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Let's discuss Texans ILB

badboy

Hall of Fame
I am not sold on Reed moving to ILB but either way, Texans will probably draft OLB in top 3 rounds. Last draft it was with pick one (Mercilus). If Reed does not move, tell me what you think we need to replace Bradie James. Will another scrub vet be the direction Phillips goes or will he want a top three round draft selection.

IMO if we draft by round three we could go with a round 4 or after ILB. I like
Klein or Beauharnais in 5th and think he would do well beside Cush and behind Brandon Williams. Also the addition of Ed Reed would make the transition smoother for a late round guy.
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
I am not sold on Reed moving to ILB but either way, Texans will probably draft OLB in top 3 rounds. Last draft it was with pick one (Mercilus). If Reed does not move, tell me what you think we need to replace Bradie James. Will another scrub vet be the direction Phillips goes or will he want a top three round draft selection.

IMO if we draft by round three we could go with a round 4 or after ILB. I like
Klein or Beauharnais in 5th and think he would do well beside Cush and behind Brandon Williams. Also the addition of Ed Reed would make the transition smoother for a late round guy.
I expect us to draft ILB and pick up a vet or two at ILB. If they don't get any other nibbles, I wouldn't be surprised if we sign Dobbins, James, and Ruud and give them a chance to play for a spot.

I'm expecting us to go Bostic or Klein in rounds 3-5.

It's funny. During the season, I was hoping Te'o would fall to us. Now I'm sure he will but I'm not sure if we want to draft either him or Minter in the 1st. And that's what I was hoping we'd do prior to the whole imaginary girlfriend thing.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Yeah I even had a thread asking about T'eo @ 27 but think ILB is much lower on our need list than many do. I wished I had seen more of Ruud.
 

Hottoddie

Veteran
I'm of the opinion that we move Reed to ILB & take one of the stud NT's with our 1st, preferably Hankins if he drops to us. Otherwise, I look to trade down into the early 2nd & take Jenkins out of Georgia. My thinking is that this move will plug up the middle & stop/slow down the runs up the middle.

I'm going WR in the 2nd & hoping that Brandon Jenkins falls to us in the 3rd.

Too bad things rarely fall the way you want them to.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I'm of the opinion that we move Reed to ILB & take one of the stud NT's with our 1st, preferably Hankins if he drops to us. Otherwise, I look to trade down into the early 2nd & take Jenkins out of Georgia. My thinking is that this move will plug up the middle & stop/slow down the runs up the middle.

I'm going WR in the 2nd & hoping that Brandon Jenkins falls to us in the 3rd.

Too bad things rarely fall the way you want them to.
Do you mean Brandon Williams? Or John Jenkins I guess as he plays for Georgia. Took me a minute.
 

Number19

Hall of Fame
When discussing ILB, Wade's defense and the way he plays his LB's has to be part of the discussion. Unless they change things up, Cushing plays the strong side ILB position. Wade will typically blitz this LB 20-25% of the time, but he will also cover underneath in the zone. The weak side ILB position will blitz only about 5 - 10% of the time, but he will have more cover responsibility, having responsibility for the middle of the field in zone.

Ideally, and for the team to really improve defensively, we need a weak side ILB who will be a three down player.

Both Bostic and Klein had respectable production in coverage. I'd also add Klein's teammate, Jake Knott, to the shortlist of possibilities who will be available in the mid-rounds. The draft is deep at this position and we should have an excellent opportunity to upgrade.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
When discussing ILB, Wade's defense and the way he plays his LB's has to be part of the discussion. Unless they change things up, Cushing plays the strong side ILB position. Wade will typically blitz this LB 20-25% of the time, but he will also cover underneath in the zone. The weak side ILB position will blitz only about 5 - 10% of the time, but he will have more cover responsibility, having responsibility for the middle of the field in zone.

Ideally, and for the team to really improve defensively, we need a weak side ILB who will be a three down player.

Both Bostic and Klein had respectable production in coverage. I'd also add Klein's teammate, Jake Knott, to the shortlist of possibilities who will be available in the mid-rounds. The draft is deep at this position and we should have an excellent opportunity to upgrade.
I really like Klein and he is a tackler also. He's my 5th unless I trade it up.
 

silentassassin

Waterboy
I am not sold on Reed moving to ILB but either way, Texans will probably draft OLB in top 3 rounds. Last draft it was with pick one (Mercilus). If Reed does not move, tell me what you think we need to replace Bradie James. Will another scrub vet be the direction Phillips goes or will he want a top three round draft selection.

IMO if we draft by round three we could go with a round 4 or after ILB. I like
Klein or Beauharnais in 5th and think he would do well beside Cush and behind Brandon Williams. Also the addition of Ed Reed would make the transition smoother for a late round guy.
Reed is staying at OLB(at least according to Pancakes): https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/312325604630462465

Makes me think it would come down to looking at ILBs in the draft over OLBs; but they could certainly use depth on the outside again.
 

2slik4u

Veteran
I am not sold on Reed moving to ILB but either way, Texans will probably draft OLB in top 3 rounds. Last draft it was with pick one (Mercilus). If Reed does not move, tell me what you think we need to replace Bradie James. Will another scrub vet be the direction Phillips goes or will he want a top three round draft selection.

IMO if we draft by round three we could go with a round 4 or after ILB. I like
Klein or Beauharnais in 5th and think he would do well beside Cush and behind Brandon Williams. Also the addition of Ed Reed would make the transition smoother for a late round guy.
I'm on board with reed at ILB. Athletic and can tackle. That will force us to take an OLB with a high pick which I'm always behind. Can never have too many pass rushers and Reed wasn't exactly impressing with his skills at that position.

Braman, Mercilus, and draft pick will make a great rotation IMO.

See QB. Get QB. Do sack dance. Congrats. I just wrote those guys' play book for next season.
 

bobbeaux

Noob
I expect us to draft ILB and pick up a vet or two at ILB. If they don't get any other nibbles, I wouldn't be surprised if we sign Dobbins, James, and Ruud and give them a chance to play for a spot.

I'm expecting us to go Bostic or Klein in rounds 3-5.

It's funny. During the season, I was hoping Te'o would fall to us. Now I'm sure he will but I'm not sure if we want to draft either him or Minter in the 1st. And that's what I was hoping we'd do prior to the whole imaginary girlfriend thing.
i wouldn't mind bostic and i'd like dobbins and rudd back as well . . . ;)

i've been leaning towards ilb in the 1st and had been eyeing ogletree or minter . . . i just don't see the value in a wr at 27 when we can get the same quality with our 2nd . . . robert wood keeps catching my attention.

we are in a pretty good position to where we can take bpa of need . . . trading out of the 1st for another 2nd+ would be the way to go if we can find a partner . . . i can't figure out what wade likes at nt so i really can't tell you when he might take 1 . . . they are liable to go fast in the 1st, but we could find value in the 3rd . . . and a safety in the 1st 4 picks is needed for depth . . . so my best value draft would be:

s or ilb (although if the right nt fell)
wr
s or ilb
nt

btw, i don't see reed moving inside full time which takes away the need for the starter there.
 

EllisUnit

Vote RED!!!
I liked Ruud when he was in last year, the guy is in his prime and he played pretty well against the run and the pass last year IMO.
 

Goldensilence

hipster elite
Even if Reed does bump inside at ILB or still stays at OLB, we'd need to address either position in the first 3 rounds IMO.

Personally I'd rather just keep Reed outside, he's already made the transition to the OLB position.

I also thought Merciless showed some nice flashes as he got more PT as the season wore on.
 

dream_team

Hall of Fame
Ideally, and for the team to really improve defensively, we need a weak side ILB who will be a three down player.
Why do you say this? Both Demeco & Bradie was the guy replaced when we went nickel or dime. Are you suggesting Wade change up his defense on passing downs?
 

maddogmrb

Rookie
I would like to see Braman get a shot at ILB. I don't know if he can make it or not but, he seems to have the motor and attitude to make a good one.
 

mussop

Hall of Fame
Why do you say this? Both Demeco & Bradie was the guy replaced when we went nickel or dime. Are you suggesting Wade change up his defense on passing downs?
Wade's only been here for two years. What makes you think Wade wasn't just playing the cards he was dealt? I think letting Quin walk and the signing of Reed shows there is going to be a change in philosophy on defense. Depending on who else we add via FA and the draft it could really change.
 

pec0sb0b

on the lam
Bear with me for a moment...Dug up this great article I read last year about team use of defensive formations. It's worth a look to get a statistical view of the Texans' use of defensive players. Texans don't use a nickel much (2% of defensive snaps in 2011, Phillips' first season with the Texans). In fact they were in the dime almost 40% of the time in 2011. Haven't seen stats for 2012, but I believe they would show the same trend. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/04/11/fantasy-defensive-personnel-packages-%E2%80%93-part-1/

On passing downs they brought in McCain as the third corner and Demps as the third safety, then brought Quin down into what would be the WILB spot in a nickel 2-4-5, using him as a small linebacker, but in a dime package. So it's kind of a nickel, sort of a dime.

In 2011 when they switched to the 3-4, their options at WILB were Ryans, Cushing or Sharpton, none of whom could be considered great in coverage, although Cushing has progressed a great deal since. Increasing use of big tight ends as receivers across the middle of the field is forcing defensive coordinators to look for bigger defenders to cover them. Phillips solution was to use Quin in this nickel-dime hybrid. It worked well in 2011, but then not so well in 2012 as Cushing and Sharpton both spent most of the season on injured reserve. The only players they had on the roster at ILB were run-stoppers, James, Sharpton, Dobbins, Ruud, Alexander. Not a good coverage man in the bunch.

Now Ed Reed has replaced Quin. Reed's not suited for run support or taking on tight-ends in man coverage. His tackling skills are not what they once were, the nerve-impingement issue with his neck, etc. He is suited to play ball-hawk deep in center-field, so Phillips must have a plan to balance his defense. Another safety is probably in the works. I read speculation they might draft at corner instead and move Harris to safety. They could re-sign Demps.

Brooks Reed could be moved to WILB in the base 3-4, but I think would rotate back outside on passing downs. He's a converted 4-3 DE who made an acceptable, not great, transition to 3-4 SOLB. I think it's a bit much to ask him to cover tight ends in the nickel. Moving Brooks Reed would also mean drafting or signing a starting SOLB for the base 3-4 package, assuming Mercilus become the starter at WOLB. Remember then that the defense is in the dime forty percent of the time and then you have either Reed or the new starting SOLB on the bench on passing downs.

If Phillips has indeed been using the dime in preference to the nickel for the last two seasons because he didn't have a viable WILB, then drafting/developing a WILB with cover skills would allow him to use a nickel 2-4-5 instead of falling straight to the dime. Going into the 2013 draft the biggest hole in the defense is at WILB.
 

dream_team

Hall of Fame
Wade's only been here for two years. What makes you think Wade wasn't just playing the cards he was dealt? I think letting Quin walk and the signing of Reed shows there is going to be a change in philosophy on defense. Depending on who else we add via FA and the draft it could really change.
Fair enough. But when we go dime (6 db's), who are the two players from our base package coming out? It's typically the NT and one ILB.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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Fair enough. But when we go dime (6 db's), who are the two players from our base package coming out? It's typically the NT and one ILB.
Not if Short is the Texans 1st rd pick.

I would be extremely happy if Klein and Knott were the 4-5th rd picks.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
When discussing ILB, Wade's defense and the way he plays his LB's has to be part of the discussion. Unless they change things up, Cushing plays the strong side ILB position. Wade will typically blitz this LB 20-25% of the time, but he will also cover underneath in the zone. The weak side ILB position will blitz only about 5 - 10% of the time, but he will have more cover responsibility, having responsibility for the middle of the field in zone.

Ideally, and for the team to really improve defensively, we need a weak side ILB who will be a three down player.

Both Bostic and Klein had respectable production in coverage. I'd also add Klein's teammate, Jake Knott, to the shortlist of possibilities who will be available in the mid-rounds. The draft is deep at this position and we should have an excellent opportunity to upgrade.
In 2011, Cushing played WILB about 40% of the time, but he was moved there on a more FT basis in 2012, at least 60% of the time.
It was Wade's plan from the beginning of the season.

The Texans will probably be looking for a MIKE, if they decide to draft one.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
I am not sold on Reed moving to ILB but either way, Texans will probably draft OLB in top 3 rounds. Last draft it was with pick one (Mercilus). If Reed does not move, tell me what you think we need to replace Bradie James. Will another scrub vet be the direction Phillips goes or will he want a top three round draft selection.

IMO if we draft by round three we could go with a round 4 or after ILB. I like
Klein or Beauharnais in 5th and think he would do well beside Cush and behind Brandon Williams. Also the addition of Ed Reed would make the transition smoother for a late round guy.
Ideally, and for the team to really improve defensively, we need a weak side ILB who will be a three down player.

Both Bostic and Klein had respectable production in coverage. I'd also add Klein's teammate, Jake Knott, to the shortlist of possibilities.
Those guys deserve considerations; I like Sio Moore better both on tapes (he also had good weeks at the Shrine game and the Senior Bowl) and at the combine.

This guy really can play at any of the four LB spots.
He can run with TEs and RBs, even with some slots, too.
He was used everywhere at UConn and played well at each and all spots; extremely versatile.

http://nflsfuture.com/2013/03/08/sio-moore-scouting-report/
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I'm on board with reed at ILB. Athletic and can tackle. That will force us to take an OLB with a high pick which I'm always behind. Can never have too many pass rushers and Reed wasn't exactly impressing with his skills at that position.

Braman, Mercilus, and draft pick will make a great rotation IMO.

See QB. Get QB. Do sack dance. Congrats. I just wrote those guys' play book for next season.
Bolded is why I can see a rookie starting across from one season Mercilus. A rookie Nose on this line also could fit in. I think a vet ILB will start but lower round ILB will be drafted.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
i wouldn't mind bostic and i'd like dobbins and rudd back as well . . . ;)

i've been leaning towards ilb in the 1st and had been eyeing ogletree or minter . . . i just don't see the value in a wr at 27 when we can get the same quality with our 2nd . . . robert wood keeps catching my attention.

we are in a pretty good position to where we can take bpa of need . . . trading out of the 1st for another 2nd+ would be the way to go if we can find a partner . . . i can't figure out what wade likes at nt so i really can't tell you when he might take 1 . . . they are liable to go fast in the 1st, but we could find value in the 3rd . . . and a safety in the 1st 4 picks is needed for depth . . . so my best value draft would be:

s or ilb (although if the right nt fell)
wr
s or ilb
nt

btw, i don't see reed moving inside full time which takes away the need for the starter there.
May take away need for starter but not necessarily picking OLB in first as we did last draft.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Those guys deserve considerations; I like Sio Moore better both on tapes (he also had good weeks at the Shrine game and the Senior Bowl) and at the combine.

This guy really can play at any of the four LB spots.
He can run with TEs and RBs, even with some slots, too.
He was used everywhere at UConn and played well at each and all spots; extremely versatile.

http://nflsfuture.com/2013/03/08/sio-moore-scouting-report/
Moore is good candidate and would be there @ 57. Three Amigos are discussing him.
 

Rey

Guest
I'm worried about Brooks and merci at olb. That duo doesn't excite me. I need to see more from merciless. I didn't see him show the ability to beat blocks last season or in college really. Reed to me rushes like a good pass rushing dt. That's his pass rush style IMO.

I personally don't think merciless, barwin nor reed are hood pass rushers. I think merciless has the most potential there simply because he's quicker than the other two, but meh....

We need another guy out there, or we need to seriously consider letting braman get some real pass rushing attempts. If we roll reed and merciless out there, our pass rush is going to be about the same as last year. Maybe a little better, nothing to write home about.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
I'm worried about Brooks and merci at olb. That duo doesn't excite me. I need to see more from merciless. I didn't see him show the ability to beat blocks last season or in college really. Reed to me rushes like a good pass rushing dt. That's his pass rush style IMO.

I personally don't think merciless, barwin nor reed are hood pass rushers. I think merciless has the most potential there simply because he's quicker than the other two, but meh....

We need another guy out there, or we need to seriously consider letting braman get some real pass rushing attempts. If we roll reed and merciless out there, our pass rush is going to be about the same as last year. Maybe a little better, nothing to write home about.
Is Shaun Phillips still available?
Would you consider him?
If so, for how long and how much ?
 

Rey

Guest
Is Shaun Phillips still available?
Would you consider him?
If so, for how long and how much ?
Honestly, I don't know. I haven't seen him play in a while tbh.

But if he's got anything left I'd consider a two year deal, but not really sure on the money...


Hindsight is 20/20, but it would have been nice a couple years ago to package Mario and whatever else to acquire denvers pick and grab Von miller while keeping our own pick and still having watt.

I know, I know....unrealistic but it's fun to think about..:drool:
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
Is Shaun Phillips still available?
Would you consider him?
If so, for how long and how much ?
Honestly, I don't know. I haven't seen him play in a while tbh.

But if he's got anything left I'd consider a two year deal, but not really sure on the money...


Hindsight is 20/20, but it would have been nice a couple years ago to package Mario and whatever else to acquire denvers pick and grab Von miller while keeping our own pick and still having watt.

I know, I know....unrealistic but it's fun to think about..:drool:
9.5 sacks last year.

Probably his last contract; perhaps 3.5-4M per for 2-3 years, just my guess.
 

Number19

Hall of Fame
Why do you say this? Both Demeco & Bradie was the guy replaced when we went nickel or dime. Are you suggesting Wade change up his defense on passing downs?
Last season we were beaten up by the new breed of large & quick TE coming across into the shallow middle zone. We were also taken advantage of by the faster paced teams when we were just a bit slow with our substitutions. By having a larger LB ( say 6'-2", 250 lbs, running in the 4.6 range ) we match up better against these TE's, while giving Wade more flexibility in his defensive calls. I get a feeling that Wade hasn't quite had the personnel to fully execute his defense and this would be improved by a three down ILB.

A large ,strong, fast SS who could play in the box and who could help seal the middle against the run would also help.

All defenses have a weak spot which can be attacked. Wade's 1-gap 34 defense has it's weak spot right up the middle and this is where we need the most improvement.
 

Number19

Hall of Fame
In 2011, Cushing played WILB about 40% of the time, but he was moved there on a more FT basis in 2012, at least 60% of the time.
It was Wade's plan from the beginning of the season.

The Texans will probably be looking for a MIKE, if they decide to draft one.
Thanks for clearing this up. I did read that DeMeco played the weakside because he was not a strong pass rusher; and Cushing was on the strongside. Of course Wade will change things up, but I would love to have Cushing rushing up the middle.
 

thunderkyss

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I am not sold on Reed moving to ILB but either way, Texans will probably draft OLB in top 3 rounds. Last draft it was with pick one (Mercilus). If Reed does not move, tell me what you think we need to replace Bradie James. Will another scrub vet be the direction Phillips goes or will he want a top three round draft selection.

IMO if we draft by round three we could go with a round 4 or after ILB. I like
Klein or Beauharnais in 5th and think he would do well beside Cush and behind Brandon Williams. Also the addition of Ed Reed would make the transition smoother for a late round guy.
IMO, we need to find a place where Reed can shine. He's a second round pick. He is not a pass rusher, so we really don't need him taking the majority of his snaps on the line.

Move him back, next to Cushing & give him an opportunity to make more plays. Like Cuhsing, he was the Strongside LB. In a 3-4 as opposed to a 4-3, but they play pretty much the same. Moving Reed would be like moving Cushing. But since he's not scraping at the line with TEs or slot receivers, he should fare a little better.

On passing downs, we can put him back on the line like a 4-3 DE if his replacement isn't up to snuff. But we need to find another pass rusher, just in case we've already seen the best of Whitney Merciless.

Heck, I'd probably rather see Mr. Alexander or Sharpton play the SOLB position on 1st & 2nd downs than Reed, along with drafting an outside pass rusher, because Reed ain't an outside pass rusher.
 

thunderkyss

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I'm worried about Brooks and merci at olb. That duo doesn't excite me. I need to see more from merciless. I didn't see him show the ability to beat blocks last season or in college really. Reed to me rushes like a good pass rushing dt. That's his pass rush style IMO.

I personally don't think merciless, barwin nor reed are hood pass rushers. I think merciless has the most potential there simply because he's quicker than the other two, but meh....

We need another guy out there, or we need to seriously consider letting braman get some real pass rushing attempts. If we roll reed and merciless out there, our pass rush is going to be about the same as last year. Maybe a little better, nothing to write home about.
Totally agree with this post.... well except that Merci, Barwin, or Reed aren't hood pass rushers... I don't know what they did in the hood.

:kitten:

But we definitely need to find an outside pass rusher. I want a WR or even a OG (LG specifically) so badly, but if we get a pass rusher in the first, I won't be mad.
 

thunderkyss

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Last season we were beaten up by the new breed of large & quick TE coming across into the shallow middle zone. We were also taken advantage of by the faster paced teams when we were just a bit slow with our substitutions. By having a larger LB ( say 6'-2", 250 lbs, running in the 4.6 range ) we match up better against these TE's, while giving Wade more flexibility in his defensive calls. I get a feeling that Wade hasn't quite had the personnel to fully execute his defense and this would be improved by a three down ILB.

A large ,strong, fast SS who could play in the box and who could help seal the middle against the run would also help.

All defenses have a weak spot which can be attacked. Wade's 1-gap 34 defense has it's weak spot right up the middle and this is where we need the most improvement.
Glover Quin is 6'0" 207 lbs.... probably runs in the 4.6-4.5 range. I think a 6-2 220lb linebacker that runs a 4.6 would be ideal. If he can turn his hips like a DB that is. He'll have to turn & run with these TEs.
 

dream_team

Hall of Fame
Last season we were beaten up by the new breed of large & quick TE coming across into the shallow middle zone. We were also taken advantage of by the faster paced teams when we were just a bit slow with our substitutions. By having a larger LB ( say 6'-2", 250 lbs, running in the 4.6 range ) we match up better against these TE's, while giving Wade more flexibility in his defensive calls. I get a feeling that Wade hasn't quite had the personnel to fully execute his defense and this would be improved by a three down ILB.

A large ,strong, fast SS who could play in the box and who could help seal the middle against the run would also help.

All defenses have a weak spot which can be attacked. Wade's 1-gap 34 defense has it's weak spot right up the middle and this is where we need the most improvement.
I don't really recall us having big problems against defending tight ends last season. Aaron Hernandez had decent games, but nothing spectacular. I thought GQ and Manning did a good job covering TEs. In fact, football outsiders ranked us 4th in the league against opposing tight ends.
 

GP

Go Texans!
I would like to see Braman get a shot at ILB. I don't know if he can make it or not but, he seems to have the motor and attitude to make a good one.
At WTAMU, the d-coord had Braman playing everywhere but CB and S.

He'd be a DE on play, then on the other side as an OLB. He wreaked havoc no matter where he was placed.

The thing about Braman is that he wears down opposing linemen. In the Texans-Jets preseason game in 2011, and I know it wasn't against 1st teamers but still...Braman wore his OLineman out to the point that Braman was getting to the QB a lot at the end of the game.

Something that could never be said of Connor Barwin.

I don't know if Braman will ever be used for more than ST, though. I wish he'd get more chances at LB, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 

drs23

Veteran
At WTAMU, the d-coord had Braman playing everywhere but CB and S.

He'd be a DE on play, then on the other side as an OLB. He wreaked havoc no matter where he was placed.

The thing about Braman is that he wears down opposing linemen. In the Texans-Jets preseason game in 2011, and I know it wasn't against 1st teamers but still...Braman wore his OLineman out to the point that Braman was getting to the QB a lot at the end of the game.

Something that could never be said of Connor Barwin.

I don't know if Braman will ever be used for more than ST, though. I wish he'd get more chances at LB, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I know you're pretty high on him GP as was his former coach(?) that put a bug in Rick's/Wade's ear to give him a chance. He's been killer on teams. The only negative I've heard/read about his play is he needs more experience.

How does one acquire this so called "experience"? :thinking:
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Totally agree with this post.... well except that Merci, Barwin, or Reed aren't hood pass rushers... I don't know what they did in the hood.

:kitten:

But we definitely need to find an outside pass rusher. I want a WR or even a OG (LG specifically) so badly, but if we get a pass rusher in the first, I won't be mad.
I think we will find Wade Smith spending his last season at LG with Brooks @ RG. In '14 Brooks will move to LG and we will draft OG for right. Hint, we might select OT later this month that could also play RG.
 

otisbean

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Those guys deserve considerations; I like Sio Moore better both on tapes (he also had good weeks at the Shrine game and the Senior Bowl) and at the combine.

This guy really can play at any of the four LB spots.
He can run with TEs and RBs, even with some slots, too.
He was used everywhere at UConn and played well at each and all spots; extremely versatile.

http://nflsfuture.com/2013/03/08/sio-moore-scouting-report/
I like Moore quite a bit as well. I really like his versatility, as you mentioned. I'm also a big fan of Collins for the same reason. Hell, I'd love to add both Moore and Collins. We HAVE to improve our pass rush or we'll never beat the top teams in the AFC
 

otisbean

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I'm worried about Brooks and merci at olb. That duo doesn't excite me. I need to see more from merciless. I didn't see him show the ability to beat blocks last season or in college really. Reed to me rushes like a good pass rushing dt. That's his pass rush style IMO.

I personally don't think merciless, barwin nor reed are hood pass rushers. I think merciless has the most potential there simply because he's quicker than the other two, but meh....

We need another guy out there, or we need to seriously consider letting braman get some real pass rushing attempts. If we roll reed and merciless out there, our pass rush is going to be about the same as last year. Maybe a little better, nothing to write home about.
Agree 100%
 
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