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It's not just Schaub

mussop

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Like I have been saying, it's the scheme and coaching.

Moderator please change the title to say. It's not just Schaub.
 
Yea. The house of cards Kubiak has built has come crashing down in violent fashion. Its all over for him.
 
Oh yeah. It's definitely the qb. Along with everything else.

But you can tell it's not the qb till you turn blue, if the coach is fired, the new coach isn't keeping schaub.
 
Oh yeah. It's definitely the qb. Along with everything else.

But you can tell it's not the qb till you turn blue, if the coach is fired, the new coach isn't keeping schaub.

Oh I'm not saying Schaub isn't a factor. I'm just saying this teams biggest problems are coaching and scheme.
 
The QB is not to be absolved from the problem the Texans are having.
I do not want a new coach and the same QB.
I want everything new.
 
The QB sucks too.

Just because Yates goes in there and throws two dumb INTs it just means he's not much better (if any at all) than Schaub.

Lets not forget all of the fumbles this team has had (and usually in the redzone) it's a BUNCH of issues.

You don't get to be a 2-4 team and just have one thing that ails you.
 
The QB is not to be absolved from the problem the Texans are having.
I do not want a new coach and the same QB.
I want everything new.

I think everyone who lays the blame for this team mostly on Kubiak and want a new HC assume that whomever takes over as HC will be bringing in their own guy at qb...its understood at this point.
 
This offense has been predictable since Kyle Shanahan left. That young man could call a game.

I'm all for keeping Smith and getting a new coaching staff immediately. If not sooner. I just hope the guy isn't name Lane Kiffen.
 
This offense has been predictable since Kyle Shanahan left. That young man could call a game.

I'm all for keeping Smith and getting a new coaching staff immediately. If not sooner. I just hope the guy isn't name Lane Kiffen.

Or....

norv turner

Or....

Lovie smith
 
Kubiak is calling safe plays to try and give his QBs confidence. The problem is they're still screwing THOSE up. He can't go out there and play the game for them. The plays are there and the QBs aren't making them. There were open receivers on both of Yates' interceptions and he missed them. There were open receivers on every one of Schaub's 3rd and outs, and he just missed them. Neither one of them sees the field. It's time for new blood at QB. Yates is and always was a Schaub clone.
 
ND Kalu got it right on 790: When your HC is playing it safe to protect your QB that is a very bad thought process to have in the NFL. In the back of the players minds they are thinking "When will it happen again...." and they brace themselves while making mental errors. Its human nature.

So yes it is all on Schaubiak. They are both one at this point and they are dragging the team down with him.


PERIOD

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Kubiak is calling safe plays to try and give his QBs confidence. The problem is they're still screwing THOSE up. He can't go out there and play the game for them. The plays are there and the QBs aren't making them. There were open receivers on both of Yates' interceptions and he missed them. There were open receivers on every one of Schaub's 3rd and outs, and he just missed them. Neither one of them sees the field. It's time for new blood at QB. Yates is and always was a Schaub clone.

I agree. Been saying the same thing weeks ago.
 
Without looking, we have to be the worst in the league in turnover margin. We don't force any and gladly give the other team plenty.
 
Ahhh ok coach speak

"We got beat in all three phases of the game Offensive Defense and SPecial Teams"


LOL
 
We have to be done with Matt. Have to. Not a kubiak fan, but their love affair has to end. It's not healthy for the kids.

We can fire kubiak at years end. But right now, McNair needs to give direct orders to leave Schaub on the sideline.
 
i dont know whats a bigger risk, drafting every year to hide your qbs liabilities or drafting high reward qbs every couple years until you hit.. weve wasted 7 years building around schaub and still really nothing to show for it. when teams like indy suck for 1 year than turn their franchise around drafting a high risk high reward qb..

when it comes to coaches, i would rather have a coach who is a leader of men than an x's & o's "guru." you have coordinators to handle that..
 
This team has a lot more talent than their record would indicate.

I think without a coaching change you aren't going to maximize the potential of that talent. That said McNair is going to wait to do anything, if at all.
 
Coach Kubiak needs to find a way to get Keenum on the field, then scheme a gameplan to victory.

You mean the head coach can't just make a decision, he has to find a way? Maybe Kubiak should just name Keenum the starter and let his OC call the freaking game.
 
This offense has been predictable since Kyle Shanahan left. That young man could call a game.

I'm all for keeping Smith and getting a new coaching staff immediately. If not sooner. I just hope the guy isn't name Lane Kiffen.


Yep. Lil Shanny and Knapp leaving. Not only that,the lack of speed inside the scheme. They don't have enough explosive players at the skill positions on offense. AJ runs pretty good,but he's an intermediate threat.Hopkins is a jump ball type of guy.None of the te's are vertical threats. So what you have is a plodding offense with a defense and special team playing bad.
 
It is and has always been Kubiak.

His schemes.

His plays.

His offense.

His coordinators and coaches.

Schaub's confidence is shot and a coaching change won't fix him. A new coach and a new QB will have to be brought in to fix this. This team has too much talent to be struggling like this.
 
I'm not in favor of a wholesale coaching change. Mayans elevate Phillips and let Dennison call the offense.

If we do that, we might as well see what Keenum has to offer. It would be real interesting to see what Phillips thinks of Keenum.
 
I'm not in favor of a wholesale coaching change. Mayans elevate Phillips and let Dennison call the offense.

If we do that, we might as well see what Keenum has to offer. It would be real interesting to see what Phillips thinks of Keenum.

If wades defense was playing well,I would agree,but their not.They can't stop a nose bleed right now and wade playing with small ngs and run blitzing has killed the defense. Last I checked,dennison calls the plays. Like I've said before,keenum isn't the answer. He doesn't have the so called upside people on this board want to believe.
 
I'm not in favor of a wholesale coaching change. Mayans elevate Phillips and let Dennison call the offense. If we do that, we might as well see what Keenum has to offer. It would be real interesting to see what Phillips thinks of Keenum.

Our front office reminds me of Pappy O'Daniels and his staff in "O Brother Where art Thou" Nothing but yes men. No original ideas. No real discussion. Dennison is the one that doesn't really want to be hear. Seriously.
This is just what I see on the outside. Obviously don't know for sure.
 
If wades defense was playing well,I would agree,but their not.They can't stop a nose bleed right now and wade playing with small ngs and run blitzing has killed the defense. Last I checked,dennison calls the plays. Like I've said before,keenum isn't the answer. He doesn't have the so called upside people on this board want to believe.

Give Keenum a shot before you make this judgment, there are quite a few future HOFers whom people said the same crap about.

Sometimes the will to win can make up for lack of talent/physical attributes, and Keenum has that will to win.
 
Like I've said before,keenum isn't the answer. He doesn't have the so called upside people on this board want to believe.
You've said that. I think others would still like to see for themselves rather than take your word.
 
I don't know that keenum is the answer. I can say with certainty that the qb play this season has been terrible. I'd rather we give keenum a shot to find out what we have than not know.


The chances that keenum is the next Brady are pretty low. But they are non zero which is more I can say for yates

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I don't know that keenum is the answer. I can say with certainty that the qb play this season has been terrible. I'd rather we give keenum a shot to find out what we have than not know.


The chances that keenum is the next Brady are pretty low. But they are non zero which is more I can say for yates

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Yeah well, my chances of hitting the mega millions are non zero too...
 
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