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BattleRedTexan

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I heard on the radio today, from a "reliable source," that Charley Casserly doesn't like Vince Young.

Apparently, Casserly thinks he is "underdeveloped."

Man, I wished they would have fired that guy. He is single handedly going to bring the team down...
 
BattleRedTexan said:
I heard on the radio today, from a "reliable source," that Charley Casserly doesn't like Vince Young.

Apparently, Casserly thinks he is "underdeveloped."

Man, I wished they would have fired that guy. He is single handedly going to bring the team down...
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He's not as developed as Philip Buchanan, Jason Babin, and Dave Ragone huh?
 
hook em:

talk to me about your avatar.

is that good 'old Texas fun, or are you serious about it?

are you giving up on us drafting VY, or trying to make a political statement?

just curious.

man, you make more avatars than anybody I know...
 
What are you guys going to do when some scouts just dis the heck outta VY? Not everyone thinks is the best thing since sliced bread despite his obvious atheletic abilities... You don't seem to have a problem calling somebody elses baby ugly - but when someone returns the favor - Katy bar the door!
 
They are going to call them ignorant and say that they obviously haven't seen him play.

What do they know, they are only professionals?
 
Two words: Heath Shuler.

CC still thinks that was a good pick. It's a crap shoot.

VY is as good as a Texan. He's the one. Period.
 
Wordem said:
Two words: Heath Shuler.

CC still thinks that was a good pick. It's a crap shoot.

VY is as good as a Texan. He's the one. Period.
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Hmmm. Norv Turner was the coach of the Redskins when Shuler was drafted. He has a history of coaching qbs - I'm sure he had input on the draft selection, too. Maybe there's a reason he's been fired from the head coaching jobs he's had... just a thought.
 
now thats an idea i can get behind. Lets all say who is going to get taken.. and then just wait.. no more posting on it.

We are taking Bush.. see ya in March :)
 
LoneStarState said:
Hmmm. Norv Turner was the coach of the Redskins when Shuler was drafted. He has a history of coaching qbs - I'm sure he had input on the draft selection, too. Maybe there's a reason he's been fired from the head coaching jobs he's had... just a thought.
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Maybe there's a reason Casserly got fired and the Redskins are in the playoffs. Hmmmmmm.
 
BattleRedTexan said:
I heard on the radio today, from a "reliable source," that Charley Casserly doesn't like Vince Young.

Apparently, Casserly thinks he is "underdeveloped."

Man, I wished they would have fired that guy. He is single handedly going to bring the team down...
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Vince Young is UNDERDEVELOPED. Sorry its a fact, if you want a polished QB who might start in year 1, draft Leinhart. If you want to take a chance on a plyer who may be better then the top 2%, you draft VY.

I thought this was common and accept knowledge.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
I thought this was common and accept knowledge.
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For people who don't watch a lot of Longhorn football. Sure. They're all wrong. Period. He could play next year and the Texans would win eight games. He's that good.
 
Wordem said:
For people who don't watch a lot of Longhorn football. Sure. They're all wrong. Period. He could play next year and the Texans would win eight games. He's that good.
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Yeah if the Texans played in NFL Europe.

Vince could school the Rhein Fire and Scottish Claymores.
 
Dude, lay off the accusation that people who querstion VY dont watch UT football, becasue its not only wrong, and shortsided, it's also just ignorant.

if draft I would not want VY to start next year. IF any QB screamed for the McNair treatment it's Vince. He needs tiem to work on his reads, fine tune his sense of when he should run and when he should not, learn to slide for extra yards and just get teh hand of a pro style offense (becasue I highly doubt will be running the spread next year)

oh, FYI I've seen every UT game for nearly the last decade, and while VY maybe the most gifted QB ever to step onto Jamil Feild, he also has the worst throwing motion (not that it will hurt him much, but i does negate his height when he throws it from the funky side arm angle)
 
If this wasnt a family board....hehehe.

I think its safe to say though that Wordem here is not going to change his mind about Vince Young being an instant hall of fame QB. Im just gonna let him be.. after the draft, if we dont get Vince.. we wont ever see him again anyway. he will undoubtably become a "hardcore" fan for whatever team gets him.
 
Here's what I don't get, were all of you guys clamoring to fire Casserly after our 4-12, 5-11, and 7-9 seasons where we showed improvement? Yes, I have questions about Casserly's judgement, but I do think they should give him at least one more year. I'm probably in the minority there, but that's just my opinion.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Vince Young is UNDERDEVELOPED. Sorry its a fact, if you want a polished QB who might start in year 1, draft Leinhart. If you want to take a chance on a plyer who may be better then the top 2%, you draft VY.

I thought this was common and accept knowledge.
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Just as common as Bush being undersized, and sidelined in a big game by a formal NFL coach who was enamoured by VY.
 
BattleRedTexan said:
I heard on the radio today, from a "reliable source," that Charley Casserly doesn't like Vince Young.

Apparently, Casserly thinks he is "underdeveloped."

Man, I wished they would have fired that guy. He is single handedly going to bring the team down...
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Um, Vince Young IS underdeveloped -- just like every college QB. Even Peyton Manning had a rough rookie year.
 
Grid said:
If this wasnt a family board....hehehe.

I think its safe to say though that Wordem here is not going to change his mind about Vince Young being an instant hall of fame QB. Im just gonna let him be.. after the draft, if we dont get Vince.. we wont ever see him again anyway. he will undoubtably become a "hardcore" fan for whatever team gets him.
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Is it safe to say that you want bush an we cannot change your mind?????
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Just as common as Bush being undersized, and sidelined in a big game by a formal NFL coach who was enamoured by VY.
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A former NFL coach who sucked at New England, a coach who has out coached by Mack Brown (who unitll this year had serious questions about his ability to win a big game). Oh and wasn't he sidelined for a guy who was tearing up the vaunted UT D?

Yeah, I thought he was. You can't knock Bush for Carroll's moronic actions at the end of the Rose Bowl. Was is Bush's fault that Pete called a timeout before UT went for 2?
 
I dont hate him yet Texansam. I think we just need to get him a bit of help..and put some boundaries on what he can do.

I have no complaints with Casserly's drafting. I think he has done a good job overall. Heck.. we have had 3 players in the last 3 drafts who were all either Rookie of the year, or should have been. He hasnt been PERFECT in the draft... and there are a handful of GMs who may have done better jobs.. but all in all I think he has done well.

It is his FA moves which have hurt. Bradford, Greenwood, Buchanan, Riley, Wade.. and the loss of players like Foley, Posey, Sharper, and Glenn.... Casserly's performance in FA has been dreadful and I think we really need to do something about that.

so.. no i have no real issue with Casserly as our GM. I dont like him very much.. but I can live with his choices..so long as we have someone closely monitoring and approving his FA moves.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Is it safe to say that you want bush an we cannot change your mind?????
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No.

Bush or Trade down. It IS safe to say that you cannot convince me that Young would be a good move for the Texans.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Just as common as Bush being undersized, and sidelined in a big game by a formal NFL coach who was enamoured by VY.
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Yeah a former NFL coach who was fired because he was a terrible coach.
 
Wordem said:
That's funny. You reek of aggy.
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Boy, you might want to think about what you say in the furure. Callin' me an Aggie when you have no idea where I went to school might get you called a few things yourself.

The fact that you just pissed me off royally should indicate how that I atleast didn't go join that cult in College Station.

But on the other hand, can you look at the world, or even a football player, and objectivly evaluate him as a pro pospect without your burnt orange colored glasses?
 
Cult? do they not teach sociology where you went to college? :).. we are a sub-culture :)..not a cult hehe.
 
Grid said:
Cult? do they not teach sociology where you went to college? :).. we are a sub-culture :)..not a cult hehe.
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Nope sorry, sociology ain't taught up on the Caprock. Sorry, it's just a little to much of a leftist ideal for us good ol Tech boys.:)
 
Hoth-Boy said:
A former NFL coach whosucked at New England, a coach who has out coacehd by Mack Brown (who unitll this year had serious questions about his ability to wina big game). Oh and wasn't he sidelined for a guy who was tearing up the vaunted UT D?

Yeah, I thought he was. You can't knock Bush for Carroll's moronic actions at the end of the Rose Bowl. Was is Bush's fault that Pete called a timeout before UT went for 2?
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Any NFL coach to lead their team to a SB does not suck.

I ain't worried about the vaunted UT D. Other than the fact that they held 'em down when it counted and contained the all mighty, forever running and no stopping Bush.

I ain't knockin' Bush for Carrolls' moronic actions,
I'm knocking Bush for Bushs' moronic actons!!!​
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Boy, you might want to think about what you say in the furure.
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What are you gonna do, Old Army? Pull out your e-sword? e-punch me?

Lighten up, Francis. You're on a message board on the interweb. Take a bong hit and chill.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Just as common as Bush being undersized, and sidelined in a big game by a formal NFL coach who was enamoured by VY.
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Big B Texan Fan said:
I ain't knockin' Bush for Carrolls' moronic actions,

I'm knocking Bush for Bushs' moronic actons!!!
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For some reason I can't get these two statements to agree with each other in my mind. Can you explain, please?

Becasue as one of those of not blessed enough to have attend UVY, they seem to contradict each other.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Boy, you might want to think about what you say in the furure. Callin' me an Aggie when you have no idea where I went to school might get you called a few things yourself.

The fact that you just pissed me off royally should indicate how that I atleast didn't go join that cult in College Station.

But on the other hand, can you look at the world, or even a football player, and objectivly evaluate him as a pro pospect without your burnt orange colored glasses?
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Sooner? Just kidding....Nothing against the Ags (I always thought the world of Bucky Richardson,) but you probably wouldn't be the first guy to get pissed about being called that.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
For some reason I can't get these two statements to agree with each other in my mind. Can you explain, please?

Becasue as one of those of not blessed enough to have attend UVY, they seem to contradict each other.
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Do you need me to type slower for you to comprehend.
Of course Bush wil not sideline himself, but his actions got him sidelined and his coach was not afraid to pull the trigger on it just because he is supposed to be the next coming of Gayle Sayers.

I have not attended the UVY either, It is mho that we need Young, not bush.

You're gonna replace a proven productive player.
Why not replace the unproven unproductive player.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
My bad that was when Parcells' was there.
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Yeah Parcells went to the Super Bowl in 1996

Carroll took over in 1997 and each year his record got worse and worse.

1997: 10-6
1998: 9-7
1999: 8-8

He was fired after the 1999 season. Bellicheck took over Carroll's team in 2000 and went 5-11, and then after that won 3 Super Bowls over the next 4 years.

Coaching makes a big difference.
 
tulexan said:
He was fired after the 1999 season. Bellicheck took over Carroll's team in 2000 and went 5-11, and then after that won 3 Super Bowls over the next 4 years.

Coaching makes a big difference.
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And QB makes a difference, too, because Belichick benched the golden boy QB Bledose and went with Brady to jumpstart his 3 Super Bowls...
 
Oh Crap, it's been more than 2 minutes and still no response from HOTH-BOY.
You must be typing up a long one with all kind of stats and ****.

OK, I'll check back in a couple of minutes
 
tulexan said:
Yeah Parcells went to the Super Bowl in 1996

Carroll took over in 1997 and each year his record got worse and worse.

1997: 10-6
1998: 9-7
1999: 8-8

He was fired after the 1999 season. Bellicheck took over Carroll's team in 2000 and went 5-11, and then after that won 3 Super Bowls over the next 4 years.

Coaching makes a big difference.
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Carroll is better with the Defensive calls, I think they were finally missing Norm Chow in that game. Those younger assistants will learn. And will get another shot at the big game in the future.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Do you need me to type slower for you to comprehend.
Of course Bush wil not sideline himself, but his actions got him sidelined and his coach was not afraid to pull the trigger on it just because he is supposed to be the next coming of Gayle Sayers.
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What actions? the 26 yrd TD run wher he made eveybody on the UT D looked like they stuck to the ground?

But I'm willing to bet you mean the "pitch", Am I right?

If I am, it porves more of Carroll's ineptitudes then Reggie's lack of ability, IMO. Was the pitch boneheaded? Hell yes it was. Was it as boneheaded as VY's pitch? Hell yes. NO player, no matter who good he is should every pitch the ball in either of those situations, both Bush and Yound f'ed up on those plays.

If Carroll was half the coach Sailsbury steak made him out to be, Reggie would have been lined up in the back filed then put in motion on that play, more then likely as nothing more then a decoy. But it would have improve the chances of White, who gashed UT all night, to pick up the yard and a half.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Oh Crap, it's been more than 2 minutes and still no response from HOTH-BOY.
You must be typing up a long one with all kind of stats and ****.

OK, I'll check back in a couple of minutes
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Thank you, dude.

Best laugh I've had in several days.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Vince Young is UNDERDEVELOPED. Sorry its a fact, if you want a polished QB who might start in year 1, draft Leinhart. If you want to take a chance on a plyer who may be better then the top 2%, you draft VY.

I thought this was common and accept knowledge.
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Carr has been here 4 years and is underdeveloped. What does jackCass have to say about that?
 
Hoth-Boy said:
What actions? the 26 yrd TD run wher he made eveybody on the UT D looked like they stuck to the ground?

But I'm willing to bet you mean the "pitch", Am I right?

If I am, it porves more of Carroll's ineptitudes then Reggie's lack of ability, IMO. Was the pitch boneheaded? Hell yes it was. Was it as boneheaded as VY's pitch? Hell yes. NO player, no matter who good he is should every pitch the ball in either of those situations, both Bush and Yound f'ed up on those plays.

If Carroll was half the coach Sailsbury steak made him out to be,
Reggie would have been lined up in the back filed then put in motion on that play, more then likely as nothing more then a decoy.
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But it would have improve the chances of White, who gashed UT all night, to pick up the yard and a half.
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I wasn't talking about the pitch.......ok I'm lying, yeah I was.

And I like your thinking, Let's draft Bush to be a DECOY.
 
It's pretty interesting that on the day Bush declares and CC indicates he is likely the pick and the media indicates it, that all the VY faithfull get all histerical and just repeating stuff like it is some sort of Zen mantra or something. Think their worried their guy isn't going to be picked? Kind of like...if I klick my heels I'll be back in Kansas or maybe if I repeat it often enough it will come true. Let me try that:

The winning lotto numbers are 5-7-9-23-46-19

The winning lotto numbers are 5-7-9-23-46-19

The winning lotto numbers are 5-7-9-23-46-19

Mmmm, nope that didn't work.
 
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