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badboy

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1. ILB Manti Te'o 6'2 255 monster Middle with 113T 7 INTs
2 WR Justin Hunter 6'4 200 4.49 73/1083 14.8 9 TDs
3a S/CB Darrius Slay 6'1 190 sub 4.5
3b NT Sylvester Williams 6'3" 313 6 sacks
4. OLB Michael Buchanan 6'5" 255
5. TE Michael Williams 6'6" 270 good block and good hands
5b CB Terry Hawthorne 6'0 190 4.49
5c RB Cierre Wood 6'0 215 4.48 114/742 6.5 as a back up
 
JMO:

1. Te'o, AWW HELL TO THE NO.
2. Hunter, great player and pick but I just don't think he's going to be available at #57, steal of the draft if he is.
3. Slay, ehhh not sure here with bigger team needs at O-line and NT. Good player though and I wouldn't be mad.
3b. Williams, you really think he falls this far? I don't, mid 2nd at worst. Great value if available though.
4. Buchanan, I dont' know alot about him, just started studying OLB prospects, but I'm good with it. Love the size for the position.
5. Williams, love this pick. Kasa is a possibility here as well.
5b. Hawthorne, I don't care what CBS says for rankings I think he goes alot higher. Late 2nd or early 3rd.
5c. Wood, if we trade Tate then this is a good pick. I'm not real familiar with him, but love the size speed combo.

The only one I hate is Te'o, I think he's overrated for the NFL. He's more of a run stuffer and I think we need a sideline to sideline guy that can handle RB and TE pass coverage while still being able to play the run (Ogletree). He's just not athletic enough. Not to mention that he's either an idiot or liar and I want neither on our team. Let someone else deal with all the drama that will surround this guy.

As for the rest, if our draft did fall this way it would be a homerun. I just think some of these guys go earlier than you have them slotted.
 
When it comes to Teo .... I just dont think he's an NFL player. I'll give you the best explination I can .... and hope it makes sense.


You know how some college QB's are really good college QB's and are worthless as pro prospects ? (Danny Wuerffel or Chris Weinke) Thats what I think of Teo.


I think we got a glimpse of what's to come from him in the NFL in the BCS Championship game against a team as close to an NFL team as you can get in the NCAA. Watch some of that game tape .... its very revealing.
 
1. ILB Manti Te'o 6'2 255 monster Middle with 113T 7 INTs
2 WR Justin Hunter 6'4 200 4.49 73/1083 14.8 9 TDs
3a S/CB Darrius Slay 6'1 190 sub 4.5
3b NT Sylvester Williams 6'3" 313 6 sacks
4. OLB Michael Buchanan 6'5" 255
5. TE Michael Williams 6'6" 270 good block and good hands
5b CB Terry Hawthorne 6'0 190 4.49
5c RB Cierre Wood 6'0 215 4.48 114/742 6.5 as a back up

1 - Te'o - Drafting him as the 'run stuffing' ILB is a mistake. As shown against Alabama, he struggles to shed blocks. He's been overrated all season long. Not a 1st round talent.

2 - Hunter - Great physical tools, wish there was more film on him. Really only played one season in college and had tons of talent around him. Could be a very good #2 and eventual AJ successor if he stays healthy. I do prefer him over guys like Austin, Bailey, and Woods.

3 - Slay - Solid player. I think there will be better talents available this early though.

3b - Williams - Great athlete, could be an answer at the Nose for us, but don't think he lasts this long. He will do great at the combine and go earlier than this.

4 - Buchanan - Great athlete, could be a real sleeper this year, but did not have near the season I thought he would.

5 - Williams - Love his size and like his skill set, but he needs to develop as a receiver. He could be what Hill never was.

5b - Hawthorne - Very underrated player. He will be long gone by the 5th round. Really like him. He's been a stalwart on the back end for Illinois for years.

5c - Wood - Great tools, a bit underrated because ND uses a lot of backs. Fits the system. Not sure we get two 5th round comp picks though. If this is a 6th I doubt he's there. Zac Stacy might be though.
 
Te'o can play football. If this mock was posted before his scandal we would all be bashing badboy for thinking he would fall that far. I would not want to draft him because of the scandal, but he was the anchor of the a defense that had one bad game all season. You don't get 7 int's if you cant cover. Te'o is a scary prospect to take, but it's not because of his ability.
 
1 - Te'o - Drafting him as the 'run stuffing' ILB is a mistake. As shown against Alabama, he struggles to shed blocks. He's been overrated all season long. Not a 1st round talent.

I've seen/heard this way too many times not to take it into consideration. Even before the KeKua thing blew up. Serious questions were raised after the NC game & I don't know if they've been answered or not.

I hope everyone is wrong, I hope our staff can weed through all the anti Te'o hype, see the star talent & take him with #27 or lower.

But things don't generally go that way for Houston sports franchises. We'll be the one to draft him, he won't make it on the field & everyone will be wondering what the heck were we thinking.
 
When it comes to Teo .... I just dont think he's an NFL player. I'll give you the best explination I can .... and hope it makes sense.


You know how some college QB's are really good college QB's and are worthless as pro prospects ? (Danny Wuerffel or Chris Weinke) Thats what I think of Teo.


I think we got a glimpse of what's to come from him in the NFL in the BCS Championship game against a team as close to an NFL team as you can get in the NCAA. Watch some of that game tape .... its very revealing.

Please point out this game tape you are talking about. Because when I watch his tape I definitely don't see a top 5 talent but, I do see a guy that is well worth the 27th pick in the draft. In fact he might be perfect next to Cushing.

He is not a thumper thats for sure. What he brings to the table is high football IQ with very good instincts. He is at his best when in coverage and playing sideline to sideline. IMO that is exactly what we need next to Cushing.

Cushing is the one that is going to be making the big hits and stuffing RB's at the LOS. We need someone who can cover and make plays behind him. I think most of the posters that are hatin on him are basing their opinion on their dislike of the attention he recieved pre-BCS champoinship game, the scandel and his performance in the championship game.

One game does not tell a players worth nor does outside BS that the player can't control. Mike Mayok said Teo should win the heisman and Im sure he watched more film than anyone on Teo. Is he a top 10 player? NO! Is he worthy of going in the first round? HELL YES!!
 
Please point out this game tape you are talking about. Because when I watch his tape I definitely don't see a top 5 talent but, I do see a guy that is well worth the 27th pick in the draft. In fact he might be perfect next to Cushing.

He is not a thumper thats for sure. What he brings to the table is high football IQ with very good instincts. He is at his best when in coverage and playing sideline to sideline. IMO that is exactly what we need next to Cushing.

Cushing is the one that is going to be making the big hits and stuffing RB's at the LOS. We need someone who can cover and make plays behind him. I think most of the posters that are hatin on him are basing their opinion on their dislike of the attention he recieved pre-BCS champoinship game, the scandel and his performance in the championship game.

One game does not tell a players worth nor does outside BS that the player can't control. Mike Mayok said Teo should win the heisman and Im sure he watched more film than anyone on Teo. Is he a top 10 player? NO! Is he worthy of going in the first round? HELL YES!!

In the NC game I saw a player on is heels and not his toes . Part of his game is an outstanding motor . He played like Pau Gasol after Pau got dumped during the NBA championship .
 
I'm wondering why the o-line isn't addressed? I'm not a believer in Newton. I think he would be best served moving inside and possibly replacing Wade Smith in 2014. I don't know if Brooks has the feet to play RT. And I was not real impressed with Ben Jones. I just don't think he has the strength to be a good pass blocker. I think the Texans need to go RT in one of the 1st 2 picks, if they aren't able to do something in free agency. Probably another guard on the 3rd day.
 
I'm wondering why the o-line isn't addressed? I'm not a believer in Newton. I think he would be best served moving inside and possibly replacing Wade Smith in 2014. I don't know if Brooks has the feet to play RT. And I was not real impressed with Ben Jones. I just don't think he has the strength to be a good pass blocker. I think the Texans need to go RT in one of the 1st 2 picks, if they aren't able to do something in free agency. Probably another guard on the 3rd day.

I've got the same concern about Newton's feet. But I love Ben Jones.

I don't think Tackle is that high of a concern, I expect our 1st three selections should be OLB, WR, ILB....... not necessarily in that order.

But I think getting an elite RT would be like drafting a 5 tech when we already had Mario Williams & lead our offense to a similar type of step change.
 
But I think getting an elite RT would be like drafting a 5 tech when we already had Mario Williams & lead our offense to a similar type of step change.
I don't know if anyone elite will be there at #27 at any position. But, there should be someone pretty good. At least better than a 7th round project/street free agent rotation.
 
I don't know if anyone elite will be there at #27 at any position. But, there should be someone pretty good. At least better than a 7th round project/street free agent rotation.

For a traditional Power scheme, probably not. But we did select Duane Brown at 26.
 
I've got the same concern about Newton's feet. But I love Ben Jones.

I don't think Tackle is that high of a concern, I expect our 1st three selections should be OLB, WR, ILB....... not necessarily in that order.

But I think getting an elite RT would be like drafting a 5 tech when we already had Mario Williams & lead our offense to a similar type of step change.

I was high on Jones earlier in the season ..... but that has waned. I dont know if he's just not ready technique wise or .... if he's just not an NFL calibur guard. The fact that Brooks took over for him late says a lot to me .... they have to get stronger up front.

I agree with Lucky that RT is a serious concern .... that right side fell of bigtime from Winston / Briesel to Newton / Jones or Brooks. For this offense to be successful , it has to be able to run the ball effectively - 3.7 ypc aint gonna cut it. They also have to keep Schaub clean ..... or else.

Newton was fairly solid in pass pro but piss poor in run blocking and in the screen game. Two staples of this offense ..... I think its absolutely necessary the RT position is upgraded relegating Newton to the swing tackle.
 
1 - Te'o - Drafting him as the 'run stuffing' ILB is a mistake. As shown against Alabama, he struggles to shed blocks. He's been overrated all season long. Not a 1st round talent.

2 - Hunter - Great physical tools, wish there was more film on him. Really only played one season in college and had tons of talent around him. Could be a very good #2 and eventual AJ successor if he stays healthy. I do prefer him over guys like Austin, Bailey, and Woods.

3 - Slay - Solid player. I think there will be better talents available this early though.

3b - Williams - Great athlete, could be an answer at the Nose for us, but don't think he lasts this long. He will do great at the combine and go earlier than this.

4 - Buchanan - Great athlete, could be a real sleeper this year, but did not have near the season I thought he would.

5 - Williams - Love his size and like his skill set, but he needs to develop as a receiver. He could be what Hill never was.

5b - Hawthorne - Very underrated player. He will be long gone by the 5th round. Really like him. He's been a stalwart on the back end for Illinois for years.

5c - Wood - Great tools, a bit underrated because ND uses a lot of backs. Fits the system. Not sure we get two 5th round comp picks though. If this is a 6th I doubt he's there. Zac Stacy might be though.

Both Wood and Stacy look to be pretty fast. Both are ranked really low by CBS.

I think I prefer Kenjon Barner though.
I think 4-5th is good value for him.
His cutting ability is pretty sick.

Another guy that caught my eyes is George Winn (Bearcats).
He's not as fast, but he has powerful legs that keep churning.
Hard to bring him down.
Could be an UDFA or late round pick.
Might be a sleeper here.
 
Put me in the camp that teo is gonna be a outstanding football player. His key and diagnose is top flight. His ability to read passing concepts are also top notch. People are overreacting to one game. Go watch 95 national champ game and watch how warren sapp and ray lewis were pushed around by nebraska all game. In fact, go watch ray lewis in his prime post adams and goose and see how will shields had him on rollerskates. Ray lewis basically drafted ngata so he could do his thing.

Again, I heard this same overreaction when people spoke of derrick johnson. All he's done is become one of the best lbs in nfl. Teo is a bonifide player and playmaker. If he's there,which I doubt,the texans should draft him.
 
I was high on Jones earlier in the season ..... but that has waned. I dont know if he's just not ready technique wise or .... if he's just not an NFL calibur guard. The fact that Brooks took over for him late says a lot to me .... they have to get stronger up front.

I agree with Lucky that RT is a serious concern .... that right side fell of bigtime from Winston / Briesel to Newton / Jones or Brooks. For this offense to be successful , it has to be able to run the ball effectively - 3.7 ypc aint gonna cut it. They also have to keep Schaub clean ..... or else.

Newton was fairly solid in pass pro but piss poor in run blocking and in the screen game. Two staples of this offense ..... I think its absolutely necessary the RT position is upgraded relegating Newton to the swing tackle.

I understand your concern. Our run game took a big hit, no doubt from where we finished with Briesel & Winston. But I think we're miles ahead from where we started with Briesel & Winston.

Newton injured his knee right about the time our offense dropped off the face of the earth. I don't know how close to 100% he was when he came back, but there was still a bit of a drop off.

I agree with you on his screen performance, I think he was consistently below average even before the injury.

Like I said, there's definitely room for improvement. An "elite" like talent there (Eric Winston in the run game) would really take us to another level. I don't know that Newton can be that guy, I don't know that he can't. Many didn't think Brown could be that guy.
 
I was high on Jones earlier in the season ..... but that has waned. I dont know if he's just not ready technique wise or .... if he's just not an NFL calibur guard. The fact that Brooks took over for him late says a lot to me .... they have to get stronger up front.

I agree with Lucky that RT is a serious concern .... that right side fell of bigtime from Winston / Briesel to Newton / Jones or Brooks. For this offense to be successful , it has to be able to run the ball effectively - 3.7 ypc aint gonna cut it. They also have to keep Schaub clean ..... or else.

Newton was fairly solid in pass pro but piss poor in run blocking and in the screen game. Two staples of this offense ..... I think its absolutely necessary the RT position is upgraded relegating Newton to the swing tackle.

My understanding is RB avg 4.3 with Power Success of 61% ranking 9th in both run and pass blocking. Adjusted line yardage was 3.13 for LT versus 4.83 for RT. So if correct, maybe you want to get rid of that Duane Brown guy?

480 RB carries almost evenly distributed to both sides. Oline allowed 28 sacks IIRC ans ome were on QB.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
 
Ryan Clady
Andre Smith
Branden Albert
Jake Long
Sebastian Vollmer
Will Beatty
Gosder Cherilus
Phil Loadholt
Jermon Bushrod
Sam Baker
Ryan Harris
Winston Justice
King Dunlap
Chad Clifton
Bryant McKinnie
Max Starks
Will Svitek
Tyler Polumbus
Sean Locklear
Tony Pashos
Khalif Barnes
Barry Richardson
Jonathan Scott
Frank Omiyale
Dennis Roland
Jeff Otah
Brandon Keith
Jeremy Trueblood
Brandyn Dombrowski
D'Anthony Batiste
Jason Smith
Mario Henderson
Rashad Butler
Tony Hills
Pat McQuistan
Lydon Murtha


I think one of our RT's will come from this list.
 
Both Wood and Stacy look to be pretty fast. Both are ranked really low by CBS.

I think I prefer Kenjon Barner though.
I think 4-5th is good value for him.
His cutting ability is pretty sick.

Another guy that caught my eyes is George Winn (Bearcats).
He's not as fast, but he has powerful legs that keep churning.
Hard to bring him down.
Could be an UDFA or late round pick.
Might be a sleeper here.
Another thing I like about Woods he did not sulk when coached brought in others ahead of him. He kept grinding it out showing he has the skills and determination.
 
Rey "I think one of our RT's will come from this list." If we can get an upgrade reasonably priced, that will be great. Will be interesting under new CBA where Clady will end up and for how much.
 
Ryan Clady
Andre Smith
Branden Albert
Jake Long
Sebastian Vollmer
Will Beatty
Gosder Cherilus
Phil Loadholt
Jermon Bushrod
Sam Baker
Ryan Harris
Winston Justice
King Dunlap
Chad Clifton
Bryant McKinnie
Max Starks
Will Svitek
Tyler Polumbus
Sean Locklear
Tony Pashos
Khalif Barnes
Barry Richardson
Jonathan Scott
Frank Omiyale
Dennis Roland
Jeff Otah
Brandon Keith
Jeremy Trueblood
Brandyn Dombrowski
D'Anthony Batiste
Jason Smith
Mario Henderson

Rashad Butler
Tony Hills
Pat McQuistan
Lydon Murtha



I think one of our RT's will come from this list.

Sadly, I think you're probably right.
 
Another thing I like about Woods he did not sulk when coached brought in others ahead of him. He kept grinding it out showing he has the skills and determination.

I don't think we will go for a RB until very late.
I think we keep Tate and bring Forsett back.

Therefore, I think I will be more comfortable to take Winn in the 7th. There's no sense to wait to see of becomes an UDFA. He has a lot of good threads on his tires sitting behind Isaiah Pead the last few years.

A strong back that I hope I can hold up at the next level at a cheap price.
 
I don't think we will go for a RB until very late.
I think we keep Tate and bring Forsett back.

Therefore, I think I will be more comfortable to take Winn in the 7th. There's no sense to wait to see of becomes an UDFA. He has a lot of good threads on his tires sitting behind Isaiah Pead the last few years.

A strong back that I hope I can hold up at the next level at a cheap price.
I'd be ok with keeping Forsett but Woods is a huge fast back that would offer alternative if Foster got hurt. Forsett cannot grind out the ball, imo. A 5th for a back like Woods would be a remarkable pick.
 
I don't think we will go for a RB until very late.
I think we keep Tate and bring Forsett back.

Therefore, I think I will be more comfortable to take Winn in the 7th. There's no sense to wait to see of becomes an UDFA. He has a lot of good threads on his tires sitting behind Isaiah Pead the last few years.

A strong back that I hope I can hold up at the next level at a cheap price.

Just learned that Stacy and Winn have been invited to the combine.
Expect Winn not to run fast in the 40.

Also, local product D.J. Hayden was also invited.
I just don't know if he can recover soon enough from a near-fatal injury last November (in fact, Dr. Love said that the injury "should have" killed him.)
Even if he can attend, I doubt he can be in shape to perform; what a shame!

When I saw him his junior year, I had no doubt he can play at the next level (just don't know how well); it was a thought echoed by a few different broadcasters, including a former college coach.
Now I don't even know if he can play football again at all.
 
I'd be ok with keeping Forsett but Woods is a huge fast back that would offer alternative if Foster got hurt. Forsett cannot grind out the ball, imo. A 5th for a back like Woods would be a remarkable pick.

I'm good with Woods in the 5th; but if we can keep Forsett for cheap, perhaps we can use the pick for another position or to trade up.

I didn't pay attention, is Woods any good in blocking?
 
I was high on Jones earlier in the season ..... but that has waned. I dont know if he's just not ready technique wise or .... if he's just not an NFL calibur guard. The fact that Brooks took over for him late says a lot to me .... they have to get stronger up front.

I agree with Lucky that RT is a serious concern .... that right side fell of bigtime from Winston / Briesel to Newton / Jones or Brooks. For this offense to be successful , it has to be able to run the ball effectively - 3.7 ypc aint gonna cut it. They also have to keep Schaub clean ..... or else.

Newton was fairly solid in pass pro but piss poor in run blocking and in the screen game. Two staples of this offense ..... I think its absolutely necessary the RT position is upgraded relegating Newton to the swing tackle.

Yep

And WR And QB etc....
 
I'd be ok with keeping Forsett but Woods is a huge fast back that would offer alternative if Foster got hurt. Forsett cannot grind out the ball, imo. A 5th for a back like Woods would be a remarkable pick.

I don't know why we didn't keep Grimes. I think he was a really good fit for this system.
 
Just and FYI, Duane Brown was on the radio a little while ago on Texans all access and he's very high on Newton. Feels he has all the tools and says the biggest jump for O-linemen is from the first year they play to the next year. But the most interesting thing he said was that he's going to take Newton under his wing and personally work with him all off season...Film study, technique (he really harped on technique) and strength/conditioning.

Just based on what I have seen from the Texans in the past and the ways guys are talking, I think they fully plan on moving forward with Newton as the starter with some solid competition maybe backing him up.

Hopefully Newton can improve working with D. Brown all off season.
 
But the most interesting thing he said was that he's going to take Newton under his wing and personally work with him all off season...Film study, technique (he really harped on technique) and strength/conditioning.

I like it. That's leadership to me. Interestingly enough, I remember last week they were talking about how Duane Brown said it was a struggle playing RT in the pro bowl, so he's got an appreciation for how different it is.
 
Newton wasn't a disaster.
Considering his injury, he gives some hope.
But we need more than hope.
If we can draft another tackle, we should.

There are some out there in the draft.
It's not like all the teams are out to draft an OT.

Several of them have been drafted since Brown.
We can get one. He may not start right away, but by the halfway mark of the season, that guy might be able to take the job away from Newton, unless Newt becomes of age - which is even better.
 
Several of them have been drafted since Brown.
We can get one. He may not start right away, but by the halfway mark of the season, that guy might be able to take the job away from Newton, unless Newt becomes of age - which is even better.

This is the only problem I have here. I think Newton is going to get better & be that RT we need him to be. At least I feel better about that than I do about our starting ILB (next to Cushing) is already on this roster. Or that our starting WR (next to Andre) is already on this roster. Or that our starting OLB (I honestly can't think of a starter on the team right now at WOLB)....

Like I said, if there's an Elite RT out there at 27, even though he isn't a big "need" for us right now I think it'll take our offense/running game to another level like what Jj Watt is doing for our defense.
 
I'm good with Woods in the 5th; but if we can keep Forsett for cheap, perhaps we can use the pick for another position or to trade up.

I didn't pay attention, is Woods any good in blocking?
I really hope Hayden does not pee on his second chance. I'd advise him to remain out of football. Like most RB, Cierre Woods needs more training in blocking but should do as well as Forsett, Tate or Barner. If you want him basically as a back to protect Schaub in passing, Woods has long way to go.
 
Just and FYI, Duane Brown was on the radio a little while ago on Texans all access and he's very high on Newton. Feels he has all the tools and says the biggest jump for O-linemen is from the first year they play to the next year. But the most interesting thing he said was that he's going to take Newton under his wing and personally work with him all off season...Film study, technique (he really harped on technique) and strength/conditioning.

Just based on what I have seen from the Texans in the past and the ways guys are talking, I think they fully plan on moving forward with Newton as the starter with some solid competition maybe backing him up.

Hopefully Newton can improve working with D. Brown all off season.
Good news. I started out not being a fan of Newton's but he won me over. I liked Grimes also, but didn't do enough to get on roster and stick.
 
This is the only problem I have here. I think Newton is going to get better & be that RT we need him to be. At least I feel better about that than I do about our starting ILB (next to Cushing) is already on this roster. Or that our starting WR (next to Andre) is already on this roster. Or that our starting OLB (I honestly can't think of a starter on the team right now at WOLB)....

Like I said, if there's an Elite RT out there at 27, even though he isn't a big "need" for us right now I think it'll take our offense/running game to another level like what Jj Watt is doing for our defense.
I agree except for last sentence as I just don't see going OT until WR/NT/ILB are resolved. That still allows us to look there in 3rd or later. I just think if we don't go ILB in first might as well wait until 3B or round 4. In this ILB (Te'o or Minter)#27 2 WR 3 S/CB and a NT pretty much wraps my concerns.
 
I agree except for last sentence as I just don't see going OT until WR/NT/ILB are resolved. That still allows us to look there in 3rd or later. I just think if we don't go ILB in first might as well wait until 3B or round 4. In this ILB (Te'o or Minter)#27 2 WR 3 S/CB and a NT pretty much wraps my concerns.

What about Chase Thomas or Gerald Hodges as an ILB? I think either could move inside. Having someone at ILB that could move outside in certain situations could only be a plus. Hell draft one of them and let him and Reed fight it out for the ILB and keep the other one outside.
 
What about Chase Thomas or Gerald Hodges as an ILB? I think either could move inside. Having someone at ILB that could move outside in certain situations could only be a plus. Hell draft one of them and let him and Reed fight it out for the ILB and keep the other one outside.
Maybe Thomas but I see both more OLB. For that spot I'd prefer a true ILB who would have enough concern translating to NFl than OLB learning new role.
 
I got the name right but BB "corrected" me and I'm too lazy to look it up again.
Hell there are too many names to remember; it's not all that important anyway.
:chickendance:
If I corrected you it was not in this thread as I added 's' in 2-3 posts myself. I don't get caught up in spelling as I can usually figure out if poster writes Walters or Daniel who he is refering to.
 
Maybe Thomas but I see both more OLB. For that spot I'd prefer a true ILB who would have enough concern translating to NFl than OLB learning new role.

With Reed moving to ILB wouldn't OLB depth be more of an issue?
 
Te'o ran a 4.82 at the combine. There's a good chance he will drop to us. I think we should bring him in for a workout.
 
Te'o ran a 4.82 at the combine. There's a good chance he will drop to us. I think we should bring him in for a workout.

Yikes, I think that he will certainly drop a couple of rounds, not a couple of spots in the first.
 
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