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WE have the number 1 pick

Wow. Even when they were in the lead, i knew they would find a way to blow it.... I hope this years draft will be better. Lord knows we have excellent draft position.
 
LCROD that is untrue. Team sources have not said either way. they have acknowledged that he is a good talent, but they are evaluating options and waiting till they see all the players in the draft.
 
Coach C. said:
LCROD that is untrue. Team sources have not said either way. they have acknowledged that he is a good talent, but they are evaluating options and waiting till they see all the players in the draft.
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Hence why I'm asking for some facts. Should be a good offseason.
 
Of course you act like you're taking Bush so someone will sell you the farm for him. He has a shrine out west worth a dynasty of players if they play their cards right. He's good but pro football is not the pac 10. They tackle and when the blocking isn't there he will get tackled. Football is the quintessential team sport. This is not Danny Manning's Kansas team where one guy can carry an average supporting cast. Every facet of the team is crucial and the Texans could fill 20% of their starting 22 with high quality players if they deal right.
 
If we don't fix the problems on the O-Line it wont matter if Reggie Bush is the next Jim Brown. We are still going to lose a lot of games.
 
With the first pick in the 2006 NFL draft the Houston Texans select USC RB Reggie Bush...... Music to my ears
 
RiotCommander said:
If we don't fix the problems on the O-Line it wont matter if Reggie Bush is the next Jim Brown. We are still going to lose a lot of games.
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It won't matter if we pick a lineman because we won't have anyone left to run behind this stellar line we will have with one decent pick at lineman. Maybe this years linemen will prove scouts wrong and we will pick the next Mike Munchak and live happily ever after.:rolleyes:

Reggie Bush
 
By the way all you that dont believe in Bush. Just shut up and enjoy the show. And dont forget to kiss it when your provin wrong.
 
i will be the first in line for bush crow if he turns out to be a stud....but i want it on record that if he turns out to be a bust, i was calling it from the start
 
swtbound07 said:
i will be the first in line for bush crow if he turns out to be a stud....but i want it on record that if he turns out to be a bust, i was calling it from the start
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Fair enough. Just as long as you don't cheer against him when he becomes a Texan. :)
 
tulexan said:
The line didn't look that bad today.
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Oh yes, the two worst teams in the league (as far as records go) playing, and our line has a good game. Phew I guess we can put that issue to bed eh? Are you kidding?

I would take a great O-line over a great running back anyday. Who do you thinks opens those holes for them anyway. We already have DD, I would rather fix the line, and hope he remains healthy. Its a risky chance I will admit, but so is ignoring the O-line as we have been doing.
 
Johnny Utah said:
Fair enough. Just as long as you don't cheer against him when he becomes a Texan. :)
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i dont cheer against ANY of the texans....i Was in a sports bar for hours cheering for a texans victory. Once you put on the colors, i cheer for you till my voice gives out, and that includes phillip buchanon. I just dont want him wearing the jersey to begin with.
 
RiotCommander said:
Oh yes, the two worst teams in the league (as far as records go) playing, and our line has a good game. Phew I guess we can put that issue to bed eh? Are you kidding?

I would take a great O-line over a great running back anyday. Who do you thinks opens those holes for them anyway. We already have DD, I would rather fix the line, and hope he remains healthy. Its a risky chance I will admit, but so is ignoring the O-line as we have been doing.
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If we could get a whole o-line, I might agree, but it won't happen. DD has not remained healthy for awhile. He is a good playmaker, but we need more.
 
texplayer2 said:
DD has not remained healthy for awhile. He is a good playmaker, but we need more.
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Yeah, like Wells and Morency, lol. People, this team does better when Wells is in the game anyway.
 
RiotCommander said:
Oh yes, the two worst teams in the league (as far as records go) playing, and our line has a good game. Phew I guess we can put that issue to bed eh? Are you kidding?

I would take a great O-line over a great running back anyday. Who do you thinks opens those holes for them anyway. We already have DD, I would rather fix the line, and hope he remains healthy. Its a risky chance I will admit, but so is ignoring the O-line as we have been doing.
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Actually the Niners have a pretty good front seven. Their major problem on defense is their secondary.
 
Trade down, get an OT, get some extra picks, try to grab Huff from Texas and try to fill SO MANY NEEDS we have.
 
swtbound07 said:
i will be the first in line for bush crow if he turns out to be a stud....but i want it on record that if he turns out to be a bust, i was calling it from the start
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i have the same feelings. I have been calling bush a bust waiting to happen since the begining, and will continue to do so. I will eat my crow if he is good, but I want it known that i have been against bush from the begining. When he does bust, i want to recognized as being one of the first to call it, even before the season.
 
I'm not clear on how you guys determine who is going to be a bust and who's not at this stage in time... I dont know of any mathematical equations that would even come close to helping you guys figure this out...Having said that...Why my friends, if you have seen him play, do you think he'll be a "BUST"????
 
This debate will go on from now until draft day. The pundits don't agree on what Houston should do with the first pick. Is there a wrong way to go? You are either a " Draft Bush Guy ", or " Trade for Picks Guy". There are valid reason to do both. Here's hoping we choose right.
 
I don't know why so many people are quick to call him a bust, yet call D'Brick or Eric Winston great prospects?
 
exactly tulexan...I have seen all three play, and Bush has been the most dominant by far...That is why i am puzzled that so many would call him a Bust, he's not a lock...no one is...but to automatically call him a bust is crazy
 
im not saying he is automatic, but im also not saying that dbrick will be a god among o-lineman...im just saying, i think reggie has the highest potential to be a bust at this point. From what i've seen, i dont think he has a chance to suceed in the nfl. As to how i arrive at that conclusion, i watch games, i read scouting reports, and i insert my own opinions and football knowledge. reasonable men can differ, and my opinion is that bush will fail. You think he will suceed....time will tell, and your opinion is no more valid than mine.
 
RiotCommander said:
and hope he remains healthy.
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And that's his #1 problem right there, the dude can't stay healthy. He is not as durable like some people on this board want's to believe.

I say draft Reggie Bush @ 1 and worry about getting o-lineman through free agency and later rounds of the draft.

My :twocents:
 
I haven't stated my opinion actually...Im just asking how you came to the conclusion he will be a bust...I see you mentioned scouting reports and yada yada yada....well let me ask you this...since reggie, in your words, "is most likely to be a bust,"...Who has the best chance to suceed ? And by the way the fact that you think he is the most likely to be a bust is just insane...
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I haven't stated my opinion actually...Im just asking how you came to the conclusion he will be a bust...I see you mentioned scouting reports and yada yada yada....well let me ask you this...since reggie, in your words, "is most likely to be a bust,"...Who has the best chance to suceed ? And by the way the fact that you think he is the most likely to be a bust is just insane...
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and if I'm right?? am i still insane then, or am i some kind of psychic. Im sure people were predicting the downfall of kijana carter before he was drafted, just like people predicted lebron would never make it in the nba. Now in one of those instances, the "crazy" predicter was right, and in one of those instances he was wrong. Now as to your question, who in my opinion has the best chance to suceed, i'll give you a couple of names i feel will be sucesses. (Note, some players might not come out this year) DBrickashaw Ferguson, Lendale White, Ernie Simms, AJ Hawk. I also happen to think Matt Leinhart wont be that good in the NFL, but i've never had to make that point because nobody on this board is clamoring for him.
 
swtbound07 said:
From what i've seen, i dont think he has a chance to suceed in the nfl. As to how i arrive at that conclusion, i watch games, i read scouting reports, and i insert my own opinions and football knowledge. reasonable men can differ, and my opinion is that bush will fail.
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Why can't he succeed? What makes him a complete bust and a guy of similar build Tiki Barber, one of the best running backs in the league? I've heard all of the "reasons" as to why he will fail and very few of them are reasonable. People argue that he is too small, but they say that Laurence Maroney who is only listed at 10 lbs heavier has the prototypical build of a running back. This is also before Reggie Bush will be working with an NFL strength coach and eating a proper diet. He could easily and will probably be the 10-15 pounds heavier by the time he takes his first snap in the NFL. Then they say that he can't carry the ball 25-30 times a game. I'll admit that orginally I was one who said that and he proved me wrong. Well the times that he has carried the ball 25-30 times in a game he has had over 250 yards each time. And how many running backs consistently carry the ball 25-30 times a game? 3 players in the modern era have had 400+ carries in a season which average to 25 carries per game. Then they say that Reggie Bush has all of these big holes that he runs through, but fail to recognize that our team is a very good run blocking team and gives Domanick Davis several big holes to run through each game.

Please tell me why he won't have a chance to succeed in the NFL because I don't understand you're reasoning.
 
first of all, yes, i think he is too small. Other people have suceeded in the nfl being undersized, you are correct. However, Tiki and Warrick are most definitely the exception, not the rule. Here is most of my reasoning, take it for what its worth. Reggie Bush is not the type of running back that can run between the tackles. He is most suited to making one quick cut, getting outside and then outrunning everyone. The NFL game is much faster than the college game, and Bush wont be able to suceed unless he becomes able to run both inside and outside, and become a complete back. I dont think he is big enough or versatile enough to be an NFL running back.
 
tulexan said:
Why can't he succeed? What makes him a complete bust and a guy of similar build Tiki Barber, one of the best running backs in the league? I've heard all of the "reasons" as to why he will fail and very few of them are reasonable. People argue that he is too small, but they say that Laurence Maroney who is only listed at 10 lbs heavier has the prototypical build of a running back. This is also before Reggie Bush will be working with an NFL strength coach and eating a proper diet. He could easily and will probably be the 10-15 pounds heavier by the time he takes his first snap in the NFL. Then they say that he can't carry the ball 25-30 times a game. I'll admit that orginally I was one who said that and he proved me wrong. Well the times that he has carried the ball 25-30 times in a game he has had over 250 yards each time. And how many running backs consistently carry the ball 25-30 times a game? 3 players in the modern era have had 400+ carries in a season which average to 25 carries per game. Then they say that Reggie Bush has all of these big holes that he runs through, but fail to recognize that our team is a very good run blocking team and gives Domanick Davis several big holes to run through each game.

Please tell me why he won't have a chance to succeed in the NFL because I don't understand you're reasoning.
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You won't ever get a solid reason from none of these Bush haters, so you shouldn't even waste your time.

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swtbound07 said:
first of all, yes, i think he is too small. Other people have suceeded in the nfl being undersized, you are correct. However, Tiki and Warrick are most definitely the exception, not the rule. Here is most of my reasoning, take it for what its worth. Reggie Bush is not the type of running back that can run between the tackles. He is most suited to making one quick cut, getting outside and then outrunning everyone. The NFL game is much faster than the college game, and Bush wont be able to suceed unless he becomes able to run both inside and outside, and become a complete back. I dont think he is big enough or versatile enough to be an NFL running back.
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What do u mean by succeed? Will he do the same thing as he did in college? Probably not...Will he be able to compete with the top 12 backs in the leauge probably so...To me that is succeeding
 
LikeABoss said:
You won't ever get a solid reason from none of these Bush haters, so you shouldn't even waste your time.

My :twocents:
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Do i come off as a "Bush hater" who fails to make coherent points or argues without logic? Am i blindly repeating "Bush stinks!" at every opportunity? Because if thats how im being perceived after all of the posts i've made then i will just stop talking....
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
What do u mean by succeed? Will he do the same thing as he did in college? Probably not...Will he be able to compete with the top 12 backs in the leauge probably so...To me that is succeeding
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What im predicting by saying he will bust is that he will either be out of the league within 2 years by significant injury, never have a 1,000 yard season, and have a subpar YPC average.
 
well it's obvious that you are just a Bush basher to say with such authourity what he will and won't do...The reason I say this is because, he has been the best back in College this year, and yes you can make cases for others but I think the general consensus it that Bush has been the most dominant... Now for you to say that he definitely will be a bust, when you don't have any hard evidence, sounds like you are either trying to make yourself believe that, or that is what you are hoping for...which one is it? You stated above significant injury...what evidence do you have to support that he may have a significant injury, or is this just something that you are throwing out because you are a Bush basher and to some degree you would like to see that happen...
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
well it's obvious that you are just a Bush basher to say with such authourity what he will and won't do...The reason I say this is because, he has been the best back in College this year, and yes you can make cases for others but I think the general consensus it that Bush has been the most dominant... Now for you to say that he definitely will be a bust, when you don't have any hard evidence, sounds like you are either trying to make yourself believe that, or that is what you are hoping for...which one is it? You stated above significant injury...what evidence do you have to support that he may have a significant injury, or is this just something that you are throwing out because you are a Bush basher and to some degree you would like to see that happen...
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thats sort of the definition of a prediction isnt it? Saying what you think someone will or wont do? I think he will suffer a significant injury because i think he is undersized. I dont wish ill on any man, im not going to be upset if he doesnt get hurt, thats a ridiculous thing to say. Just because i dont think he will be a good nfl player and you do doesnt mean your right and im wrong. Nobody has any "hard evidence" on what will happen. Thats why they are called PROSPECTS. You dont have any hard evidence that he will be the next gale sayers, yet you dont jump on people when they say that. Dont bash me just because your not fond of my opinion
 
Injuries come to players of all sizes. Cedric Benson, who proved that he can carry the load and had an "NFL body" had a season ending injury in one of the first games that he played in. Deuce McAlister, one of the best backs in the league, and certainly not small by any means, has had bad injuries the past two seasons. Ahman Green had a bad injury, but he isn't that small. Tiki Barber hasn't had many injuries and he isn't that big. Warrick Dunn isn't that big and he hasn't had too many bad injuries. But Reggie Bush for some reason will be injury prone even though he has no history of injuries.
 
tulexan said:
Injuries come to players of all sizes. Cedric Benson, who proved that he can carry the load and had an "NFL body" had a season ending injury in one of the first games that he played in. Deuce McAlister, one of the best backs in the league, and certainly not small by any means, has had bad injuries the past two seasons. Ahman Green had a bad injury, but he isn't that small. Tiki Barber hasn't had many injuries and he isn't that big. Warrick Dunn isn't that big and he hasn't had too many bad injuries. But Reggie Bush for some reason will be injury prone even though he has no history of injuries.
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That is a very valid point, and i will grant you, i could be wrong, but in my head the path goes something like this
bush=undersized back
Undersize= more susceptible to injury
therefore bush=probably gonna be injured

I didnt do any vast amount of research into his injury history to arrive to that conclusion, and you are right, players of all sizes go down. Even removing that portion of my arguement, my original points about reggie still stand
 
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