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Brian Gaine new Director of Pro Personnel
- Thread starter AcresHomesTexan
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HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I've read several good things about this guy on Twitter.
I also saw this chart from PFF. I've questioned the "talent" we supposedly have for a while now. I think we have a small corps of good players, including 2-3 elite players. We aren't surrounding them with much, imo.
This chart kinda shows what Gaine and crew have to work with
I also saw this chart from PFF. I've questioned the "talent" we supposedly have for a while now. I think we have a small corps of good players, including 2-3 elite players. We aren't surrounding them with much, imo.
This chart kinda shows what Gaine and crew have to work with
ThaShark316
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All this chart said was:I've read several good things about this guy on Twitter.
I also saw this chart from PFF. I've questioned the "talent" we supposedly have for a while now. I think we have a small corps of good players, including 2-3 elite players. We aren't surrounding them with much, imo.
This chart kinda shows what Gaine and crew have to work with
Wade got too much credit for Watt, not HARDLY enough criticism for other picks.
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TheIronDuke
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I think that chart is pretty good and telling. The only thing I would change is that I think Mercilus is far superior to Brooks Reed, who should be bright red along with McCain, and I think it's hard to tell about Swearinger though I think he'll turn out to be a red after this season.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
How does Wade get too much credit for Watt?
Of course I've got to be the outlier.
I don't think our talent is that bad... I think we're closer to where we thought we were when "we" thought "we" were a Super Bowl contender.
Winning cures a whole lot of sht..... players we think are poor, will probably still be considered poor. Passable players may become "elite"
I'm with McNair, we're closer to 11-5 in 2014 than 2-14. The right coach & the right QB.... & a little bit of luck.
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That's a damned fine question; where is Antonio Smiff??
Edit:
...The assumption, I guess, is we will be letting him walk. I notice Wade Smith and Ben Tate are not listed either.
Can we get to other teams' diagrams? I'd like to see how the rest of the division projects...
Editing the Edit...
Back to topic: What the hell is this guy supposed to be responsible for anywho??
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kiwitexansfan
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Pretty sure he is the guy who assesses the Texans roster and the other players already in the NFL who might be available.
Basically this guy says who we should keep and who we should sign in FA.
So does this mean Bobby Greier is no longer with the org?
If so, it's about time.
If so, it's about time.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Unfortunately, nope...
Bobby Grier Senior Personnel Advisor
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/front-office.html
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
As someone who's color blind, this chart isn't helping me much.I've read several good things about this guy on Twitter.
I also saw this chart from PFF. I've questioned the "talent" we supposedly have for a while now. I think we have a small corps of good players, including 2-3 elite players. We aren't surrounding them with much, imo.
This chart kinda shows what Gaine and crew have to work with
:vincepalm:
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I'm wondering who made this hire/how it went down... 
Gaine has received some looks at being a GM and is pretty respected around the league as a scout, although I think he's a height, weight, speed guy.
And then this little nugget: Brian Gaine used to play for Kirk Ferentz at Iowa -- we all know OB flirted w/Ferentz's son Brian weeks ago.
With Gaine being in the Parcells/Belichick/Crennel tree I wonder how much input Rick was given on this?
Gaine has received some looks at being a GM and is pretty respected around the league as a scout, although I think he's a height, weight, speed guy.
And then this little nugget: Brian Gaine used to play for Kirk Ferentz at Iowa -- we all know OB flirted w/Ferentz's son Brian weeks ago.
With Gaine being in the Parcells/Belichick/Crennel tree I wonder how much input Rick was given on this?
Not a problem, here ya go...
Sucks ...errr, "Poor Starter"
- D. Newton, OT
Below Avg --> Adequate
- M. Schaub, QB
- D. Posey, WR
- B. Jones, OG
- W. Mercilus, ROLB
- J. Crick, DE
- B. McCain, DB
- E. Mitchell, NT
- B. Reed, LOLB
- D. Swearinger, SS
Adequate --> Solid Starter
- R. Griffen, TE
- O. Daniels, TE
- K. Jackson, CB
Solid --> High Quality Role Player
- D. Hopkins, WR
- B. Brooks, OG
- A. Foster, RB
High Quality or Elite (*)
- A. Johnson, WR*
- J. J. Watt, DL*
- D. Brown, OT
- B. Cushing, ILB
- C. Myers, OC
- J. Joseph, CB
Edit:
Forgot J.J.'s Elite asterisk and put Foster in a higher category than the article did.
WolverineFan
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Chart really puts things into perspective. Would love to see how our depth adds up against other teams as well. IMO, the results would be just as bad or worse.
Have we had a "Director of Pro Personnel" in the past?
The team was 2-14 for a reason.
No depth at CB/LB/DL was a big reason.
Rick didn't like that Wade played the starters too much. But with no depth he had little choice.
Is that Rick or Wade's fault? Probably a combination of both.
CloakNNNdagger
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Bobby Grier essentially carried same responsibilities with just a different fancy title Senior Personnel Advisor
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Your wish is granted.
Looks like it will be a regular feature, the Texans were first because we are the worst.
drs23
Veteran
Yes. His name was Brian Gardner.
Now his name is Toast. Gone. See ya.
Edit: If Doc's post is correct these guys fubard.
That's really cool, man. Thanks for posting it.I've read several good things about this guy on Twitter.
I also saw this chart from PFF. I've questioned the "talent" we supposedly have for a while now. I think we have a small corps of good players, including 2-3 elite players. We aren't surrounding them with much, imo.
This chart kinda shows what Gaine and crew have to work with
Just curious to the general forum, why isn't Duane Brown considered elite? He's often referred to as one of the best LTs in the league.
drs23
Veteran
That caught my eye as well. I figured it was because Duane had a down season because of the turf toe gig he was dealing with and according to Doc, that's pretty tough to shake. I HOPE he's back to the ol' #76 next season.
And so does Theodore.
infantrycak
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That was my take as well. Hopefully he returns to form.
Mine as well. This is why we should consider a OT with a high pick. He can start at RT and if Brown continues this decline can become his eventual replacement. I would not be surprised to see two OTs taken in this draft. Our OL and defensive front seven should dominate this draft.
aussie_texan
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every time i see this guys name i read it as blaine gabbert. not a good omen.
infantrycak
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Brown was hampered by an injury.
kiwitexansfan
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I'd rather Blaine Gabbert be my Director of Pro Personnel than my starting QB.
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Yes, injury hurt DB's performance in 2013 as he rated 22nd/76 OTs overall (>25% team snaps).
He was rated 5th in 2011 and 2nd in 2012. Browns second half of 2013 was much better than his first, and he only had two poor games -- one being awful vs. SD week 1.
Brown spent most of his time covering for Wade Smith's bad play. Then suffered turf toe and Brown still wasn't terrible.
Coming off of a back injury I would be happy with an avg Foster.
imatexan
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beerlover
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Interesting side not the Atlanta Falcons hired Pioli as Assistant GM of the Falcons on January 22, 2014. He is reuniting with current GM Thomas Dimitroff after previously working together for years in the Patriots organization.
Anyways see Gaine as still young with a bright future from something near & dear to my heat, actually being scout, it all comes down to player evaluation. Rick is so smooth in his delivery, has had his share of hits & probably gets a pass since he was just doing Gary's bidding but Brian Gaine has an excellent opportunity to move higher if powers that be decide its time to cut completely fresh & start a new slate. Politics won't save anyone on this side of the business only results.
Anyways see Gaine as still young with a bright future from something near & dear to my heat, actually being scout, it all comes down to player evaluation. Rick is so smooth in his delivery, has had his share of hits & probably gets a pass since he was just doing Gary's bidding but Brian Gaine has an excellent opportunity to move higher if powers that be decide its time to cut completely fresh & start a new slate. Politics won't save anyone on this side of the business only results.
Hope you're right BL.Interesting side not the Atlanta Falcons hired Pioli as Assistant GM of the Falcons on January 22, 2014. He is reuniting with current GM Thomas Dimitroff after previously working together for years in the Patriots organization.
Anyways see Gaine as still young with a bright future from something near & dear to my heat, actually being scout, it all comes down to player evaluation. Rick is so smooth in his delivery, has had his share of hits & probably gets a pass since he was just doing Gary's bidding but Brian Gaine has an excellent opportunity to move higher if powers that be decide its time to cut completely fresh & start a new slate. Politics won't save anyone on this side of the business only results.
Something tell me the good ole boy network will survive.
Bobby Greir/Coach Joe/David Gibbs etc..... Heck even Rick still has a job.
Hervoyel
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Oh yes there is. Last season he was hurt and he had surgery on his back. There's a significant chance that we may never see the Arian Foster we think of as a "high quality starter" again. There's also plenty of reason to hope we will.
It's still up in the air whether last season was an aberration or the first year in his inevitable decline. After the 2005 season plenty of people thought Dominck Williams (Davis) was a high quality starter too. He never played again.
Just got to wait and see. I thought they were generous and mostly optimistic in rating him a solid starter in light of the circumstances.
Right now, I don't even know if Foster will return to his previous level of performance.
or even scarier - to me anyway - if he'll return at all...
Edit: Didn't see Herv's reply. He has the same worries I do on the subject.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Agree with your overall post, but just going to point out even hampered last year his ypc was the highest its been since 2010.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
So is it a mistake that Earl Mitchell's included in this, or is there some reason I'm not aware of that he's not going to be an URFA come March 11th?
HOU-TEX
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I reckon it's a mistake. He'll be an UFA in exactly 4 weeks
He might be a semi hot commodity from what Caplan's tweeted
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Yes, fixed.
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TheIronDuke
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How is Arian Foster dinged down to solid starter because of injuries but Cushing, who is way more injury-prone, isn't? I'd downgrade Cushing for sure.
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Foster was rated 34th/59 RBs in 2012 and 23rd/55 in injury-shortened 2013. (>25% team snaps)
Key:
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- Red player names suggest injury risks.
imatexan
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Foster was far better than Domanick Williams ever was.
That is kind of the point I am getting at, just because he is injured one season ,as many players in football are, suddenly he is average with disregard to his level of talent.