If anyone else saw the Carolina game today, you saw that Steve Smith is unstoppable. The #1 defense gave up 220 something yards and 2 TDs to Smith. Steve Smith is only 5-9 185 and Reggie Bush is 6-0 200. They both are extremely fast and have sick jukes. They both are very strong and have good leaping ability.
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Could Reggie Bush be our Steve Smith?
- Thread starter gtexan02
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Big B Texan Fan
Veteran
gtexan02 said:
Steve Smith was a 3rd round pick. Sure I'd take Bush then
Tale Gator
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There are few players in the NFL as unstoppable as Steve Smith.
No, but he can be our Eric Metcalf. A small guy to use in unique situations out of the backfield. Worth a #1 pick? Heck no.
If the Texans are going to stick us with Carr than we just need to trade down period.
If the Texans are going to stick us with Carr than we just need to trade down period.
LoneStarState
Waterboy
Not much love for former Longhorn Metcalf, hunh?!
Seriously, Reggie Bush is MUCH better than Metcalf. He is much more versatile. He can score from anywhere on the field. He could be WR, RB, KR. Bush on the same field as AJ and DD could be hard to defend. And if Carr can come close to what Plummer has done this year - they will be much improved. Not being a Bush Homer - but I think he's worth the first pick. Most all of us did at one time or another.
Seriously, Reggie Bush is MUCH better than Metcalf. He is much more versatile. He can score from anywhere on the field. He could be WR, RB, KR. Bush on the same field as AJ and DD could be hard to defend. And if Carr can come close to what Plummer has done this year - they will be much improved. Not being a Bush Homer - but I think he's worth the first pick. Most all of us did at one time or another.
Big B Texan Fan said:
Brady was a 5th or 6th rounder.. id take Young then.
I dont think this is a fair arguement. I mean.. Brady was taken on the second day... but are you telling me that, knowing what you know about him now, if he was a draft prospect you wouldnt take him in the first round?
Steve Smith was a pleasant surprise.. so was Brady.. so was DD.. but you cant say "well they were had in later rounds so I will put the most emphasis on middle round picks".. Talent is talent.. take it where you can get it. A prospect like Bush or Young has a lot better chance of becoming an elite player in the NFL than the 100s of possible 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounders.
bdiddy
Waterboy
Yes!
To all those people claiming that Kubiak will not take a running back because Denver never takes running backs in the 1st round, see the following story from the Denver Post:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3397734
Houston: It is difficult to believe reports the Texans are married to the decision to draft Southern California running back Reggie Bush with the No. 1 pick over Texas quarterback Vince Young, a state hero and a Houston native.
But it makes sense. It also makes sense that Bush will be the pick with the pending hiring of Broncos' offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak. All indications point to the Texans hiring Kubiak once Denver's season ends.
Kubiak knows the benefits of having a strong running game. Denver has been a running stalwart in Kubiak's time with the team and Bush is too tempting. Plus, the Texans think a solid quarterback coach such as Kubiak could salvage former overall No. 1 pick David Carr. Taking Young and bypassing on the explosiveness of Bush would not make sense. Kubiak has helped Jake Plummer flourish and he could do the same with Carr, who is only 26.
It is too early for the Texans to make their final decision, but all signals point to Bush over Young.
To all those people claiming that Kubiak will not take a running back because Denver never takes running backs in the 1st round, see the following story from the Denver Post:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3397734
Houston: It is difficult to believe reports the Texans are married to the decision to draft Southern California running back Reggie Bush with the No. 1 pick over Texas quarterback Vince Young, a state hero and a Houston native.
But it makes sense. It also makes sense that Bush will be the pick with the pending hiring of Broncos' offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak. All indications point to the Texans hiring Kubiak once Denver's season ends.
Kubiak knows the benefits of having a strong running game. Denver has been a running stalwart in Kubiak's time with the team and Bush is too tempting. Plus, the Texans think a solid quarterback coach such as Kubiak could salvage former overall No. 1 pick David Carr. Taking Young and bypassing on the explosiveness of Bush would not make sense. Kubiak has helped Jake Plummer flourish and he could do the same with Carr, who is only 26.
It is too early for the Texans to make their final decision, but all signals point to Bush over Young.
LoneStarState said:
No, not all Longhorn fans look at the NFL through "burnt orange glasses". Metcalf was a great player in college, a real good player in the NFL, but not the type of guy you take with the #1 pick, and certainly not a guy that is going to lead you to a championship. Yes, he (Metcalf) could score from anywhere on the field and could be a WR, RB, and a KR, but that type of guy isn't going to be a franchise maker.
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Shouldn't you be watching ESPN right now? I am sure they'll have some more Bush propaganda on soon.
texplayer2
Waterboy
Grid said:Oh dont even try to act like Vince Young is some kind of underdog.. he is just as much of a hype machine as Bush.
Hype is what College Football is all about. That is why they went to the BcS championship game and eventually to the plus one and then a play-off. Before the BcS how did you get to be number 1? THE MEDIA AP, in years past USC would have gone to the ROSE and PLAYED Ohio St. Texas would have played somebody else probably in the Cotton Bowl. If SC won and Texas won SC would have retained #1. And the players of both of these teams would have been scrutinized as INDIVIDUALS. But now the mighty system is trying to cut down on the what ifs and crown a CHAMPION. So now whoever is on that team has the edge in the Draft squabble among fan masses. In stead of looking at these guys as individuals they are credited with Carrying their whole team to Victory. In the old system Young goes back to school and finishes his senior year and becomes the #1 pick next year. Now you get all these guys coming out because of the Emotion of the big game being able to get them the Money instead of honeing their skills. I think the old system was better for college fans, because you could always say My team could have taken Your team because of this guy or that guy. The New system and ones to follow will give the (Professional) student athlete more incentive to go to certain schools, but will also give their NFL scouts a more accurate picture of their talents.
Texans Horror
All Pro
I hope that Reggie can do for us what Cadillac did for Tampa Bay, which is take pressure off the passing game. With a huge threat for a Running Back, Dave will be able to get the ball to Dre just like Simms to Galloway.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
To stay on topic and to go outside of my trade down stance, a Kubiak/Mularkey offensive braintrust would have the imagination to make Bush a Steve Smith/Marshal Faulk type of player.
To answer the question, if you are drafting Bush, YES. You are hoping the he has that type of impact on your team.
YoungTexanFan
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ArlingtonTexan said:
He better if he is going to be our #1 overall pick. He also better play almost every offensive down, wether at RB, WR, LT, TE, QB...whatever you see him as. (sarcasam intended towards those who think he is the pope)
jerek
Pro Hobbyist
Hookem Horns said:
This reeks of hypocrisy. Bush's hype is 'propaganda,' what is Vince's?
Bush has comparable speed/manuevers, but I think you would be mistaken to place him with Steve Smith. Hopefully if we do draft Bush, Kubiak will also work to install the kind of offense that makes guys like Smith (and AJ and Bush, again if we get him) the superstars they are.
LBC_Justin
Rookie
Not sure but I think John McClain is getting about 2%.Frills said:
But seriously, it would be their best financial interest that the Texans take Vince Young. They will sell a lot more news papers.
I hope we do get Vince Young. I think we can trade down and pick him up with the 5th pick or 6th pick in the draft. But if we can't get him there, then take Bush with the #1, who is the only player worth that pick.
TreWardTxn
Waterboy
gtexan02 said:
Smith runs sick routes against top DBs, not screens and deep bombs on LBs. If we want a receiver, then we should get a receiver. If Bush came on like that I would be pleasantly surprised...and this other guy makes a great point, Smith was a 3rd round pick, you can find guys like that in the draft later if you have people in the organization which understand talent...
MorKnolle
All Pro
LBC_Justin said:
I don't think the Texans profit from the Chronicle selling more newspapers.
That aside, Bush is fairly comparable to Steve Smith in size and abilities with the exception that Bush is not a full-time WR, but I think Steve Smith is about the closest comparison to Bush's athleticism and size. I think that Bush could learn the WR position pretty well (he has a fair amount of reps as one) and be primarily a WR for us. I am hoping Mathis will develop into a better WR and become our true #2 WR and Gaffney stays on as our slot guy, but if we draft Bush that could change things a bit. I honestly think Bush would best help our offense by lining up as a WR about 60% of the time, having Andre, Bush, and Mathis would be a scary combination of speed, and leave Domanick Davis to get 15-18 carries a game where he is most effective and not wearing out his knees, bring in Morency for another 3-7 carries a game as a sub, put Bush back there for 5-8 carries a game, and use Wells in short yardage situations. I think this type of offense would best suit the talent that we'd have if we draft Reggie Bush, and it wouldn't overwork Bush or Davis at RB. The question then becomes do you want to use a #1 draft pick and $50-52 million on a guy that will be 60% WR/40% RB? I think that would help us more than drafting Vince, but I still think trading down would be the best for the team.
Big B Texan Fan
Veteran
Good pointtulexan said:
I say Dunn and Hall
He can be called the human joystick#2, taz, or
tulexan
Hall of Fame
I said this in another thread, but Vinny Cerato (who was Bill Walsh's talent evaluator and is the VP of football operations for the Skins) sees Reggie Bush as a better Ricky Watters.
He will also be the ultimate Madden player.
Bill Simmons had a great column on this earlier in the season. He said that Michael Vick is going to be pretty mad because he will lose his title of ultimate Madden player next year to Reggie Bush who will be the first rookie to be a 99 overall.
He will also be the ultimate Madden player.
Bill Simmons had a great column on this earlier in the season. He said that Michael Vick is going to be pretty mad because he will lose his title of ultimate Madden player next year to Reggie Bush who will be the first rookie to be a 99 overall.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
TheOgre said:
Mathis needs to stay healthy in training camp, get some reps and improve his hands. If he continues to work hard, you never know. There was no way to see what he could do last season because he was hurt so much and he was so valuable to the return team, that he didn't really get as many practice reps as he needed to in order to get a lot of WR playing time.
WR is a hard position for a rookie to get a feel for. Mistakes in that position lead to wasted downs and interceptions.
Hope he has a good off-season.
Battle Red Flash
Waterboy
Hookem Horns said:
Metcalf? Not even close to Bush. Bush and AJ could be a version of Steve Smith. No one ever compared Metcalf to Sanders and Sayers like many pro scouts do.
Bush haters need to imagine what Bush's numbers would have been if Lendale White had not also been at USC. Huge, that's what.
Vince and Bush both are incredible talents, and it's a very tough choice for the Texans to make.
Just because you like Young better, let's not belittle Bush by comparing him to Metcalf.
TexansTrueFan
All Pro
bdiddy said:
hmm sounding like nothing but speculation to me "like always" but hey it must be true >>>> WhY ???? ~cause they ^ said it~
Big78
Waterboy
TAZ!!!I Love It. thats the perfect nik name for him. in his highlight clips hes always doing these crazy spins to get out of a tackle or reverse the field. from now on i will officialy refer to Reggie Bush as Taz.Big B Texan Fan said:Good point
I say Dunn and Hall
He can be called the human joystick#2, taz, or
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