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Quarterback Draft

If Texans go QB with #1

  • Teddy Bridgewater - Louisville

    Votes: 52 64.2%

  • Marcus Mariota - Oregon

    Votes: 5 6.2%

  • Johnny Manziel - Texas A&M

    Votes: 5 6.2%

  • Derek Carr - Fresno St.

    Votes: 7 8.6%

  • Tajh Boyd - Clemson

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Zach Mettenberger - LSU

    Votes: 5 6.2%

  • AJ McCarron - Alabama

    Votes: 5 6.2%
  • Total voters
    81
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If the Texans select a QB with their first pick, which could very well be the #1 overall pick. Who should they select?
 
Teddy Bridgewater*, QB, Louisville
Height: 6-3. Weight: 218.
Projected 40 Time: 4.62.
Projected Round (2014): Top-10 Pick.
11/23/13: Bridgewater's status is holding steady as the No. 1 quarterback prospect and likely No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft. He has completed 71 percent of his passes this year for 3,048 yards with 24 touchdowns and three interceptions.

Bridgewater is simply putting on passing clinics this season. He has hung tough to deliver passes in the face of pass rush, showed mobility on rollouts, demonstrated good arm strength and been scarily accurate. Bridgewater has played well on third downs, too. He has shown great poise in the pocket on a number of throws and is patient enough to let his receivers work themselves open. Bridgewater seems utterly unstoppable.
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Bridgewater has an excellent physical skill set. He possesses pure passing ability with some running ability to hurt defenses on the ground. The junior has a strong arm and with natural accuracy. Bridgewater is still developing physically and mentally. He could turn into a special player.
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Personal: Sports administration major, son of Rose Murphy.
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Marcus Mariota**, QB, Oregon
Height: 6-4. Weight: 218.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65.
Projected Round (2014): Top-10 Pick.
11/23/13: Mariota has been dominant this season and is proving to be an elite quarterback prospect. The redshirt sophomore has completed 64 percent of his passes in 2013 for 2,819 yards with 25 touchdowns and zero interceptions. On the ground, he's run for 600 yards (477 net) with nine touchdowns.

Mariota has a strong arm, size and excellent mobility. As a passer, he can do it all, he but could use some refinement in his mechanics and footwork. Mariota has been a dominant point-machine since taking over as Oregon's starting quarterback.
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Personal: From Hawaii. Majoring in human physiology. Son of Toa Mariota and Alana-Deppe-Mariota.
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Johnny Manziel**, QB, Texas A&M
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
Projected Round (2014): 1.
11/23/13: The sophomore has completed 73 percent of his passes this year for 3,313 yards with 31 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. He's run for 743 yards (611 net) with eight scores, too. While Manziel's running ability gets a lot of attention, he is showing that his passing skills are improved and underrated.

Manziel's footwork, accuracy, ball placement and field vision also look better this season; his instincts are off the charts. He always seems to be a step ahead of the defense.
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Manziel has a good arm and accuracy for a pro prospect, but will need to continue to develop his ability to be a pocket passer. Specifically, Manziel needs to improve his footwork and become more uniform with his feet and throwing mechanics. Obviously, Manziel has great mobility. He is so dangerous when he is on the run with the threat to keep it himself or pass the ball. Alabama's 2012 defense, comprised of NFL talent, lost at home to Manziel as he put up almost 350 yards of total offense.
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Personal: Business major, son of Michelle and Paul Manziel.
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Brett Hundley**, QB, UCLA
Height: 6-3. Weight: 227.
Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
Projected Round (2014): 1.
11/23/13: Hundley has completed 68 percent of his passes this year for 2,384 yards with 20 touchdowns and eight interceptions. He led a furious comeback for a huge road win at Nebraska. Against Oregon, Hundley completed 13-of-19 passes for 64 yards with a touchdown and two interceptions. He ran for 72 yards on 15 carries and a score as well. Hundley needs to improve on his decision-making and patience, but he played better than those numbers indicate.

Hundley didn't play very well when Stanford topped UCLA. He completed 24-of-39 passes for 192 yards with a touchdown and two interceptions. The second pick wasn't his fault as his receiver fell down. Hundley could use some refinement and should probably return for his junior season, but there rumors that he will declare for the 2014 NFL Draft.
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The UCLA coaching staff has a lot of NFL experience and is grooming Hundley well for the next level. He fits in the mold of athletic quarterbacks with good arms. Hundley has room for improvement, but he has the potential to rise high into the first round.

Personal: Undeclared major. Son of Brett, Sr. and April Hundley.
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Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
11/23/13: Carr has been tremendous in carrying Fresno State to an undefeated record thus far in the 2013 season. He was clutch in the fourth quarter and overtime to push his team to wins over Rutgers and Boise State. The senior has been phenomenal in his decision-making while showing a strong arm with good field vision.

In 2013, Carr has completed 70 percent of his passes for 3,421 yards with 32 touchdowns and four interceptions. It looks like is playing seven-on-seven football with the way he threads the ball in all levels of the defense and takes what the defenders are giving him. Carr is dominating a weak level of competition.
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Carr has a strong arm and good mechanics. The senior should improve over this senior and could receive Thursday night consideration.

Personal: Brother of David Carr, former No. 1 overall pick by the Texans. Son of Rodger and Sheryl Carr. Derek Carr is married. Majoring in recreation administration and leisure services management.
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Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson
Height: 6-1. Weight: 225.
Projected 40 Time: 4.63.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
11/23/13: In 2013, Boyd has completed 67 percent of his passes for 2,960 yards with 24 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He has run for 412 yards (237 net) and eight touchdowns, too. Boyd struggled against Florida State. Height concerns and accuracy issues pushes him lower among the quarterbacks. Sources have told WalterFootball.com that Boyd could go as high as the middle of the first round or fall to round two.

Boyd has had many prolific games, including a massive performance against Georgia Tech where he put on a clinic for throwing deep balls. Boyd opened the season with a gritty performance to lead the Tigers to a win over Georgia. He made clutch plays all night and would have had an even bigger game if his receivers hadn't dropped so many passes. Boyd completed 18-of-30 passes for 270 yards with three touchdowns. He ran for 42 yards on 13 carries and two scores on the ground as well.
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There is a lot to like about Boyd as a passer since he has some some natural ability. Boyd is a very accurate passer who can make precision throws down the field. He has a good arm to make throws in every level of the defense. Plus, Boyd hangs tough in the pocket and can take a hit. Outside of his passing and running ability, the only real knock on him is his size. It would be good to see the senior improve his anticipation and ball placement this season.
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Personal: Sociology major. WalterFootball.com has heard from scouts that Boyd is a good teammate and a hard worker.
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Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU
Height: 6-5. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.90.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
11/23/13: Mettenberger has massively improved his game under the direction of offensive coordinator Cam Cameron. The senior's accuracy, decision-making, field vision and fundamentals are exceptionally better. He has completed 66 percent of his passes this season for 2,733 yards with 20 touchdowns and seven interceptions. On the road at Georgia, Mettenberger had a great performance to almost lead LSU to a road victory. The Tigers' defense failed him in the 44-41 loss to the Bulldogs.
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Mettenberger has the physical skill set to be a starter. He has big-time arm and pocket presence. Mettenberger needs to improve his footwork and become more accurate. He also must improve his decision-making. Mettenberger has good receivers to throw to, but he still plays in a ground-based offense so he may not produce big totals in 2013. A big senior year could cause him to rise into the early rounds.

Personal: Majoring in general studies. Son of Bernie and Tammy Mettenberger.
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Kevin Hogan**, QB, Stanford
Height: 6-4. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
11/23/13: Hogan hasn't been as good as expected this year, and Stanford's passing attack has been underwhelming. For the season, he's completed 60 percent of his passes for 1,723 yards with 13 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Hogan has averaged 4.5 yards per carry for 298 yards on the ground with a touchdown, too (259 net). In an upset over Oregon, Hogan made some clutch throws for the Cardinal. He had a letdown in a road loss at USC.
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Hogan (6-4, 220) should get better with experience. He showed real passing talent with accuracy and a strong arm.

Personal: Majoring in science, technology and society. Son of Donna and Jerry Hogan.
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Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
Height: 6-1. Weight: 211.
Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
11/23/13: Murray has been inconsistent at times, but he has played with a patchwork supporting cast as injuries have ravaged the Bulldogs. The senior had a huge performance against LSU with 20-of-34 for 298 yards with four touchdowns and an interception. He also played well to lead Georgia over South Carolina.

On the road versus Clemson to open 2013, Murray had some rough moments in a loss to the Tigers. He also struggled in a loss to Missouri. Murray led a furious fourth quarter comeback with two rushing touchdowns to almost get a win at Auburn. The senior has completed 64 percent of his passes in 2013 for 2,892 yards with 22 touchdowns and eight interceptions. On the ground, Murray has run for seven touchdowns with 241 yards (155 net).

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The big knock on Murray is his height. That causes some to wonder if will translate into the NFL. At the same time, Murray has a quality arm and flashes the ability to be a good game manager. Everybody can expect to hear a lot of Drew Brees citations in arguments for Murray.

Personal: Murray is getting a graduate degree in industrial-organizational psychology.
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A.J. McCarron, QB, Alabama
Height: 6-4. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
11/23/13: McCarron's performances versus Virginia Tech and Ole Miss were underwhelming. He hasn't been able to answer some of the questions about his passing ability. The senior hasn't illustrated a stronger arm than in 2012, and he has thrown some passes off his back foot when he didn't need to.

On the flip side, McCarron played extremely well against Texas A&M to win a shootout at Kyle Field. In 2013, he has completed 68 percent of his passes for 2,228 yards with 21 touchdowns and five interceptions.
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*Junior; **Sophomore

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I would never be a proponent of drafting Derrick Carr, based on the Texans history with his brother, but I watched a couple of Fresno State games in the past few weeks, and that dude seems like a cold blooded killer out there. I was very impressed, even though I had a natural bias against him before I ever watched him play.
 
michaelm said:
I would never be a proponent of drafting Derrick Carr, based on the Texans history with his brother, but I watched a couple of Fresno State games in the past few weeks, and that dude seems like a cold blooded killer out there. I was very impressed, even though I had a natural bias against him before I ever watched him play.
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He is a completely different person than his brother.

Right now, he would be my pick.
 
Pretty sure I sat next to Derek Carr at an Astro game several years back when he was in high school in the area. Also pretty sure the Texans would avoid Carr part deuce.
 
I really like Tajh Boyd poise, leadership & toughness. He's not a big, tall pocket QB like Bridgewater (who would be the pick if in fact Texans own #1) but he is a solid six footer, 225 pounds, can perform without plus protection, durable, good athlete, does well avoiding rush while extending plays going through his progressions. He averages almost 300 yards per game, 29 TD's vs 7 INT's. Played with Hopkins who was his favorite target @ Clemson. Natural Fit!
 
I'd be 100% OK with Bridgewater or Mariota.

Probably prefer Bridgewater, but I'd be fine with either.

Matt Waldman of Football Outsiders wrote a great article comparing the two. I wish I could find it.
 
I have several Carr Jersies I could use again, also wasnt he a poster on here I think I had several conversations with Derek...Hulk something I think
 
I wouldn't rule out carr..he's got the same physical tools his brother had but he wont have to go thru the same crap his brother did in terms of being drafted by a virtually talentless expansion team that's gonna get him killed....Of course, this is b/c i'll always feel that the biggest detriment to David Carr's development here was that he got hit so much, he got shell shocked.

Derek Carr also has the advantage of having had a brother that has played in the NFL & who likely did help him with learning pro game concepts early in his development at Fresno State...Most times it's the younger sibling/offspring that can't live up to the older sibling/parents reputation...sometimes it works out better going in the opposite direction though b/c the younger has the advantage of seeing what not to do & how things will be. See the Mannings.

I also feel deep down, he may want to make good on what his brother failed to deliver to this city for both of their sakes.....
 
It's November (unfortunately). A lot of these guys are going to rise and fall throughout the draft process so answers that may be given now, may not actually reflect what might be the correct answer in about 5ish months. We may be dealing with a new FO and HC staff and their philosophy could be completely off kilter from what we project them out to be at this early into the draft process.

Bridgewater may be the overwhelming favorite here, but he has a better than 0 shot of going back to school for 2014. Same with Manziel and Mariota. I'll vote for Teddy but that is subject to much change.
 
Mettenberger. That's who I would take. Use the 1 to get my RT/LT bookend to Duane Brown and then grab Mettenberger with the 2.
 
I didnt want Teddy for awhile, but after watching more of him and rewatching his bowl game, I think you HAVE to take him. Great passer, mobile, smart instincts, accurate.....you take the franchise qb and don't look back.....fill rt in free agency
 
I have not really looked at Carr, but if the guy is a good player I don't care who his brothers are.

But my vote is for bridgewater. #1 overall, take him. Any pick below that, well...that's a different story.
 
I voted Mariota but I'd really prefer we not take a QB at #1 overall and trade down with the Browns or someone and get 2 1st's and another second and take McCarron in the 2nd. Also take a tackle with the other 2nd. You CAN find good tackles outside the first round.
 
Rey said:
I have not really looked at Carr, but if the guy is a good player I don't care who his brothers are.

But my vote is for bridgewater. #1 overall, take him. Any pick below that, well...that's a different story.
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The biggest issue with David Carr was his commitment to the game. He was notorious for surrounding himself with family (even at practices, before games, etc.) and not fully committing himself to football.

If you could have taken David Carr and instilled a Peyton Manning work ethic in him, you're probably looking at a 12-15 year NFL starter, at the least.

What should be interesting is to see if Derek Carr is subject to these same priority issues, or if he can transcend them. I will enjoy watching another team conduct that experiment.
 
nero THE zero said:
The biggest issue with David Carr was his commitment to the game. He was notorious for surrounding himself with family (even at practices, before games, etc.) and not fully committing himself to football.

If you could have taken David Carr and instilled a Peyton Manning work ethic in him, you're probably looking at a 12-15 year NFL starter, at the least.

What should be interesting is to see if Derek Carr is subject to these same priority issues, or if he can transcend them. I will enjoy watching another team conduct that experiment.
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To be honest I loved that about Carr. Didn't make him a great football player but was admirable as a man.
 
I don't give a damn if this Carr fellow's first names are Jesus and Christ. I do NOT want a QB named Carr on the Texans.
 
Am I a bad person because a little bit of me would like to see the fallout from drafting Derek Carr?

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kiwitexansfan said:
To be honest I loved that about Carr. Didn't make him a great football player but was admirable as a man.
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Indeed. I just don't want that man quarterbacking my team.

I want an obsessed ******* who can't pull his head out of the game. I want a guy who dies on the inside whenever his team loses and who will climb over small children to win the father-son picnic sack race.

Ok, maybe that's a bit much but I don't want anymore conflicted angels who can't dedicate themselves to winning leading the Texans.

Maybe we could quick-turnaround with a new HC, a trade for Roethlisberger (The Steelers must want one of these pretend franchise QB's) and RT in the second round?
 
YeaLikeRightNow said:
Derek Carr threw for 527 yards and a school-record seven touchdowns in his final regular-season home game to help No. 16 Fresno State clinch a spot in the Mountain West title game with a 69-28 victory over New Mexico this past Saturday.

:clap:
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And I'm sure the pass rush was fierce. No thanks.
 
I don't know why but Teddy Bridgewater scares me. If he was putting up numbers in a big time conference I would be more willing to buy into the hype.
 
swisher said:
I don't know why but Teddy Bridgewater scares me. If he was putting up numbers in a big time conference I would be more willing to buy into the hype.
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People said the same thing about Roethlisberger. The thing is, you know talent when you see it. This kid is talented and it doesn't matter what conference he plays in.

I'd also like to point out that he was a big time recruit. He was offered by all of the Florida schools and was going to go to Miami until Strong got the Louisville job.

I'd say it worked out perfectly. He got to stay away from the disaster that was Miami's off the field stuff and the disaster that is Florida's offense. He also didn't have to spend his entire career on the bench behind Ponder and Manuel before getting one year to start at Florida State. Instead he went to Louisville, where he's been a 3-year starter, conference player of the year, and won the Sugar Bowl.
 
swisher said:
I don't know why but Teddy Bridgewater scares me. If he was putting up numbers in a big time conference I would be more willing to buy into the hype.
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You can't just only draft QB's from the SEC or whatever other conference you think "actually plays defense" you'll miss out on tons and tons of talent.
 
I'm becoming more of the opinion after this week to grab Clowney at #1/2 overall and then grabbing one of the Mettenberger/Boyd/Morris kids at #33/4, followed by offensive/defensive lineman depth in rounds 3/4.
 
My new vote, if he declares, goes to Blake Bortles and if you see his girlfriend you would vote for him too.
 
Texian said:
My new vote, if he declares, goes to Blake Bortles and if you see his girlfriend you would vote for him too.
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She's the pair on the left:

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badboy said:
Bortles is not listed at all by either ESPN or Walter, why?
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I think the news that he might declare for draft is only recent, within the last week or so. He was definitely under the radar but I doubt for long. I read something about it for the first time this past weekend so I began to do some due diligence. I had watched the Louisville game and so I went back and watched again. I had taped the Rutgers so I watched it. I have since watched the Penn St game and Houston. Needless to say I am impressed. He's talented in football and picking girlfriends.

I think Bortles two scores in the last 2 minutes to beat Temple 39-36 along with catch made by JJ Worton is what opened some eyes for many about Blake Bortles: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...e-bortles-ucf-coach-george-o-leary-j-j-worton
 
Well I have watched UCF but mostly their defense as I focused on the opponent's offense if that makes sense. Houston and Louisville & then Connecticut as I wanted info on ILB Smallwood but UCF quickly blew them out and did same to Rutgers so I switched to other games. TBH, I lost track of their record and have not watched Bortles much at all. Like you I was surprised to see his stats. I will watch him the last two games and hopefully a bowl.
 
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