htownfan32
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1870774-kevin-sumlin-and-texas-am-agree-to-6-year-deal
So, I heard USC was better than TAMU?
So, I heard USC was better than TAMU?
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Sumlin agrees to 6 year deal with TAMU
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Texian
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It may be but the PAC12 is not better than the SEC. Did A&M get Franchione'ed AGAIN? but this time A&M will have Franchione'ed A&M.
Texian
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Consider the sources. If true, the only good news derived from this is McNair would be considering college coaches and that would mean David Shaw and Jimbo Fisher could be in play.
TexansSeminole
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That's great for TAMU.
Dan B.
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USC has been pretty good under Orgeron. Wouldn't surprise me if they stick with him, especially if they beat UCLA.
revan
Waterboy
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
He'll be out of A&M in two years. Book it.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Maybe... But it certainly won't be USC. That said, it's pretty dumb to say "book it" when you don't know the man, his family and his heart are at. Maybe in a year and a half A&M ups the ante even more. You never know.
Than again, maybe you're right but again it's dumb to assume "book it"!
Texecutioner
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That's my prediction. I think he is a little foolish not to "cash in" now with the up coming off season while he is one of if not the hottest name on the market for college football coaches. Hell, some are even considering him for the NFL when he has literally no experience at all, and very little as a HC of a big time program. Manziel leaves this off season and he possibly have a down year or two. Who knows. If he has a less than spectacular season or two, his popularity as a hot coaching candidate will die rather quickly just like it does with a lot of HC's. I'm actually pretty surprised that he's not cashing in while the gettin is good.
I don't have the know the man either. I can make assumptions based on history and what I've seen tons of coaches do in similar situations. Texas A&M isn't some program that HC's are dying to be at, nor is it a program that I feel like Sumlin will embrace to the point that he'll keep passing up on other gigs with higher profile jobs. Could I be wrong? Sure, but I don't see Sumlin being there pass the next two seasons.
bah007
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Looks to me like Sumlin did cash in. That's what the extension is. He's just cashing in at A&M instead of USC.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Talk to me in two years. He won't be there. I heard Longhorn fans say the same thing when I told them Muschamp would leave soon if he didn't become the HC at Texas. He wasn't going to keep turning down big opportunities and he didn't. Sumlin won't either if he continues to have success. He'll just continue to build his price tag and will look for greener pastures.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Don't disagree with you. Just disagree with the assertion that he didn't use his newfound popularity to cash in.
He may not have upgraded to a better job, but he did manage to squeeze some more cash out of A&M.
Playoffs
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Which pasture is greener than the SEC's?
Texian
Hall of Fame
I'm not sure he will be a hot commodity in two years. His goose that laid his golden egg will have been long gone and his defense stinks.
FirstTexansFan
The Unknown Fan
That's my issue, I believe he has a plug and play offense, and they'll find a quarterback to run the system successfully. But if he continues with the type of defense he's brought so far, and it goes back to his time at UofH, they'll be also rans.
texanhead08
All Pro
Sumlin's agent is good at keeping his name out there whether he really would consider leaving A&M is anyones guess. It was like that at UH and it finally got to the point where he out priced UH's budget. Its just less likely it will happen at A&M because they have very deep pockets.
htownfan32
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He doesn't run the defense. Mark Snyder does, and the defense held up pretty well against a solid Mizzou team. A&M just could not capitalize on the offensive side when they needed to. This last defensive performance probably would have won us the Alabama and Auburn games.
Our pass rushers are mostly freshmen, with the exception of Gavin Stansbury. Isaiah Golden, Justin Manning and Daeshon Hall are not yet conditioned to the point where they can compete with the big SEC O-lines. We have a 5 star pass rusher coming in and one of the best LBs in the state in Hoza Scott (if he meets academic standards). Jordan Mastrogiovanni will step up at LB next year and Darian Claiborne is easily one of the better LBs in the SEC and he's just a freshman.
Two years. My senior year A&M makes a run at the SEC title.
FirstTexansFan
The Unknown Fan
I know who the head coach is, and I know what a crap defense he had at UofH... if he doesn't fix this hole, they will not have any success. The defense is the reason they are not in the top ten now, Manziel can only do so much, and next year we don't have him.
htownfan32
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I know who the head coach is, and I know what a crap defense he had at UofH... if he doesn't fix this hole, they will not have any success. The defense is the reason they are not in the top ten now, Manziel can only do so much, and next year we don't have him.
The defense will get better. Next year they should be much better. The freshmen will improve and this is a young, young defense. They've shown more signs of life recently than in the first half of the season.
Mr teX
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It is....the only real reason this happened, imo of course..is b/c the AD at USC has been non-commital and very secretive about whether or not he wants to keep Orgeron. I think if he goes ahead, puts it out there that the job will indeed be open after the season and and he wants to interview sumlin, i think his agent holds off the extension talk with A&M...at least until after talking with USC.
Plus too, i think he knows there's gonna be no shortage of capable candidates if he's willing to go as high as 6 million......
I personally think he's got his eye on someone from the NFL....someone with credibility that is.
bah007
Hall of Fame
I'm hearing that USC's list is this, in order:
1. Chris Petersen, Boise St
2. James Franklin, Vanderbilt
3. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M
4. Ed Orgeron, interim
Preemptive strike by A&M to lock up Sumlin but it might not have even been necessary. Petersen might conceivably turn down the job due to family reasons but Franklin would jump at it if he really is the #2 option.
1. Chris Petersen, Boise St
2. James Franklin, Vanderbilt
3. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M
4. Ed Orgeron, interim
Preemptive strike by A&M to lock up Sumlin but it might not have even been necessary. Petersen might conceivably turn down the job due to family reasons but Franklin would jump at it if he really is the #2 option.
WolverineFan
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I've heard the same. After the UCLA game, it's basically Petersen and Franklin with Orgeron as a fallback.
I like Petersen, but I don't see the culture fit at USC. He'd be better off at Nebraska. Franklin would definitely jump at the job if offered.
Texian
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Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe 5m
Boise State's Chris Petersen has withdrawn from USC coaching search after mutual interest.
bah007
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Thanks for the update. I'm not surprised. It's gonna be tough to get him away from Boise with his family situation.
Dutchrudder
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So Bob McNair runs A&M too? Didn't know that...
Rewarding mediocrity is not the way to build a program. I can understand extending him, but 5 million a year, and he hasn't won a conference yet? C'mon man!
Rewarding mediocrity is not the way to build a program. I can understand extending him, but 5 million a year, and he hasn't won a conference yet? C'mon man!
WolverineFan
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Yep that's what I've heard as well. Word is Petersen turned down the job despite some mutual interest (which texian alluded to earlier ITT) and USC turned to James Franklin (Vanderbilt). They told him he had to keep Ed Orgeron on the staff so he said no thanks. Sarkisian agreed to retain Orgeron so he got the job.
Just rumors I've heard so far, no links. Take it with a grain of salt.
EDIT: Apparently Sark isn't keeping Orgeron on staff and hiring him was a desperate move by USC to get someone in with USC ties after all of their top options turned them down.
Who knows what to believe...
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BTW, how did you like Sumlin calling a TO with 2:00 left and then deciding to punt. I was like, the Ags deserve this guy. Cant do simple math and makes terrible decisions under pressure.
Sumlin is the college version of Gary. All offense, no defense in addition to the above.
Dutchrudder
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It was very Kubiak-esque. You have a 4th and 13, with JFF and Mike Evans, and you don't go for it? With our defense? C'mon man...
htownfan32
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This pissed me off to no end. Our defense won't be competitive until a year or two. I'm expecting a meh year next and a decent year after.
2012Champs
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htownfan32
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Alabama, Texas, LSU, Florida, Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Penn State, not in any specific order.
2012Champs
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I think it would actually take the number 3 spot and the others could slide down with Penn dropping off the list altogether. Im not sure why USC has fallen off the list of top coaching jobs on this forum but I dont think that is an overall opinion of those who follow cfb
htownfan32
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Ian Rapoport has reported that Sumlin could still potentially leave for the Texans if he is given an offer.
If Sumlin leaves and you all were the ADs of Texas A&M, who would you hire as coach? Ed Orgeron, maybe?
If Sumlin leaves and you all were the ADs of Texas A&M, who would you hire as coach? Ed Orgeron, maybe?
Pollardized
Division Champ
You know who would be instantly rumored? Kubiak....
htownfan32
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I hope not :kubepalm:
Pollardized
Division Champ
Me too. As an Aggie fan that would be a nightmare to me. Orgeron would be a good interview.
WolverineFan
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If Sumlin leaves and you all were the ADs of Texas A&M, who would you hire as coach?
Chad Morris
Chad Morris
The NCAA is hypocrytical, Raping of a child screams lack of institutional control.
The Penn St. program should've been shut down instead of getting a slap on the wrist.
The Penn St. program should've been shut down instead of getting a slap on the wrist.
bhsman
Rookie
Why should the players be punished for something some dumb old men did? The NCAA getting involved beyond the criminal investigation was a terrible decision.
htownfan32
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Morris is an Aggie, and a good OC to boot.
Dutchrudder
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Nick Saban, duh.
WolverineFan
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He has Aggie roots, is considered a young up and coming coordinator who will be a future HC (much like Kingsbury was), and could maintain continuity on offense because he runs a similar system.