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Ok here it comes..Do the Texans look at aquiring Freeman? (Signed with Vikings)

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BullNation4Life

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before yall start with the flaming, take consideration what is going on in Tampa and what is going on here....

Freeman is on his way out, should come very cheap. He is 6'6", 240lbs, 25 years old, strong arm and is allot mobile than Schaub.

Aside all of BS, could he fit in Kubiak's system? Would it be worth a shot? With Watt and Cushing and AJ, would Freeman's attitude be a factor or could the locker room change all that?

If you are the Texans GM right now, do you think about it...
 
Do I think about it? Yes. Right now I have very little confidence in Schaub and I'm not sure either Yates or Keenum is the answer. I don't know if Freeman fits into Kubiak's system but I think it could be worth a shot.
 
Marcus said:
For this season?

Or next?
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Well get him via trade now, let him sit and learn and maybe get him in within next few weeks. How long was Jake Delhomme here before he had to start?

Not sure what Tampa would want for him, I know Freeman is looking for an extension at the end of the year.

That is the hard part, now or next year....
 
JCTexan said:
I'm not sure either Yates or Keenum is the answer
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Now I'm not saying that one of them is the answer either. However, I would like to find out if one of them can be before we just bring in someone else's garbage. Unfortunately the stubbornness of this coaching staff will let Schaub flail about until week 12 or longer.

So we better all suck it up and hope our favorite Santa Schaub with his gift passes gets it together.
 
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Freeman is a clubhouse cancer and apparently parties like Jacoby Jones. He isn't "Texan worthy" so I doubt he would be a good fit.
 
no I think there gonna roll with Matt intill at least wk 10 then we will see how it goes we still got yates and keenum so yeah no for freeman
 
JCTexan said:
Do I think about it? Yes. Right now I have very little confidence in Schaub and I'm not sure either Yates or Keenum is the answer. I don't know if Freeman fits into Kubiak's system but I think it could be worth a shot.
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This one statement is where all of our team issues stem from. I don't know if Freeman would be the answer, but I think us bypassing upgrades because they don't fit this system hurts us. This system isn't good enough to win the games that matter. This system didn't win 2 Super Bowls in Denver. That was John Elway and Terrell Davis. You get HoF players and you should be able to win a SB or 2. If it weren't for Dan Reeves being the coach in the 80s the Broncos would have won a couple of more.

The team didn't look at acquiring Peyton Manning an offseason ago because Kubiak had "his" guy and Peyton wouldn't fit this system. I was hesitant in wanting Manning because I was worried if he'd come back from the surgeries. Hindsight being what it is I think we can say he's doing alright.

Scrap the coach. Scrap the system. Get players based on their abilities and adjust your game. Lute Olson was a success in UA coaching the men's basketball program for 24 years because he got great players and adapted his schemes to match his players.

We have one of the best WRs to play in the NFL in the last few decades. He has pitiful TD #s because our system doesn't call for the ball to be thrown to the WR in the endzone. In the loss at Arizona 4 years ago he wasn't even on the field during the final sequence that decided the outcome because Kubiak needed a 3rd string TE on the field.

I don't know if they should acquire Freeman. I don't know if it would matter. I don't believe all the issues are on Schaub and I don't know if any QB could come in and make a difference with Kubiak as a coach.
 
I understand that most of you don't watch Bucs games so don't know what you are asking for here.

I will just put it this way, as much as I don't like Matt Schaub, if he were QB of the Bucs they would easily be sitting 3-1 right now.

Freeman is terribly inaccurate and apparently not very popular with team mates for whatever reason. He also has happy feet ala David Carr. Another issue with him is he is extremely inconsistent. He can look solid on one drive then like total crap on the next 3.

I take both Yates and Keenum over Freeman.
 
Hookem Horns said:
I understand that most of you don't watch Bucs games so don't know what you are asking for here.
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You're right there. I haven't watched a game of theirs yet and can't recall the last time I watched them play. I didn't even watch their last game against Houston (only game not shown on TV all year).



Hookem Horns said:
I will just put it this way, as much as I don't like Matt Schaub, if he were QB of the Bucs they would easily be sitting 3-1 right now.
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So are the Bucs a better team than Houston then? You know, the team Schaub has cost two victories by throwing two game changing pick-6's?

Hookem Horns said:
I take both Yates and Keenum over Freeman.
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Good to know. Maybe Yates is the answer for this team. I can't imagine being more concerned over the QB situation than I am right now. :headhurts:
 
Im not ready to scrap this season, there is still plenty of time to turn it around, sitting at 2-2. I would like to see them try, something.

I believe Kubiak is still this teams biggest liability, but Schaub and a few others say he is "elite" so I say hold him to that standard. He has looked mediocre, NOT elite. If he is held to those standards and is not playing to that level. Pull him and allow someone else a chance to play.
 
KA4Texan said:
Im not ready to scrap this season, there is still plenty of time to turn it around, sitting at 2-2. I would like to see them try, something.

I believe Kubiak is still this teams biggest liability, but Schaub and a few others say he is "elite" so I say hold him to that standard. He has looked mediocre, NOT elite. If he is held to those standards and is not playing to that level. Pull him and allow someone else a chance to play.
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Kubiak and Schaub are this team's liability. Until both are gone the Texans will never win anything of significance. I have been saying this for years now.
 
I don't think I would seriouisly consider Josh Freeman an upgrade. However, I would not hesitate to ask Schaub to go pick him up at the airport... show him around... show him the film room... show him where the starting QBs locker is.


"I'm not saying anything Matt, I'm just saying."
 
Hookem Horns said:
Kubiak and Schaub are this team's liability. Until both are gone the Texans will never win anything of significance. I have been saying this for years now.
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I agree that both are a liability, but I believe that the bigger difference is made if you rid yourself of Kubiak.

You rid yourself of Schaub, you still have overly conservative, "play not to lose" mentality.

I cant say BOTH need to be gone, as I believe that a HC change would make the world of difference. Just look at the Ravens for example, they took a lot of our "garbage" and made it work.

I believe a good HC could take this team, even someone like Schaub. QBs DO get much worse than Schaub. (Even though I am not for keeping him around, I just don't feel a change at "BOTH" is needed for success.)

I do believe your statement is correct in a timeline perspective however, I don't see Kubiak being removed until some point after Schaub is gone.
 
You know Josh Freeman is getting paid $8m+ for this year right? If you're going to replace Schaub why do it with a retread like Freeman? Just draft a guy, even if he's a first rounder the contracts aren't nearly as poisonous as they used to be.
 
Heck no. Ride this season into the ground if we have to, but DO NOT take Josh Freeman. That would set us back even further.

Draft, draft, draft. A lot of good QBs.
 
I want to find someone who can be our QB for 10 years, not a loser who couldn't even hack it on a crappy team.

Also, Schaub, even with all of his faults, is still better than Freeman.
 
cdollaz said:
I want to find someone who can be our QB for 10 years, not a loser who couldn't even hack it on a crappy team.

Also, Schaub, even with all of his faults, is still better than Freeman.
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Agreed, but a QB is more of a loser if he can't "hack it" on a good team.

I think both the Texans and Bucs are good teams. Both have solid defenses, pro bowl caliber running backs, pro bowl receivers, decent o-lines (Bucs better than Texans there), etc.

However both have the same issue, head coach and QB. Texans have the advantage in both of those areas and maybe that is why the Texans are 2-2 and the Bucs are 0-4. That said neither team is going anywhere until they address those areas.
 
Hookem Horns said:
Agreed, but a QB is more of a loser if he can't "hack it" on a good team.

I think both the Texans and Bucs are good teams. Both have solid defenses, pro bowl caliber running backs, pro bowl receivers, decent o-lines (Bucs better than Texans there), etc.

However both have the same issue, head coach and QB. Texans have the advantage in both of those areas and maybe that is why the Texans are 2-2 and the Bucs are 0-4. That said neither team is going anywhere until they address those areas.
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I think the Texans defense is way better than the Bucs.
 
Hookem Horns said:
I understand that most of you don't watch Bucs games so don't know what you are asking for here.

I will just put it this way, as much as I don't like Matt Schaub, if he were QB of the Bucs they would easily be sitting 3-1 right now.

Freeman is terribly inaccurate and apparently not very popular with team mates for whatever reason. He also has happy feet ala David Carr. Another issue with him is he is extremely inconsistent. He can look solid on one drive then like total crap on the next 3.

I take both Yates and Keenum over Freeman.
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This. Freeman is god awful.
 
No.

Because in my opinion this offense needs a QB who can make special/extraordinary plays for it to work into playoffs -- like a John Elway. Freeman does not have that ability that we saw from someone like Russell Wilson in a few plays this week.
 
I would give Leinart a second chance before I signed Freeman, not even kidding.

A thread like this is proof that, despite all of the Schaub hate, there isn't a single better option; on or off the roster.
 
We've already got 2 other QBs that know the system better. If it were up to me Schaub sits for the 49ers game. Let TJ show us what he can do, would be a great game to do just that. If he brings home the W (which is a long shot at this point no matter who is QB) let him start against the Rams also!
 
Nope , Freeman isn't any better than any of the QB's currently on the roster ....

I'd prefer to run with Keenum but would be satisfied with Yates getting some run.
 
this would be kinda like the qb version of what the texans did in special teams, hire a guy who sucks at his job to help a guy who sucks at his job.

Hire a qb who just got benched in order to replace a guy who needs to be benched.

come on breh.
 
I can see the OP's point, still, as it's been said, you don't want another teams garbage.
.and I used to be high on Freeman, but he's regressed.

Having said that, I'll take the chance of getting flamed myself.

How about screw the draft, use your #1 pick on the best OT on the board, and give your 2nd round pick to Philly for Nick Foles, that way you're not sifting through another team's trash. Instead your getting an almost proven NFL commodity, a great arm, plenty of accuracy, and legs that can run. I'm looking at a 6'6", 240lb football IQ machine, with wheels on him, who happens to be just rotting on Philly's bench, from probably one of the greatest QB classes in the last 25 years.

If you don't like that, the let's get Kirk Cousins. But my money is on Foles...100%, over a rookie next year who might or might not give you something when you want to keep that super bowl window as open as possible...right...now!

(All predicated, of course, upon what happens this season)
 
If we lose to SF, are we going to see the "sign Farve/Warner" threads like we did when Schaub and Lienart went down in 2011? :D
 
HouTx11 said:
We've already got 2 other QBs that know the system better. If it were up to me Schaub sits for the 49ers game. Let TJ show us what he can do, would be a great game to do just that. If he brings home the W (which is a long shot at this point no matter who is QB) let him start against the Rams also!
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So Seattle dismantled the 9ers, and the Texans were carving up the Hawks, but you think beating the 9ers is a long shot? You people are really tripping. Is there a reason that TJ Yates was drafted where he was, and that Keenum went undrafted? Foster is the exception, not the rule. Schaub has the team around him, and the skills to beat the 9ers IMO.

The Texans are 2-2 and all of you act as if the team is 0-4 and the season is lost. Get a grip on your emotions people. Did you read the Ravens board last season all year? Sounded pretty much the same as here today. Just goes to show that fans have no idea what they are talking about and let their emotions control their opinions. I am sure the Texans have a better team outlook than most of you and still support Schaub. I am all for starting out slow and peaking at the right time to finish strong. We have tried the fast start thing several times, and where has it gotten us?

This season is far from lost and like it or not, Schaub is not the one to blame for either loss. He had his part sure, but he was far from THE reason the Texans lost to the Hawks.
 
Nitrofish said:
So Seattle dismantled the 9ers, and the Texans were carving up the Hawks, but you think beating the 9ers is a long shot? You people are really tripping. Is there a reason that TJ Yates was drafted where he was, and that Keenum went undrafted? Foster is the exception, not the rule. Schaub has the team around him, and the skills to beat the 9ers IMO.

The Texans are 2-2 and all of you act as if the team is 0-4 and the season is lost. Get a grip on your emotions people. Did you read the Ravens board last season all year? Sounded pretty much the same as here today. Just goes to show that fans have no idea what they are talking about and let their emotions control their opinions. I am sure the Texans have a better team outlook than most of you and still support Schaub. I am all for starting out slow and peaking at the right time to finish strong. We have tried the fast start thing several times, and where has it gotten us?

This season is far from lost and like it or not, Schaub is not the one to blame for either loss. He had his part sure, but he was far from THE reason the Texans lost to the Hawks.
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Hard to talk sense to a mob. I agree with everything you posted, well done.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Hard to talk sense to a mob. I agree with everything you posted, well done.
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If you remember last year we weren't playing well, but still managed to win a lot of games & rack up a lot of stats, but when we lost... we really lost. Not just against the Greenbays or the Patriots, but anytime the other team was playing for "something" they found a way to get it done & we were left with a bunch of what ifs.

I know it's easy to say, "John Fox will never win a Super Bowl." & odds are that he won't win in 2013. I can say, "John Fox will never win a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning." Odds are still on my side that it won't happen in 2013. Then Peyton could have a game like he did last year..... long story short, it's easy to be negative about any team & being that only 1 team can win...

There's really no point to my rant. Who knew the Ravens would win the Super Bowl & the Packers would be so far away?

We'll just have to see what happens.

& that's why we love this game so much.
 
Surprised Roethlisberger isn't a name that is thrown around here.

His team is crap, he is getting older, probably won't be the QB of the next great Steelers team, we know he can 'win the big one' why not chase him?

I am NOT proposing this, but it has been discussed by talking heads.
 
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