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Colts get Trent Richardson from Browns

Awww, man. Sucks for us, sucks for my fantasy team.

Very smart move by the Browns, IMO, as running backs are a commodity now.

A bit early for the Colts, who need to upgrade their lines.
 
This could be huge for the Colts - if only they had a good O-Line... I don`t know, I am pretty unsure what to think about this trade. It makes the Colts better, and we know what T-Rich can do (something that can`t be said about 1st round draft picks), but it is a hefty price. They finally got their next Edge and if he can stay healthy, he will help them a lot.
 
Asinine.

Who cares if the Browns are stockpiling picks? What gives anyone any indication that they'll use them well?

Luck and Richardson, eh? I'm sure Watt and Cushing will be up to the task. They damn well better be.
 
LikeMike said:
This could be huge for the Colts - if only they had a good O-Line... I don`t know, I am pretty unsure what to think about this trade. It makes the Colts better, and we know what T-Rich can do (something that can`t be said about 1st round draft picks), but it is a hefty price. They finally got their next Edge and if he can stay healthy, he will help them a lot.
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What exactly has he done in the NFL? Honestly I'd rather take the unknown 1st round pick.

Richardson has had VERY pedestrian numbers so far in his short career.
 
Hmmm... this guy was supposed to be a cornerstone of a rebuilding Browns team... WTH??

Something's up.

do we have spies that haunt any Browns' msg boards??
 
WTF?

This dude wasn't that bad just didnt have alot around him & he was injured a little too much...the last thing we need to deal with in this division.
 
Carr Bombed said:
What exactly has he done in the NFL? Honestly I'd rather take the unknown 1st round pick.

Richardson has had VERY pedestrian numbers so far in his short career.
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Remember that he plays for the Browns - they are playing from behind a lot, and you don`t run the ball when the other team is up 20 points. But 11 TDs is not pedestrian for a rookie, and he showed a lot of promise. His 3.6ypc average might not look like that much, but it is alright for a rookie.
 
This trade makes me wonder what we could get for Ben Tate, because honestly when he's healthy and his mind is right, I like him a lot more than Trent Richardson.
 
Carr Bombed said:
What exactly has he done in the NFL? Honestly I'd rather take the unknown 1st round pick.

Richardson has had VERY pedestrian numbers so far in his short career.
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950 yards, 11 rushing TDs and 51 receptions for almost 400 yards and a TD is pretty damn nice for a rookie. Especially one with an overall garbage offense in Cleveland.
 
Trent Richardson is in elite company...only three
rookie RBs ever with 250+ carries and 3.6 ypc or
less. (Ricky Williams, Errict Rhett)

Man. Lol! Nice job ponies!
 
TheMatrix31 said:
950 yards, 11 rushing TDs and 51 receptions for almost 400 yards and a TD is pretty damn nice for a rookie. Especially one with an overall garbage offense in Cleveland.
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He had a lot better offensive line in Cleveland than what he's going to have in Indy.. There have been other backs who played on crap offenses and could post more than just 3 100 yard games and better than a 3.6 YPC average. He's a bruiser, but can't hit the long ball. Reminds me of a richer man's Ron Dayne. I think he can help them, but he isn't worth a 1st round pick in a trade.
 
Carr Bombed said:
This trade makes me wonder what we could get for Ben Tate, because honestly when he's healthy and his mind is right, I like him a lot more than Trent Richardson.
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As soon as I read about the Colts trying to trade for an HB I was wondering what we could get for Ben Tate. I´d hate to lose him to a division rival, but I didn`t expect a first rounder in return... I guess I´d have gone for that trade... No other owner in the league would be ready to offer a first rounder to a HB I believe...
 
The tweets from irsay made me think they were getting someone the likes of mjd or Ray rice. Not the 3rd tier running back. Irsay has truly lost it
 
Carr Bombed said:
He had a lot better offensive line in Cleveland than what he's going to have in Indy.. There have been other backs who played on crap offenses and could post more than just 3 100 yard games and better than a 3.6 YPC average. He's a bruiser, but can't hit the long ball. Reminds me of a richer man's Ron Dayne. I think he can help them, but he isn't worth a 1st round pick in a trade.
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Yeah but Luck is way better than Weeden is. More of a threat. Teams playing Cleveland could just zero in on Richardson. Can't do that against Luck and Indy.

We'll see.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Yeah but Luck is way better than Weeden is. More of a threat. Teams playing Cleveland could just zero in on Richardson. Can't do that against Luck and Indy.

We'll see.
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Richardson cant play offensive line can he? How about some playing two way football to reinforce that mediocre defense?
 
DX-TEX said:
Richardson cant play offensive line can he? How about some playing two way football to reinforce that mediocre defense?
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Well, the three backs they've used in the first two games (none of whom will ever be confused with Jim Brown or Earl Campbell) are averaging about 4.4 YPC running behind that O-line. No reason Richardson shouldn't be better than any of them.
 
Carr Bombed said:
This trade makes me wonder what we could get for Ben Tate, because honestly when he's healthy and his mind is right, I like him a lot more than Trent Richardson.
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Tate would probably would go for a fifth rounder. Richardson is younger, has more upside, and has accomplished more than Ben Tate has. This is the first year that Tate has been healthy isn't it?
 
The1ApplePie said:
Tate would probably would go for a fifth rounder. Richardson is younger, has more upside, and has accomplished more than Ben Tate has. This is the first year that Tate has been healthy isn't it?
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Tate was healthy in 2011 (15 games) and had essentially the same yardage as Richardson had last year on about 90 fewer carries.

And in a strange turn, while Tate is older, because of the combination of his #2 RB status, and his injuries, Tate actually has 40 fewer NFL carries, and 69 fewer touches.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Well, the three backs they've used in the first two games (none of whom will ever be confused with Jim Brown or Earl Campbell) are averaging about 4.4 YPC running behind that O-line. No reason Richardson shouldn't be better than any of them.
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Yeah cause the defense is salivating trying to kill Luck.:kitten:
 
ChampionTexan said:
Well, the three backs they've used in the first two games (none of whom will ever be confused with Jim Brown or Earl Campbell) are averaging about 4.4 YPC running behind that O-line. No reason Richardson shouldn't be better than any of them.
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The Colts gave up a first for a reason. The dude can ball. However, it was a bit of a kneejerk due to their schedule and the rise of chargers, titans, and chefs.

Now the Colts have a bruising pass catching stud rb to take heat off Luck

Def improves them quite a bit on O.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Tate was healthy in 2011 (15 games) and had essentially the same yardage as Richardson had last year on about 90 fewer carries.

And in a strange turn, while Tate is older, because of the combination of his #2 RB status, and his injuries, he actually has 40 NFL carries, and 69 fewer touches.
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Thanks. Totally forgot about him in 2011.
 
I like this move for Indy. Richardson is a stud. CLE offense was garbage just like their OL. Puts them in serious contention with us.
 
ObsiWan said:
Hmmm... this guy was supposed to be a cornerstone of a rebuilding Browns team... WTH??

Something's up.

do we have spies that haunt any Browns' msg boards??
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New regime - up to and including owner. (And don't forget that one of those new FO members is Mike Lombardi, so sheer stupidity can't be ruled out as the underlying reason for the trade).
 
Sorry, but Texans fans can blow this off like it isn't a big deal all they want, but the Colts just got a lot better. They just got a very solid talent for their running game to add with guys like Wayne and Hilton. The Colts are continually getting better and this is not good for the Texans despite who wants to spin it.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think the Colts are now in the race for the division.


I hate it.
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Titans, Colts, and Texans schedules are all brutal this year facing NFC West and of course each other.

Texans still favorite, but we will have to earn it, we aint running away with anything.

BIG game for us against Ravens w what looms. We need to be 3-0.
 
DX-TEX said:
Cleveland got the better of this deal. I don't see this improving the Colts that much and they greatly overpaid
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Unfortunately, I see things differently than you do. Richardson's the best RB Indy's had since Edgerrin James. That thrills me not at all.

Not that his first game will tell us all that much, but it will be interesting to see how much they use him this weekend in San Fran, and how he does against that D.
 
I like the way all the so-called analysts on TV think this is such a great deal for the Colts.

One thing I haven't heard from any of them is that Trent was a 2 down back that was a real liability on 3rd down. That's why we had Obywann on 3rd down. At least he could block and pick up a blitz.

This is not sour grapes on my part. I much prefered the way Hardesty hit the hole when he would spell Trent. Trent will dance at line and look for those "Alabama" size holes.

If he is on the field on 3rd downs the Texans will eat his lunch.
 
Texecutioner said:
Sorry, but Texans fans can blow this off like it isn't a big deal all they want, but the Colts just got a lot better. They just got a very solid talent for their running game to add with guys like Wayne and Hilton. The Colts are continually getting better and this is not good for the Texans despite who wants to spin it.
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Agreed, I have no idea what these people are talking about. Everybody stacks the LOS against Cleveland, they have zero passing game. The Colts just got better for a 4-5 year period, undoubtedly.
 
Texecutioner said:
Sorry, but Texans fans can blow this off like it isn't a big deal all they want, but the Colts just got a lot better. They just got a very solid talent for their running game to add with guys like Wayne and Hilton. The Colts are continually getting better and this is not good for the Texans despite who wants to spin it.
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Yep

Grigson is obviously a risk taker.

Will BoB/Rick/Gary take the necessary chances to keep up with the Colts? History says they will not.
 
texdawg said:
I like the way all the so-called analysts on TV think this is such a great deal for the Colts.

One thing I haven't heard from any of them is that Trent was a 2 down back that was a real liability on 3rd down. That's why we had Obywann on 3rd down. At least he could block and pick up a blitz.

This is not sour grapes on my part. I much prefered the way Hardesty hit the hole when he would spell Trent. Trent will dance at line and look for those "Alabama" size holes.

If he is on the field on 3rd downs the Texans will eat his lunch.
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It definitely sounds like sour grapes on your part when you completely dismiss the fact that a very good division rival just got a stud RB that was a top 5 pick just last season who has fresh young legs, and you act like it's some sort of guarantee that the Texans will eat his lunch. If it isn't sour grapes it's just homerism getting in the way of rationale thinking.
 
Texecutioner said:
It definitely sounds like sour grapes on your part when you completely dismiss the fact that a very good division rival just got a stud RB that was a top 5 pick just last season who has fresh young legs, and you act like it's some sort of guarantee that the Texans will eat his lunch. If it isn't sour grapes it's just homerism getting in the way of rationale thinking.
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So remind me of all the times stud RBs were traded for a lower draft pick after one year? Or is it too homer to ask that question?

By the way, I recall a 4th round rookie RB on a much worse passing team, with a horrendous OL, who I don't recall anyone calling a stud while averaging .7 ypc more than Richardson.
 
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Carr Bombed said:
He had a lot better offensive line in Cleveland than what he's going to have in Indy.. There have been other backs who played on crap offenses and could post more than just 3 100 yard games and better than a 3.6 YPC average. He's a bruiser, but can't hit the long ball. Reminds me of a richer man's Ron Dayne. I think he can help them, but he isn't worth a 1st round pick in a trade.
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The line might be slightly better in Cleveland (They both have been bad) but in Indy, Richardson isn't going to face 8 dudes crammed into the box on every single play.
 
This has got to be one of the most divisive trades I've seen in terms of reaction.

We've had the full spectrum from the Colts made a very shrewd move, to the Browns just made out like bandits trading for a 1st.

That said, I think it is a bit of a dick move on a fanbase who've endured quite a lot of crap over the years - pulling this in the 2nd week, after all the season tickets are solid, and effectively putting up a sign that says 'come back next year'.

Sure I know fans should stick by their team through thick and thin - but how many of us would have been jumping for joy two weeks into the season if we've traded Mario for an unknown first round pick, after putting the emotional baggage into believing that your franchise has got 'the one'.

As for the actual trade - I don't really think we'll know for a few weeks. Richardson could propel Indy to a divisional title, and leave Cleveland with a high 20's pick, or he could have the warned diva mentality, and the Browns are picking in the top 10 twice.
 
Texecutioner said:
It definitely sounds like sour grapes on your part when you completely dismiss the fact that a very good division rival just got a stud RB that was a top 5 pick just last season who has fresh young legs, and you act like it's some sort of guarantee that the Texans will eat his lunch. If it isn't sour grapes it's just homerism getting in the way of rationale thinking.
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Ehh, he ain't that fresh....dude already has 1278543 screws in his ankle...all in all i still think he'll be good for them...just don't think he makes them that much better. They still have o-line and pass rush issues they have to address.

Ultimately I don't think he's worth a 1st rounder...
 
Can you please explain the "Colts are continuously getting better comment", because it's not like Houston is staying status quo here. The entire division outside of Jax is "continuously getting better"... including Houston who already have two stud to very good RBs.. (And yes, I'd take a healthy Ben Tate over Trent Richardson.) and who greatly improved the potency of their passing game with DeAndre Hopkins and this is without Posey taking the field yet. We offer WAY WAY more things for the Colts to worry about defensively then they do us.. even with Richardson

Sorry you can call it "sour grapes" all you want, but I'm not high on the "Alabama RB" that has been coming into the league over the last few years (the Saben years). Mark Ingram the Heisman winner was a product of his system and while I do think Richardson is a much better player a lot of the production that got these guys drafted so high was because of the massive offensive lines they played behind at Alabama.

Does Trent Richardson make the Colts better.. yes.

Am I going to shake in my boots about it though.. no. I think they overpaid and I hope they continue to trade away their draft picks. Especially first and second rounders

The Colts blew the team up a few years ago and went 1-15, it's pretty obvious they were going to improve, especially after landing Andrew Luck. Houston just has to keep taking care of their own business (like landing players like Watt and Hopkins, ect) and they'll still be in the playoff hunt for the foreseeable future. LOL, it's not like the AFC South was always going to be a one horse race... welcome to what other playoff teams deal with almost on a year to year basis (The NFC West, the NFC North, the NFC East, the NFC South, and the AFC North)
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Yeah but Luck is way better than Weeden is. More of a threat. Teams playing Cleveland could just zero in on Richardson. Can't do that against Luck and Indy.

We'll see.
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Exactly, a good add for them unfortunately.

This division is shaping up to be interesting. STill think the Texans should take it but the Titans and Colts are not going to hand it to us.

This makes the Colts better IMO and that's all that matters.

Also can't see us trading away Ben Tate middle of the season unless it is for immediate help. Superbowl contenders don't need draft picks.
 
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