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McClain rumor

mussop

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I'm no McClain fan but he had an interesting story to tell this morning. According to him a pro scout that has been around a long time swears he knows which QB the texans will draft. In fact he was so sure of it he wanted to bet McClain a steak dinner anywhere he wanted. McClain pushed him on it and the scout refused to say who the QB was. He did however say it wouldn't be a first overall pick QB. In fact it was a second round/tier QB.

The fact that he is refusing to name names kinda makes it more credible IMO. McClain pointed out to him that they still have private workouts scheduled and could change their minds. He didn't disagree but was adamant that they are set I a particular QB in the second round. If true my money is on Garoppolo (sp) or AJ McCarren.
 

Stemp

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His can you be set on one specific 2nd rounder when you have no idea if that guy will get picked before your turn??
 

IDEXAN

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Not that I think for a minute that McClain has a clue about the intentions of the Texans in this Draft, but I do hope this "rumor" might somehow turn out to be true because I think we can do better for ourselves using the 1.1 on a non-QB and getting our QB later either in this Draft or thru trading a draft pick for a
QB already on another teams roster.
 

infantrycak

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His can you be set on one specific 2nd rounder when you have no idea if that guy will get picked before your turn??
If you are targeting a guy expected to go significantly lower and interested only in that particular player rather than the position. It's not a guarantee if that is what you are asking.
 

thunderkyss

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If true my money is on Garoppolo (sp) or AJ McCarren.
Don't bet on McCarron. I am the anti-fan, whatever I want, they do the exact opposite. It took me four years to fake that I loved Kubiak & when I finally got it..... BAM.

I'm working on my man-love for Rick Smith next.

Also if something unexpected happens, like Bridgewater dropping to the 2-1, I'd bet they go with him.
 

Texn4life

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A steak dinner isn't exactly betting the farm. Plus the scout always has an out in case the QB gets picked ahead of the Texans so he can always say they would have drafted him.
 

Porky

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Mettenberger or Garrapalo would be my guess IF (huge if) the scout is onto something. I like Jimmy but his hands are small. And Mettenberger is coming off an ACL. All QB's in this draft have one or more question marks.

I am not a huge fan of AJ. I wouldn't bite on him in the 2nd. Maybe in the 3rd or 4th. I think his future is shaky. Good backup/borderline starter type to me.

I still think they are taking Bortles at 1.1.
 

BigBull17

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Mettenberger or Garrapalo would be my guess IF (huge if) the scout is onto something. I like Jimmy but his hands are small. And Mettenberger is coming off an ACL. All QB's in this draft have one or more question marks.

I am not a huge fan of AJ. I wouldn't bite on him in the 2nd. Maybe in the 3rd or 4th. I think his future is shaky. Good backup/borderline starter type to me.

I still think they are taking Bortles at 1.1.
i think its Clowney or trade down. You absolutely cannot take one of these qbs number 1. None of them are worth the pick. Id rather reach later in thee draft on a qb than reach with #1 overall.
 

HOU-TEX

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Isn't Garappolo more of a 3rd round prospect? I like him a lot, but think 33 might be a bit early to pick him.
 

mussop

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Isn't Garappolo more of a 3rd round prospect? I like him a lot, but think 33 might be a bit early to pick him.
I have seen him going in the first on a lot of mocks. Even if so better to reach for a Third round QB in the second than a mid rounder at first overall. Especially when there isn't a whole lot of separation from the two.
 

AcresHomesTexan

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If you are targeting a guy expected to go significantly lower and interested only in that particular player rather than the position. It's not a guarantee if that is what you are asking.
I think generally it is called a "reach."
 

Mr teX

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To be honest, everything BoB has said publicly about the qb's in this draft & our qb situation points to this. Every time someone asks him about 1 of the top 3, he always goes out of his way to mention a few of the other 2nd tier guys.

I honestly think he's looking past the 1st 3 guys unless 1 of them drops to around 25 or so.

I don't think Grapalo will be there. Someone's gonna reach & get him late in the 1st. My bet on the 2nd tier qb he's targeting is either Mettenberger or Savage. Mettenberger b/c there won't be any pressure there to put him in right away b/c of his late injury, but the potential is definitely there.

& prior to BoB mentioning him, I hadn't heard anything about a Tom Savage.....from anyone. Which tells me he's firmly entrenched as a 2nd round & below prospect that most likely will be there 2:1 when the texans come up.
 

thunderkyss

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To be honest, everything BoB has said publicly about the qb's in this draft & our qb situation points to this. Every time someone asks him about 1 of the top 3, he always goes out of his way to mention a few of the other 2nd tier guys.
I still doubt they have a solid idea about how the draft will unfold. Whatever they think now, will probably change after this week, when they get a better look at the players we have.

I guarantee you Rick has been selling his team to OB from day one. "Wait 'till you see this guy, do this, or that." or "You're going to be really impressed with, blah, blah, blah..."

As far as the QB thing goes, if I'm OB, I'm asking myself two questions.
  1. Can I win with this guy?
    This goes back to the list of things OB said he is looking for in a QB. I think all but maybe four guys would fit.
  2. Can I win this year with this guy?
    I think five guys in this years draft answers yes here.

From what I've heard about the draft I feel pretty good that at least two of the guys that answer yes to both questions will be there at the top of the second (which is basically a first round pick)...... it would be hard for me to draft a QB at the top of the draft just because "everybody" is talking about three of them.
 

TexansSeminole

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I still doubt they have a solid idea about how the draft will unfold. Whatever they think now, will probably change after this week, when they get a better look at the players we have.

I guarantee you Rick has been selling his team to OB from day one. "Wait 'till you see this guy, do this, or that." or "You're going to be really impressed with, blah, blah, blah..."

As far as the QB thing goes, if I'm OB, I'm asking myself two questions.
  1. Can I win with this guy?
    This goes back to the list of things OB said he is looking for in a QB. I think all but maybe four guys would fit.
  2. Can I win this year with this guy?
    I think five guys in this years draft answers yes here.

From what I've heard about the draft I feel pretty good that at least two of the guys that answer yes to both questions will be there at the top of the second (which is basically a first round pick)...... it would be hard for me to draft a QB at the top of the draft just because "everybody" is talking about three of them.
I don't agree, I think they finished their in-house evaluation of current players a month or more ago. Normally, the draft would be just around the corner, so I think the Texans are probably done with most if not all their evaluation. They are probably putting together some situational strategies in case specific things happen at this point.
 

IDEXAN

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I still doubt they have a solid idea about how the draft will unfold. Whatever they think now, will probably change after this week, when they get a better look at the players we have.

I guarantee you Rick has been selling his team to OB from day one. "Wait 'till you see this guy, do this, or that." or "You're going to be really impressed with, blah, blah, blah..."

As far as the QB thing goes, if I'm OB, I'm asking myself two questions.
  1. Can I win with this guy?
    This goes back to the list of things OB said he is looking for in a QB. I think all but maybe four guys would fit.
  2. Can I win this year with this guy?
    I think five guys in this years draft answers yes here.


From what I've heard about the draft I feel pretty good that at least two of the guys that answer yes to both questions will be there at the top of the second (which is basically a first round pick)...... it would be hard for me to draft a QB at the top of the draft just because "everybody" is talking about three of them.
Oh I think they do now, I think they've certainly got their collective mind set on what they want to do with their top pick. You know what you want to do don't you thunderkyss, what you want the Texans to do with their 1.1 right, so I'm sure they have their plan at this point.
 

Mr teX

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I still doubt they have a solid idea about how the draft will unfold. Whatever they think now, will probably change after this week, when they get a better look at the players we have.

I guarantee you Rick has been selling his team to OB from day one. "Wait 'till you see this guy, do this, or that." or "You're going to be really impressed with, blah, blah, blah..."

don't believe that at all b/c i dont think that's how rick operates. Rick is probably deferring to OB alot not only b/c that seems to be how he did it with Kubiak, but b/c he's next in line to be fired if they can't make something happen in the next couple of years.

As far as the QB thing goes, if I'm OB, I'm asking myself two questions.
  1. Can I win with this guy?
    This goes back to the list of things OB said he is looking for in a QB. I think all but maybe four guys would fit.
  2. Can I win this year with this guy?
    I think five guys in this years draft answers yes here.

I'm sure he is asking himself the 1st question...doubt it about the 2nd question though b/c i don't think he realistically thinks he can win this year with this team as it is currently constructed. I'm basing this largely on the Fitzpatrick signing & the key releases we've had so far. If we wind up trading out of 1:1 with the Bills or whomever, that will confirm it in my mind.

From what I've heard about the draft I feel pretty good that at least two of the guys that answer yes to both questions will be there at the top of the second (which is basically a first round pick)...... it would be hard for me to draft a QB at the top of the draft just because "everybody" is talking about three of them.
Also, i don't think its so much as that people are talking about them as it is there not being that much of a difference between the 1st 3 and the next 2.
I don't necessarily agree, but then i'm a proponent of sitting your qb of the future for at least a year regardless...unless that qb of the future is Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck.
 

The Pencil Neck

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His can you be set on one specific 2nd rounder when you have no idea if that guy will get picked before your turn??
Everyone has pretty firm expectations about where certain guys are going to be drafted based on the needs of the teams drafting and the players available. All of these smokescreens and mirrors during the lead-up to the draft is teams' way of trying to throw the other teams off so they can get the guys they want when they want them.

So, heading into the draft, the Texans are going in with the guy they want at #1, then the list of guys they want at #2, then the list of guys they want at #3, etc. If they get the impression that the guy they want at a particular point isn't going to be there, then they'll trade up to make sure they get him.

So you target the guys you want in each round.

If you want a Garoppolo, you can be pretty sure he's going to be available in the 2nd round. There aren't that many teams drafting QBs and the ones that are are probably not going after Garoppolo in the first.

OTOH, we shouldn't be so sure this is Garoppolo. It could be Savage or Murray or McCarron (TK will be impossible to be around if that's the case) or Mettenberger or Boyd or... lots of different guys. And you can get those guys in the 3rd or 4th rounds if not later.
 

The Pencil Neck

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I think generally it is called a "reach."
I hate that term.

A "reach" is defined by drafting a guy way earlier than you need to.

Who determines whether someone is a reach? The media who's been creating mocks based on where they think guys should go and who should draft them.

The problem with this is that the Media doesn't know how each team's got their board constructed and where players are on those boards. To be able to call someone a reach, you have to know that they're not going to be drafted until 1+ rounds later. And there's no way to know that.

Just look at the CBS draft board vs. Walter Football's board. Walter Football has some guys ranked in the 3rd round that CBS Draft Board has in the 7th round or an UDFA.

All it takes if for a team to like a guy and decide they can't wait any more to take him. At that point, he's not a reach.
 

AcresHomesTexan

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I hate that term.

A "reach" is defined by drafting a guy way earlier than you need to.

Who determines whether someone is a reach? The media who's been creating mocks based on where they think guys should go and who should draft them.

The problem with this is that the Media doesn't know how each team's got their board constructed and where players are on those boards. To be able to call someone a reach, you have to know that they're not going to be drafted until 1+ rounds later. And there's no way to know that.

Just look at the CBS draft board vs. Walter Football's board. Walter Football has some guys ranked in the 3rd round that CBS Draft Board has in the 7th round or an UDFA.

All it takes if for a team to like a guy and decide they can't wait any more to take him. At that point, he's not a reach.
I was just being a smartace there...

Overall, fans and draftniks think that their speculation about the event is more important than the event itself. By the strictest definition the event (the draft) is cannot be wrong. There is no real reach or person who fell far or was drafted too early. Where the player is or is not drafted is the actual fact. What we do for 6 months is various level guessing from wild ass to fairly educated, but they are all guesses that normally prove wrong usually by pick 5 overall.
 

mussop

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Agreed. But for some reason it is acceptable to many who find reaching in the 1st unacceptable.
Depends on comparable talent available at each spot. None of these QB's are worth reaching for when compared to the other talent available at the top. Now in the second round that's a different story.
 

The Pencil Neck

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I was just being a smartace there...

Overall, fans and draftniks think that their speculation about the event is more important than the event itself. By the strictest definition the event (the draft) is cannot be wrong. There is no real reach or person who fell far or was drafted too early. Where the player is or is not drafted is the actual fact. What we do for 6 months is various level guessing from wild ass to fairly educated, but they are all guesses that normally prove wrong usually by pick 5 overall.
Exactly, Mr. Smartace.
 

Hottoddie

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I hate that term.

A "reach" is defined by drafting a guy way earlier than you need to.

Who determines whether someone is a reach? The media who's been creating mocks based on where they think guys should go and who should draft them.

The problem with this is that the Media doesn't know how each team's got their board constructed and where players are on those boards. To be able to call someone a reach, you have to know that they're not going to be drafted until 1+ rounds later. And there's no way to know that.

Just look at the CBS draft board vs. Walter Football's board. Walter Football has some guys ranked in the 3rd round that CBS Draft Board has in the 7th round or an UDFA.

All it takes if for a team to like a guy and decide they can't wait any more to take him. At that point, he's not a reach.
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
 

Hottoddie

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I was just being a smartace there...

Overall, fans and draftniks think that their speculation about the event is more important than the event itself. By the strictest definition the event (the draft) is cannot be wrong. There is no real reach or person who fell far or was drafted too early. Where the player is or is not drafted is the actual fact. What we do for 6 months is various level guessing from wild ass to fairly educated, but they are all guesses that normally prove wrong usually by pick 5 overall.
Mine usually prove wrong by pick 1. :toropalm:
 

infantrycak

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Now in the second round that's a different story.
Looks like the same story with a rationalization added to me.

For the record I am not hung up on "reaching" especially for a QB. In most drafts there are only 1-2 QBs who will turn out to be solid starters. If a team thinks they have identified one then draftniks be damned you do what is necessary to get that guy rather than settling for a different QB "in the same talent group" because they would be a "better value."
 

mussop

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Looks like the same story with a rationalization added to me.

For the record I am not hung up on "reaching" especially for a QB. In most drafts there are only 1-2 QBs who will turn out to be solid starters. If a team thinks they have identified one then draftniks be damned you do what is necessary to get that guy rather than settling for a different QB "in the same talent group" because they would be a "better value."
Yep and that same mentality has cost many gms their jobs. This "you have to take QB with the first pick because it's such an important position" is crap. If there isn't one good enough then there isn't one good enough. All you are doing by trying to force it is :rake:
 

thunderkyss

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Oh I think they do now, I think they've certainly got their collective mind set on what they want to do with their top pick. You know what you want to do don't you thunderkyss, what you want the Texans to do with their 1.1 right, so I'm sure they have their plan at this point.
I've been watching these guys for years. OB hasn't. & I've been as close to them as I'll ever be. I'd think he would want to see them in person, talk to them himself, before he makes up his mind. I know I would.

As far as the QB thing goes, if I'm OB, I'm asking myself two questions.
Can I win with this guy?
This goes back to the list of things OB said he is looking for in a QB. I think all but maybe four guys would fit.
Can I win this year with this guy?
I think five guys in this years draft answers yes here.

I'm sure he is asking himself the 1st question...doubt it about the 2nd question though b/c i don't think he realistically thinks he can win this year with this team as it is currently constructed. I'm basing this largely on the Fitzpatrick signing & the key releases we've had so far. If we wind up trading out of 1:1 with the Bills or whomever, that will confirm it in my mind.
The question isn't about the teams expectations, it's more about how far is he from being the guy he needs to be to start. Do I believe he's smart enough to pick up on our process quickly. Do I need tear down his mechanics & build them back up....

It's like if I want to make a blue car, molded out of clay. Do I have regular brown clay, or do I have yellow clay, green clay, or blue clay.... regardless which one I pick, it's not ready, it's still not a car. But I'm a lot closer if I pick the blue clay.
 

infantrycak

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Yep and that same mentality has cost many gms their jobs. This "you have to take QB with the first pick because it's such an important position" is crap. If there isn't one good enough then there isn't one good enough. All you are doing by trying to force it is :rake:
I said nothing about which pick. Since you can't understand what I wrote it casts doubt on your understanding my mentality much less that of gms.
 

thunderkyss

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In most drafts there are only 1-2 QBs who will turn out to be solid starters. If a team thinks they have identified one then draftniks be damned you do what is necessary to get that guy rather than settling for a different QB "in the same talent group" because they would be a "better value."
Nice job leaving off 95% of the reason.

In a draft like this, I think it would be foolish for any team to believe they have successfully identified the one or two QBs that will become a solid starter. I believe like OB said, there isn't a whole lot of separation between them. We've got guys who've consistently produced in big conferences, played well in big games, demonstrated the ability to make good decisions, manage a football game from the LOS, showed remarkable poise, have prototypical height, played for three years or more, made plays off schedule, rallied their teams from behind, been that rock the team can rely on..... but not all in the same guy.

They've all got a good mix of those qualities, some really strong in certain areas, weak in others, but an overall solid mix. Aaron Murray, who many people believe will be available in the 3rd round, some think 4th, has every bit as good a chance to be a solid starting QB in this league as Blake Bortles, or Derek Carr, both projected to be 1st round picks.

Now I do believe there is one guy who is head & shoulders above the rest, but nobody wants to talk about that, but I think we can all agree it would be awkward if we selected him with the #1 overall pick.

It's possible that OB feels the same way about Tom Savage, or Connor Shaw.

And you're leaving off the part about taking a player with the early pick who there is no comparison for in the later rounds, like Clowney, Robinson, Mack, or Watkins. Good players of better "value" maybe (for a RT per se)... but not the same caliber athlete. Not even close.
 

Ryan

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I think it would be a bold move but I would not mind seeing the Texans take Manziel at 1-1. The other two QBs I definitely believe are reaches at that spot, and Manziel could end up being the same way, but I believe he has the most potential to take the team where we want to go from the QB standpoint than any prospect we've had a chance at in a long time. I'm not going to be devastated if we took an overall more dynamic player like a Clowney/Mack/Watkins/Robinson, but I think Manziel would be the only QB worth the risk at 1-1.

You don't want to screw the first overall pick up, and it could end up costing you your job, but I think that holds true whether you take a QB or not.
 

infantrycak

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Nice job leaving off 95% of the reason.

And you're leaving off the part about taking a player with the early pick who there is no comparison for in the later rounds, like Clowney, Robinson, Mack, or Watkins. Good players of better "value" maybe (for a RT per se)... but not the same caliber athlete. Not even close.
I didn't leave off jack and you're being a troll now. I explained my reasoning on QBs. That is independent of how anyone else does it.

Do you believe the Texans should take a QB 1-1 and if so who?
I stake no claim to QB expertise so I am not wedded to any specific QBs in the draft or at any particular point. The top 3 all have different warts to me, but they all look worthy of consideration so I won't be upset if any of them are taken in the 1st. I am not big on late round (after the 3rd) QBs as anything more than backups. I like what I have seen from Murray and just slightly less Garoppalo - won't be upset if either of them is taken. Don't particularly like Metz and dislike McCarron. But my attitude on picking QBs is wholly dependent on the HC/GM in that order. If he thinks any of them is one of the 1-2 QBs who will end up being solid starters from this draft then take him where you have to and you won't hear me beotching about it. If he doesn't, I would rather see them pass than just take one to take one.

This is where I put one of your higher standards on the HC/GM. I expect them to have an opinion on who those 1-2 will be and not just go with the draftnik attitude of "well these three are close and then there are four close who may be available in the 2nd so let's picked from who is left at 2.1." Call your shot and you're using a bullet not a hand grenade.
 

mussop

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I said nothing about which pick.
Oh forgive me. I assumed when you said and I quote "In most drafts there are only 1-2 QBs who will turn out to be solid starters." that out of the whole draft if there were only 1 or 2 solid starting QB's, They would be early first round picks.

Since you can't understand what I wrote it casts doubt on your understanding my mentality much less that of gms.
Maybe your ability to explain is the problem.
 

infantrycak

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Oh forgive me. I assumed when you said and I quote "In most drafts there are only 1-2 QBs who will turn out to be solid starters." that out of the whole draft if there were only 1 or 2 solid starting QB's, They would be early first round picks.
Poor assumption. No apologies needed though.
 

mussop

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If he thinks any of them is one of the 1-2 QBs who will end up being solid starters from this draft then take him where you have to and you won't hear me beotching about it.

This is where I put one of your higher standards on the HC/GM. I expect them to have an opinion on who those 1-2 will be and not just go with the draftnik attitude of "well these three are close and then there are four close who may be available in the 2nd so let's picked from who is left at 2.1." Call your shot and you're using a bullet not a hand grenade.

Ok say OB has identified one of these future solid starting QB's. Where do you think he/they would be available? I mean we are talking about a solid future starting QB.
 

infantrycak

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Ok say OB has identified one of these future solid starting QB's. Where do you think he/they would be available? I mean we are talking about a solid future starting QB.
I don't know which ones he evaluates as a future solid starter.
 

badboy

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To be honest, everything BoB has said publicly about the qb's in this draft & our qb situation points to this. Every time someone asks him about 1 of the top 3, he always goes out of his way to mention a few of the other 2nd tier guys.

I honestly think he's looking past the 1st 3 guys unless 1 of them drops to around 25 or so.

I don't think Grapalo will be there. Someone's gonna reach & get him late in the 1st. My bet on the 2nd tier qb he's targeting is either Mettenberger or Savage. Mettenberger b/c there won't be any pressure there to put him in right away b/c of his late injury, but the potential is definitely there.

& prior to BoB mentioning him, I hadn't heard anything about a Tom Savage.....from anyone. Which tells me he's firmly entrenched as a 2nd round & below prospect that most likely will be there 2:1 when the texans come up.
I ain't no one but did mock Savage several months ago, great size & interesting story of changing colleges & did not play for one he did go to. Not a 1st or 2nd day selection and possibly a 7th or UDFA.

I do like Garoppolo in 2nd but think Manziel is 1-1 barring a trade.
 

steelbtexan

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I didn't leave off jack and you're being a troll now. I explained my reasoning on QBs. That is independent of how anyone else does it.



I stake no claim to QB expertise so I am not wedded to any specific QBs in the draft or at any particular point. The top 3 all have different warts to me, but they all look worthy of consideration so I won't be upset if any of them are taken in the 1st. I am not big on late round (after the 3rd) QBs as anything more than backups. I like what I have seen from Murray and just slightly less Garoppalo - won't be upset if either of them is taken. Don't particularly like Metz and dislike McCarron. But my attitude on picking QBs is wholly dependent on the HC/GM in that order. If he thinks any of them is one of the 1-2 QBs who will end up being solid starters from this draft then take him where you have to and you won't hear me beotching about it. If he doesn't, I would rather see them pass than just take one to take one.

This is where I put one of your higher standards on the HC/GM. I expect them to have an opinion on who those 1-2 will be and not just go with the draftnik attitude of "well these three are close and then there are four close who may be available in the 2nd so let's picked from who is left at 2.1." Call your shot and you're using a bullet not a hand grenade.
I agree with most of this except I think slightly higher of McCarron than you do.

The last paragraph I agree with, but say you have Garappolo rated highly but he's definitely not a 1-1 pick what do you do? You put a value on him, 20-25 IMHO and trade up to get him. I like Murray a lot too, more than 2 of the top 3.
 

leebigeztx

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When Kubes got walked out the building, mcclains insider info left too. He knew kubes from high school and kubes felt confident in throwing him a bone. With O'Brien, he has 0 inside touches. Not saying it won't be a 2nd or 3rd rd qb,but he's guessing like the rest of us.
 

infantrycak

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The last paragraph I agree with, but say you have Garappolo rated highly but he's definitely not a 1-1 pick what do you do? You put a value on him, 20-25 IMHO and trade up to get him.
That is what I am saying. Pick your guy and then make it happen.

When Kubes got walked out the building, mcclains insider info left too. He knew kubes from high school and kubes felt confident in throwing him a bone. With O'Brien, he has 0 inside touches. Not saying it won't be a 2nd or 3rd rd qb,but he's guessing like the rest of us.
McClain's insider info left with Casserly and the arrival of Kubiak. Kubiak has shown no affinity for McClain and McClain largely stopped even claiming "sources" within the Texans during Kubiak's tenure.
 

Lucky

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& prior to BoB mentioning him, I hadn't heard anything about a Tom Savage.....from anyone. Which tells me he's firmly entrenched as a 2nd round & below prospect that most likely will be there 2:1 when the texans come up.
I think that's safe to say. Seeing that Savage has had a mediocre collegiate career. And that's being free with the term "mediocre". Other than one monster game at Duke, Savage averaged 211 yards passing/game his senior year. Not exactly the caliber of player a new coach would be building around, I don't think.
 

mussop

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McClain's insider info left with Casserly and the arrival of Kubiak. Kubiak has shown no affinity for McClain and McClain largely stopped even claiming "sources" within the Texans during Kubiak's tenure.
This is correct. And McClain never claimed he got this via inside information. He was just repeating a conversation he had with a veteran scout. He totally disagrees with what the scout had to say. According to him! Obviously it all could be made up but seems a little far fetched that he would just make something up like this.

So if true this scout REALLY believes he knows who it is we are targeting at QB position. Wonder why????
 

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That is what I am saying. Pick your guy and then make it happen.



McClain's insider info left with Casserly and the arrival of Kubiak. Kubiak has shown no affinity for McClain and McClain largely stopped even claiming "sources" within the Texans during Kubiak's tenure.
If you remember, for years when McClain didn't have insight for what was going on with the Texans, he would throw out that he was technically covering the entire NFL for the Chronicle.....not focused on the Texans. Since he has admitted to being assigned to covering and being the main Texans writer, I have seen no improvement in his clairvoyance.
 
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