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"Mario Williams sues ex-fiancee for $785,000 ring"

HJam72

Hall of Fame
Sucker.

First thing he should have done is bought her a ring of the same expense the average Joe can afford and see if she balks.

Buying a trophy wife / paying an escort; only difference is the duration of the deal.
 

HOU-TEX

Ah, Football!
I'm not sure what he expects to come from this lawsuit. I can't see him getting anything back, but he'll get to spend some more on her by paying lawyer and court fees I reckon.

Paying that much for a ring puts you in the "reap what you sow" category, imo of course
 

ChampionTexan

Hall of Fame
To paraphrase H.L Hunt's comment about his son Lamar's first season in KC:

"This is horrible - another 120 or 121 broken engagements, and Mario will be broke".
 

Fred

Veteran
Cubic Z Mario. Put it in a nice setting she will never know. Unless she gets it checked out. Then you can play the "I knew you didn't trust me" card and its her fault for checking up.

On an unrelated note, I don't understand why my relationships don't work out better ...
 

fiasco west

All Pro
I'll side with Mario on this one.

Maybe he's a bit gullible here but who knows? Maybe he has been with the girl for a long time and that made her easy to trust. Obviously he wanted to marry her and was fooled by her charade. Doesn't make him wrong just makes him naive to think that there aren't women out there that will only see him for what he's financially worth.

That ring isn't worth that much compared to how much he's being paid though. This seems more like a principle thing.
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
I'll never understand why a woman would think that they were entitled to keep an engagement ring from someone they did not marry. That's something that should be returned the moment you call it off. I don't know what kind of legal precedent might exist where this is concerned but I believe that in a world where what's right prevails this should be a slam-dunk for Mario. If she can't return the ring she should be facing jail time.
 

infantrycak

Hall of Fame
Texas is a conditional gift state. If she called it off, he gets it back. If he called it off, she keeps it.
 

StarStruck

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
Texas is a conditional gift state. If she called it off, he gets it back. If he called it off, she keeps it.
That was my understanding. What would be Mario's next course of action if she "sold" the ring and now claim to be broke?
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
What do they say about a fool and his $$$$.

Couldn't have happened to nicer guy.

When does BoB get back all of the $$$$ he stole from the Texans. Or the Bills for the $$$$ he stole from them last yr?
 

SAMURAITEXAN

All Pro
The price you pay for being rich and famous. I think Mario needs to understand a few things for his future relationship.

1. Need to take time and make sure she is the one before you make any kind of commitment including finance.
2. Mario is well known figure(rich and famous) and people tends to come to him just for that reason.
3. His life style is very different from normal folks and sometime spending a large amount of money on someone can manipulate their behavior and thinking unintentionally.

I kinda feel for him though. When you meet someone you really love, you kind go blind about everything and just trying everything to keep that person in your life.

For his ex-fiance, I think she should give a ring back to him as a nice gesture for her part. You know, she could have done to Mario much worst by marrying him for a several years and got much more money from Mario.
Ar least she broke up with Mario before really damaging his life. Mario should learn his lesson from this relationship.
 

StarStruck

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
The price you pay for being rich and famous. I think Mario needs to understand a few things for his future relationship.

1. Need to take time and make sure she is the one before you make any kind of commitment including finance.
2. Mario is well known figure(rich and famous) and people tends to come to him just for that reason.
3. His life style is very different from normal folks and sometime spending a large amount of money on someone can manipulate their behavior and thinking unintentionally.

I kinda feel for him though. When you meet someone you really love, you kind go blind about everything and just trying everything to keep that person in your life.

For his ex-fiance, I think she should give a ring back to him as a nice gesture for her part. You know, she could have done to Mario much worst by marrying him for a several years and got much more money from Mario.
Ar least she broke up with Mario before really damaging his life. Mario should learn his lesson from this relationship.
Good post! If the former fiancee' stayed in the relationship long enough to gain Mario's trust, and dump him after getting more than a million dollars through gifts and engagement ring, he could thank her for being so short sighted. Imagine a million dollar wedding at his expense, two kids in two years, salary he earned the two or three years married, could have cost at least ten times more. He should probably consider the gifts the cost of tuition to the university of hard knocks, but he should get the ring back if she still has it. If not she should be indebted to him until the cost is paid in full.
 

gg no re

iggnorent
Good post! If the former fiancee' stayed in the relationship long enough to gain Mario's trust, and dump him after getting more than a million dollars through gifts and engagement ring, he could thank her for being so short sighted.
tbqh... I think she was getting what she could get before it wasn't worth it. Being a socialite/trophy wife in Houston sounds a lot more glamorous than being one in Buffalo.
 

PapaL

Loose Screw
Take her to Judge Judy! She'll make her give the ring back.
No wedding, no ring.

Some things are cheaper to rent. At $785k she would fall into that category.
 

EllisUnit

Vote RED!!!
The man just signed a 90 million dollar contract and he is worried about that ?

Wont matter anyways, that was a "gift" to her in the eyes of the law. He wont be getting the ring or any money out of this lawsuit.
 

infantrycak

Hall of Fame
The man just signed a 90 million dollar contract and he is worried about that ?

Wont matter anyways, that was a "gift" to her in the eyes of the law. He wont be getting the ring or any money out of this lawsuit.
Thanks for your incorrect analysis when the law has already been supplied. Do people actually read threads anymore or just thread titles?
 

paycheck71

Hall of Fame
For the life of me, I don't get all the Mario hate. If you think he isn't any good, he's not here anymore, and someone else is paying him.

In this particular case, I hope he gets back every last penny of that 785K.
 

Double Barrel

Texans Talk Admin
Staff member
Contributor's Club
Mario had better not ever get engaged again. Think about what she will expect when he gave this broad a $785,000, 10-carat diamond engagement ring! :hmmm:
 

HOU-TEX

Ah, Football!
Texas is a conditional gift state. If she called it off, he gets it back. If he called it off, she keeps it.
Hmm, I reckon I was wrong too. I just always thought it was considered a "conditional marriage" in Texas if the couple were together or living together for a certain amount of time. Meaning it would be hers or divided among the two.

I didn't know about the conditional gift stuff. Learn something new every day, I reckon
 

Stemp

Brew Master
For "common law" marriage in TX I believe the couple has to live together and also claim to be married. Just Living together isn't enough. I believe in CA just a single claim
Of being married like checking into a hotel as mr and mrs is enough, as I vaguely remember an escort suing for divorce from one of her rich johns who checked them into a hotel as mr and mrs
 

infantrycak

Hall of Fame
For "common law" marriage in TX I believe the couple has to live together and also claim to be married. Just Living together isn't enough. I believe in CA just a single claim
Of being married like checking into a hotel as mr and mrs is enough, as I vaguely remember an escort suing for divorce from one of her rich johns who checked them into a hotel as mr and mrs
CA does not recognize common law marriage within the state. There is a process for recognizing such marriages from states like Texas which have common law marriage.
 

Dutchrudder

Hall of Fame
Soooo, if the engagement ring is considered a gift, and she gets to keep it, does she have to pay gift tax on the value of the ring?
 

Blake

MMQB
I love how we are all now experts on state and federal gift laws. I hope he gets the ring back just as precidence. If the man is not good enough for you keep, then neither should his engagement ring.
 

The1ApplePie

Hall of Fame
For the life of me, I don't get all the Mario hate. If you think he isn't any good, he's not here anymore, and someone else is paying him.
This board seems to have a trend on hating former players, even if they were cut or traded against their will.

The Jacoby hate I can understand. Mario hate? Eric Winston hate? It is about as old as the VY and Reggie hate.
 

Norg

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785K man that's like 78 dollars to Mario dis fool rich

im surprised the bills haven't sued Mario for stealing there money LOL
 

PapaL

Loose Screw
785K man that's like 78 dollars to Mario dis fool rich

im surprised the bills haven't sued Mario for stealing there money LOL
It's also HIS money to spend as he sees fit. No one else's.

Always amazes me when people try to spend someone else's money.
 

Dread-Head

Hall of Fame
according to most courts of law an engagement ring is conditionary. And ending the engagement nullifies the contract and ya have to give the ring back.
 

DBCooper

Outlaw
Contributor's Club
I love how we are all now experts on state and federal gift laws. I hope he gets the ring back just as precidence. If the man is not good enough for you keep, then neither should his engagement ring.
You do realize that there is at least 1 real life lawyer in this conversation?
 

Double Barrel

Texans Talk Admin
Staff member
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It's also HIS money to spend as he sees fit. No one else's.

Always amazes me when people try to spend someone else's money.
I do not perceive anyone trying to spend his money. And even if they were, I'm not sure what is so amazing about it. But that's just me.

And yes, it is his dough and his right to spend it however he wants to spend it.

That being said, we are also free to express our opinions on how many of us perceive he foolishly spends that money.
 

PapaL

Loose Screw
I do not perceive anyone trying to spend his money. And even if they were, I'm not sure what is so amazing about it. But that's just me.

And yes, it is his dough and his right to spend it however he wants to spend it.

That being said, we are also free to express our opinions on how many of us perceive he foolishly spends that money.
Unless you're making that type of money you don't know what foolish is. I'm sure there are people out there that would think the same about you buying fast food, coffee, new tv, etc...it's all about perception.
 

Double Barrel

Texans Talk Admin
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Unless you're making that type of money you don't know what foolish is. I'm sure there are people out there that would think the same about you buying fast food, coffee, new tv, etc...it's all about perception.
Of course it's about perception. Most things we talk about on this forum are about perceptions.

As far as me not knowing what foolish is, that is your perception. Perhaps I should be amazed that anyone would try to put thoughts into someone else's head just as you seem to be easily amazed when people try to spend someone else's money. But it does not amaze me. I just don't care.

Foolish is defined as lacking good sense or lacking good judgment. You are free to think whatever you want, just like I am free to do the same. And in my own perception, $785,000 for a freakin' ring is foolish regardless of your wealth. Obviously and always, JMO.
 

PapaL

Loose Screw
Of course it's about perception. Most things we talk about on this forum are about perceptions.

As far as me not knowing what foolish is, that is your perception. Perhaps I should be amazed that anyone would try to put thoughts into someone else's head just as you seem to be easily amazed when people try to spend someone else's money. But it does not amaze me. I just don't care.

Foolish is defined as lacking good sense or lacking good judgment. You are free to think whatever you want, just like I am free to do the same. And in my own perception, $785,000 for a freakin' ring is foolish regardless of your wealth. Obviously and always, JMO.
Obviously you do care since you decided to quote me twice and have chosen to keep this ridiculous conversation going. As you said...JMO.
 

pirbroke

Veteran
Besides the law side of this is anyone wondering why Super Man got dumped. Dude is a mountain, rich, famous, all the thing those trophy girls like in a man. Maybe he is all out of proportion, ha ha, but his gardener could fix that problem when he is off pretending to play football in other cities. Hmmmm
 
How screwed up in your head do you have to be to think you can keep an engagement ring after you called off the wedding?

She cray cray.
 

Double Barrel

Texans Talk Admin
Staff member
Contributor's Club
Obviously you do care since you decided to quote me twice and have chosen to keep this ridiculous conversation going. As you said...JMO.
Make it a third time... :neener:

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2012Champs

Hall of Fame
1. He should get the ring back that comes with a hefty unrealized loss

2. It's not nearly as bad of a financial mistake as some here are making it out to be on a percentage basis

3. The hate for Mario is so overdone its unreal
 

HJam72

Hall of Fame
I personally just have an issue with anyone spending that much on a piece of jewelry. Maybe, percentage-wise, it's not as dumb as I'd like to believe, but it still irks me. It also bothers me even more that so many women, when they actually have a choice, just always have to have more, More, MORE. Next, it'll be some woman with a $1,785,000 ring; and then her sister will need a $11,785,000 ring.

Whatever. I won't care as soon as I leave this thre...
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
This board seems to have a trend on hating former players, even if they were cut or traded against their will.

The Jacoby hate I can understand. Mario hate? Eric Winston hate? It is about as old as the VY and Reggie hate.
To be fair, plenty were hating on Mario while he was a Texan.
 
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