Arguing points to retire

The VY/ RB/ DC debate is looking like a circular argument and it's getting boring. Many of the basic arguments have been made over ad over and have gotten addressed. A lot of points have been getting beat into the ground. In the interest of advancing the debate, I think it's time to put some of these points to bed.

I have my own opinion, but I'll withhold it for this thread. I ask that everyone else do the same. Be prepared to get called out if you throw in your for your guy.

This thread is ONLY for stuff we're sick of hearing.

I'll start and be fair about it:

• Vince Young = Michael Vick
• David Carr is not a leader
• (Insert color here) colored glasses. (EVERYBODY has on blinders when it comes to their guy.)

Feel free to post your own now.....

so what exactly is this thread about?

Just stuff I'm sick of hearing. Figured this would be a good place for someone to check to make sure their argument isn't before they post something that is. Also would be a good place for anyone else to put stuff that they're sick of hearing.

This is the most active I've seen this board in a long time. With that being said, this is the offseason for us now and there are only so many topics that we can cover. Its going to be exciting once the draft starts but untill then we're in for a lot of chasing our own tails.

_________ has an annoying mom/wife/dad/brother/sister/grandma, etc. No place for that stuff.