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What needs be done to fix offense? (Vote for one or more.)


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Mr teX

Hall of Fame
Kubiak and Wade have peaked, time to look for another HC. If schaub doesnt perform......which most people seem to think would be the case, Schaub would be outta here in favor of the new coaches guy anyway.
 

Rey

Guest
Just give me a new QB.
I think that will spark the team and the fans and give us a new offensive identity.
 

WolverineFan

Hall of Fame
Schaubiak has held this team back for too long. The problem is the offense has a specific identity (zone blocking, playaction, rollouts, etc.). You get rid of the HC and you're likely starting over on offense. Yes there is talent there, but you will have a new QB and a new offense.

Wade has done wonders with the defense so hopefully he would stay on. The defense has it's own problems (pass rush, man coverage, shredded by good QB's) but the defense is not the problem with this team.

Oh and fire Joe Marciano please.
 

amazing80

Hall of Fame
Its called adapt to the new NFL. This isn't the 90s anymore The ZBS works, but you need to know its limitations and how to work around them. You need to open the aggression when in the red zone. You have 2 beast wide outs and yet you run 3 straight times and then kick a fg against a team who is good....wtf? The play calling is terrible and the design is over used. Become more creative. For instance, you have 2 elite runners, run shotgun with 2 backs (foster and tate) and make defenses guess where the ball is going. When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
 

RTP2110

All Pro
Its called adapt to the new NFL. This isn't the 90s anymore The ZBS works, but you need to know its limitations and how to work around them. You need to open the aggression when in the red zone. You have 2 beast wide outs and yet you run 3 straight times and then kick a fg against a team who is good....wtf? The play calling is terrible and the design is over used. Become more creative. For instance, you have 2 elite runners, run shotgun with 2 backs (foster and tate) and make defenses guess where the ball is going. When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
THIS. And it's why this offense was at it's best with baby Shanny running it.
 

thunderkyss

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What needs to be done to fix Texans' Nothing offemse?
I think we should continue to do what we're doing.

Before this game, we all had expectations of how it would go. We predicted scores & what not. This game did not go the way some of us expected.

I didn't think we were going to blow out the Ravens. I thought it was going to be a low scoring, ugly game that we would manage to win. I did not factor in a defensive score. I did not expect a special team score. They both happened, & they both happened against us.

Our defense held them to 16 points. Their defense held us to 9 points. That's about what I expected with the way we were playing.

Newton appears to be getting healthier. I know that's difficult to hear when Dumervil & Suggs made him their btch.... but it's Dumervil & Suggs & they make everybody their btch, especially if you're playing from behind.

Foster's ran pretty strong today. I think when Tate's running as well as he had been, Foster tries harder.

I think Posey is looking good. Looks like he's surpassed LeStar as the #4 receiver. Hopefully he can work Martin (who's been looking good lately as well) further down the depth chart.

Hopefully DBrown comes back healthy & ready to play. Hopefully Wade can suck it up & play well for the rest of the season. Hopefully Brandon Brooks continues to play well, hopefully Newton continues to improve.

I still expect this team to be in the top 5 in scoring when it's all said & done, if Kubiak & Matt continue to do what they've been doing.
 

Grunky

Noob
I think we should continue to do what we're doing.

Before this game, we all had expectations of how it would go. We predicted scores & what not. This game did not go the way some of us expected.

I didn't think we were going to blow out the Ravens. I thought it was going to be a low scoring, ugly game that we would manage to win. I did not factor in a defensive score. I did not expect a special team score. They both happened, & they both happened against us.

Our defense held them to 16 points. Their defense held us to 9 points. That's about what I expected with the way we were playing.

Newton appears to be getting healthier. I know that's difficult to hear when Dumervil & Suggs made him their btch.... but it's Dumervil & Suggs & they make everybody their btch, especially if you're playing from behind.

Foster's ran pretty strong today. I think when Tate's running as well as he had been, Foster tries harder.

I think Posey is looking good. Looks like he's surpassed LeStar as the #4 receiver. Hopefully he can work Martin (who's been looking good lately as well) further down the depth chart.

Hopefully DBrown comes back healthy & ready to play. Hopefully Wade can suck it up & play well for the rest of the season. Hopefully Brandon Brooks continues to play well, hopefully Newton continues to improve.

I still expect this team to be in the top 5 in scoring when it's all said & done, if Kubiak & Matt continue to do what they've been doing.
Very bold statement... I wish you luck with that!
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
I've said this before,they should be in no huddle, 11 personel either big (andre as the y) or small (martin) as the Y. Graham nor daniels are vertical threats so they should only be on together inside the 10yd line. Otherwise,make teams play nickel and move the ball up and down the field like that. I know he hasn't played great,but I would've drafted geno smith as my q of the future in the 1st and came back to get my wr in the 2nd. They don't have any wr who can step on toes and make the db turn and open up.
 

waynegg

Waterboy
It's week 3.
Through three weeks, Schaub is 85-of-128 passing (66.4 percent) for 838 yards, six TDs, four interceptions (two pick-sixes) and an 87.3 rating. Some of the numbers are solid. Others fall in line with his career track. None are elite. None are Super Bowl worthy. ~ Houston Chronical

Even Matt Schaub knows he's the problem...

“I’ve just got to be better" ~ Matt Schaub
 

DocBar

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I'm ready to see some fresh blood at QB. Once the score got out of hand today, I wish Kubiak would've put Yates in and let him rip.

The playbook doesn't need to be rewritten but it does need updated. Kubiak needs to loose the hounds when his back is against the wall and open his playbook up all the way, not just used the dog-eared pages. I didn't vote to replace the offensive coordinator, but maybe I should have. There's way too much talent on this team.

Marciano needs to go. ST's has been in the crapper for a few years.

One thing I hope doesn't happen is that Phillips becomes interim HC this season. That would fit his MO, though, and he has stated many times that he wants to be a HC again.
 
Its called adapt to the new NFL. This isn't the 90s anymore The ZBS works, but you need to know its limitations and how to work around them. You need to open the aggression when in the red zone. You have 2 beast wide outs and yet you run 3 straight times and then kick a fg against a team who is good....wtf? The play calling is terrible and the design is over used. Become more creative. For instance, you have 2 elite runners, run shotgun with 2 backs (foster and tate) and make defenses guess where the ball is going. When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
EXACTLY!!!

Why is it when I watch the Texans, I feel as though I am watch the 97-98 Broncos? all day today, I was making my dad laugh because I wasn't even in the room, he would yell out down and distance the Texans had and I would tell him what play was coming, before it ever was ran. That is how predicable Kubiak's offense is.

Hell even Suggs knew what was coming, they made point of that often in the game....

The game now that is the NFL is passing Kubiak, no check that, the game that now is the NFL is leaving Kubiak's ass in the dust and Kubiak is way too stubborn to see it and adapt...

What worked 15 years ago does not work today, or it only gets you so far...
 
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76Texan

Hall of Fame
The Texans are a team that mix zone blocking with a gap scheme.
The majority of NFL teams also use some form of zone blocking.
Just use google search "team name + zone blocking" and you will come up with a slew of them:
Packers, Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins, Broncos, Ravens, Raiders, Dolphins, Jaguars, Titans, Seahawks, Chiefs, Cardinals, Saints, Colts, etc.

Read this article, for example:
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nflnation&id=77661&src=desktop

When you google for the Steelers, you will come up with an article where some players are wondering why they're not running much of the scheme; it was successful for them in pre-season.

http://triblive.com/mobile/4728878-96/scheme-steelers-running


So can we strike out that thought about abandoning the zone scheme please.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
Profootballreference.com has a feature called play finder.
They don't have an update for this week game yet, but through the first two games, the Texans called a pass play 86.7% of the time on 2nd and 7 yards or longer.
The rest of the league was at just over 60%.

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
 

EVOLVIST

Kid A
It's the O-Line, yo! Yeah, Kubiak has the tendency to stink up the joint, and yes his backup QB mentality has softened an already soft Matt Schaub, still, we've all seen Schaub shred defenses when he has a good, if not GREAT, pocket to throw out of. But Schaub isn't mentally tough (it appears), so he's shell shocked into oblivion right now because of poor offensive line play. In fact, I would say that Schaub helped us win the first couple of games, despite himself. Now, this game against the Ravens was just too much for him to bear.

I'm not buying the lisfranc bit, just yet.

So, what needs to be done this season? Yeah, replace Newton with Harris. Short to intermediate passes to strike quickly and help the O-Line, score fast a couple of times and see how they rush the passer then. Change your MO and you'll win games because nobody will expect Kubiak to change.

(Fantasy Land)
 

DocBar

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Originally Posted by amazing80 View Post
When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.

Profootballreference.com has a feature called play finder.
They don't have an update for this week game yet, but through the first two games, the Texans called a pass play 86.7% of the time on 2nd and 7 yards or longer.
The rest of the league was at just over 60%.

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
80 stated throw it deep EVERY time, not throw it. I've seen several throws many yards short of the 1st down marker this year. He's not necessarily barking up the wrong tree. Every time the Texans threw it deep on 2nd and long, I wasn't surprised. They are getting that predictable.

Where he's barking up the wrong tree is saying to throw it deep every time on 2nd and long to become unpredictable. The Texans have a pretty decent YPC and 3rd and 3-5 is much more makeable, percentage-wise, than 3rd and longer. Even when the box is stacked, the Texans run the ball better than most, regardless of down and distance.

IMHO, changing the pace of the game, instead of being anally concerned with TOP, would have a much bigger impact on games than play calling on a particular down and distance. Try dictating substitutions against our talent rather than puffing your chest out and saying we can beat you regardless by imposing our will on you. Most successful coaches use mismatches on a regular basis. Kubiak prefers pissing contests and relying on superior talent to win battles. More and more, it takes superior tactical and strategic play calling to win these contests. That's where Kubiak comes up short. He may have the longer schlong, but Lady Victory appears to enjoy the motion of the ocean as much as the depth, if not more. Being innovative tactically and fundamentally secure strategically is the answer to winning in the NFL these days.
 

Corrosion

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Find someone to replace Newton , not having Brown really hurt today.

Also need a QB .... who can throw downfield and extend plays with his feet. Im done with "The statue of Schaub" Three picks in three games that either result in a pick 6 or fantastic field position resulting in 6. Had IT!

Find an OC who will call for routes that go beyond the marker on 3rd down & will take shots "Into" the endzone while in the redzone. This is really a big deal as a penalty in the endzone puts you at the 1 ..... with a 1st down.


Last but not least , get rid of Marciano .... that dude's concept of lane integrity is worse than a politicians concept of integrity.
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
I agree with corrosion. I also think that if Kubes had a better qb,he would do more from a point of moving the pockets just to vs to make sure a dude with avg arm can have clean feet. They also need more speed at wr. They don't have a wr who can just flat out run guys. Andre still can run,but he's not the guy to eat the cushion like he used to. None of the te's can run either. When you look at the modern te's like gronk,hernandez,graham,and the cameron kid in cleveland,they have a common trait. They all are big guys who can run seam routes. None of the texans te's are those kind of threats. So derfense just cloud the middle and let them run those jerk routes.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
@Docbar

When the rest of the league call a pass 60% of the time, they clearly are not throwing it deep every time.

Why would anybody expect the Texans to?

Also, in the first two weeks, not only did the Texans throw the ball quite a bit more than the average of the league (meaning more than most of the teams) on 2nd and long, they also gained more per attempt.
 
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76Texan

Hall of Fame
Find someone to replace Newton , not having Brown really hurt today.

Also need a QB .... who can throw downfield and extend plays with his feet. Im done with "The statue of Schaub" Three picks in three games that either result in a pick 6 or fantastic field position resulting in 6. Had IT!

Find an OC who will call for routes that go beyond the marker on 3rd down & will take shots "Into" the endzone while in the redzone. This is really a big deal as a penalty in the endzone puts you at the 1 ..... with a 1st down.


Last but not least , get rid of Marciano .... that dude's concept of lane integrity is worse than a politicians concept of integrity.
In the first two games, in the red zone, the Texans called a pass play 70% of the time; the rest of the league only some 56-57% of the time.

On these passing attempts, the Texans gained some .25 yard per play more than the rest of the league.

It's the total reverse of what you were expecting.
 

amazing80

Hall of Fame
Profootballreference.com has a feature called play finder.
They don't have an update for this week game yet, but through the first two games, the Texans called a pass play 86.7% of the time on 2nd and 7 yards or longer.
The rest of the league was at just over 60%.

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
Where in my post did I specify 7 yards or longer? Learn to read..I said EVERY 2ND DOWN, its the 2nd and 3s that we should be taking our shots downfield, if its incomplete, you still have 3rd and short
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
On third down, regardless of field position, the Texans averaged 8.52 yards to go, and they gained 7.33 yards per pass attempts on these plays.

The whole league (including the Texans) averaged 7.94/5.80

The Texans passed more on third downs; they had further to go, and they gained more.

Again, it is the reverse of what was expecting in this thread.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
Its called adapt to the new NFL. This isn't the 90s anymore The ZBS works, but you need to know its limitations and how to work around them. You need to open the aggression when in the red zone. You have 2 beast wide outs and yet you run 3 straight times and then kick a fg against a team who is good....wtf? The play calling is terrible and the design is over used. Become more creative. For instance, you have 2 elite runners, run shotgun with 2 backs (foster and tate) and make defenses guess where the ball is going. When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
"When 2nd and long, throw it deep, Everytime."

That is what you said, isn't it?
 

TexansSeminole

Hall of Fame
I don't really have a problem with Kubiak's scheme. The only two problems I have with him are his play calls on occasion, which I can live with, and his marriage to Schaub. I think part of his play calling problems come from the little he has to work with at QB. His scheme works very well actually and he has been more committed to the run game recently than he has been in the past, which is a good thing.
 
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leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
76Texan, personally don't think the texans have good footspeed on offense. I mean Aj still can run,but his 9 rt isn't the same as a few years ago,but his route running is top notch especialy for a wr of his size.I don't think you should have to wait to long situations or play action to throw the ball down the field. We watched the ravens lay dormant like an old volcano,then all of a sudden, big play to smith. Now the safety is staying a little further back,so are the lbs,and now the crossing rts have more space. As I said before,they need a bigger sense of urgency and create some matchup situations. To me,posey and martin need more time and targets while reducing the targets and time for the te combo. No team is bracketing nor rolling to either of those guys. Teams don't fear being beat by daniels nor graham. Neither guy have special or unique qualities.
 

thunderkyss

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I'm ready to see some fresh blood at QB. Once the score got out of hand today, I wish Kubiak would've put Yates in and let him rip.
There's no way Kubiak makes that change, especially based on what happened the two weeks prior.

The score didn't put the game out of hand..... time ran out. Time ran out, because our defense couldn't get Baltimore off the field & when it finally did, it took us 5 minutes to get into field goal range.

At the next opportunity, we saw Cierre & Yates handing him the ball.
 

thunderkyss

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IMHO, changing the pace of the game, instead of being anally concerned with TOP, would have a much bigger impact on games than play calling on a particular down and distance.
I think this is the biggest thing we need to do... not for the same reason or other benefits you mentioned (not that they aren't good)... But we need to get Schaub in a rhythm. & even the Schaub haters will have to admit when Matt's on, he's on. We just don't see him get into his groove often enough.

I know Kubiak thinks it's important to get Foster going, that he's the cog that makes everything works.. but everything revolves around the QB. Get him right, & Foster will get right.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
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In the first two games, in the red zone, the Texans called a pass play 70% of the time; the rest of the league only some 56-57% of the time.

On these passing attempts, the Texans gained some .25 yard per play more than the rest of the league.

It's the total reverse of what you were expecting.
I think you are misunderstanding my thoughts here.


Im talking about throwing the ball "INTO" the endzone .... Not simply throwing the ball or the average length of route / pass combinations.

Having the target IN THE Endzone gives you a theoretical advantage in that you have either a completion , an incompletion or a penalty with the rules heavily favoring the offensive player. Two of those three possible outcomes are good for the offense ....

They didn't take advantage of that Vs the Ravens and the result is easy to see , settling for three FG's.
 

thunderkyss

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They didn't take advantage of that Vs the Ravens and the result is easy to see , settling for three FG's.
It's simply not worth the risk... not to Kubiak & Schaub. The field goal game would have beat the Ravens if not for the pick 6 he threw & the STs touchdown. After that, we never really had a chance to throw one into the endzone, or we would have, just like we did against Tennessee, or San Diego.

I know what you're thinking. We should strike any time the opportunity presents itself... & depending on your mindset, we do & will. But the Ravens were keeping our guys in front of them all game, just like we were doing to them. When we were in the red zone, I'm sure Matt saw too many of them, not enough of us & chose to check it down..... just like they wanted. Taking what the defense gives you.

Had Schaub thrown it into the endzone & they picked off the ball... we come away with no points, it would have been even uglier.

Matt got frustrated yesterday. He tried to lead OD for a big play... he "never" leads a receiver. OD let him down & didn't get to the ball. It's really that simple. Had Matt played his "normal" conservative game, that ball would have been on ODs back hip. He would have caught it, or it would have been incomplete & we continue to play small ball with the Ravens.
 

Honoring Earl 34

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I think you are misunderstanding my thoughts here.


Im talking about throwing the ball "INTO" the endzone .... Not simply throwing the ball or the average length of route / pass combinations.

Having the target IN THE Endzone gives you a theoretical advantage in that you have either a completion , an incompletion or a penalty with the rules heavily favoring the offensive player. Two of those three possible outcomes are good for the offense ....

They didn't take advantage of that Vs the Ravens and the result is easy to see , settling for three FG's.
I would have liked to see Hopkins have a chance to go get it in the end zone .

With Schaub as a QB you don't have to worry about him running and you don't have to cover long .
 

Corrosion

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I would have liked to see Hopkins have a chance to go get it in the end zone .

With Schaub as a QB you don't have to worry about him running and you don't have to cover long .
Hopkins , AJ & Posey all have a size advantage over the majority of DB's covering them .... Throw it high and allow your receiver to make a bleeping play.

Those high & away throws to the deep corner of the endzone (or sideline in general) are very difficult to defend with a low chance the DB can get a paw on it.


The more I think about it , the more I think the issues revolve around Schaub's inadequacies than any other factor.
He's fine as long as he has a clean pocket .... but all too often in the NFL that just isn't the case.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
I had to think about whether to vote for getting rid of Schaub or Kubiak, ending up voting for getting rid of Schaub since that'll be a quicker fix. Although getting rid of either or both would make me happy.

The problem is that neither TJ or Keenum are ready to start, so you'd have to just go ahead throw one of them to the wolves.
 

Rey

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I get why you'd throw the ball in front of the sticks or just short of the end zone at times. The defense is usually giving you that space and if your guy can catch it and make a play it can work out nicely.

But Schaub doesn't throw the ball well enough for that. A lot of his throws are late with little velocity. Look at the throw to Andre yesterday. He bobbled it, but it was not a good throw at all. Ball should have been out in front if him, thrown quicker so he could catch it and quickly turn up field to beast for the first down.

We can't consistently be a good team if we have to constantly fight to make up for the shortcomings of the qb. That should be reversed. The qb should be mostly making up for shortcomings of others.
 

thunderkyss

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He's fine as long as he has a clean pocket .... but all too often in the NFL that just isn't the case.
But we do expect the protection to be better than what we've seen right?

Far as Schaub goes... I don't think it's about his inadequacies. I think it's about how he decides when it's time to take a chance & when it's not. Too often we're on the wrong side of that decision when you consider this game is about play-makers making plays.

Sooner or later, you've got to decide that we're not going to settle for a field goal... the first two, that's my limit. That third trip into the red zone, it's time to take a chance. Got to be.
 

gafftop

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I had to think about whether to vote for getting rid of Schaub or Kubiak, ending up voting for getting rid of Schaub since that'll be a quicker fix. Although getting rid of either or both would make me happy.

The problem is that neither TJ or Keenum are ready to start, so you'd have to just go ahead throw one of them to the wolves.
My thoughts exactly.

Schaub's main advantage over the other two is experience/decision making and possibly accuracy. Well based on what we have seen lately those two advantages are gone. He seems to be folding under the pressure of the actual rush, the pressure of a possible rush and the pressure he has put on himself.
I know we all assume he recognizes the defense better than the other two because of his experience but I am not so sure. We assume he goes through the progressions better than the other two but I am not so sure. I have to think that AJ is not the most open receiver most of the time.

They always say a game may hinge on 5-6 plays. Yesterday his contribution to these plays were negative not positive. Maybe if he had made a couple of plays on the first two drives they have TDs instead of FGs.

Listening to him on 610 and his answers kind of remind me of "Nuke" LaLoosh/Bull Durham at the end of the movie.

We wiil see against Seattle how he responds. I think it will be far uglier than this week for MS and the Texans.

On a side note does he look sleep deprived/stressed out or has he always looked like that?

Can't wait to see what happens against Seattle.
 

thunderkyss

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I get why you'd throw the ball in front of the sticks or just short of the end zone at times. The defense is usually giving you that space and if your guy can catch it and make a play it can work out nicely.

But Schaub doesn't throw the ball well enough for that. A lot of his throws are late with little velocity. Look at the throw to Andre yesterday. He bobbled it, but it was not a good throw at all. Ball should have been out in front if him, thrown quicker so he could catch it and quickly turn up field to beast for the first down.

We can't consistently be a good team if we have to constantly fight to make up for the shortcomings of the qb. That should be reversed. The qb should be mostly making up for shortcomings of others.
msr.... I agree with everything you're saying, except the shortcomings of Schaub. He's doing that on purpose. It's difficult to grasp, because it just doesn't make sense, but after watching it for years & listening to him... he's doing it on purpose. At least he believes he'd doing it on purpose.

This isn't something that just started happening since the Lisfranc, he's done it since he got here. Then every time you think he's going to pick & choose when he'll lead & when he'll throw it behind better, something bad happens. Like the ball when he tried to lead OD.

Instead of thinking, "I led him a little too much." It's like he says, "That'll never work."
 

HJam72

Hall of Fame
1. Marciano SUCKS. Do something about it.

2. The O-line is in disarray. We need Brown back healthy, & that is not the only problem, but I'm far from knowing what to do about it, especially right now & under the current circumstances.

3. I believe we needed to go high to Hopkins in the redzone in this game & didn't. I also suspect that we mistakenly shyed away from the TEs after the pick 6 in this game, which was all on Schaub anyway.

I don't think Schaub played all that terrbibly, but the pick 6 throw was a total bonehead move. We lost this game because of terrible redzone play by the O., a pick-6, and an 82 yard punt return for a TD that has MARCIANO written all over it. The D didn't always look great, but you take away 14 points for the pick-6 & punt return & they did their jobs pretty darn well.
 

TexansSeminole

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I get why you'd throw the ball in front of the sticks or just short of the end zone at times. The defense is usually giving you that space and if your guy can catch it and make a play it can work out nicely.

But Schaub doesn't throw the ball well enough for that. A lot of his throws are late with little velocity. Look at the throw to Andre yesterday. He bobbled it, but it was not a good throw at all. Ball should have been out in front if him, thrown quicker so he could catch it and quickly turn up field to beast for the first down.

We can't consistently be a good team if we have to constantly fight to make up for the shortcomings of the qb. That should be reversed. The qb should be mostly making up for shortcomings of others.
Great point. Schaub definitely doesn't make it easier on the receivers. The ball just looks weak coming off his arm.
 

texanhead08

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I never get how we are supposed to be such a great running team but we look ****ing clueless in the red zone over and over.

The o-line play was god awful yesterday and we have the most immobile QB in the league and that compounds the problems when they don't play well.

We see the same special teams breakdowns year after year and yet Marciano keeps his job...wtf is that all about.
 
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