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Texans security guards fired for taking photo with Tom Brady

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-guards-fired-for-taking-photo-with-tom-brady

Two security guards working Sunday's Patriots-Texans game at Reliant Stadium say they were fired after taking a picture with quarterback Tom Brady following New England's 34-31 victory.

“When you are at your post and you're doing your job, you're not supposed to take pictures with anybody because your job is to secure that area,” Joel Williams told KHOU.com on Monday.

“I said, ‘Hey Tom Brady, good job, good game man.' He looked at me and smiled,” Williams said. “He was very polite, very nice guy, humble. Sometimes I see players and say hello, and they just keep walking.”

Brady and Williams took a photo together and that's when things took a turn for the worst.

“Immediately after I took the picture, I got ran down by a supervisor,” Williams said. “They didn't' really give a reason, they said you know you're wrong and you're fired."
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Wow, I don't see the big deal, but obviously security guard supervisor does. idonno:
 
They were employees of Contemporary Services Corporation, not the Texans.

“It is strictly against CSC policy for its employees to request photos or autographs from players,” CSC told KHOU 11 in a statement. “CSC stands by its decision to terminate the two employees who violated this policy.”
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They knew the policy, rolled the dice, and will now probably sue CSC. Good luck to them.
 
Double Barrel said:
I understand that, but dude claims he was off duty.
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Title says "Texans", just clarifying.

How did they get access to Brady? If they were in a secured area they used their position to get star-shots. If they ran into Tom on the streets, no biggie. I'm sure some smart lawyer will take a third of their action.
 
disaacks3 said:
Does the policy apply when you're off-the-clock? That'll be a big question either at their unemployment hearing, or for McNair to consider. (If he calls CSC, they'd capitulate)
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My employee handbook says that if I am still in uniform, even when off duty, I am representing.
 
Playoffs said:
Title says "Texans", just clarifying.

How did they get access to Brady? If they were in a secured area they used their position to get star-shots. If they ran into Tom on the streets, no biggie. I'm sure some smart lawyer will take a third of their action.
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DBCooper said:
My employee handbook says that if I am still in uniform, even when off duty, I am representing.
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ahhh, both good points. I don't have a dog in this hunt, so hope his picture with Brady was worth it. :photos:
 
chicagotexan2 said:
Did they post the pics online? Why? If so, then that was dumb.
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According to the article, they were fired on the spot. The pictures became public after the fact.

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Guy in the picture said his shift was over.

Who knows...
 
DBCooper said:
My employee handbook says that if I am still in uniform, even when off duty, I am representing.
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True, but that's historically been non-enforceable when there is no foreseeable harm in the employee action.

Good guidelines from a law firm at the Link

I'm fully with CSC (and their policies) during the paid shift hours. I'm also cognizant of the fact that due to their positions, these officers had access unavailable to the general public. That said, it's not their fault that they don't sign out from their shift in an unsecured area.
 
disaacks3 said:
True, but that's historically been non-enforceable when there is no foreseeable harm in the employee action.

Good guidelines from a law firm at the Link

I'm fully with CSC (and their policies) during the paid shift hours. I'm also cognizant of the fact that due to their positions, these officers had access unavailable to the general public. That said, it's not their fault that they don't sign out from their shift in an unsecured area.
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True, but i worked for the astros in their retail store for a little bit & we got the same speech. If players came into the store, no taking pics or asking for autographs & crap like that....mostly it was about bothering the players & or causing a scene with other fans...but it was also for authentication purposes and things of that nature.
 
another disgusting act by this texan front office.

I bet you anything if the texans won this game and they did the same thing, they would not have been fired. They were made a scapegoat just like the 3 guys who were smoking in the bathroom.

Total overreaction by the front office instituting once again, draconian zero tolerance policies.

Taking out your frustrations for your sorry season on security guards after taking it out on young players is a sad and pathetic act by this team.
 
Lord Bills said:
another disgusting act by this texan front office.

I bet you anything if the texans won this game and they did the same thing, they would not have been fired. They were made a scapegoat just like the 3 guys who were smoking in the bathroom.

Total overreaction by the front office instituting once again, draconian zero tolerance policies.

Taking out your frustrations for your sorry season on security guards after taking it out on young players is a sad and pathetic act by this team.
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Did you read anything in this thread at all before you posted? This wasn't anything to do with the Texans FO other than they had input in what company they hired.
 
Lord Bills said:
another disgusting act by this texan front office.

I bet you anything if the texans won this game and they did the same thing, they would not have been fired. They were made a scapegoat just like the 3 guys who were smoking in the bathroom.

Total overreaction by the front office instituting once again, draconian zero tolerance policies.

Taking out your frustrations for your sorry season on security guards after taking it out on young players is a sad and pathetic act by this team.
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Well it seems you can't read
 
I really don't see why this is that much of a story, but then again, everything is a story this year if the Texans are even remotely involved.

If the security staff don't have the presence of mind to leave these guys alone, then the company is well within their rights to institute a policy. These guys are at work. It's not like these guys are seeing Tom Brady at a bar when they're off-duty. Then, he's fair game IMO. Good luck getting to him.

If they haven't been enforcing the policy, then the Texans should find another company to provide security. Seems to me that this could be considered a breach of contract.

Speaking of legalese, Texas is an "at-will" state anyway, so he could have gotten fired because his shoes didn't match his belt. Also, if this guy was in fact off-duty, then he should have taken off his badge. Then he's just a short guy in a blue suit.

I'll be surprised if anything comes of this.
 
Exascor said:
Did you read anything in this thread at all before you posted? This wasn't anything to do with the Texans FO other than they had input in what company they hired.
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yes i did. it also said their shift was finished. it also said that a lot of employees take photos with athletes and celebrities.

Do you always believe what you read?

You have to read between the lines and go through the BS and figure out stuff for yourselves. You have to learn how to sniff out BS garbage like "its company policy."

They were fired because the team was still angry over the loss and they see their own security guards taking pics with the guy who just kicked their asses and they got mad, took it out on lowly security guards and fired them.

Learn how to sniff out company line BS.

This is one of them.

SAD, VINDICTIVE, PATHETIC MOVE BY THIS FRANCHISE.
 
disaacks3 said:
True, but that's historically been non-enforceable when there is no foreseeable harm in the employee action.

Good guidelines from a law firm at the Link

I'm fully with CSC (and their policies) during the paid shift hours. I'm also cognizant of the fact that due to their positions, these officers had access unavailable to the general public. That said, it's not their fault that they don't sign out from their shift in an unsecured area.
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One of the first slides say conduct outside of the workplace and this was not outside the workplace. Further I'd say if you employment is what gave you the access to Brady and your employer says not to do something you should probably avoid it at your place of work
 
Lord Bills said:
yes i did. it also said their shift was finished. it also said that a lot of employees take photos with athletes and celebrities.

Do you always believe what you read?

You have to read between the lines and go through the BS and figure out stuff for yourselves. You have to learn how to sniff out BS garbage like "its company policy."

They were fired because the team was still angry over the loss and they see their own security guards taking pics with the guy who just kicked their asses and they got mad, took it out on lowly security guards and fired them.

Learn how to sniff out company line BS.

This is one of them.

SAD, VINDICTIVE, PATHETIC MOVE BY THIS FRANCHISE.
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These folks weren't employed or terminated by the texans smart guy.
 
Lord Bills said:
yes i did. it also said their shift was finished. it also said that a lot of employees take photos with athletes and celebrities.

Do you always believe what you read?

You have to read between the lines and go through the BS and figure out stuff for yourselves. You have to learn how to sniff out BS garbage like "its company policy."

They were fired because the team was still angry over the loss and they see their own security guards taking pics with the guy who just kicked their asses and they got mad, took it out on lowly security guards and fired them.

Learn how to sniff out company line BS.

This is one of them.

SAD, VINDICTIVE, PATHETIC MOVE BY THIS FRANCHISE.
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You aren't "reading between the lines" you are making up facts based on nothing but misfiring brain cells.
 
Lord Bills said:
OMG are you people serious?

You dont think the team who employs the security guards dont have a say in matters?

:vincepalm::toropalm::mariopalm::kubepalm::wadepalm::facepalm:
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A csc supervisor saw the event take place and terminated the employees on the spot. I'm sure the texans had no say in it. CSC provides the services for the rodeo and I'm sure their policy is the same for those entertainers and no the texans don't have a say if they term an employee


You aren't very bright
 
2012Champs said:
A csc supervisor saw the event take place and terminated the employees on the spot. I'm sure the texans had no say in it. CSC provides the services for the rodeo and I'm sure their policy is the same for those entertainers and no the texans don't have a say if they term an employee


You aren't very bright
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yea keep believing everything you read.

Because if its in the newspaper or the internet it must be true right?

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btw, im a pharmacy major and i own my own compounding comany.

I can confidently say im smarter, better looking, and more successful than you will ever be.

:swatter:
 
Lord Bills said:
yea keep believing everything you read.

Because if its in the newspaper or the internet it must be true right?

state-farm-french-model.jpg


btw, im a pharmacy major and i own my own compounding comany.

I can confidently say im smarter, better looking, and more successful than you will ever be.

:swatter:
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You can't accurately measure any of the 3 things you listed. That said there must be a strong disconnect between your "book smarts" and real life. It's not about the newspaper or internet but more about common sense
 
Lord Bills said:
yea keep believing everything you read.

Because if its in the newspaper or the internet it must be true right?

btw, im a pharmacy major and i own my own compounding comany.

I can confidently say im smarter, better looking, and more successful than you will ever be.

:swatter:
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Is this you Mr Bill?
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Lord Bills said:
yea keep believing everything you read.

Because if its in the newspaper or the internet it must be true right?

state-farm-french-model.jpg


btw, im a pharmacy major and i own my own compounding comany.

I can confidently say im smarter, better looking, and more successful than you will ever be.

:swatter:
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You Sir are the definition of a moron.
 
Lord Bills said:
yea keep believing everything you read.

Because if its in the newspaper or the internet it must be true right?

state-farm-french-model.jpg


btw, im a pharmacy major and i own my own compounding comany.

I can confidently say im smarter, better looking, and more successful than you will ever be.

:swatter:
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JB said:
Sure seems to be a lot of personal attacks and general asshattery going on in Texans Talk these days...
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There sure is, JB. I'm not sure where some of them came from, but there are a handful of new one's that sure seem like they know all.
 
2012Champs said:
One of the first slides say conduct outside of the workplace and this was not outside the workplace. Further I'd say if you employment is what gave you the access to Brady and your employer says not to do something you should probably avoid it at your place of work
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You still need to show potential damage to your company or reputation as at least one was off the clock. If anything, I'll bet this ham-fisted move backfires and costs them $$$.

Lord Bills said:
OMG are you people serious?

You dont think the team who employs the security guards dont have a say in matters?

:vincepalm::toropalm::mariopalm::kubepalm::wadepalm::facepalm:
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Fired on the spot? No. Could they have a hand going forward or on potential reinstatement? Yes.
 
PapaL said:
I wear my lanyard at lunch and in the car. Doesn't mean I'm at work or on shift.
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It might if you are smoking a doobie in you car with a underage hooker doing the up and down while she drinks from a bottle of Crown. I think anything portraying employer negatively could be grounds for discipline including termination. :kitten:
 
disaacks3 said:
You still need to show potential damage to your company or reputation as at least one was off the clock. If anything, I'll bet this ham-fisted move backfires and costs them $$$.

Fired on the spot? No. Could they have a hand going forward or on potential reinstatement? Yes.
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I can't drink at work off the clock. Drinking on site is against company policy sure seems like a similar situation could apply for CSC. The CSC employees only had access to Brady through their CSCemployment and the fact that they were working at reliant that day. They used their employment status as a means to do something that broke company policy, I'm not sure that on the clock matters
 
badboy said:
It might if you are smoking a doobie in you car with a underage hooker doing the up and down while she drinks from a bottle of Crown. I think anything portraying employer negatively could be grounds for discipline including termination. :kitten:
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I work for the Federal Government so I might get a promotion. :barman:
 
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