tried to be supportive. I sort of miss Mack Brown to tell you the truth. On to the next head coach? What big name can Texas sign now? It's obvious Charlie Strong's days are numbered. He lost the team already.

But I'll say this, Charlie Strong is a good man. Part of me feels bad he's in this position. To have his players re-tweeting during halftime is a disrespect to the man's profession and it's a slap in the face to college football as well. The least these ungrateful, spoiled student-athletes can do - the ones who tweeted during halftime - is show the man some damn respect. It's a tough time for Charlie Strong right now.

The first thing I'd do if I were Charlie Strong is rip those smartphones away from those kids. They have no business being anywhere in the locker room or field. I'd take them and lock them up in my office. Give them back to the kids after the game. Social media is a big no no. Smart watches and all of that other crap have to go too. I better not see any laptops either unless it's study time.

Charlie Strong deserves to coach out this year even if it's a 1, 2 or 3-win team. They probably won't win 4 or 5 games but I want to see the man coach a team that actually gives a damn. Some of this fault should be on the players.

If I saw Longhorns DB Kris Boyd right now, I'd slap his head and tell him off. This kid is ruining what could be a pretty good future. No respect for a man's job at all. I wouldn't want to coach him. He's lucky to be receiving a good education. It doesn't matter if he transfers to Texas A&M or not. He won't go far in life with a disrespectful attitude like that. Money is money. Success is success. How you treat people is what defines you as a person.
 
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Playoffs said:
So, those of you who follow college ball -- @bah007 , @WolverineFan -- who would be at the top of your lists for UT?

I'm hearing Strong has lost all control.
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Sorry to the UH fans but the top choice would have to be Tom Herman. Despite his lack of head coaching experience, I can't think of a better fit.

Jim Mora at UCLA would be another one but he supposedly wasn't interested when the job was available last time. Fat chance he'd feel better about it now, but I'd at least call.

A guy who totally won't be on the radar but who I think is fantastic is Willie Fritz at Georgia Southern. The guy has been a stud as a head coach for 20 years but the bigger schools just haven't come calling.

I also like Matt Campbell at Toledo and Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern but they don't have enough skins on the wall to garner consideration from such a large program.
 
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Playoffs said:
So, those of you who follow college ball -- @bah007 , @WolverineFan -- who would be at the top of your lists for UT?

I'm hearing Strong has lost all control.
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Tom Herman tops the list by a mile. He doesn't have much experience but I think he's a perfect fit other than that. Guys like Brent Venables and Kirby Smart deserve a shot at some point, but a defensive HC just isn't going to cut it in the Big 12 without a top notch OC. It's a wide open offense conference and you either keep up or get left behind. TCU kept up, UT got left behind.

Two off the radar names I think are at least worth an interview are Adam Gase and Kyle Shanahan. Both are young offensive minds who keep getting passed up for NFL HC jobs because they don't have the requisite experience (think Bill O'Brien / Penn State).
 
Tom Herman wouldn't leave Houston for Austin so soon would he? I know the Texas Longhorns can throw the most money to a head coach if they have to, but wouldn't the University of Houston step up and spend more money themselves if needed? Especially after what they witnessed in the past when their football program had turned the corner into national relevance.

I would hate to lose another solid head coach and relive the Kevin Sumlin and Art Briles departures. You can make a case the Houston Cougars' football program is on the right track. They're close to be ranked in the top 25 again.

Nothing wrong about the Houston Cougars football program right now.
All they need is some stability with a great head coach. They have to keep that.

It's time for U of H to set up shop, keep their man, and become a national powerhouse for the next decade or two. In their particular situation they've been through this movie before. Now they need to change the script.

This new athletic director for the Houston Cougars seems to be the real deal. So I'm confident they will find a way to keep Tom Herman for the long haul. Regardless of the financial commitment it will take.
 
It doesn't matter how much UH wants to keep Herman. UT can quadruple UH's absolute best offer without even breaking a sweat. If they really want him then there is nothing UH can do to stop them.
 
I'm a big UH fan. Both my parents went there. But I'm realistic on a subject that most UH fans are not. The same thing that happened with Briles and Sumlin will happen with Herman eventually. Next year? Maybe not that soon. But if Herman proves himself he will be provided with a bigger opportunity.

It's not just about salary. Fair or not, UT just provides a higher ceiling than UH does for a head coach. The world of college football is not equal and UH is at a disadvantage.
 
bah007 said:
Sorry to the UH fans but the top choice would have to be Tom Herman. Despite his lack of head coaching experience, I can't think of a better fit.

Jim Mora at UCLA would be another one but he supposedly wasn't interested when the job was available last time. Fat chance he'd feel better about it now, but I'd at least call.

A guy who totally won't be on the radar but who I think is fantastic is Willie Fritz at Georgia Southern. The guy has been a stud as a head coach for 20 years but the bigger schools just haven't come calling.

I also like Matt Campbell at Toledo and Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern but they don't have enough skins on the wall to garner consideration from such a large program.
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I don't know if that's the case yet. Close but I think they'll need a new HC (Strong's gotta go) before Herman will be established enough to really attract them. He's a guy who's talking about just learning what he has to do as a HC and about how he's mostly just copying what he saw Urban Meyer doing for now (I just read that today, I can find the link I'm sure but it was a slightly older artice from back in the early summer I think).

Getting burned by Strong like this, I almost think they'll try and play it safe and might miss the connection on Herman. I'm not saying UH can necessarily keep him. I'm just saying he might be a year or two away from going anywhere and they might want to move on someone earlier than that.
 
bah007 said:
I'm a big UH fan. Both my parents went there. But I'm realistic on a subject that most UH fans are not. The same thing that happened with Briles and Sumlin will happen with Herman eventually. Next year? Maybe not that soon. But if Herman proves himself he will be provided with a bigger opportunity.

It's not just about salary. Fair or not, UT just provides a higher ceiling than UH does for a head coach. The world of college football is not equal and UH is at a disadvantage.
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Why can't the Houston Cougars become the next TCU if nothing else? For so long TCU went nowhere with it's football program, and was pretty lousy to say the least, and now they are a national powerhouse.

All Houston has to do is stay committed and keep doing what they're doing now. Keeping a great head coach is obviously part of it but not the end of the world. They can't allow Herman to get away so soon. The football program is exciting and fun right now. Just like it was when Sumlin and Briles were here.

I think Houston is a better team than Texas right now. Easier to coach.
Why take on all of that added stress? Well, more money, I know.

Houston is landing better recruits in all sports. A lot to be excited about here. If you want to go to Austin then go. But Houston is the place to be at the moment.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
Is it all on strong or is the talent at Texas that bad?
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When you can barely beat the Rice Owls by two touchdowns at home there's a bit of a talent issue, IMO. But to be fair Texas rested on leads of 21-0 and 42-14 in that game but they scored 21 in two quarters and went scoreless in the two other quarters.

Baylor stomped the same Rice team 70-17 at their house and never allowed it to creep within a couple scores like a stacked team, with national title aspirations, is expected to do. That win over Rice may be the only win Texas has to hang their hat on for a while.

Texas has a beat down coming up on Saturday against Oklahoma. 1-5 record is likely. And Texas still has to play Baylor, on the road, the last game. Ugh. That could end the season in a really bad mood. Another 50-7 type score? Ouch and West Virginia on the road is still on tap.

I'll give Texas a chance to beat Kansas and Iowa State. Let's say three wins this year.
 
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Bulls on Parade said:
When you can barely beat the Rice Owls by two touchdowns at home there's a but of a talent issue, IMO. But to be fair Texas rested on leads of 21-0 and 42-14 in that game but they scored 21 in two quarters and went scoreless in the two other quarters.

Baylor stomped the same Rice team 70-17 at their house and never allowed it to creep within a couple scores like a stacked team, with national title aspirations, is expected to do. That win over Rice may be the only win Texas has to hang their hat on for a while.

Texas has a beat down coming up on Saturday against Oklahoma. 1-5 record is likely. And Texas still has to play Baylor, on the road, the last game. Ugh. That could end the season in a really bad mood. Another 50-7 type score? Ouch and West Virginia on the road is still on tap.

I'll give Texas a chance to beat Kansas and Iowa State. Let's say three wins this year.
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Man I feel bad for strong. You don't say no to Texas when at Louisville. Yet he walked into a bad situation. No talent and in over his head in the bid 12. Man what if vs cal and ok st.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
Is it all on strong or is the talent at Texas that bad?
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There are virtually no talented upperclassmen. It's all freshmen and sophomores. However, the excuses stop there because the team is poorly coached and is soft (physically and mentally). They rolled over today and it was pathetic to watch.
 
My fear is that UT simply cannot attract the same quality of Texas HS recruits that it once did. They're finding more opportunities to be showcased at smaller schools like Baylor and TCU. Changing the head coach doesn't fix that.
 
Brisco_County said:
My fear is that UT simply cannot attract the same quality of Texas HS recruits that it once did. They're finding more opportunities to be showcased at smaller schools like Baylor and TCU. Changing the head coach doesn't fix that.
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This is so true. Baylor and TCU top ten and aTm in the SEC. Did Texas get left behind? Mack Brown left UT in shambles and he's chilling with a TV job.
 
One of the selling points of Strong was that he could go into Florida and steal recruits from Miami and Florida. It was a way for Texas to compensate for losing its monopoly on homegrown talent. But if Strong's undisciplined team is on display nationwide, who is that going to attract? He needs to get these kids focused, and he needs to shorten the leash on his defensive coordinator.
 
I don't see Texas firing Strong this year. I think they will get their AD situation worked out before the new AD brings in his guy. I also think that firing Strong after just one year playing his own recruits sets a very bad precedent that will scare other potential hires away. I could possibly see them jumping the gun if a major name becomes available (for instance if Philadelphia tanks and the Eagles fire Kelly). But I don't think they will can Strong and hire Herman with one year as a head coach. There's already too much fear that they last guy was thrown in over his head. They will want a "proven" coach. If they keep Strong for next year he will be on a VERY hot seat and Herman could be coaching 2016 for the UT job.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
This is so true. Baylor and TCU top ten and aTm in the SEC. Did Texas get left behind? Mack Brown left UT in shambles and he's chilling with a TV job.
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Add to that even schools like UH focusing heavily on recruiting locally and doing well. It's a rough time for UT. They used to be like Alabama back in the day when they could stack blue chips three and four layers deep but now there are so many other attractive options.
 
Texian said:
1. Gary Patterson TCU

2. Jimbo Fisher, FSU

3. Gus Malzhan, Auburn
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Patterson was offered the job before Strong and turned it down. He appears to be set for life at TCU. If they're still in the Mountain West I think he takes it, but with TCU in the Big XII now the move makes little sense.

Absolutely no reason for Fisher to leave an established big-time program that already has a national title on his watch.

Malzahn is a great OC who appears to be in over his head as a HC. He'll get fired from Auburn before another big program tries to hire him away.
 
Is there any chance the Texas Longhorns will go the same route that Michigan did and try to lure an exciting young head coach from the NFL? Perhaps a guy with previous collegiate head coaching experience like Jim Harbaugh had.

And no, I don't mean Bill O'Brien even though he would fit that criteria. Please no! LOL. The Texas Longhorns have deep pockets but not bigger than the Houston Texans do they?
 
bah007 said:
Patterson was offered the job before Strong and turned it down. He appears to be set for life at TCU. If they're still in the Mountain West I think he takes it, but with TCU in the Big XII now the move makes little sense.

Absolutely no reason for Fisher to leave an established big-time program that already has a national title on his watch.

Malzahn is a great OC who appears to be in over his head as a HC. He'll get fired from Auburn before another big program tries to hire him away.
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I don't think there is any doubt that we disagree here.
 
Texian said:
I don't think there is any doubt that we disagree here.
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So you think Patterson would go to Texas when he said no just two years ago?

And you think Fisher would leave Florida St for another college job not five years removed from a national championship?
 
bah007 said:
So you think Patterson would go to Texas when he said no just two years ago?

And you think Fisher would leave Florida St for another college job not five years removed from a national championship?
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I think he was asked by the media, yes, was he directly approached by the University, I'm not so sure about that.

As for Fisher, I think there are 2 or 3 schools he would consider, Texas being one.
 
bah007 said:
So you think Patterson would go to Texas when he said no just two years ago?
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Also Chip Brown is as connected and gets as much inside info about UT as anyone and I don't remember him ever saying anything about Patterson.
 
Texian said:
Also Chip Brown is as connected and gets as much inside info about UT as anyone and I don't remember him ever saying anything about Patterson.
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Chip Brown once guaranteed that Texas was going to the PAC 12.

He also led the charge in the media reporting of Saban leaving Alabama for Texas.
 
bah007 said:
Chip Brown once guaranteed that Texas was going to the PAC 12.

He also led the charge in the media reporting of Saban leaving Alabama for Texas.
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Yep he also missed when he said Patterson was A&Ms for the asking, Patterson called him a liar and said he was never contacted by A&M.
However Brown was out front on the Mack hiring and the Strong hiring.

That said I still think the Patterson to UT story was media driven not UT driven. I read nothing to suggest different. Saban was contacted by UT Boosters.

Other things aside I feel like I'm watching
UT vs TCU right now and it's Sunday.
 
Texian said:
Yep he also missed when he said Patterson was A&Ms for the asking, Patterson called him a liar and said he was never contacted by A&M.
However Brown was out front on the Mack hiring and the Strong hiring.

That said I still think the Patterson to UT story was media driven not UT driven. I read nothing to suggest different.

Other things aside I feel like I'm watching
UT vs TCU right now and it's Sunday.
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Honestly, neither have I. I know some guys that donate to TCU and are allowed certain access to the program because of it, and they were all terrified that Patterson was gonna head to Texas.

OB is doing his best Charlie Strong today, that's for sure.
 
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Honestly, neither have I. I know some guys that donate to TCU and are allowed certain access to the program because of it, and they were all terrified that Patterson was gonna head to Texas.

OB is doing his best Charlie Strong today, that's for sure.
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Without going into to much detail I have family that is high up in TCU administration who would be in the know of such a rumor. When I asked, he said he hadn't heard anything about Patterson to UT but did say they are always nervous someone will be calling and a bit surprised he's still there. TCU has made a BIG commitment to updating athletic facilities since Patterson arrived. Patterson makes good money at TCU and has to kiss a lot less butt than he would if he were at UT.
 
There's no reason money couldn't be comparable.
What facilities issues are you talking about?
What recruiting issues are you talking about?
The rest of the state of Texas is busy punking UT on prestige right now. FSU doesn't need to bother.
 
Mollywhopper said:
There's no reason money couldn't be comparable.
What facilities issues are you talking about?
What recruiting issues are you talking about?
The rest of the state of Texas is busy punking UT on prestige right now. FSU doesn't need to bother.
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FTR I am NOT a UT fan, to the contrary, Texas A&M Aggies are my team. That doesn't preclude me from understanding and admitting the Texas job is a Top 5 job in college football.

Facilities = Stadium, practice facilities, training room, dorms , medical, dining rooms and food are some of the best in college football.

Recruiting = a good recruiter like Saban could get 10 of the Top 50 recruits in Texas plus 2-3 out top recruits outside of Texas to come to Texas instead of 2-3 as in past years. A good recruiter could've a consistent Top 5 recruiting class. Aggies now have the edge playing in SEC.
 
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Texian said:
FTR I am NOT a UT fan, to the contrary, Texas A&M Aggies are my team. That doesn't preclude me from understanding and admitting the Texas job is a Top 5 job in college football.

Facilities = Stadium, practice facilities, training room, dorms , medical, dining rooms and food are some of the best in college football.

Recruiting = a good recruiter like Saban could get 10 of the Top 50 recruits in Texas plus 2-3 out top recruits outside of Texas to come to Texas instead of 2-3 as in past years. A good recruiter could've a consistent Top 5 recruiting class. Aggies now have the edge playing in SEC.
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- Thank you for going into such detail on what facilities are. All that nonsense still didn't answer how that really matters here. Florida State isn't the Dominican Republic.

- FSU is doing just fine on talent. Fisher has no problem with 5 star recruits, thought you'd kinda know that. Really Texas, Cali, and Florida are splitting hairs there.

And I'm not a UT basher, I root for them. But FSU to UT is not some big step up, no matter how many Earl Campbell and VY diehards say otherwise.
 
Mollywhopper said:
There's no reason money couldn't be comparable.
What facilities issues are you talking about?
What recruiting issues are you talking about?
The rest of the state of Texas is busy punking UT on prestige right now. FSU doesn't need to bother.
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Looks like the Gators are getting ready to take back this state. They looked seriously strong on Saturday. I have been real impressed with McElwain and Grier.

As for UT, they are the new Baylor (doormats of the Big XII). I blame the egos of those that were/are in charge. I have been a Horns fan my whole life, not a grad but have taken courses there like all of my Spanish, etc. Moving back to Austin as an adult made me realize some things that turned me off some such as the arrogance of those in charge of the University. The whole LHN thing, etc. I knew letting A&M go to the SEC was going to be a major issue, I said it when it happened. I think most Texans relate to the other southern states more than some of those states in the Big XII (Kansas, Iowa, Missouri (now West Virginia) etc). I never cared for the Big XII outside of OU and A&M. Playing schools like LSU, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida etc is just more exciting as a fan and you know it is as a player.

Personally as a fan of the Horns I don't get the arrogance. It's not like Texas has a track record of winning like many other major programs in the country. If it wasn't for Vince Young pulling games out of his arse in 2005 we would have nothing to hang our hat on in my lifetime and I am 46 years old. Well they won the NC the year I was born however I don't remember celebrating that one.
 
Hook 'Em next game, Charlie Strong!
People still believe you and the Longhorns.
Stomp #10 Oklahoma on Saturday. Whohoo!

 
Texas players sniping at each other on Twitter

Two days after freshman Kris Boyd tweeted at halftime of the TCU game, two more freshmen lashed out at junior Dylan Haines after the safety criticized the younger players’ work ethic.

“They just want to go out and play the game on Saturday.,” Haines said of the freshmen. “They don’t want to put in the work on Sunday and Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

“You can just kind of go through the motions in practice, or you can go out there and practice,” he added. “We’re trying to get where everyone — 100 percent of the people — on the team are just going out there stealing reps in practice. Just get as much done as you can."

Freshmen defensive end Charles Omenihu saw Haines’ comments and tweeted, “Lol.”

“People get in front of the cameras and just talk they heads off,” Omenihu added in a subsequent tweet that was deleted. “Always remember think before you speak.”

Sophomore receiver Armanti Foreman tweeted, “I walk around campus every day, no body guard, no security! If you have something to say please say it (to) me and stop hiding behind Twitter!”
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While I feel bad for Strong, he's got to put a huge check on this nonsense.
 
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