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76Texan

Hall of Fame
TE Lucas Reed (Brooks Reed's brother) looks good in catching drills; DeAndre Hopkins (Clemson) did likewise.
 
Brendan Melanophy
S - Fordham
6-1
209

4.44 forty
19 bench
38 vertical
10-6 broad jump

Projected:
FA
 
Marvin Burdette
ILB - UAB
5-10
232
--
4.72
--
--
--
6-FA

Tony Pauline reported that the Texans showed a lot of interest in him.
 
76Texan said:
Marvin Burdette
ILB - UAB
5-10
232
--
4.72
--
--
--
6-FA

Tony Pauline reported that the Texans showed a lot of interest in him.
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Burdette led the nation with 157 total tackles (including assists.)

Here's why:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=vJyvUJX9Y_o&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvJyvUJX9Y_o

The guy is really quick; he can blow up blocks or shed off blocks to make play.
I say make him a FB; we have plenty of comp picks.

Birders tallied 12 tackles at the Casino Del Sol All Star game.
I don't know how much he played. There's a video on YouTube out there.
I might just pull up the full tape to see how many snaps he was in.
 
76Texan said:
Burdette led the nation with 157 total tackles (including assists.)

Here's why:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=vJyvUJX9Y_o&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvJyvUJX9Y_o

The guy is really quick; he can blow up blocks or shed off blocks to make play.
I say make him a FB; we have plenty of comp picks.

Birders tallied 12 tackles at the Casino Del Sol All Star game.
I don't know how much he played. There's a video on YouTube out there.
I might just pull up the full tape to see how many snaps he was in.
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watched this guy play early and was impressed. Forgot all about him.
 
DeAndre Hopkins, who improved his 40-yard dash time and looked impressive catching the ball during drills.

Hopkins ran a 4.57 at the combine but improved that number on Thursday with times in the 4.4's and low 4.5's. As expected, he stood out during catching drills, receiving passes from former quarterback and Clemson assistant Joe Craddock. Hopkins did nothing to hurt his chances of being one of the first wide receivers off the board, possibly in the top 32 picks.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/r...on-prospects-shine-rb-ellington-still-injured
 
Jonathan Stewart
ILB - A&M
6-4
240
4.55 forty
19 bench
31 vertical
9-10 broad
7-FA

Anybody knows about his play?
Big, fast guy with frame to grow it seems?
 
Jake Stoneburner
TE - Ohio St
6-3
252

4.52 forty
18
34.5 vertical
9-8 broad
6-FA

A TE that runs 4.52

I watched him play a little, and wanted to check him out further as I heard some good thing about him.

Another possibility for late round?
 
Glenn Foster
DE/DT Illinois
6-4
286
--
4.79 forty
29 bench
39.5 vertical
10-9 broad
6-FA

Great number for a 3-4 DE
Can Wade teach him to swat down passes???
 
Cody Davis
S - Texas Tech
6-2
204
--
4.41 forty
15
41.5 vertical
10-3 broad
7-FA

...

I need to check this guy out.
 
Mark Watley
S - Arizona
6-2
190
--
4.44 forty

38.5 vert
10-6 broad
FA

...
May need to take a look at this guy as well.
 
Terrell Brown
OT - Ole Miss
6-10
388
--
5.80
22
23.5
6-9
FA
....

Mississippi Pro Day Notes: That's not a typo. Ole Miss has a draft prospect named Terrell Brown who is nearly 400 pounds. Brown's arms were a ridiculously long 38 inches. (at 6'10)

22 reps with 38-inch arm is pretty ridiculous.
Can we put dancing shoes on this humonguous bear? :brando:
 
*DT Spencer Nealy was the star of the show. While his workout was okay, his comedic timing was amazing. Nealy had guys like "Mean" Joe Green, Dennis Allen and Rex Ryan chuckling at some of his commentary during workouts, including when he tripped and fell over a blocking dummy and screamed out "f@ck*ing chop block!"
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link
 
76Texan said:
Glenn Foster
DE/DT Illinois
6-4
286
--
4.79 forty
29 bench
39.5 vertical
10-9 broad
6-FA

Great number for a 3-4 DE
Can Wade teach him to swat down passes???
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20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.45
3-Cone Drill: 7.15

Darn impressive numbers. Have to look at his tape.
 
76Texan said:
Terrell Brown
OT - Ole Miss
6-10
388
--
5.80
22
23.5
6-9
FA
....

Mississippi Pro Day Notes: That's not a typo. Ole Miss has a draft prospect named Terrell Brown who is nearly 400 pounds. Brown's arms were a ridiculously long 38 inches. (at 6'10)

22 reps with 38-inch arm is pretty ridiculous.
Can we put dancing shoes on this humonguous bear? :brando:
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Why isn't this guy playing NT?
 
76Texan said:
Lucas Reed
TE - New Mexico
6-6
247
--
4.65
27
37
10-2
7-FA

Worth a look?
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I live in nm and used to do a little bit of writing for a local lobo site. I've watched every one of his games that kid is an absolute steal, fantastic hands with regular highlight reel one handed circus catches. Sneaky fast and a good route runner. Will take a hit and has no fear going across the middle. Played in an offense that in his senior year threw the ball a grand total of 154 times in 13 games usually in third an 25 situations. Played his entire career under the historically inept offensive coaching of mike locksley. Look at his sophomore campaign that was the only time that he had a qb (4 different ones that year) who wasn't off the d3 scrap pile. Third team all American as a freshmen.

Hugely underrated. Absolute steal that could be grabbed in the 6-udfa. I have posted a couple of times about this kid already.
 
jppaul said:
I live in nm and used to do a little bit of writing for a local lobo site. I've watched every one of his games that kid is an absolute steal, fantastic hands with regular highlight reel one handed circus catches. Sneaky fast and a good route runner. Will take a hit and has no fear going across the middle. Played in an offense that in his senior year threw the ball a grand total of 154 times in 13 games usually in third an 25 situations. Played his entire career under the historically inept offensive coaching of mike locksley. Look at his sophomore campaign that was the only time that he had a qb (4 different ones that year) who wasn't off the d3 scrap pile. Third team all American as a freshmen.

Hugely underrated. Absolute steal that could be grabbed in the 6-udfa. I have posted a couple of times about this kid already.
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I'm on board. Thanks for the insight.
 
jppaul said:
I live in nm and used to do a little bit of writing for a local lobo site. I've watched every one of his games that kid is an absolute steal, fantastic hands with regular highlight reel one handed circus catches. Sneaky fast and a good route runner. Will take a hit and has no fear going across the middle. Played in an offense that in his senior year threw the ball a grand total of 154 times in 13 games usually in third an 25 situations. Played his entire career under the historically inept offensive coaching of mike locksley. Look at his sophomore campaign that was the only time that he had a qb (4 different ones that year) who wasn't off the d3 scrap pile. Third team all American as a freshmen.

Hugely underrated. Absolute steal that could be grabbed in the 6-udfa. I have posted a couple of times about this kid already.
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I'm assuming that means he was good at blocking and that was his main function in that offense. Would I be correct? If so, then that would be even better because I think a good blocking TE is what the Texans will be looking for. Does anyone know if the Texans had any scouts/coaches there at his Pro-Day?
 
jppaul said:
I live in nm and used to do a little bit of writing for a local lobo site. I've watched every one of his games that kid is an absolute steal, fantastic hands with regular highlight reel one handed circus catches. Sneaky fast and a good route runner. Will take a hit and has no fear going across the middle. Played in an offense that in his senior year threw the ball a grand total of 154 times in 13 games usually in third an 25 situations. Played his entire career under the historically inept offensive coaching of mike locksley. Look at his sophomore campaign that was the only time that he had a qb (4 different ones that year) who wasn't off the d3 scrap pile. Third team all American as a freshmen.

Hugely underrated. Absolute steal that could be grabbed in the 6-udfa. I have posted a couple of times about this kid already.
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Insideop said:
I'm assuming that means he was good at blocking and that was his main function in that offense. Would I be correct? If so, then that would be even better because I think a good blocking TE is what the Texans will be looking for. Does anyone know if the Texans had any scouts/coaches there at his Pro-Day?
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I just watched the UT game. Reed was pretty good in blocking.
He won a majority of his blocks, including a couple against Jeffcoat.
He never got beat badly, but he did fail to connect on a few second-level block.
It looks more likely due to the blocking scheme calling for him to approach the defenders at certain angle, but the defenders went against the grain. That doesn't hurt the play much.

He looked very comfortable with the cut block and was strong in-line.

I have about 5 more games (from 2010 to 2012) I can watch.
Too bad, none of those games feature him as a pass catcher so it might be difficult to evaluate that part of his game.

He did have 33 catches for a nice average per catch and 5 TDs as a sophomore, and his performance in catching drills at his pro day should lighten up that concern.

In the UT game, he was used mainly as a blocker in the triple pistol option.

I saw him run a shallow crossing route (and was open, due to scheme) and a wheel route (with he defender play back) so I really can't tell about his route running ability. Hopefully, I'll see some of that when I get to the other games.
 
Insideop said:
I'm assuming that means he was good at blocking and that was his main function in that offense. Would I be correct? If so, then that would be even better because I think a good blocking TE is what the Texans will be looking for. Does anyone know if the Texans had any scouts/coaches there at his Pro-Day?
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From a local site:

Lamar "Flash" Thomas ran a 4.36 forty...
Evan Jacobsen bested his weight lifting numbers.
Lucas Reed's brother Brooks (Houston Texans) and his pops were out there as Lucas had a superb Pro Day. Unfortunately Lucas had 10 of his reps on weight lifting not count due to not locking out his arms, he is working to see if they can do it again...
Ugo Uzodinma cut off his dread locks and looked like a huge beast with some wheels, was really impressed.
Freddy Young also performed well...

The scouts that were out there were from the Buffalo Bills, Arizona Cardinals, and Green Bay Packers... As well as a representative for the B.C. Lions of the CFL.

I was able to look over some shoulders and see some of the notes on players. Interest obviously in...

Flash, Lucas, and Evan... Also saw Ugo and Korian Chambers mentioned... At the end Freddy Young getting some interest as well...

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Not sure if any of these young men will be drafted... I think the biggest chance would be Lucas Reed and Flash... Evan Jacobsen maybe, but he is a specialist and for sure all 3 will get invites to camps...
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Lucas got to re-test on the bench and got 25 reps.

25 reps on the bench after already doing 27 about an hour and a half ago, and running like a fool in between is pretty impressive!

Proday video:

http://youtu.be/yEvNZ0bP7ts

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=6811

"Both Lucas Reed and Lamar Thomas carried the momentum of the day and after some terrific marks in testing, each stood out in pass catching drills.

Reed’s forty time of 4.68s would have ranked as top five at the combine. His short shuttle time (4.08s) was by far the best of any tight end who ran at the combine. Reed caught the ball well during the practice session, snatching several fast passes out of the air and displaying consistent hands.

For his part Lamar Thomas also looked good. After running 4.35s in the forty Thomas was exceptional in pass catching drills. He ran terrific routes, displayed soft hands and really impressed those on hand.

Reed will be a last day pick while Thomas will surely find his way into a camp. As mentioned earlier, with weapons at their disposal such as Reed and Thomas, scouts at the pro-day wondered aloud why New Mexico did not throw the ball more in 2012."

In answer we ran an offense that really did not emphasize tight ends but passed quite a bit on bubble/isolation screens. The offense was pitiful under locksley's tenure and much more run oriented under Bob Davie. Kid can inline block but is better at reaching defenders at the second level. Built kind of lean to be an powerful drive blocker but has long arms and can reach and wall off defenders at the second level. IMO, more of a pass weapon but has a world of experience as a run blocker. Very smooth athlete.

And it does not appear the texans were in attendance.
 
UNM 2010 season highlights. Lucas is #97.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irXbLvjtygA

All MWC TE in 2010, Two time John Mackey award candidate, John Mackey TE of the week---November 06 2010. Two time All American, 3rd team as a Freshman, and 2nd team as a Sophomore (also Honorable Mention over all TE by Scout--CFN) SC top ten play of the MONTH for November 2010. Kid's problem has not been being able to play. Kid's problem has been OC's and terrible coaching.
 
b0ng said:
Please tell me I was the one who turned you on to Sio Moore (dreams and wishes)
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To be honest, I don't remember much of anything since we've been talking about too many players. Coulda been you; coulda been that I just look him up by chance. He wasn't on my radar, that's for sure.
 
Lambert said:
UNM 2010 season highlights. Lucas is #97.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irXbLvjtygA

All MWC TE in 2010, Two time John Mackey award candidate, John Mackey TE of the week---November 06 2010. Two time All American, 3rd team as a Freshman, and 2nd team as a Sophomore (also Honorable Mention over all TE by Scout--CFN) SC top ten play of the MONTH for November 2010. Kid's problem has not been being able to play. Kid's problem has been OC's and terrible coaching.
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Good blocker/great hands/dedicated to football, sounds like a great 5th rd pick to me.
 
76Texan said:
I just watched the UT game. Reed was pretty good in blocking...
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Reed has blown up now. Cosell has him compared to Patriots Aaron Hernandez.

I saw one mock that had him in the 2nd round. [IMGwidthsize=50]http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/toropalm.gif[/IMG]
 
Surprise, surprise -- QB Geno Smith is climbing boards after a good pro day. If you want him, you better get into the top 10 now.

The more QBs drafted high, the better for the Texans.
 
Kenjon Barner improves his forty to 4.43 from the combine, which is closer to his playing speed (according to my eyes.)

He's projected to go somewhere between the 4th and 6th round.
 
Michigan Pro Day Notes: Denard Robinson worked out as a running back at Michigan's Pro Day. It appears as though that'll be his next position at the next level. He raised his stock with his impressive workout.

Grade: 3rd-5th

Bigger than Barner, and as explosive (more or less.)
 
76Texan said:
Michigan Pro Day Notes: Denard Robinson worked out as a running back at Michigan's Pro Day. It appears as though that'll be his next position at the next level. He raised his stock with his impressive workout.

Grade: 3rd-5th

Bigger than Barner, and as explosive (more or less.)
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I've studied them both but still much prefer Jonathan Franklin, UCLA. He is exceptional both in run blocking, catching out of the backfield & has a sincere passion for the game (joy). Would be much cheaper too, drafting him than resigning Forsett. Tate is up in the air going into contract year with injury plagued first couple seasons.
 
A prospect to note for the 4th - 6th round range.

S Bradley McDougald
Height: 6-0
Weight: 211
40-yard dash: 4.49
20-yard shuttle: 4.31
60-yard shuttle: 11.78
Vertical: 33 inches
Broad jump: N/A
3-cone drill: N/A
Bench Press: N/A


Here is a kid with some interesting numbers but he never did anything with them. Was recruited to Florida and ND as a fullback (where some people think he'll play in the NFL) but KU gave him at shot as a RB so he signed. He was switched to DE then to OLB then to a Hybrid last season. Played for 3 HC's so I can't really say what his potential is. I was never overly impressed with him on the field in the sense that he didn't stand out (on a terrible defense) very often, but still, the numbers make you think for a second.

DE/LB/FB Toben Opurum
Height: 6-1
Weight: 249
40-yard dash: 4.61
20-yard shuttle: 4.34
60-yard shuttle: 11.77
Vertical: 34.5 inches
Broad jump: 10-4
3-cone drill: 7.28
Bench Press: 24 reps

A run prototypical 3-4 DE who should get some camp invites. He transferred from Nebraska to play a 5th year. A solid player, a rotation guy at best, but there is some potential.

DE Josh Williams
Height: 6-4
Weight: 257
40-yard dash: 4.84
20-yard shuttle: 4.60
60-yard shuttle: N/A
Vertical: 29.5 inches
Broad jump: 9-7
3-cone drill: 7.93
Bench Press: 18 reps

Finally, a guy who is a very good mid-round OT target. 4 year starter and Freshman All-American. Played for 3 HC's so nothing has been consistent. Very athletic at an ideal size with lots of Big XII experience. He'll be drafted, so someone to at least put on your radar on the last two days.

OL Tanner Hawkinson
Height: 6-5
Weight: 298
40-yard dash: N/A
20-yard shuttle: N/A
60-yard shuttle: N/A
Vertical: N/A
Broad jump: N/A
3-cone drill: N/A
Bench Press: 13 reps


Here is a link to a story, mostly about McDougald, but that lists some other kids and is where the numbers were from. McDougald and Hawkinson also competed in the combine, so they also have an additional set of measurements available.

As always, Rock Chalk.

Oh, and I'll be at the KC game this coming season if any of y'all are making the trip. I'll be tailgating with some Texan fans (and some Chiefs).
 
YoungTexanFan said:
A prospect to note for the 4th - 6th round range.

S Bradley McDougald
Height: 6-0
Weight: 211
40-yard dash: 4.49
20-yard shuttle: 4.31
60-yard shuttle: 11.78
Vertical: 33 inches
Broad jump: N/A
3-cone drill: N/A
Bench Press: N/A


Here is a kid with some interesting numbers but he never did anything with them. Was recruited to Florida and ND as a fullback (where some people think he'll play in the NFL) but KU gave him at shot as a RB so he signed. He was switched to DE then to OLB then to a Hybrid last season. Played for 3 HC's so I can't really say what his potential is. I was never overly impressed with him on the field in the sense that he didn't stand out (on a terrible defense) very often, but still, the numbers make you think for a second.

DE/LB/FB Toben Opurum
Height: 6-1
Weight: 249
40-yard dash: 4.61
20-yard shuttle: 4.34
60-yard shuttle: 11.77
Vertical: 34.5 inches
Broad jump: 10-4
3-cone drill: 7.28
Bench Press: 24 reps

A run prototypical 3-4 DE who should get some camp invites. He transferred from Nebraska to play a 5th year. A solid player, a rotation guy at best, but there is some potential.

DE Josh Williams
Height: 6-4
Weight: 257
40-yard dash: 4.84
20-yard shuttle: 4.60
60-yard shuttle: N/A
Vertical: 29.5 inches
Broad jump: 9-7
3-cone drill: 7.93
Bench Press: 18 reps

Finally, a guy who is a very good mid-round OT target. 4 year starter and Freshman All-American. Played for 3 HC's so nothing has been consistent. Very athletic at an ideal size with lots of Big XII experience. He'll be drafted, so someone to at least put on your radar on the last two days.

OL Tanner Hawkinson
Height: 6-5
Weight: 298
40-yard dash: N/A
20-yard shuttle: N/A
60-yard shuttle: N/A
Vertical: N/A
Broad jump: N/A
3-cone drill: N/A
Bench Press: 13 reps


Here is a link to a story, mostly about McDougald, but that lists some other kids and is where the numbers were from. McDougald and Hawkinson also competed in the combine, so they also have an additional set of measurements available.

As always, Rock Chalk.

Oh, and I'll be at the KC game this coming season if any of y'all are making the trip. I'll be tailgating with some Texan fans (and some Chiefs).
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YTF, I don't see the link! Is it hiding somewhere? :hides:
 
beerlover said:
I've studied them both but still much prefer Jonathan Franklin, UCLA. He is exceptional both in run blocking, catching out of the backfield & has a sincere passion for the game (joy). Would be much cheaper too, drafting him than resigning Forsett. Tate is up in the air going into contract year with injury plagued first couple seasons.
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Franklin graded in the second-third round; we're not going to take a back that high, do we?

Also, it seems like he doesn't block all that well and may have ball security problem?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631945

I didn't pay attention to him much, mainly just watch the TE Fauria who I think could be a late round pick.
 
beerlover said:
I've studied them both but still much prefer Jonathan Franklin, UCLA. He is exceptional both in run blocking, catching out of the backfield & has a sincere passion for the game (joy). Would be much cheaper too, drafting him than resigning Forsett. Tate is up in the air going into contract year with injury plagued first couple seasons.
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I've been in love with Franklin for 2 years now.
 
I tried to watch McDougal some, but it's too hard to judge him on that defense.

The OT looks pretty good; I still need to watch more of him though.
 
Playoffs said:
Reed has blown up now. Cosell has him compared to Patriots Aaron Hernandez.

I saw one mock that had him in the 2nd round. [IMGwidthsize=50]http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/toropalm.gif[/IMG]
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I think Cosell may have been referring to Jordan Reed, smallish (like Hernandez) TE out of FL. Oddly enough, there are 3 TE's with the last name Reed in this draft.
 
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