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There's a reason Ed Reed won't put Houston over the top

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handswarmer

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/c...-reason-ed-reed-wont-put-houston-over-the-top

I don't know what there is about the guy (Schaub), but something's missing. I just get the feeling that until or unless Houston finds someone else at quarterback the Texans aren't going farther than an early exit from the playoffs.



And last time I checked Ed Reed didn't play quarterback.



Schaub just can't make the plays that, say, Joe Flacco did last year or Eli Manning did the year before that. Both were Super Bowl MVPs, and check the list, people: The last four Super Bowl MVPs have been quarterbacks. That's because they're the guys who make the difference; not safeties, and especially not 35-year-old safeties nearing the finish line.



Ed Reed was a difference maker once; he's not a difference maker now. Houston is about to find out.
 
You spend more time here than on your own board. You've spent 473 posts pushing your anti-Ed-Reed-to-another-team agenda. We get it. Go away. We also know Matt Schaubs limitations, waaaaayyyy better than you do. Leave our mediocre QB alone and go back to your overpayed but good QB.
 
Schaub is a good, not great, but good QB. Would I like a better QB? Of course, who wouldn't. But I don't think it was Schaub who gave up 40+ points to Rodgers and Brady last year.
 
Brandon420tx said:
You spend more time here than on your own board. You've spent 473 posts pushing your anti-Ed-Reed-to-another-team agenda. We get it. Go away. We also know Matt Schaubs limitations, waaaaayyyy better than you do. Leave our mediocre QB alone and go back to your overpayed but good QB.
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Save it bud- I've got over 15,000 posts on a KC board, over 10,000 on a Ravens board.

I go where I want; Land of the Free and all....
 
You took an article that was 80% about Matt Schaubs' shortcomings but you only cared about 2 words in it: Ed and Reed. I read every single post in the Ed Reed thread. Your comments were worth looking into and after doing so I came to my own conclusion that you were extremely distraught about losing one of your favorite players and to compensate you have to accentuate any flaws he may or may not have. While I didn't care whether he came to Houston or not because there were pros and cons to either outcome, he will now be playing for the Texans so your petty little vendetta gets on my nerves. We don't need another Ed Reed thread at this time when we have a perfectly suitable one one thread down already.

As for that awful article. No one thinks that Ed Reed joining the Texans will fix what's wrong with the offense. The fact that the author attempts to make a connection between to the two is sad. He is obviously making his deadline by using a somewhat high profile event to open the door for his opinion on the Texans offense so he can file it away and reference it whenever he gets a chance to say "Look I told you so!" So anytime Ed Reed or Matt Schaub have a bad game or get injured you can look forward to another Clark Judge article so you can come back here and once again push your agenda.

Cheers!
I gotta football game to go play
 
handswarmer said:
But Schaub couldn't get them back in the game either.
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I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the Texans and Ravens both scored 28 points against the Patriots.

If the Raven's defense gave up a fortyburger, nobody gives a crap about Joe Flacco today unless they're making articles about how he can't get it done because something is missing.
 
handswarmer said:
But Schaub couldn't get them back in the game either.
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So, the expectation out of your QB/offense is to score 45+ points to win? That's completely unrealistic unless you do have a Rodgers or a Brady as your QB. Schaub was doing just fine for the first 2/3ds of last season, and then regressed terribly. We'll just have to see what happens next season. They can't just go and find a HOF QB on the street. They have to work with the one they have. But they did go and find a HOF safety, which they believe makes their team better. That article makes very little sense, comparing apples to oranges and offering no solutions. Lazy writing if you ask me.
 
Lessor QBs than Schaub have won a Super Bowl, but they certainly weren't the MVP. We can win a Super Bowl with Schaub, but a lot of other pieces have to fit together for it to happen.
 
handswarmer said:
But Schaub couldn't get them back in the game either.
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Week 7

People forget how well Schaub did. I think Schaub is a top five QB. Our O - line went to crap.

Passing Leaders
BAL C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS
Flacco 21/43 147 3.4 1 2 4-26
HOU C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS
Schaub 23/37 256 6.9 2 0 2-17

This is with the ravens defense healthy and the game was at Baltimore
 
Goatcheese said:
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the Texans and Ravens both scored 28 points against the Patriots.

If the Raven's defense gave up a fortyburger, nobody gives a crap about Joe Flacco today unless they're making articles about how he can't get it done because something is missing.
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Ding ding ding! Winner! Thanks for great responses.
 
paycheck71 said:
Schaub is a good, not great, but good QB. Would I like a better QB? Of course, who wouldn't. But I don't think it was Schaub who gave up 40+ points to Rodgers and Brady last year.
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If the offense maintains long sustaining drives and scores touchdowns, that makes the job of the defense easier.

The NFL has organized its rules to bring about high scoring games and protecting the QB, that is a fact. Therefore, any offense better perform well in order to limit the opportunities that an opposing marquee QB has in any game.

The main issue I saw regarding the games against the Patriots and the Packers was a poorly designed and conservative offensive game plan that relied on the defense to keep those games low scoring.

In my opinion, the Texans would get more wins with Kubiak being more creative and utilizing the pieces he has more effectively than expecting the defense to keep the scoring of games in the low teens.
 
handswarmer said:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/c...-reason-ed-reed-wont-put-houston-over-the-top

I don't know what there is about the guy (Schaub), but something's missing. I just get the feeling that until or unless Houston finds someone else at quarterback the Texans aren't going farther than an early exit from the playoffs.



And last time I checked Ed Reed didn't play quarterback.



Schaub just can't make the plays that, say, Joe Flacco did last year or Eli Manning did the year before that. Both were Super Bowl MVPs, and check the list, people: The last four Super Bowl MVPs have been quarterbacks. That's because they're the guys who make the difference; not safeties, and especially not 35-year-old safeties nearing the finish line.



Ed Reed was a difference maker once; he's not a difference maker now. Houston is about to find out.
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Thread would of had a lot more credibilty had it not been started by a Ravens fan. I saw this article a few days ago, but i dont buy it.

Although Schaub is a weak link, you should know that Teams can win the Superbowl with a So So QB. Hence Trent Dilfer and yalls 2000 title.
 
Brandon420tx said:
You took an article that was 80% about Matt Schaubs' shortcomings but you only cared about 2 words in it: Ed and Reed. I read every single post in the Ed Reed thread. Your comments were worth looking into and after doing so I came to my own conclusion that you were extremely distraught about losing one of your favorite players and to compensate you have to accentuate any flaws he may or may not have. While I didn't care whether he came to Houston or not because there were pros and cons to either outcome, he will now be playing for the Texans so your petty little vendetta gets on my nerves. We don't need another Ed Reed thread at this time when we have a perfectly suitable one one thread down already.

As for that awful article. No one thinks that Ed Reed joining the Texans will fix what's wrong with the offense. The fact that the author attempts to make a connection between to the two is sad. He is obviously making his deadline by using a somewhat high profile event to open the door for his opinion on the Texans offense so he can file it away and reference it whenever he gets a chance to say "Look I told you so!" So anytime Ed Reed or Matt Schaub have a bad game or get injured you can look forward to another Clark Judge article so you can come back here and once again push your agenda.

Cheers!
I gotta football game to go play
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Hey, they have medication for that itch you have whenever you read one of my posts.
 
Goatcheese said:
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the Texans and Ravens both scored 28 points against the Patriots.

If the Raven's defense gave up a fortyburger, nobody gives a crap about Joe Flacco today unless they're making articles about how he can't get it done because something is missing.
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this. matt schaub certainly has his shortcomings, but it wasn't schaub that couldnt keep pace with the patriots and packers - it was our defense. most notably on defense was the lack of a roaming (and reliable) centerfielder to make quarterbacks second guess that deep ball. the same position also takes a lot of blame for the colts loss. cushing and ed reed against the patriots means possible advancement more than a minor upgrade at quarterback would.
 
HouSportsWriter said:
Week 7

People forget how well Schaub did. I think Schaub is a top five QB. Our O - line went to crap.

Passing Leaders
BAL C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS
Flacco 21/43 147 3.4 1 2 4-26
HOU C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS
Schaub 23/37 256 6.9 2 0 2-17

This is with the ravens defense healthy and the game was at Baltimore
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Really> Healthy? That's about as an accurate statement as you saying the game was in Baltimore. Didn't know Reliant Stadium was this far north....

'The Ravens (5-2), meanwhile, missed star linebacker Ray Lewis, who was placed on injured reserve this week with a torn triceps. Terrell Suggs, last year's defensive player of the year, saw his first action since undergoing surgery on his right Achilles tendon last May. Suggs sacked Schaub in the first quarter and finished with three solo tackles.

Otherwise, Baltimore's defense seemed overmatched without Lewis and cornerback Lardarius Webb, who were placed on injured reserve this week. Safety Ed Reed, who acknowledged this week that he's been playing with a torn labrum in his right shoulder, left in the fourth quarter with a chest injury. Reed said he felt fine after the game."

Healthy.....
 
EllisUnit said:
Thread would of had a lot more credibilty had it not been started by a Ravens fan. I saw this article a few days ago, but i dont buy it.

Although Schaub is a weak link, you should know that Teams can win the Superbowl with a So So QB. Hence Trent Dilfer and yalls 2000 title.
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Credibility based on a fans allegiance? LOL Sure.

Your defense is no where in the same solar system as the Ravens of 2000- so you can forget about that approach.

Wait, the Bears tried that with Rex Grossman a few years ago and you see how that worked out for them....
 
hollywood_texan said:
If the offense maintains long sustaining drives and scores touchdowns, that makes the job of the defense easier.

The NFL has organized its rules to bring about high scoring games and protecting the QB, that is a fact. Therefore, any offense better perform well in order to limit the opportunities that an opposing marquee QB has in any game.

The main issue I saw regarding the games against the Patriots and the Packers was a poorly designed and conservative offensive game plan that relied on the defense to keep those games low scoring.

In my opinion, the Texans would get more wins with Kubiak being more creative and utilizing the pieces he has more effectively than expecting the defense to keep the scoring of games in the low teens.
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This.

Kubiak wore out the defense by calling conservative plays that led to consistent 3 and outs.
 
Thorn said:
Lessor QBs than Schaub have won a Super Bowl, but they certainly weren't the MVP. We can win a Super Bowl with Schaub, but a lot of other pieces have to fit together for it to happen.
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Putting Schaub aside I don't think lots of QB's should have gotten all those MVP's. Boldin was clearly the MVP IMO for instance. You could even make an argument for Jacoby (that hurt to type).

hollywood_texan said:
If the offense maintains long sustaining drives and scores touchdowns, that makes the job of the defense easier.
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The Texans O had a better TOP than the Ravens O to get the same number of points. You're just making excuses for the D with good sounding generalizations.
 
Reed may not put the Texans over the top, but we know with certainty that he won't be puting the Ravens over the top anymore either.

That article is awful. We are all fully aware that Reed doesn't improve us at the QB position.
 
If Dilfer can win a super bowl. So can Schaub.


Granted the Ravens defense was historically good that year
 
Goatcheese said:
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the Texans and Ravens both scored 28 points against the Patriots.

If the Raven's defense gave up a fortyburger, nobody gives a crap about Joe Flacco today unless they're making articles about how he can't get it done because something is missing.
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What does comparing scoring against a common opponent do? Nothing really.

If's and buts were hickory nuts....
 
handswarmer said:
Credibility based on a fans allegiance? LOL Sure.

Your defense is no where in the same solar system as the Ravens of 2000- so you can forget about that approach.

Wait, the Bears tried that with Rex Grossman a few years ago and you see how that worked out for them....
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Considering the fan is of a team whos HOF Safety we just signed. Makes it look like u are trying to make yourself feel better is all i'm saying.

And yes but Schaub is way better than Difler ever was, so it kinda evens out.
 
Wolf said:
If Dilfer can win a super bowl. So can Schaub.


Granted the Ravens defense was historically good that year
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You realize that the Texans Defense gave up more than TWICE as many points this past year as the Ravens defense in 2000?

The Texans defense of 2012 would have ranked 17th in Total Points allowed during the 2000 Season...average instead of 9th...

2012 Texans Defense was pretty good- but it doesn't hold a candle to that 2000 Ravens team so lets forget the Dilfer comparisons when it comes to Schaub.
 
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Only reason there is a conversation about flacco

Football Gods smiled on the ravens in one desperate play or they would have been one and done.

However my hats are off to the Flacco and the Ravens. For making the most of it and defeating two first ballot HOF quarterbacks in a single playoff run
 
Wolf said:
If Dilfer can win a super bowl. So can Schaub.

Granted the Ravens defense was historically good that year
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Not that you were attempting to do this but equating Schaub to Dilfer is whack. Dilfer averaged 136 ypg on the SB run. He couldn't hit the side of a barn and if he did get it near someone it was just as likely to be the opposing team than his own (actually over his career more likely to be the opposing team). They are not similar QB's in any regard.
 
handswarmer said:
You realize that the Texans Defense gave up more than TWICE as many points this past year as the Ravens defense in 2000?

The Texans defense of 2012 would have ranked 17th in Total Points allowed during the 2000 Season...average instead of 9th...

2012 Texans Defense was pretty good- but it doesn't hold a candle to that 2000 Ravens team so lets forget the Dilfer comparisons when it comes to Schaub.
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You realize the Texans offense has been ranked very highly over the last few years ?

The Texan defense doesn't have to be historically good
Why not compare? Dilfer, like Schaub, is a game manager. Both realistically arent going to take over a game? Texans need Schaub to keep the turnovers down and move the ball a bit
 
infantrycak said:
Not that you were attempting to do this but equating Schaub to Dilfer is whack. Dilfer averaged 136 ypg on the SB run. He couldn't hit the side of a barn and if he did get it near someone it was just as likely to be the opposing team than his own (actually over his career more likely to be the opposing team). They are not similar QB's in any regard.
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Exactly, I was just meaning that anything is possible
 
EllisUnit said:
Considering the fan is of a team whos HOF Safety we just signed. Makes it look like u are trying to make yourself feel better is all i'm saying.

And yes but Schaub is way better than Difler ever was, so it kinda evens out.
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I'll go as far as agreeing that Schaub us better than Dilfer.

Not sure what you are implying here; he will be a HOF Safety; he left chasing some $$, his play was declining and his constant offseason "will he retire or won't he?" wears thin after awhile....I am sad to see him leave for his legacy sake but won't miss his missed tackles and gambling in the backend.
 
handswarmer said:
You realize that the Texans Defense gave up more than TWICE as many points this past year as the Ravens defense in 2000?

The Texans defense of 2012 would have ranked 17th in Total Points allowed during the 2000 Season...average instead of 9th...

2012 Texans Defense was pretty good- but it doesn't hold a candle to that 2000 Ravens team so lets forget the Dilfer comparisons when it comes to Schaub.
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What about the 2013 Texans defense then?

Since adding Ed Reed is a move meant to improve the teams defense and the comment about needing a 'So-so' QB applies then.

Even so, Schaub is more than 'so-so'
 
fiasco west said:
What about the 2013 Texans defense then?

Since adding Ed Reed is a move meant to improve the teams defense and the comment about needing a 'So-so' QB applies then.

Even so, Schaub is more than 'so-so'
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Adding an aging veteran, even if he is a GOAT, wouldn't take the 2013 Texans down to 10 pts a game...

Not with the rule changes, focused spending on Offense, year round 7 on 7 passing camps....

Nope.
 
handswarmer said:
Adding an aging veteran, even if he is a GOAT, wouldn't take the 2013 Texans down to 10 pts a game...

Not with the rule changes, focused spending on Offense, year round 7 on 7 passing camps....

Nope.
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Since u mention this, when the ravens had that defense in 2000 the NFL was a different game. Prob wouldnt of been as dominant in todays Passing NFL.
 
handswarmer said:
What does comparing scoring against a common opponent do? Nothing really.

If's and buts were hickory nuts....
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handswarmer said:
You realize that the Texans Defense gave up more than TWICE as many points this past year as the Ravens defense in 2000?

The Texans defense of 2012 would have ranked 17th in Total Points allowed during the 2000 Season...average instead of 9th...

2012 Texans Defense was pretty good- but it doesn't hold a candle to that 2000 Ravens team so lets forget the Dilfer comparisons when it comes to Schaub.
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The NFL was a completely different animal in 2012 than it was in 2000. DBs could mug a receiver all the way down the field in 2000 and people called it tough, physical football. Now, a receiver runs over a DB and they throw a flag for defensive pass interference.

There are also a lot more quality QBs now than there were back then.

2000
2012

You don't have to go very deep into the 2000 list before you're talking about journeymen.
 
Reed was on a defense that won a championship less than two months ago, so saying he can't be part of a championship defense is freakin ludicrous.
 
infantrycak said:
The Texans O had a better TOP than the Ravens O to get the same number of points. You're just making excuses for the D with good sounding generalizations.
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I don't know what TOP means. Is is it some statistic?

I am merely commenting on what I see with own eyes and using my brain to figure out what is going on.

Against Green Bay in the first half, the offense couldn't get a drive going and therefore fell behind quickly because Rogers got hot quickly. Essentially, the same thing happened against the Patriots in the regular season matchup.

Then in the playoffs, the Texans get a great kickoff return and the offense cannot punch it in for a touchdown. I didn't watch the second half of the Patriots playoff game because I was tired of seeing the same thing repeatedly occurring.

Maybe there are statistics, like the TOP you are referring to, that demonstrate that the Texans offense is more productive than what I can explain with my own words. But the key is being the most productive when it counts the most.

The truth is, the Texans offense struggles when it matters the most and I don't think any statistic can capture that.
 
hollywood_texan said:
I don't know what TOP means. Is is it some statistic?

I am merely commenting on what I see with own eyes and using my brain to figure out what is going on.

Against Green Bay in the first half, the offense couldn't get a drive going and therefore fell behind quickly because Rogers got hot quickly. Essentially, the same thing happened against the Patriots in the regular season matchup.

Then in the playoffs, the Texans get a great kickoff return and the offense cannot punch it in for a touchdown. I didn't watch the second half of the Patriots playoff game because I was tired of seeing the same thing repeatedly occurring.

Maybe there are statistics, like the TOP you are referring to, that demonstrate that the Texans offense is more productive than what I can explain with my own words. But the key is being the most productive when it counts the most.

The truth is, the Texans offense struggles when it matters the most and I don't think any statistic can capture that.
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Truth is a lot of high-powered offense struggled when it mattered the most: usually when they lost the SB. Heck some even struggled in a SB win as well.
 
I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with a forum troll. For one thing he will always have to have the last word, and for another we already know what he's all about. His posts are going to be 80% tearing down Ed Reed like a vindictive ex-girlfriend who was scorned 10% defending Joe Flacco's contract, and 10% insulting Matt Schaub. C'est la vie
 
Thorn said:
Lessor QBs than Schaub have won a Super Bowl, but they certainly weren't the MVP. We can win a Super Bowl with Schaub, but a lot of other pieces have to fit together for it to happen.
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EllisUnit said:
Thread would of had a lot more credibilty had it not been started by a Ravens fan. I saw this article a few days ago, but i dont buy it.

Although Schaub is a weak link, you should know that Teams can win the Superbowl with a So So QB. Hence Trent Dilfer and yalls 2000 title.
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Wolf said:
If Dilfer can win a super bowl. So can Schaub.


Granted the Ravens defense was historically good that year
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It just utterly boggles my mind how people keep referring to Trent Dilfer when making arguments about how Matt Schaub is good enough to win the superbowl.

TRENT DILFER IS THE EXCEPTION NOT THE RULE!!!!!!

My god, what do you think gives you a better chance of winning the superbowl?

A Trent Dilfer level qb or a Brady,Peyton, Rogers, Brees level qb? How about the next tier of elite qbs like Big Ben, Eli, Flacco, Romo type of qbs? Schaub IMO is after that second tier. Above average to average.

Is the degree of difficulty harder to win the superbowl with an average qb or elite and above?

Stop referring to Trent Dilfer. That is a sorry argument. That is not the norm. What I dont like from the front office and more importantly from the fanbase is YOU DONT EVEN WANT TO TRY TO LOOK FOR A BETTER QB OPTION.

You guys act all content and act like its so hard to find someone better than schaub. At least start looking and not wait until schaub eventually sucks it up again or gets injured.

With schaub as your qb, you have to have everything almost perfect to compensate for your qb play. You have to have perfect oline, have to have a running game, you have to have defense, you have to have everything. With an elite superstar qb, you dont have to have everything perfect. A great qb can hide some of your weaknesses.

What do you think is easier to accomplish?

Getting a great qb or getting everything else perfect to support your weak link qb?
 
Funny thing is, handswarmer, your negative commentary/view on Ed Reed (the current version) is akin to what ours is/was on Jacoby Jones. We watched him 50/50 it here and fail to step up when given the chance for a number of years. You have got to watch Reed under perform the past few years, comparatively speaking from his previous astronomically good years. Perhaps Reed does come to Houston and does make difference, and that his tank is not on empty or perhaps it is. We won't know until the season ends. I do not think you will find many that will say that the addition of Reed means a Superbowl for Houston. Schaub cratered the back end of the season last year, we all know he needs to improve if the Texans have any chance of making it to the Superbowl. Not sure if your trying to play the antagonist by posting articles such as this or not. Honestly I wish that the Texans would have held on to Quin, but am not sad that they were able to obtain Reed.
 
Jules, it's not that cut-and-dry, man.
You assume too much.

We can go over the history of the SB and you would see that it's far from the "normalcy" you think it's been.

Schaub's performance in the game against the Pats has a decent chance of winning a SB game. Many QBs who won the SB didn't make a name for himself until he won a SB. Many big-time QBs didn't play well. Some relied on the run game; some relied on the defense; some both.
 
Jules Winnfield said:
It just utterly boggles my mind how people keep referring to Trent Dilfer when making arguments about how Matt Schaub is good enough to win the superbowl.

TRENT DILFER IS THE EXCEPTION NOT THE RULE!!!!!!

My god, what do you think gives you a better chance of winning the superbowl?

A Trent Dilfer level qb or a Brady,Peyton, Rogers, Brees level qb? How about the next tier of elite qbs like Big Ben, Eli, Flacco, Romo type of qbs? Schaub IMO is after that second tier. Above average to average.

Is the degree of difficulty harder to win the superbowl with an average qb or elite and above?

Stop referring to Trent Dilfer. That is a sorry argument. That is not the norm. What I dont like from the front office and more importantly from the fanbase is YOU DONT EVEN WANT TO TRY TO LOOK FOR A BETTER QB OPTION.

You guys act all content and act like its so hard to find someone better than schaub. At least start looking and not wait until schaub eventually sucks it up again or gets injured.

With schaub as your qb, you have to have everything almost perfect to compensate for your qb play. You have to have perfect oline, have to have a running game, you have to have defense, you have to have everything. With an elite superstar qb, you dont have to have everything perfect. A great qb can hide some of your weaknesses.

What do you think is easier to accomplish?

Getting a great qb or getting everything else perfect to support your weak link qb?
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Well if there was a franchise QB , then that...but there isn't so you build around what you have.

Also I guess you conveniently missed the part where I mentioned the Texans just need Schaub to game manage as did the Ravens with Dilfer or even RS Flacco (regular season)
But keep the Schaub hate going, because there isn't going to be a franchise worthy QB late I the first round or in the Texans reach
 
Jules Winnfield said:
It just utterly boggles my mind how people keep referring to Trent Dilfer when making arguments about how Matt Schaub is good enough to win the superbowl.

TRENT DILFER IS THE EXCEPTION NOT THE RULE!!!!!!

My god, what do you think gives you a better chance of winning the superbowl?

A Trent Dilfer level qb or a Brady,Peyton, Rogers, Brees level qb? How about the next tier of elite qbs like Big Ben, Eli, Flacco, Romo type of qbs? Schaub IMO is after that second tier. Above average to average.

Is the degree of difficulty harder to win the superbowl with an average qb or elite and above?

Stop referring to Trent Dilfer. That is a sorry argument. That is not the norm. What I dont like from the front office and more importantly from the fanbase is YOU DONT EVEN WANT TO TRY TO LOOK FOR A BETTER QB OPTION.

You guys act all content and act like its so hard to find someone better than schaub. At least start looking and not wait until schaub eventually sucks it up again or gets injured.

With schaub as your qb, you have to have everything almost perfect to compensate for your qb play. You have to have perfect oline, have to have a running game, you have to have defense, you have to have everything. With an elite superstar qb, you dont have to have everything perfect. A great qb can hide some of your weaknesses.

What do you think is easier to accomplish?

Getting a great qb or getting everything else perfect to support your weak link qb?
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After reading a lot of your posts, how you got that many rep points rather boggles my mind.
 
I don't care how good your QB is, if all he has to throw to is AJ and a one horse running game in Foster, he isn't going to be a whole let better than Schaub. Yes, we do need a better QB than Schaub, but we also need another WR or two and a few more pieces to the line. And Tate to do his damn job.
 
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